Many have complained about the Milwaukee blade motor's plastic housing -the black bulge to which the blade connects. They say that when you hit a hard object, the housing breaks off and can not be repaired. Is the EGO blade motor housing made of plastic or metal?
Appreciate the thorough review! I was looking to get the Ego until I heard the drive squeal on multiple review videos. It's louder than the blades! Sounds like a kids toy! Ego build quality looks good. Power specs sound good. Ego always seems to gets it to the 1 yard line then fumbles the ball. The drive squeal is a deal breaker for me. Thanks for the video and keep up the great content!
@@515Mike - I’ve had an EGO for 4 years now. I think you’re being short sighted. Mine performs every bit as good as my previous gas powered mover. Not only is it might quieter, but you don’t have to deal with gas, spark plugs, and it folds up to a compact footprint. I’ve never experienced any “squeal” with the assist drive and I use it frequently. Try talking to people who actually own an EGO vs making a decision based on a couple of videos you watched. I’ve been nothing but extremely satisfied with mine.
Al, great review👍 I still don't understand how they say you get a 22" cut with a 21" blade🤔 I'd be interested to know, after you've mowed with the EGO for a while , if you think the extra weight improves the cut.. Have a terrific weekend..
Outstanding and very detailed review. Having the Milwaukee myself i agree to all your points. I had a friend on IG from the UK send me an upgraded mulch plug which works much better. My guess is they are aware of the leak issue but not available in the US which doesnt make sense. I dont mulch much so not a super big deal but unexceptable for a mower that expensive. The one thing i absolutely like the best is how smooth the drive system is. Variable speed control allows you to feather the speed no matter the speed settimg exactly like a Honda HRX. Silky smooth. The Ego looks very solid. My one wish for milwaukee is to have a dual blade vs. single. Thanks for sharing this video as i could only imagine the time and effort it took to make. 💯👍
I was on the fence to go into a battery lawnmower, I’m in the mid 40’s and my13yr push 140cc Troy-built was giving me issues, which could probably resolve if I repaired. After watching tons and tons of a of videos old and recent of ego, Ryobi, and Milwaukee, decided to buy the M18 one. I just picked up today and used for the first time. I live in FL which St. Augustine grass is very thick, I very picky and maintain my lawn at the time, but this time I had way overgrown grass, like 3-4 week, and that in FL during the summer is a pain to cut. Approximately 6k-7k square feet. Man let me tell you, where my old mover kept bugging down in a situation like this, this M18 beast didn’t skip a bit. It never stopped, bugged down, nothing. I always mulch, so I did with this one. Settings: height 3”, self-propelled speed 3, always turbo mode, and mulching. Did all my lawn and still had 2 bars left of battery. I’m far impressed with this beast. I made the mistake to cut my lawn around 1pm FL time, where is it hot as heck. Never saw any overheating on the machine, batteries or any issues because of that. Also as you said, never had an issue with looking at the battery gauge, very bright and easy to read. Observation: that I have seen on this video and others the m18 machine mulching plug leaking, I didn’t experience this. Never had leaks and the machine performed like a champ. Grass clippings are supper fine and again was mulching and cutting and very high and overgrown grass, the backyard most of all was cutting way more than 6”, with no need to overpass. I was also thinking about the Ego LM2206SP, which you have on the video, since it has good power and it's aluminum deck, but Jesus, that high pitch from the self prop, you can even hear that all the time more than the actual blades cutting, very uncomfortable. I looked at LM2156SP or 2135, to light, tested them at store, seems to light in the front, and the all plastic doesn't bring confidence IMO. On the M18, you almost don't hear the self prop at all. Going backwards, wheels don't get stock, and you don't hear the self prop motor, it moves freely if you don't use self prop. The machine is heavy, like a gas one. For the deck, as long as you clean the deck every time, just with a towel and use a blower, it should last a very, very long time. Best of all, the storage, take out batteries, put it upright position and that's it. No more dealing with gas, fumes, gas smell or leaks in the garage, oil, etc. For me, this was more about convenience and get to cut fast and do it faster without struggles. A convenience you will get with any electric mower. M18 is not cheap, that's true, same at the ago, and maybe for someone that cuts their lawn and maintains it every week or so, I'll say this could be overkill, but if you skip a couple of weeks, be certain the M18 is a beast, something else and for someone on the M18 platform already, this will be a no-brainer just because of the batteries. My neighbors both have Toro and Honda, and their machine bug down and struggle while cutting grass the way I did today. I still need to test when is darker, to test while adding lights, and see how much battery will last with that. Finally, before someone else comments, I'm not a fanboy, this is actually my second Milwaukee tool. I have a very old first gen M12 1/2 stubby, and a Kobalt XTR Impact Driver, that's as much as power tools I have. My trimmer, blower, chainsaw are still gas, still using 13yr Ryobi expand it system. I have plans to change those to battery soon, and probably will go with M18, for convenience. From initial experience, on the M18 machine I’m blown away, note I didn't have any other electric mower before, I just wanted something that could perform or be one of the best. The m18 is a beast of a lawnmower. This and your videos were one of the few that helped me with my decision. Thanks and Great video.
