[Reupload] Doctor Who's 60th Anniversary was Abysmal
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- I realize I'm late to the party on this one, but I've finally gotten around to covering the 60th Anniversary Specials for Doctor Who. While an anniversary special should celebrate the show, these were not only underwhelming and disappointing, but they ruin the characters, ruin a big moment from Tennant's original run and it doubles down on The Timeless Children, which is infamous for completely destroying The Doctor's entire backstory.
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"You can never have a human villain since that would be portraying a real world group badly"
The trick, of course, is that the people who advocate this viewpoint tend to view a couple of real world groups (you know who I mean) as genuinely evil in real life, and thus completely OK to malign.
what real world groups?
Get that jelly mold out of here
my honest reaction to you not getting that jelly mold out of here
Get that jelly mold out of here!
Why isn't the jelly mold outta here?
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Well, the new (not) Davros is a non-wheelchair user who is evil and I find that offensive to me who can walk.
53:40
Which does not even make sense because "gravity" comes from the Latin "gravitās" meaning "weight." And Sir Isaac Newton, being a learned man, would have known Latin and would have either used "gravity" (as he heard it from them) or, as he did in real life, "gravitas". Not a dumb unfounded in language "mavity"...and, also, why would the doctor use the word when he would not have been changed by it considering he lives outtatime (to quote Back to the Future).
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Also, the sonic screwdriver should not be able to work on brick. As shown in the 50th anniversary it would take centuries for them to be able to decode rock.
There was an entire episode about how the Doctor couldn’t stand still during Matt Smith’s time, when he had to stay on earth with Amy and Rorie to Examine the weird cubes that just sort of appeared. I don’t buy that the Doctor would just retire away somewhere.
I mean even at the end he was still taking trips to different planets but yea either way it does feel wrong they should have just not done the biregeneration it made needless problems
See, your problem is that your memory works and you know what the character is (or was) like. They don't do that anymore
Regarding Donna's lottery winnings. Don't forget the ticket was paid for by Donnas father.
Cree: "Should i do the Acolyte or Dr. Who first?"
Poll: "Acolyte: 64%, Dr. Who: 36%"
First video: Dr. Who
*S o t h i s i s h o w d e m o c r a c y d i e s*
This is a reupload! REEE
I've still been meaning to get to the Acolyte too.
@@Creetosis definitely a reeeeeee-upload
result: both are irredeemable garbage, both is a lose xD
40:49 i remember when the supposed controversy about davros started there were fans who were physically disabled who tweeted how much they enjoyed being able to cosplay davros and how they felt that Davis was trying to erase a well known disabled character for the sake of political correctness. End of the day all characters can and should come in all shapes and sizes and anyone who thinks a minority should be excluded from certain character types needs to understand the difference between fiction and reality
Moreover Davis brought davros back before in his original updated design and flat out said that there was no reason to change such an iconic design
Yeah these people don't realize how racist they are. Oh, you're black AND disabled? There is no way you could be evil! By default you have to be a good guy!
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An actor could be -a high ranking cult member- Tom Cruise and nobody would care as long the performance is good.
After Seasons 11,12 and 13 FLUX! one would have thought it impossible to do worse but RTD pulled it off. We now have the four worst seasons of DW in a row. Once we would have thought that near impossible. RTD you are not in a wheelchair and I am starting to see you as evil!
I think a let's play of Fallout:London would be cool and good for the channel.
Thank you for a well thought out and concise coverage of this failure bow on the original reboot series.
Im glad others weren't taken by the attempt at memberberries and nostalgia to boost viewers either.
You claim to have stopped watching Doctor Who after the 50th near the end of your video. I cannot stress enough how phenomenal the Capaldi era of the show is. I agree with a good chunk of what you had to say in this video, but honestly my main takeaway is that more people should watch The Twelfth Doctor lmao
@@SpencyRockMC I have heard mixed, but generally good things. I want to do videos covering the revival to the end of Jodie's era, so I will eventually be watching Capaldi's era.
