As soon as I read the title I already knew where this was headed. Dooku even told Grevious the B1 Battle Droids alone are expensive, so constantly beating them for no reason is a big no-no.
I feel so bad for droids, they are killed for no reason. Remember that one droid commander from the clone wars:"im not the commander, h heees the commaaander" 😥
And the droids for r2d2 got killed on citadel, because anakin hated them and ordered r2 to make them "sacrifice themselfs" They could have escaped, but anakin wanted them dead
B1 Battledroids aren't that expensive when you consider that human soldiers need to be paid and fed all year around, which adds up in terms of costs. On the other hand, B1's are a one-time investment which are already programmed to perform without any costs invested into training and conditioning.
@@danieljung785Look at how much a decent vehicle needs to be repaired. Then ship that vehicle to another planet. No gas or electricity, a vehicle could comfortably make it and still work. No food, water, entertainment, etc... for a human to make the same trip would end up with them dead.
It costs more to train a Marine recruit than a b1 costs. That is not including specialized training, housing, medical, retirement, massive logistical personal and VA expenses.
wow for a galaxy spanning army that's insanely cheap, you could probably sustain an army 500 times that size with the resources of a single untapped solar system.
@@apsoypike1956 I'm well aware the numbers aren't accurate I'm exclaiming surprise at the context of how cheap it would be to build and maintain an army that size in a sci fi setting.
6.2 million number is ABSURD. Especially when you consider Republic Naval forces and all types of support roles like maintenance logistics, command are included in that number. How many clones does it take to man a venator class? Ill low ball it and estimate the same as a US super carrier at 5,000. Lets just say if they have 200 venators (low balling again) thats 1 million clones just to man their capital ships alone. Then think about things like frigates, support ships and cruisers, probably another 500,000 if were low balling. so now we have 5.7 million left. Now lets talk about logistics and maintenance clones. US estimated that for every frontline soldier they needed 6 maintance and logistics soldiers to support them. Lets say because of droids the GAR only needs 1:1. Still that cuts down their fighting force in half to 2.35 million. And now lets take into account casualties! I have no clue where to begin, but in we have seen in the movies and Clone Wars TV show probably a couple dozen venator class destroyed. 30x5,000= 150,000 and lets just assume ground losses are somewhere similar like 250,000. 2.35 million - 400,000 = 1.85 million. This is a smaller army than the peace time US ground forces. Makes no fuckin sense and everything was low balled. More realistic numbers 1,000 venators x 10,000 personell = 10 million another 10 million for all other ships. There are hundreds of important planets, in 20 million soldiers were actively deployed in combat in ww2 so we should expect something similar to defend/attack the top 10 most important planets so you get 200 million. for a total of 220 million. Which is still LOW because there are litterally thousands of planets, most of which are useless but id imagine atleast a couple hundred must be worth fighting for so if we give 1 million to these lower priority planets theres another 200 million for 420 million. And really the navy is just looking riduclously small at that point realistically you the navy should have similar amount of personnel so a more realistic number would be something like 800 million@@apsoypike1956
500 times? The total number of battle droids could be build by Courasant alone in a year and it wouldn’t even cost them more than 1% of their GDP. And they have thousands of systems under their control. Realistically the number of battle droids should actually be the number of ships. But then you miss the “scrappy hero defeats this one ship/platoon/tank column and it’s a major blow” part of the story.
Unless I'm mistaken, the prices you're listing at not wholesale. They're purchasing as a private buyer. If you bulk ordered a lot of this stuff youd get a not insignificant discount. On top of that much of these units were produced in house and not just ordered from a third party. This brings the price down even more.
plus you realize that ultimately if our global economy generates an enornous amount of wealth, and the cis had 100s if 1000s planets, you realizes it's an army on the cheap
If you look at the price to made a droid XD (It's /2. And the wamon + ammo is aldery in the cost of the B1 at 1800. His real cost is only 1000 credits without gun) 500 credits of work for a B1. And 350 for the wapon + 50 ammo. 1 minning droid = 20 000 credits . He extracte engouth metalS for 10 ingénieur droid of 10 000 each. They produce for 5000 credits of work by day (at 10). So for 120.000 you produce 5.5 B1 each day !
There’s also the theory that when they say unit of clones, they mean 1unit = a battaillion or company. This would put the clones at ~670mm. Which would make sense on galactic scale
I'm going to accept this as my new head canon! Although looking at real world examples of the biggest wars on earth that number would still be low for an entire galaxy with about 100 quadrillion (100*10^24) inhabitants. I mean even just the peace time police force of a planet like Coruscant would probably need to reach into the tens if not hundreds of millions.
@@firstname8637except population in Star Wars Galaxy is low...way lower than Earth per planet. Republic has 1,5 million planets with over 1,000,000 population(that is the limit of getting vote as planet in the Senate). When Alderan was blown up, Kenobi felt death of "millions".
@@AKUJIVALDO ...Which is way, way higher than our realworld galaxy. 1.5 million planets with more than one million inhabitants is a lot! And as far as I'm aware the overall population of 100 quadrillion is correct. Which would mean that even going by the theory, mentioned by @NextGen48, the clone army would make up a measely 6.7*10^-16% of the population. Even if we double that to account for seperatist worlds, thats still just 13.4*10^-16%. Which is redicolously low. For example: the us army soldiers on active duty right now make up around 0.4% of the us population. And the us is not even at war right now.
Not only were clones much more expensive per unit, they also took a lot more time. The CIS was churning out multiple battle droids per minute, while each clone took 10 YEARS to raise and train.
Only first 1.2 milion clone series grew so long, last series of clones grew 3-5 years. I remeber in canon there was wrote that in first year of war most of the clones from original 1.2 milion was dead or wounded and republic was at the edge of lose. But then Palpatine relase new army of clones cloned on secret facility which reinforced original one. But these was raise only for a few years not 10 as original and wasnt so good as original ones.
@@davidrajtr8332 Those were from a different source entirely. In Legends he had other groups of cloners, like the Spaarti, doing clones. Introduced in the Thrawn books, before the prequel trilogy came out, they were cloning in as little as a few weeks... with some defects. But the Kaminoan technique hasn't really changed, and arguably, they are still the better clones. They just take rather a long time.
@@ElladanKenetThe Spaarti Clone cylinders were mostly destroyed by the CIS before they could be put to use for the republic. The surviving ones were moved to Wayland.
For reference, global annual military spending is $2.2t (a Galactic Credit is often assumer to be more or less analogous to a USD). Considering there are over 100 quadrillion sentient living creatures in the Star Wars galaxy, a 2.6 trillion credit cost is significantly lower per person than military spending on Earth today, in an era of relative peace.