Thank you and if you’ve experienced it, then you know it doesn’t happen all the time, but everyone continues to say it’s a feature of the Mower but if it was, it should happen all the time and it doesn’t. I think the thing that really bothers me is when I’m not using self-propel and it happens, that is really weird
Milwaukee wheels are VERY good. Even if it is a VERY heavy mower, it is relatively easy to push it. Bearing + large wheels size. I use self propel only on slopes or to accelerate the mower. Once at speed, I do not use it anymore. If the EGO is not free-wheeling backward, even only 30% of the time, THAT is a deal breaker to me.
M18 ecosystem, lower/less annoying propel whine, free moving wheels when unpropelled, different power modes, and smaller batteries is why I chose the milwaukee mower for my 1/2~ acre yard. If you need big ego batteries for the riding mowers, blowers, chainsaws, inverters, or not in the milwaukee 18v/makita 18v/40v line, then an OPE focused brand would be a good choice for a lot of homeowners. I only need four 8 ah batteries to trim and mow my whole yard. I don't want 7.5ah+ 56v batteries sitting for 6~ months of the year. The amount of use from each m18 battery compared to the 4x~ a month used 56v/60v batteries for a small home owner should be greatly considered. Though I will say to wait for a gen 2 milwaukee mower if you are not in the ecosystem. Great video TME!
I know this isn’t an apples to apples comparison but ego is about to release a commercial 22” with over 14 f/lbs of torque, almost silent self propel because it’s brushless (they cheaper out in this model) and it holds 2 batteries
if you call ego they will send you a side discharge chute and a high lift blade they sent it out to me and I received them both 10 days after calling them and I didn't get charged anything which is good but I believe the extra blade and side discharge chute should come with a $1200 mower but its worth every penny and thank you for you videos.
These are nice but over priced... I would take the new GreenWorks 22 for $599 any day of the week over these... Even the old GreenWorks 60v 21 was/still is a great mower!
You will find this interesting! If you go to home depots one star reviews of the milwaukee mower you will see that quite a few users have shown pictures of the mower blade houseing snapping off when the mower comes into contact with foreign objects in the yard because it is all plastic making the mower unreparable and useless. A serious fatal flaw!
Exactly although I really want this mower those reviews are deal breaking for me. It's been 3 years they definitely need a second gen of this Milwaukee.
Appreciate your content. Simple, fair head to head comparison with very little bias. I have extensive experience with both Ego and Milwaukee ope having run both commercially. For a home owner I would recommend both. For commercial users I would lean heavily towards The Milwaukee system due to battery durability and tool weight with larger batteries. I stayed a way from Ego mowers due to the plastic construction and dual blades but have probably thousands of hours on their other tools......introduced me to battery ope tools. Their batteries really are their weak point commercially with most failing within two years plus they are heavy. The Milwaukee mowers weak spots are poor rear flap design, less than ideal weight balance when bagging and the lack of a true high lift blade. I haven't experienced the mulch plug issue. Big plus of the mower is speed....everywhere. Thanks for the content.
I bought 2 of the brand new Egos 22 inch and returned them. They both had 1 wheel that spins freely, it also sits highER than the other one (front) After shopping and shopping it was best to try #3 by Ego. It also has the SAME PROBLEM! Has anyone else noticed? I emailed them the video after calling them. Tomorrow will be day 3 no RESPONSE BACK. Why did I pick Ego again? I just didn't want to wait TWO HOURS for the Milwaukee battery to charge. That's ridiculous! So, I only used the Ego because it is new and came not fully charged for maybe 10 minutes. It seemed to chew right through everything at ease!
Milwaukee cut height adjustment will fail if it "hits" anything. Cedars, fence, or whatever. Then you cut a notch or two lower and notice it only minutes later. I HATE single lever. No professionals like it.
Hey hey my friend, I really wish the EGO company would just sponsor you and let you do free rain of the equipment and products they sell, i think the ego mower is my favorite so far, i think the Milwaukee mower is cool too, both mowers seem to have serious power and i think the placement of the ego headlights is much more better than the Milwaukee mower and i think that ego has a bunch of different choices as where the Milwaukee just has the one variant as of now, as always, I enough the thoroughness of the video as always and keep on making wonderful videos my friend
@@TechMadeEzy its the way they've built them all. there are switches in the handles to detect that you've extended them and the wiring is internal, which is great in concept, but they've had issues with the switches failing or wires getting pinched and the mower won't run. the external wires and no switches on the other brands seems to work fine. I haven't tried my Makita mower to see if it can start while folded, which is what Ego is trying to prevent.