I stopped on the 50th too. I actually remember having a long discussion with a friend at the time how doctor who was just wasted potential, its stagnant and can't stick to any real changes.(and I had grown up watching the series with my parents so I would have a "pro" doctor who bias) I had seen better fan spin-off concepts of the same character by then.
I doubt that exact thought is how many felt, but its interesting to hear that I am not the only one who dropped off around then, and considering where they ended up...
To be honest, I don't think they can ever really fix it, at best they can get "good enough" to get the mainstream back who just want to see episode of the week drama. But for anyone with an interest in long term storytelling and exploration of what a character like Doctor Who really would be, and could become, it will always be too lazy.
If you think about it, Doctor who is just a Pokemon or Simpsons for adults.(and that is taking it very generously with what it is now) A world that never really changes, characters that have no arc and world building with no weight. It is crazy to think that My Little Pony(4) ended up having more ambition than Doctor Who when it came to writing a story-throughline.
FTL and FF9 music ? you're feeding us well creetosis !
Good video Creet also GET THAT JELLY MOLD OUTTA HERE
It's not a franchise that has been treated well, unfortunately... Shame
Huh i never considered that for Harry Potter
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Wheels should have been Kate Lethbridge-Stewart, would fix both the wheelchair in a factory and this conversation, considering the fact he kind of trusts Kate.
Reminds me of Jäger from R6 being revealed to be Autistic. As someone with Autism, I fucking hate people who are revealed to be secretly x group. It feels forced and patronized.
It is somewhat comforting to know that embarrassing, performative writing that comes off as patronizing more than anything positive isn't just a problem that's found in a lot of US-centric properties right now.
Why is Tennant the doctor now? I thought he was 20 years ago? Wasn't it that blonde middle aged woman? Im so confused
sit down grampa, take your woke pills lolololol
Dr. Who has now died twice. sad
The blonde middle-aged woman regenerated into Tennant because the ratings were bad and they needed some nostalgia bait, so that was a thing for about four episodes, and then they had him regenerate into a black man who can't stop crying at every little thing, which made the ratings even worse.
@@mustard7306 Thanks. Dr Who has lost any sense of coherence
Now he's a gay black guy prancing around, doing pirouettes and fighting drag queen singers. I am not joking.
Why was this re-uploaded?
Was the original taken down?
@@noregrets5258 demonetized
@@Creetosis thats a shame, it was a really good video. at least it gives me an excuse to watch it again :D
@@Creetosis Well damn, now I really want to watch this.
@@Creetosis So, white knight Alphabet punished you for hurting poor Disney and the BBC's hurt fee-fees with your analysis of this pile of slop they tried to pass off as an episode of Doctor Who. Alphabet needs to rebrand this place to what it actually is: CorpoTube, because it certainly isn't UA-cam any more, and hasn't been for years.
For the algorithm
This small era was one of the eras of The Doctor of all time
Ok i admit i like it,cause i like Tenant so much i bought Just Cause 3 just because he was one the fcking radio
Im the problem and im ashem of it,
Not even gona pull the is better that the cheapnail era cause even staring at an a static tv is
So yeah, not the worst modern era but clearly at the bottom ain't much of a compliment, yet idk when you are an alcholic of nostalgia the chepest bose may do when all you had drink for the time is sewer whater
I was rewatching Doctor Who anyway and just pass by i supose, just a guilty pleasure we can say
I don't how anyone who is white can still live in Britain nonetheless in what seems like a main city or town. Ig I can't speak because I'm in New York and it's almost as bad as Britain,
Honestly even with your comment it's just hard to listen. How cay they fuck up this badly is beyond my comprehension...
I knew something like this would happen the moment they announced RTD would be coming back. Everybody was all hyped about it, thinking it would save Doctor Who, and I said no, it'll only make things even worse.
>Insert Razorfist spinning in his chair here<
Not that I wanted to be right. I wanted the show to get back on track and be good again. But instead it was just the start of another dark age, where the show is better left canned.