Not to mention that this 2.6 trillion cost is generally spread out over at minimum 3.5 years of conflict, but if you account for the droid armies already existing as security forces for decades prior it’s a much much more manageable number for a multiple-centuries old multi planet conglomerate corporation that’s rich and powerful enough to have a seat in the senate
@@spencerrr9878 exactly, for a historical parallel, the British East India Company kept a military force of 260,000 soldiers, twice as large as the British Army at the time. It's really not that odd to imagine the Trade Federation having a very sizeable military force even before the war started. Hell, we literally see them conquer Naboo, a major inhabited planet, with little difficulty in Episode 1.
These numbers are madness. USA's defense budget was $816.7 in 2023. They are saying the Trade Federation was able to launch a meaningful galaxy-spanning war by spending less than 3x times as much as a single nation on a single planet spends in a year on defense? I guess national defense was reduced to throwing really expensive balls of wadded up tissue paper at this time.
no not really... a YT 1300 freighter should cost about 50k credits... which is nuts. consider it a factor of 1000 more so 1 credit = 1000 dollars and you are good to go. especially since the dollar has no value on earth...
@@Xingmey okay, let's do some maths to demonstrate the point. Let's come up with a figure; we'll call it the Military Burden Index. This will be quite simply measured by the military spending divided by the population, to get the spending per capita. The spending per capita of our modern world will be given a Military Burden Index of 1. So the higher the MBI, the more costly it is compared to one year of modern military spending. For example, WW2 has an MBI of 7.27, meaning it cost, per person, over 7 times more than a year of modern military spending. The Clone Wars has an MBI of 0.0000000945, at USD/GC parity. That is a microscopically small figure. A Gerald R Ford class aircraft carrier, the largest ship in the world, costs about 100 times more than an Imperial Star Destroyer, so if we take that to mean 1 GC = 100 USD, that still gives the Clone Wars an MBI of 0.00000945. If we take your figure of 1 GC = 1000 USD, that's still 0.0000945. In order for the entire Clone Wars to have the same cost per person as modern military spending, a single Galactic Credit needs to be worth ten million US dollars.
I’ve always found the droid army design so damn cool, especially in episode 2 with the spider droids and the hailfires, and then in the battle of Kashyyyk or Mygeeto with the snail tanks and the octuptatra tri-troids.. these were just mere seconds on the screen, but as a kid, I immediately felt that. And don’t get me started about the republic vehicles, or CIS space ships..
Bear in mind, that some human element, such as slaves and prisoners along with automated factories would have been involved in creating these droids as the separatists would have used resources from many planets for metal etc, which would have increased the cost.
@@LaraA55hahaha okay yes, but employee workers wages need to cover all of that + some profit, you can't be arguing that slave labor is more expensive than normal labor?? Think about it a second
In conclusion : The droid army is obscenely cheap and would be cheaper than the prices listed since they don't need to buy any of the products, the production of equipment is self sufficient
Honestly, despite such calculations and huge numbers, the Separatist army was still brilliant, because droids as combat units themselves are the best solution to the army's problems. They do not need to be fed, trained, kept in barracks, given time off, there is no need to doubt their loyalty, because these are just machines that do everything according to the program. I don't think the clone army was worth less, although there are no official sources, but we know that it almost bankrupted the entire Republic, which means they was worth huge credits and several years of training even for each one.
Huge numbers? They would be small for Courasant alone, not to mention a Galactic war. Trying to take over multiple planets with that army should take decades and you’d barely have been noticed by the Republic as more than a nuisance.
@@TheDemigans Wdym? CIS had trillions of droids across all galaxy tho Republic had on it's peak about 20 million clones. This war took 4 years only because it was Palp's plan to them beat each other as long to bankrupt the Republic to have more reasons to become emperor. So yeah, idk why you doubt the separatist army here🤷♀️
Compare that to clone numbers which are laughably low. Also actually trying to conquer coruscant would be idiotic it would be much easier to cut off its trade routes which would force the planet to surrender
Not true at all, use simple logic. All these droids need to be housed, transported, maintained, and more importantly powered. Their navy fleet alone couldn't house this many droids most of them would just be sitting in warehouses
The Essential Guide to Warfare puts the total Clone army at 3+ million. •Squad (9 troopers) •Platoon (36 troopers) •Company (144 troopers led by Clone Captain) •Battalion (576 troopers led by Clone Battalion Commander) •Regiment (2,304 troopers led by Clone Regimental Commander, and a Jedi Commander, often a Padawan serving a Jedi General) •Brigade (9,216 troopers led by Clone senior Commander and a Jedi General. Some brigades were called Legions) •Corps (36,864 troopers led by Clone Marshal Commander and a Jedi General) •Sector Army (147,456 troopers led by highly experienced Jedi General) •Systems Army (294,912 troopers led by Jedi General, specifically members of the High Council) •Grand Army (3,000,000+ troopers plus support personnel) Interestingly, there is no mention of the scale of the Droid army, but it does give a similar makeup as with the Clones.
now do one for the cost of the clones as im sure it was probably more expensive for the republic to fund there army as clones need labratories,food,water,training,oxygen,shelter,bathrooms,armors,clothes,medacine,doctors,heat,showers and you gotta take ALLLLLL this everywhere you go all over the galaxy it actually adds up very fast
@@sneediumminer oh ya salary I forgot about salary I'm pretty sure the clones got paid I mean we do see them going to bars and buying drinks and getting paid once they retire so that's even MORE money I mean a Droid army is looking better all the time they don't need to retire and once they do you just shut them off and recycle them.
@@sneediumminerif I remember correctly I believe it’s $105k per year is the cost of a basic service man in the US but on the other hand we just used a $2 million dollar missile to destroy a commercial drone…..
To be honest, 2.6 trillion credits for the largest army the galaxy had ever seen really isn't that much. Considering that the U.S. military spent 2.3 trillion usd in just 3 years(2019-2021), and the republic credit isn't like 1 to 100 usd or something; It really doesn't sound that bad.
@@patheticbread6861yeah but unlike us, they have several hundred thousands of planets with population ranging from billions to trillions on each planet
it still doesnt make sense although yea the numbers are rough because remember that bill of more clones padme stopped and she brought into the economic factor of the average citizen when speaking to the senate
Fun fact: at one point the CIS (or trade federation, can’t remember) was struggling for funds, so they bought their droidecas with exotic meats, because the species that makes them are quite the cullinarians XD
There could well be several times more droids by the end than the beginning. Clones take about 9 years from creation to combat assuming they go to combat at equivalent of 18 years old for regular human. That means every clone that fought in the war was started before the war started within 4 years of Naboo. With droids you could probably build factory from nothing and crank out a reasonably sized army from that factory alone between beginning and end of the war.
That amount of money seems to be very expensive from our perspective because we compare it to Earth's economy but even using Earth as a reference point it isn't that crazy, ww2 for example cost 4 trillion dollars. But when you take into consideration that both the Republic and the CIS controlled the resources of hundreds of thousands of worlds those numbers suddenly seem insignificant. And while I think the number of troops should be much higher, the Clones and Droids only made up a fraction of the total millitary assets on both sides, maybe 5-15 percent, the majority were local forces like the Umbarians or Wookies for example.
There is a line in the (originally canon) Republic commando novel series by Karen traviss where the null arc trooper ordo was able to embezzel over a trillion credits from the republic by taking advantage of rounding errors in financial transactions over the course of the war and likely only the last year of the war. If this was possible, then the republics annual budget must be absolutely staggering and the cis would have to be as well. With that, 3 trillion credits doesn't seem like all that much after all. And with galaxy spanning empires governing trillions of beings, it doesn't seem like that much at all.
Well, at least one Legends source claims the Republic's annual budget by the late Clone Wars was measured in the Quadrillions of credits. The CIS, being backed by the biggest corporate and financial institutions in the galaxy, wouldn't be far behind that figure. So in that context, even if you tack on a couple hundred trillion credits to account for CIS heavy ground assets and military starships, it still makes some sense in-universe.
The price you have on B1's is insane. They weren't buying them retail. they were building them themsleves using slave labor like on Geonosis. Certain star fighters cost 30k, b1's were like 1.5k or slightly more.
I like this video because it puts into perspective just how masive an inter galactic war would be the prises of goods would be lower due to the larger number of planets with resources
No. There were 6.2 million units. A unit is a military term and it does not refer to one person. It Likely refers to a company size. Dooku also said his “100 to 1” line before he knew about the clones.
Is there some sort of Imperial credits to US dollar bullpark figure? Like how much is an Imperial credit worth? Cause 1 for 1 that would make the droid army absurdly inexpensive, out entire GDP of the planet is 100 trillion. So putting 10% of that purely into the droid army gets us 10 trillion which while harsh is entirely doable and you could repeat that every single year.
About the numbers: The truth: George never thought about this point: Army size in relation to galaxy size The maybe lore explanation: Camino didn´t mean with unit a single trooper, they meant a Squad or Platoon
I don't recall them saying that an individual clone was considered a unit. Could have been talking about military units. Squads, Platoons, Companies, etc.
Better than the idiotic canon number for the clones. the EU decided units meant squads or battalions, established local xefense forces did a lot of the fighting with ckones serving as renforcments in key areas and retconed in the crappy flash grown Spaarti clones for a reason. Your not waging a multifront interplanetary war with an army smaller than most of the major players in ww2.
Even the tiny buzz droids were expensive. In one of the Thrawn books he salvages one because of the expensive alloy which were used in their production (apparently same metal as was used for the Death star).
I remember once watching a video of soem trash companies seperating computer parts to melt primarily for gold, silver and copper... going to look into this more cause its been a while .
They aren’t all that expensive because single governments, in real life, spend trillions. If we add in the gun, a B1 is 2400. A B2 is 3000 to 3300. Why isn’t there more B2 available? They’re barely even more expensive.
Been introducing my gf to Star Wars for the past couple of months and we just started watching the clone wars TV show. Just watched the episode where gracious destroys a droid in front of dooku and he tells him that hat the droids are expensive. Made me wonder how expensive, glad this vid popped up.
I do think the numbers in attack of the clones are fudged, and even in revenge of the sith they do absolutely nothing to remedy this error. My personal head cannon is a "Unit" of clones is not a single clone, but an entire company of clones. Lama Su was never specific about what exactly a "Unit" was exactly. In real life a military "Unit" is a very specific subdivision of a company. This could literally mean anything depending of a arrangement of an Army. It's extremely vague and i think not only the community but many authors have took this way to far in the past.
You don't need to ship a whole ass trailer with a burger king or mcdonalds for droids, just a generator/power bank with plugins for the droids. It's easier to generate a bit of power for some droids than handle the whole logistics network needed to make a big mac.
I watched some videos about this subject. And, according to them, it could be 1 credit ~ 1dollar/euro. But, we Lack some crucial informations, such as the average purchasing power, to really understand the value of the money in the star wars universe
in games giving a begger 5 credits is like a meal and 200-500 credits is enough to get someone out of a bad situation ( leaving a planet) so its probably not far off
Just a wild guess. But the CIS spending would be about 35,7 trillion credits since we also need to factor in fuel, ammo, transportation and logistics. And even then I feel its much more than my belief
Lacked any context, how much can you buy for 1 credit? What is the income of a planet like Naboo, Corusant, Tatooine? You need this frame around the numbers for them to be meaningful.
I was in the United States Navy for a decent amount of time. The accountants make a lot of decisions regarding equipment & weapons. In war the accountants decide when the war is over.
The three million clones were already paid for in advance by visionary Jedi. What you are referring to is the bill that broke the budget. The Republic military enhancement bill were supposed to fund the production of five million clones. To fund this program the Republic had to take out truly massive loan with an interest rate at 25% which is insane. Also the Republic has just lost half its tax base to open revolt and to put down that revolt they’ve support a pan-galactic war.
To calculate the equivalent amount in USD, you can multiply the number of Star Wars credits by their value in USD. 2616000000000 credits × 1.34 USD/credit = 3498240000000 USD 2616000000000 credits×1.34 USD/credit=3498240000000 USD So, 2,616,000,000,000 Star Wars credits would be approximately 3,498,240,000,000 USD.
Give that the military spending of the US alone is 900 Billion USD, either the republic credit is just insanely valuable to the point that even a 1 percent republic credit is enough for a whole meal, or the droid army is 1 hell of a bargain for an alliance made up of hundreds of planets entire economies. Star Wars in general never did fully grasp just how large interstellar warfare is.
If this was real life, the US is the only country that could even begin to approach purchasing at this level. Could probably only be done if they raised taxes across-the-board and cut spending on other programs. Would be hard for them but it is doable. I believe I saw something where they spent almost 900 Billion in just one year on defense in like 2021 or something.
Yeah, these numbers are peanuts to USA. You wouldn't snap your fingers and produce the full batch anyway. It would likely take (at least) a few years to produce, so if the U.S. diverted all of their defense spending ($816.7 billion in 2023) to producing the army, they would be able to fund the endeavor throughout development without even raising taxes.
The various bits of "canon," don't really sync in Disney SW. That said, trillions of Cr may seem like a lot, but the powers in conflict would have thousands of systems, many with quintillions of inhabitants. An army of 6.2M is tiny. A few trillion is pocket change. BTW, the cost of the droids is still cheap compared to the cost of training, equipping, supplying and paying a sapient professional soldier.
That’s immense cost given our perspective, but there’s thousands of worlds in the Separatist Alliance and Republic, so expensive yes, but not as catastrophically expensive considering combined economic power. Normal operating cost of a peacetime Republic would be staggering as well.