A Razorfist fan? A fellow man of culture, I see.
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I do not get that criticism considering the fact the vast majority of houses in London are that style. All my family in England owns that type of house except my aunt and uncle and they do not live in London (and there house is considered large for England, when it is probably smaller than the average American house).
My favourite part about the episode is when they showed off the fact they could film where ever inside compared to the previous one which was _horribly_ designed and only allowed a few filmable angles. But also, I do not really like this Tardis very much because it feels flat, especially when compared to Peter Capaldi's last Tardis (which Chibnal had blown up) which was one of the best.
Who would want to live in London? One invasion after another. Tennant has been overused and I have Tennantitis. Every person who mentions DW always raves about Tennant but I find his overt often selfish emotional bellowing annoying.
With what they've been doing to the series, nothing surprises me anymore. Bad writing and agendas.
>RTD became a clown
no he was ALWAYS a clown, he was ALWAYS a super progressive propagandist, it's just that 20 years ago they still had to hold back a little. He didn't go bad, he was always like this.
Of course they made her daughter bleg-ack LMAO
They could've made use of Rocket Launcher Wheelchair Lady's association with and knowledge of UNIT by having her instead use their equipment when they're taken out of the picture. A gun, like you said, but she could've also gotten a breaching charge that a military unit like UNIT would probably have on hand if they thought they might need one, so she'd still be how they get through the wall, but in a more logical fashion. That'd show resourcefulness on her part as well as competence and that she pays attention to things not strictly related to her job as a science advisor. Instead, we get the funny wheelchair rockets.
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I have been recently getting into doctor who (havent watched a season yet) but even i could tell how much the screwed up the doctor.
Eh, sounds like an average drw episode.
My god it's bad. Awful writing, awful story, HEAVY unnecessary real world politics injection pulling you right out of any immersion or escapism. Just painful.
utter garbage and continually getting worse, i stopped watching half way through Whittaker's first season
Bad analysis when you originally did it and still bad now. You can do better than this
What's wrong with it?
@@Creetosis/videos Alright, I'm going through the video again to remind myself of the criticisms. One thing that is frustrating for someone who has watched the specials is that your criticisms are linear, in that it doesn't take into account future information. You complain about the happy ending at least twice before reaching the scene where Donna explains why she got rid of the money, which is bad review writing.
There are moments in the video, like "Why is the doctor talking to the unit girl in the wheelchair?" which have a fairly obvious answer when you've watched the rest of 2005 Doctor Who, or even have knowledge of Classic Who, The people in UNIT are known to be investigating phenomenon or know details which the Doctor bounces off. Tennant when he was 10 was also fairly rambly to randoms all throughout S2 through S4.
Disabled people in wheelchairs perform all sorts of tasks in society and don't need to be relegated to the back of a truck or an office. It is perfectly understandable for a science/investigator role at UNIT to be on-site if required. The danger that she's in is accepted as part of working at UNIT.
To complain that the doctor doesn't instantly house invade with the sonic screwdriver is an odd criticism, the motivations for using the screwdriver are regularly established before it's use and it's common for the show to do something like that door scene.
Complaints about the comedy is very strange too. Is this an Americanism? Sometimes things are a joke and can be laughed at.
Doctor Who is a famously underfunded show and if you've watched some of the earlier scenes you'll know that what we got in these specials is a step above most of what we've had.
The force-fields of the sonic screwdriver were set up before they were used in the scene, it's not like the sonic hasn't done some pretty wild stuff beforehand, it's actually one of the better examples of the sonic doing something unbelievable. It opening doors and stuff like that is just taken for wrote but that was just introduced at some point. It's a multi-tool that only exists for the plot.
I didn't mean to send that without the rest of my argument. Oh well.
Do you just hate Rose's actor? Because she's an actor, she doesn't come up with the lines and her performance is perfectly acceptable and in-line with the kind of performances throughout 2005 Who.