It's not even remotely expensive from an American perspective. The U.S. spent $816.7 billion on defense in 2023 alone. USA could fund the conquest of a galactic empire in 3 years, and the planet as a whole could in one year, assuming a 1:1 conversion rate for USD and galactic credits.
This just might be me, but 1 billion droids seems really low to me, the clone wars were fought on a galactic scale, the separatists had maybe give or take 50,000 populated systems that’s like only 20,000 droids a planet. and while a large amount of droids, over an entire planet that’s a really small force
I think it is biggest problem was quality of droids. CIS was used mostly B1 droids and munificent destroyer, if CIS did more used better models (droideka, B2, HMP gunship, ig 100 and ST Super Tactical Droid) or ships (tri droids, hyena, recusant, providence destroyer) than CIS would win war.
From pure logistics point of view it would be nightmare to coordinate resupply for deployed driod armies. Between ammunition use and battery packs as well as replacement parts and reinforcements the supply chain would need multiple fleets to keep an army in comnat zone in working order. Same would apply for Clone legions if they exceeded certain treshold of deploment numbers. I think the numbers worked against CIS on that front, to the point smallest disruption in that chain would have critical consequences on frontline operations. Granted confederates had tactics that relied on war being series of short engagements with overwhelming numerical superiority and large territorial gains over short timeframe. The republic had more industrial potential which only needed to be shifted to military production. Once it was the numbers game started to shift against CIS. There was a way for CIS to win that. However it would require precision strikes against multiple industrial coreworlds. Targets would be infrastructure, material depots, factories, mines, agricultural centers and research complexes, communication hubs, starports and shipyards. When all the targets are eliminated the republic would have to relocate substantial amount of manpower and resources to recover their logistics backline further depriving frontlines of reinforcements and war material. I know Palp, Sith and Jedi are the focus points, but if you were to ignore shows comical incompetence and arrogance of CIS the ball would roll a bit different even with the space wizards presence.
These expenses aren’t as extreme as one might think. If we say 1 USD is equal to one credit, this is only 5x the US yearly military budget. I can picture a confederation of hundreds of planets backed by megacorps easily fitting the bill.
“Its a staggering number! So staggering that a single country on current Earth spends that much in a few years on it’s military and the CIS controls PLANETS”. These numbers are staggeringly low, minuscule, practically unnoticeable. The fact that we have had wars on our planet with more soldiers than the Clone Army and the military budget of our planet combined is larger than what the CIS spend over the course of the war is ridiculous. And then consider wages. Building, maintaining and arming a battle droid compared to the wages, training, food and lodging of a soldier or clone is a pittance. This is so dirt cheap that everyone would use them all the time non stop.
Yeah, but they saved a lot of credits on manufacturing costs by creating their own factories and unpaid labor, so the total costs were reduced to some degree.
First of all, all warfare is expensive. Secondly, this doesn't seem that crazy considering the Republic is hundreds or even thousands of planets and is fighting against the enemy covered here. Compare the CIS army cost against US debt and it's a little terrifying to think that we could have come close to having saved up enough money to fund the CIS.
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As soon as I read the title I already knew where this was headed. Dooku even told Grevious the B1 Battle Droids alone are expensive, so constantly beating them for no reason is a big no-no.
ironically enough, despite all of this... the CIS / Trade Federation did everything they could cut costs.... and it's still costed a Fortune.
I feel so bad for droids, they are killed for no reason.
Remember that one droid commander from the clone wars:"im not the commander, h heees the commaaander" 😥
And the droids for r2d2 got killed on citadel, because anakin hated them and ordered r2 to make them "sacrifice themselfs"
They could have escaped, but anakin wanted them dead
@@b1-horse-droidwhy do you feel bad for a droid that immediately sold out his buddy?
Matter of fact why do you feel bad for metal at all?
@b1-horse-droid what about my promotion?
B1 Battledroids aren't that expensive when you consider that human soldiers need to be paid and fed all year around, which adds up in terms of costs. On the other hand, B1's are a one-time investment which are already programmed to perform without any costs invested into training and conditioning.
Droids needs maintenance and repair. No idea how much food costs vs maintenance in a fictional world, but I’d assume it becomes similar.
@@danieljung785to be fair, they’d most likely be shot down and scrapped before their next maintenance.
@@danieljung785maintenance isn't nearly as as expensive considering the surplus of spare parts and droids that can perform these tasks.
@@danieljung785Look at how much a decent vehicle needs to be repaired. Then ship that vehicle to another planet. No gas or electricity, a vehicle could comfortably make it and still work. No food, water, entertainment, etc... for a human to make the same trip would end up with them dead.
It costs more to train a Marine recruit than a b1 costs. That is not including specialized training, housing, medical, retirement, massive logistical personal and VA expenses.
Count Dooku, “Those battle droids are expensive. The Jedi are never harsh with their clones.”
Meanwhile: Battle of Scipio, “Leave them.”
Well grevious kinda destroyed that batteldroid for no reason, on scipio they had a reason to leave quickly
@@emeraldhorn738sure russian bot the battle of scipo was a very bad battle as a Ukrainian I lost my grand parents in that city
@@dje583Was your Ukrainian grandfather a jedi?
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I thought jedi's couldn't have intimate relationships
wow for a galaxy spanning army that's insanely cheap, you could probably sustain an army 500 times that size with the resources of a single untapped solar system.
@@apsoypike1956 I'm well aware the numbers aren't accurate I'm exclaiming surprise at the context of how cheap it would be to build and maintain an army that size in a sci fi setting.
@@apsoypike1956 yup.
6.2 million number is ABSURD. Especially when you consider Republic Naval forces and all types of support roles like maintenance logistics, command are included in that number. How many clones does it take to man a venator class? Ill low ball it and estimate the same as a US super carrier at 5,000. Lets just say if they have 200 venators (low balling again) thats 1 million clones just to man their capital ships alone. Then think about things like frigates, support ships and cruisers, probably another 500,000 if were low balling. so now we have 5.7 million left. Now lets talk about logistics and maintenance clones. US estimated that for every frontline soldier they needed 6 maintance and logistics soldiers to support them. Lets say because of droids the GAR only needs 1:1. Still that cuts down their fighting force in half to 2.35 million. And now lets take into account casualties! I have no clue where to begin, but in we have seen in the movies and Clone Wars TV show probably a couple dozen venator class destroyed. 30x5,000= 150,000 and lets just assume ground losses are somewhere similar like 250,000. 2.35 million - 400,000 = 1.85 million. This is a smaller army than the peace time US ground forces. Makes no fuckin sense and everything was low balled. More realistic numbers 1,000 venators x 10,000 personell = 10 million another 10 million for all other ships. There are hundreds of important planets, in 20 million soldiers were actively deployed in combat in ww2 so we should expect something similar to defend/attack the top 10 most important planets so you get 200 million. for a total of 220 million. Which is still LOW because there are litterally thousands of planets, most of which are useless but id imagine atleast a couple hundred must be worth fighting for so if we give 1 million to these lower priority planets theres another 200 million for 420 million. And really the navy is just looking riduclously small at that point realistically you the navy should have similar amount of personnel so a more realistic number would be something like 800 million@@apsoypike1956
Milky Way has like 500 million decently habitable planets. So that's like two B1 battle droids to garrison each planet?
500 times? The total number of battle droids could be build by Courasant alone in a year and it wouldn’t even cost them more than 1% of their GDP. And they have thousands of systems under their control.
Realistically the number of battle droids should actually be the number of ships. But then you miss the “scrappy hero defeats this one ship/platoon/tank column and it’s a major blow” part of the story.
Unless I'm mistaken, the prices you're listing at not wholesale. They're purchasing as a private buyer. If you bulk ordered a lot of this stuff youd get a not insignificant discount. On top of that much of these units were produced in house and not just ordered from a third party. This brings the price down even more.
plus you realize that ultimately if our global economy generates an enornous amount of wealth, and the cis had 100s if 1000s planets, you realizes it's an army on the cheap
If you look at the price to made a droid XD (It's /2. And the wamon + ammo is aldery in the cost of the B1 at 1800. His real cost is only 1000 credits without gun)
500 credits of work for a B1. And 350 for the wapon + 50 ammo.
1 minning droid = 20 000 credits . He extracte engouth metalS for 10 ingénieur droid of 10 000 each. They produce for 5000 credits of work by day (at 10).
So for 120.000 you produce 5.5 B1 each day !
Acrual peice of a b 1 is about 1500 usd. These prices are not correct in video
There’s also the theory that when they say unit of clones, they mean 1unit = a battaillion or company. This would put the clones at ~670mm. Which would make sense on galactic scale
I'm going to accept this as my new head canon! Although looking at real world examples of the biggest wars on earth that number would still be low for an entire galaxy with about 100 quadrillion (100*10^24) inhabitants. I mean even just the peace time police force of a planet like Coruscant would probably need to reach into the tens if not hundreds of millions.
@@firstname8637except population in Star Wars Galaxy is low...way lower than Earth per planet.
Republic has 1,5 million planets with over 1,000,000 population(that is the limit of getting vote as planet in the Senate). When Alderan was blown up, Kenobi felt death of "millions".
@@AKUJIVALDO ...Which is way, way higher than our realworld galaxy. 1.5 million planets with more than one million inhabitants is a lot! And as far as I'm aware the overall population of 100 quadrillion is correct. Which would mean that even going by the theory, mentioned by @NextGen48, the clone army would make up a measely 6.7*10^-16% of the population. Even if we double that to account for seperatist worlds, thats still just 13.4*10^-16%. Which is redicolously low. For example: the us army soldiers on active duty right now make up around 0.4% of the us population. And the us is not even at war right now.
My favorite is the b1 battle droid.
Not because they are cheap, beacase they are cute.
Roger. Roger
Not only were clones much more expensive per unit, they also took a lot more time. The CIS was churning out multiple battle droids per minute, while each clone took 10 YEARS to raise and train.
Only first 1.2 milion clone series grew so long, last series of clones grew 3-5 years. I remeber in canon there was wrote that in first year of war most of the clones from original 1.2 milion was dead or wounded and republic was at the edge of lose. But then Palpatine relase new army of clones cloned on secret facility which reinforced original one. But these was raise only for a few years not 10 as original and wasnt so good as original ones.
@@davidrajtr8332 Those were from a different source entirely. In Legends he had other groups of cloners, like the Spaarti, doing clones. Introduced in the Thrawn books, before the prequel trilogy came out, they were cloning in as little as a few weeks... with some defects. But the Kaminoan technique hasn't really changed, and arguably, they are still the better clones. They just take rather a long time.
@@ElladanKenetThe Spaarti Clone cylinders were mostly destroyed by the CIS before they could be put to use for the republic. The surviving ones were moved to Wayland.
they were a more effective soldier than the average droid unit
For reference, global annual military spending is $2.2t (a Galactic Credit is often assumer to be more or less analogous to a USD). Considering there are over 100 quadrillion sentient living creatures in the Star Wars galaxy, a 2.6 trillion credit cost is significantly lower per person than military spending on Earth today, in an era of relative peace.
Not to mention that this 2.6 trillion cost is generally spread out over at minimum 3.5 years of conflict, but if you account for the droid armies already existing as security forces for decades prior it’s a much much more manageable number for a multiple-centuries old multi planet conglomerate corporation that’s rich and powerful enough to have a seat in the senate
@@spencerrr9878 exactly, for a historical parallel, the British East India Company kept a military force of 260,000 soldiers, twice as large as the British Army at the time. It's really not that odd to imagine the Trade Federation having a very sizeable military force even before the war started. Hell, we literally see them conquer Naboo, a major inhabited planet, with little difficulty in Episode 1.
These numbers are madness. USA's defense budget was $816.7 in 2023. They are saying the Trade Federation was able to launch a meaningful galaxy-spanning war by spending less than 3x times as much as a single nation on a single planet spends in a year on defense? I guess national defense was reduced to throwing really expensive balls of wadded up tissue paper at this time.
no not really...
a YT 1300 freighter should cost about 50k credits...
which is nuts.
consider it a factor of 1000 more
so 1 credit = 1000 dollars and you are good to go.
especially since the dollar has no value on earth...
@@Xingmey okay, let's do some maths to demonstrate the point.
Let's come up with a figure; we'll call it the Military Burden Index. This will be quite simply measured by the military spending divided by the population, to get the spending per capita. The spending per capita of our modern world will be given a Military Burden Index of 1. So the higher the MBI, the more costly it is compared to one year of modern military spending. For example, WW2 has an MBI of 7.27, meaning it cost, per person, over 7 times more than a year of modern military spending.
The Clone Wars has an MBI of 0.0000000945, at USD/GC parity. That is a microscopically small figure. A Gerald R Ford class aircraft carrier, the largest ship in the world, costs about 100 times more than an Imperial Star Destroyer, so if we take that to mean 1 GC = 100 USD, that still gives the Clone Wars an MBI of 0.00000945. If we take your figure of 1 GC = 1000 USD, that's still 0.0000945.
In order for the entire Clone Wars to have the same cost per person as modern military spending, a single Galactic Credit needs to be worth ten million US dollars.
I’ve always found the droid army design so damn cool, especially in episode 2 with the spider droids and the hailfires, and then in the battle of Kashyyyk or Mygeeto with the snail tanks and the octuptatra tri-troids.. these were just mere seconds on the screen, but as a kid, I immediately felt that. And don’t get me started about the republic vehicles, or CIS space ships..