-- Just got to 38ish minutes in and oh, it's a *political* complaint? I'm not sure how much movie stuff you've done (I have mainly enjoyed your video games critique content) but villains from marginalised groups is extremely common in-fact and there is a wealth of analysis from both marginalised and non-marginalised people about how that kind of *exclusive* representation can be a problem. While I think that you could argue that maybe he's being too cautious around the topic, to say it has *no* impact would be media illiteracy.
-- "Her only character trait is that she is transgender", bearing in mind that she is a minor character in a doctor who episode she's more fleshed out than many characters like say, the thin and fat Anglican marines. Showing real struggles in Doctor Who isn't new either, can a character not be transgender and get transphobic abuse from in-story characters?
-- The pronouns bit isn't to push a message, it was a gaff, a bit, a little joke! It was meant to be funny and you missed it because... you were mad about them mentioning pronouns, i guess. It's a little silly getting worked up about it when the only people who did get worked up about it are the kind of people you wouldn't want to associate with.
-- A small correction regarding non-binary, people can be non-binary men and women, it's not a strict and defined term, but that's a minor point and you did admit you don't know about it.
-- The male-presenting timelord thing I believe is meant to be a joke, it's kind of unclear and fumbled, I'd recommend watching a video by verilybitchy about this topic as I believe you'd find it interesting from a media analysis point of view.
-- Another small correction "male-presenting" is just a kind of modern-ish way of saying "looks like a man/male", the terminology is confused so I don't blame you for not knowing.
"A show that is generally more serious like Doctor Who" definitely comes across like someone has not watched the series beforehand, no one can seriously say the show with mannequins coming to life and living fat is "generally more serious", it's camp!
The Doctor, especially 10 is an emotional and slightly egotistical creature, your framing of him over this video coming into and being forced to interact with his *best friend* is sad and lacking empathy, when he was interacting with Donna before the ship, he was being wilfully ignorant to the possible consequences, bottling up what he was doing to live some of his best moments once again, to have it unleashed in one outburst where he knows what he will do will 100% resign her to her fate. It's emotionally compelling.
Things like the drive destroying an area to take off and undoing that kind of damage is very Doctor Who, there have been tonnes of examples of similar things with similar endings all throughout 2005, they can and have done it before, it's par for the course.
Personally I was a fan of Wild Blue Yonder, it has some good themes, actions and resolves some of the timeless child plot and hand-waves it into a "we don't talk about that" kind of territory. The race-swap is nothing to complain about as Doctor Who is known for playing fast and loose with history. And while you might not like it "Mavity" is very clearly a joke.
Bi-generation is fun, don't you think? It's meant as a way to shed a little bit of continuity as series 14 is a soft-reboot, so it's meant to lead to a Doctor that is fresh and doesn't need to handle some of the more entrenched problems in his psyche. Don't forget that regeneration originally was an ass-pull so the show could continue without the first Doctor.
The whole doctor age thing I personally think is a little pedantic. He was exaggerating about being a billion, it's just a replacement for "very old". But I think if you don't see the Doctor as a character that is always running, you could watch, oh I don't know, the first four series of 2005 Who that established him as a character that doesn't relax, always having to do something, like he has a case of ADHD, but it's because he can't stop because of the trauma, the same trauma that was established throughout 2005 Who and if I remember correctly playing a huge part of the 50th anniversary. You literally acknowledge it's not a character trait for him to stop and relax! The Tennant Doctor in this case is being *forced* to live out the therapy, that's why he's with Donna's family, to keep him in-line with is *best friend*.
I don't know, it just feels like most of this video was a vehicle to complain about social issues, but I don't want to think that because I hope that anyone who would go our of their way to make long videos would be engaging honestly. So I do apologise, I do not want to make the accusation.
@@Creetosis Holy crap, do a "comment section spesiale", kawaii pls?!?!
Algoooo
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No I have an issue with POC being casted in traditional European art and stories. It’s insulting