Bear in mind, that some human element, such as slaves and prisoners along with automated factories would have been involved in creating these droids as the separatists would have used resources from many planets for metal etc, which would have increased the cost.
not to mention the addive cost as the supply chains become strained and certain metals and gasses become unobtainable as the war drags on
I feel like the use of slave labor and unethical business practices would have reduced the costs if anything
@@jonathanz.9675 not really, you need to feed people, house them, provide clothing and medical care
@@LOVEPHOENIXDANCER Yup, 👍
@@LaraA55hahaha okay yes, but employee workers wages need to cover all of that + some profit, you can't be arguing that slave labor is more expensive than normal labor?? Think about it a second
In conclusion : The droid army is obscenely cheap and would be cheaper than the prices listed since they don't need to buy any of the products, the production of equipment is self sufficient
Honestly, despite such calculations and huge numbers, the Separatist army was still brilliant, because droids as combat units themselves are the best solution to the army's problems.
They do not need to be fed, trained, kept in barracks, given time off, there is no need to doubt their loyalty, because these are just machines that do everything according to the program.
I don't think the clone army was worth less, although there are no official sources, but we know that it almost bankrupted the entire Republic, which means they was worth huge credits and several years of training even for each one.
Huge numbers?
They would be small for Courasant alone, not to mention a Galactic war. Trying to take over multiple planets with that army should take decades and you’d barely have been noticed by the Republic as more than a nuisance.
@@TheDemigans Wdym? CIS had trillions of droids across all galaxy tho Republic had on it's peak about 20 million clones. This war took 4 years only because it was Palp's plan to them beat each other as long to bankrupt the Republic to have more reasons to become emperor.
So yeah, idk why you doubt the separatist army here🤷♀️
Compare that to clone numbers which are laughably low. Also actually trying to conquer coruscant would be idiotic it would be much easier to cut off its trade routes which would force the planet to surrender
Not true at all, use simple logic. All these droids need to be housed, transported, maintained, and more importantly powered. Their navy fleet alone couldn't house this many droids most of them would just be sitting in warehouses
The Essential Guide to Warfare puts the total Clone army at 3+ million.
•Squad (9 troopers)
•Platoon (36 troopers)
•Company (144 troopers led by Clone Captain)
•Battalion (576 troopers led by Clone Battalion Commander)
•Regiment (2,304 troopers led by Clone Regimental Commander, and a Jedi Commander, often a Padawan serving a Jedi General)
•Brigade (9,216 troopers led by Clone senior Commander and a Jedi General. Some brigades were called Legions)
•Corps (36,864 troopers led by Clone Marshal Commander and a Jedi General)
•Sector Army (147,456 troopers led by highly experienced Jedi General)
•Systems Army (294,912 troopers led by Jedi General, specifically members of the High Council)
•Grand Army (3,000,000+ troopers plus support personnel)
Interestingly, there is no mention of the scale of the Droid army, but it does give a similar makeup as with the Clones.
now do one for the cost of the clones as im sure it was probably more expensive for the republic to fund there army as clones need labratories,food,water,training,oxygen,shelter,bathrooms,armors,clothes,medacine,doctors,heat,showers and you gotta take ALLLLLL this everywhere you go all over the galaxy it actually adds up very fast
human soldiers in the us army cost 30k in salary alone per year probably another 30k in equipment for a rifleman
@@sneediumminer oh ya salary I forgot about salary I'm pretty sure the clones got paid I mean we do see them going to bars and buying drinks and getting paid once they retire so that's even MORE money I mean a Droid army is looking better all the time they don't need to retire and once they do you just shut them off and recycle them.
@@sneediumminerif I remember correctly I believe it’s $105k per year is the cost of a basic service man in the US but on the other hand we just used a $2 million dollar missile to destroy a commercial drone…..
@@PsychonautSaiyan yeah I didnt account for room and board at all
On top of that you need years every time you want new troops while assembling a new robot probably only takes a few minutes.
To be honest, 2.6 trillion credits for the largest army the galaxy had ever seen really isn't that much. Considering that the U.S. military spent 2.3 trillion usd in just 3 years(2019-2021), and the republic credit isn't like 1 to 100 usd or something; It really doesn't sound that bad.
Well like he said there is way way WAY more stuff not mentioned, like the giant starships, power stations, etc
@@patheticbread6861yeah but unlike us, they have several hundred thousands of planets with population ranging from billions to trillions on each planet
@@casshernsins8333 ok and?
it still doesnt make sense although yea the numbers are rough because remember that bill of more clones padme stopped and she brought into the economic factor of the average citizen when speaking to the senate
@@brandonreyes2417 Well, star wars economy is a mythical realm that could be very confusing some times. lol
Fun fact: at one point the CIS (or trade federation, can’t remember) was struggling for funds, so they bought their droidecas with exotic meats, because the species that makes them are quite the cullinarians XD
My favorite are the commando droids, Cruel, Calculating,Durable, and Deadly. Also very expensive.
There could well be several times more droids by the end than the beginning. Clones take about 9 years from creation to combat assuming they go to combat at equivalent of 18 years old for regular human. That means every clone that fought in the war was started before the war started within 4 years of Naboo. With droids you could probably build factory from nothing and crank out a reasonably sized army from that factory alone between beginning and end of the war.
That's actually a really good price when you factor in space inflation
As soon as I saw the thumbnail, I remember General Grevious destroying the battle Droids. 😂
That amount of money seems to be very expensive from our perspective because we compare it to Earth's economy but even using Earth as a reference point it isn't that crazy, ww2 for example cost 4 trillion dollars. But when you take into consideration that both the Republic and the CIS controlled the resources of hundreds of thousands of worlds those numbers suddenly seem insignificant. And while I think the number of troops should be much higher, the Clones and Droids only made up a fraction of the total millitary assets on both sides, maybe 5-15 percent, the majority were local forces like the Umbarians or Wookies for example.
Local forces were not that significant, no, especially on the CIS side.
The droids are fun lads to watch and man they are pricey to produce
There is a line in the (originally canon) Republic commando novel series by Karen traviss where the null arc trooper ordo was able to embezzel over a trillion credits from the republic by taking advantage of rounding errors in financial transactions over the course of the war and likely only the last year of the war. If this was possible, then the republics annual budget must be absolutely staggering and the cis would have to be as well. With that, 3 trillion credits doesn't seem like all that much after all. And with galaxy spanning empires governing trillions of beings, it doesn't seem like that much at all.
Well, at least one Legends source claims the Republic's annual budget by the late Clone Wars was measured in the Quadrillions of credits. The CIS, being backed by the biggest corporate and financial institutions in the galaxy, wouldn't be far behind that figure. So in that context, even if you tack on a couple hundred trillion credits to account for CIS heavy ground assets and military starships, it still makes some sense in-universe.
Seeing Boston Dynamics drone costing $75k
A b1 battle droid is a steal
Assuming 1 sw credit = $1.00
Intergalactic banking clan has it covered , and plaguise had all the profits of generations of sith to dig into. Say thank you palpy
The price you have on B1's is insane. They weren't buying them retail. they were building them themsleves using slave labor like on Geonosis. Certain star fighters cost 30k, b1's were like 1.5k or slightly more.
I like this video because it puts into perspective just how masive an inter galactic war would be the prises of goods would be lower due to the larger number of planets with resources
No. There were 6.2 million units. A unit is a military term and it does not refer to one person. It Likely refers to a company size.
Dooku also said his “100 to 1” line before he knew about the clones.
Is there some sort of Imperial credits to US dollar bullpark figure? Like how much is an Imperial credit worth?
Cause 1 for 1 that would make the droid army absurdly inexpensive, out entire GDP of the planet is 100 trillion.
So putting 10% of that purely into the droid army gets us 10 trillion which while harsh is entirely doable and you could repeat that every single year.
About the numbers:
The truth: George never thought about this point: Army size in relation to galaxy size
The maybe lore explanation: Camino didn´t mean with unit a single trooper, they meant a Squad or Platoon
i wouldn't be surprised if the total credits came to 50 - 100 trillion credits including the ships and ammo.
I don't recall them saying that an individual clone was considered a unit. Could have been talking about military units. Squads, Platoons, Companies, etc.
Billions of battledroids feels like it's really low balling the number.
Better than the idiotic canon number for the clones.
the EU decided units meant squads or battalions, established local xefense forces did a lot of the fighting with ckones serving as renforcments in key areas and retconed in the crappy flash grown Spaarti clones for a reason.
Your not waging a multifront interplanetary war with an army smaller than most of the major players in ww2.
Not really sure if a quip about ordering 5 million more clones is indicative of the extent of clones created
Even the tiny buzz droids were expensive. In one of the Thrawn books he salvages one because of the expensive alloy which were used in their production (apparently same metal as was used for the Death star).
I remember once watching a video of soem trash companies seperating computer parts to melt primarily for gold, silver and copper... going to look into this more cause its been a while .
They aren’t all that expensive because single governments, in real life, spend trillions. If we add in the gun, a B1 is 2400. A B2 is 3000 to 3300. Why isn’t there more B2 available? They’re barely even more expensive.
all it takes is just one lightsaber and there goes your money
Does anyone know the price of the B2 Grappler Droid? They’re essential to my counter Jedi task force.
you are not accounting for buying in bulk... dooku goes to sams club
If you can print money, you can print an army.
$30k per solider seems like a bargain
To be fair, you don’t have to pay the droids, and you don’t really have to worry about a lot of accommodation, just battery and oil.
Been introducing my gf to Star Wars for the past couple of months and we just started watching the clone wars TV show. Just watched the episode where gracious destroys a droid in front of dooku and he tells him that hat the droids are expensive. Made me wonder how expensive, glad this vid popped up.
What you get wrong is that B1 Droid comes with a free blaster rifle.... so yeah
That’s nothing. You talking about galactic wealth. That’s like 100,000k to them
Would be interesting to know how much that would be in a real world currency and how that adds up to the destroyer like republic ships
Apparently according to mant people, it's basically the US Dollar
@@ibraheemshuaib8954and some people have figured out is some situations it’s over 1 million usd per credit
It would actually be a bit cheaper, purchasing these in mass would allow for bulk discounts
i wonder how much costed the clone army now ? it's maybe even more expensive since clones are living being who need food, cloth medical...and more.
Funny how these numbers are unbelievably small. They should add a few zeros to everything.
Assuming the CPI for a credit is 1:1 USD, 2.5 trillion is in line with a few years of the US defense budget.
This video is great and all, but wtf is a credit and how much is that?
I'm glad you asked, I have a video explaining just that here! ua-cam.com/video/LXlaRS5g9Wo/v-deo.html
I do think the numbers in attack of the clones are fudged, and even in revenge of the sith they do absolutely nothing to remedy this error. My personal head cannon is a "Unit" of clones is not a single clone, but an entire company of clones. Lama Su was never specific about what exactly a "Unit" was exactly. In real life a military "Unit" is a very specific subdivision of a company. This could literally mean anything depending of a arrangement of an Army. It's extremely vague and i think not only the community but many authors have took this way to far in the past.
For price comparison, how much is a basket of space eggs, space milk, and space bread in Star Wars?
600 credits for a crappy blaster known for jamming and with no safety?
That can't be right, the trade federation would never accept such a rip off
You don't need to ship a whole ass trailer with a burger king or mcdonalds for droids, just a generator/power bank with plugins for the droids. It's easier to generate a bit of power for some droids than handle the whole logistics network needed to make a big mac.
At worst you establish a couple of power plants on whatever planet you're invading once you can establish a secured zone
You're talking about retail prices, they were producing the goods themselves
Is there any information to what the exchange rate would be between credits and real world currency?
This would be cool to know
I watched some videos about this subject. And, according to them, it could be 1 credit ~ 1dollar/euro. But, we Lack some crucial informations, such as the average purchasing power, to really understand the value of the money in the star wars universe
in games giving a begger 5 credits is like a meal and 200-500 credits is enough to get someone out of a bad situation ( leaving a planet) so its probably not far off
what was said at 0:56?
actually the real amount is in the quintillions
Just a wild guess. But the CIS spending would be about 35,7 trillion credits since we also need to factor in fuel, ammo, transportation and logistics.
And even then I feel its much more than my belief
Lacked any context, how much can you buy for 1 credit? What is the income of a planet like Naboo, Corusant, Tatooine? You need this frame around the numbers for them to be meaningful.
That will be covered in tomorrow's video
I was in the United States Navy for a decent amount of time. The accountants make a lot of decisions regarding equipment & weapons. In war the accountants decide when the war is over.
So how much would a fully stocked Lucrehulk Battleship cost, fully retrofitted by the end of the war to be a massive battleship?
And yet the cost of the droid navy probably dwarfs it
What was the cost of the Clone Army.
I think more because it nearly bankrupted the Republic but im not sure
The three million clones were already paid for in advance by visionary Jedi.
What you are referring to is the bill that broke the budget.
The Republic military enhancement bill were supposed to fund the production of five million clones. To fund this program the Republic had to take out truly massive loan with an interest rate at 25% which is insane.
Also the Republic has just lost half its tax base to open revolt and to put down that revolt they’ve support a pan-galactic war.
approximatly 2800 trillions credits
American military complex: Hold my beer
I want to know how much money the separatist make!?
To calculate the equivalent amount in USD, you can multiply the number of Star Wars credits by their value in USD.
2616000000000
credits
×
1.34
USD/credit
=
3498240000000
USD
2616000000000 credits×1.34 USD/credit=3498240000000 USD
So, 2,616,000,000,000 Star Wars credits would be approximately 3,498,240,000,000 USD.
The interesting question is how much resources in terms of volume of asteroids or moons that needs to be mined to build all the droids.
Give that the military spending of the US alone is 900 Billion USD, either the republic credit is just insanely valuable to the point that even a 1 percent republic credit is enough for a whole meal, or the droid army is 1 hell of a bargain for an alliance made up of hundreds of planets entire economies. Star Wars in general never did fully grasp just how large interstellar warfare is.
If this was real life, the US is the only country that could even begin to approach purchasing at this level. Could probably only be done if they raised taxes across-the-board and cut spending on other programs. Would be hard for them but it is doable. I believe I saw something where they spent almost 900 Billion in just one year on defense in like 2021 or something.
Yeah, these numbers are peanuts to USA. You wouldn't snap your fingers and produce the full batch anyway. It would likely take (at least) a few years to produce, so if the U.S. diverted all of their defense spending ($816.7 billion in 2023) to producing the army, they would be able to fund the endeavor throughout development without even raising taxes.
There is no way in hell a B2 was 30k, considering an R7 is like 7k. That’s like saying a TieLN should cost more than an A wing.
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The various bits of "canon," don't really sync in Disney SW. That said, trillions of Cr may seem like a lot, but the powers in conflict would have thousands of systems, many with quintillions of inhabitants. An army of 6.2M is tiny. A few trillion is pocket change. BTW, the cost of the droids is still cheap compared to the cost of training, equipping, supplying and paying a sapient professional soldier.
That’s immense cost given our perspective, but there’s thousands of worlds in the Separatist Alliance and Republic, so expensive yes, but not as catastrophically expensive considering combined economic power. Normal operating cost of a peacetime Republic would be staggering as well.
It's not even remotely expensive from an American perspective. The U.S. spent $816.7 billion on defense in 2023 alone. USA could fund the conquest of a galactic empire in 3 years, and the planet as a whole could in one year, assuming a 1:1 conversion rate for USD and galactic credits.
Assuming they had to pay for the droids and weapons and not just manufacture them.
2 trillion isnt as bad as I tought it would be
How much is one credit to today’s dollar?
Generation tech calculated $1.38, but also some spaceships are cheaper than minivan but that's due to technology improvements
bro the US is broke if its in the star wars galaxy it would be around 4,1175,840 USD
@@LanceChua9743 the . US . Is . Broke….. PFFFT AHHAHAHAHAA!!!!😂🤣😂🤣😂. Bahahahahaaaaa!
Given the fucking economy, credits are worth a lot more 🙄
What about the ships and military bases, and logistical systems and other support stuff? That must be at least as much as the droids.
But was that the selling cost or the production cost? because if it was the sales cost, then their cost if self-produced would be 10 times lower.
This just might be me, but 1 billion droids seems really low to me, the clone wars were fought on a galactic scale, the separatists had maybe give or take 50,000 populated systems that’s like only 20,000 droids a planet. and while a large amount of droids, over an entire planet that’s a really small force
I think it is biggest problem was quality of droids. CIS was used mostly B1 droids and munificent destroyer, if CIS did more used better models (droideka, B2, HMP gunship, ig 100 and ST Super Tactical Droid) or ships (tri droids, hyena, recusant, providence destroyer) than CIS would win war.
From pure logistics point of view it would be nightmare to coordinate resupply for deployed driod armies. Between ammunition use and battery packs as well as replacement parts and reinforcements the supply chain would need multiple fleets to keep an army in comnat zone in working order. Same would apply for Clone legions if they exceeded certain treshold of deploment numbers. I think the numbers worked against CIS on that front, to the point smallest disruption in that chain would have critical consequences on frontline operations.
Granted confederates had tactics that relied on war being series of short engagements with overwhelming numerical superiority and large territorial gains over short timeframe. The republic had more industrial potential which only needed to be shifted to military production. Once it was the numbers game started to shift against CIS.
There was a way for CIS to win that. However it would require precision strikes against multiple industrial coreworlds. Targets would be infrastructure, material depots, factories, mines, agricultural centers and research complexes, communication hubs, starports and shipyards. When all the targets are eliminated the republic would have to relocate substantial amount of manpower and resources to recover their logistics backline further depriving frontlines of reinforcements and war material.
I know Palp, Sith and Jedi are the focus points, but if you were to ignore shows comical incompetence and arrogance of CIS the ball would roll a bit different even with the space wizards presence.
There’s no way a galactic conflict only had 6 million combatants.
Dude world war 1 alone had more.
Like what
Cool Vid
No wonder the separatists - Trade Federation plundered each World they conquered for all of their riches they needed to pay back that loan😂😂😂
Don't have to payback the loan if the loaning planet is gone XD
If credits are about the same value as the USD, that's pretty cheap. One planet could fork out that much money, let alone 10, 50, or 1,000.
These expenses aren’t as extreme as one might think. If we say 1 USD is equal to one credit, this is only 5x the US yearly military budget. I can picture a confederation of hundreds of planets backed by megacorps easily fitting the bill.
Tbh 30k is very cheap compared to human soldier when you include training, equipment, food, salary, rehabilitation etc
Im curious of the cost of the Cortosis B2 Super Battle Droids given the rarity of Cortosis metal 🤔
“Its a staggering number! So staggering that a single country on current Earth spends that much in a few years on it’s military and the CIS controls PLANETS”.
These numbers are staggeringly low, minuscule, practically unnoticeable. The fact that we have had wars on our planet with more soldiers than the Clone Army and the military budget of our planet combined is larger than what the CIS spend over the course of the war is ridiculous.
And then consider wages. Building, maintaining and arming a battle droid compared to the wages, training, food and lodging of a soldier or clone is a pittance. This is so dirt cheap that everyone would use them all the time non stop.
Crazy how the separatists didn’t beat the republic, especially with that much of an advance
Yeah, but they saved a lot of credits on manufacturing costs by creating their own factories and unpaid labor, so the total costs were reduced to some degree.
Yeah X video haven’t you seen it like how much pressure does it take
2 trillion isn't that expensive to conquer galaxy considering that US spent 2t on Afghanistan alone
First of all, all warfare is expensive. Secondly, this doesn't seem that crazy considering the Republic is hundreds or even thousands of planets and is fighting against the enemy covered here. Compare the CIS army cost against US debt and it's a little terrifying to think that we could have come close to having saved up enough money to fund the CIS.
How much did it cost to create all of the Clones?
In Clone Wars was epizode with negotation about new clone part.
There was said 5 milion credits are need for 1 milion clone program.
The cost would be crazy if not for the fact that clone armour alone was 3 times as much the cost of 1 B2