My ego lm 2135 failed completely after one years use,the dealership replaced it which was great but disappointed it failed after just a year,they couldn't really tell me what went wrong with the machine just said it was an internal part needed replacing
Nowadays, the vast majority of legit battery powered lawn mowers have enough runtime to mow the size yard that is “push mower size”. So I’m not too concerned with battery life any more. For me, I want to make sure the lawn mower will last, that it has enough power, and that the self-propel is smooth and allows easy pushing forward and backward. My thoughts based on these mowers and the review: 1. Torque: I think the Milwaukee was underrated on this. It is by far the strongest battery powered mower, and stronger than the vast majority of gas powered mowers. I don’t care what Ego “says” its torque rating is, it is NOT stronger than the Milwaukee, as demonstrated by other tests and THIS test. The Milwaukee started off every time and NEVER bogged; the Ego bogged several times, actually shutting off, and had to be tilted back to start. Case closed. 2. Self propel: The Ego drive is notoriously “snatchy” when first engaged. It cannot be “feathered” on initial start; it is either “on” or “off”. This is bad. It jerks harshly when starting, and tears up grass. It is not easy to turn and engage. It cannot be slowed easily and intuitively when mowing. It is LOUD and sounds like my daughter’s toy Barbie Jeep. The Milwaukee, however, has a feature that should have been highlighted during the review. It is the MAIN reason I would choose the Milwaukee over the Ego. You set the max speed dial to the fastest you want to walk. The handlebar mounted “thumb/wrist” paddles then let you feather the speed on start, or whenever you would like to slow down. It is continuously variable from 0 to the max speed you dial up. It allows effortless and intuitive speed changes when starting, making turns, going around trees, hitting high grass, etc…. It can be used like I use my gas powered Honda lawn mower. Milwaukee has accomplished with direct electric control what Honda and Toro achieve with mechanical belt slip systems. It works great, and is the #1 reason to choose the Milwaukee over the Ego. The Milwaukee also allows effortless pushing, forward and backwards. This is required when getting into corners and around obstacles. I will not buy any mower that locks the rear wheels when trying to backup. If Ego ever gives us an intuitive way to change drive speed, and a way to feather the speed on takeoff or when making turns, I will consider it; if they fix the drive noise and locking on reverse, I will consider it harder. For now, the Milwaukee has the key features that are most important (to me). More demonstrated power, adequate runtime, great cut with only one blade to sharpen, and smooth, intuitive drive with effortless speed change and no locking up when pulling reverse. Also - a steel deck is inherently stronger and more resistant to cracking; it can also be repaired by simple welding.
I definitely like the instant full start up power of the Milwaukee versus the delayed power of the Ego. Milwaukee sacrifices the delayed stop to prolong the clutches where the Ego has a fast stop in the reverse order that I prefer.
Do you have any info on Wild Badger electric mower? Yard Brah was sent a Wild Badger mower and he is really impressed. He said it’s easier to handle and lightweight compared to his Ego mowers.
Hey now.. great comprehensive comparison. Getting my first mower and I'm trying to get lots of Information. It's getting harder to choose the more I watch though. I have a steep hill as the entire front of my lawn which complicates things.
@@TechMadeEzy thank you, i am looking at that or the LM2156SP. Thankfully you have just the right video for that. My lawn isn't very big. There's also a somewhat heavier Greenworks 80V 21" I'm considering.
The so called engaging of the motors on Ego mowers is a safety feature to stop the mower from rolling backward on hills when self propelled drive is stopped. Honda ICE self propelled mowers also have this same feature. It is easily defeated as you said by pushing forward a bit. When using the mower on level ground simply disengage the self propelled drive a bit early and allow the mower to coast slightly before making a turn or change in direction and this feature will never engage. It only takes a little while if use to get the hang of. I used Honda’s for years and was well aware of this and when I switched to Ego 5 years ago I was surprised it too had the feature. It can be a pain if you only have a level lawn but if you have any steep inclines you will very much appreciate it. I’m sure they include it to avoid liability though.
@@TechMadeEzy Perhaps it doesn’t happen every time because you aren’t self aware when using the mower that it needs to travel forward a bit to disengage the feature? Not sure about when not using self propelled as that’s interesting. I can tell you though that mine never does this unless I stop in a tight turn and have no room to roll forward. It would be nice if there was a defeat for us flatlanders! Have you tried Ego customer service? They’ve been helpful to me in the past.
If you know our channel, then you’re probably aware of how long we’ve been using Ego mowers. Calling ego will do nothing. It’s just the way their mower is designed and probably will never change.
When I first saw the video length I was thinking I can't possibly watch a lawn mower head-to-head that is as long as a movie. Well, I did. Good job! I was thinking how nice it would be to have a single ecosystem for tool batteries. However I now think the dividing line really is the physical battery size. I could get the Milwaukee mower, but those dual 12.0Ah batteries are too large for most of the tools in the Milwaukee M18 lineup. So I am fine with having large 56V EGO batteries for outdoor power equipment and smaller Milwaukee M18 for hand tools. (Their larger capacity M12 batteries are basically the physical size of the M18 batteries, so I don't really see the point of their M12 line and it complicates their ecosystem.) So that is two battery chargers in the garage and that is perfectly fine. Well, except that my Propella eBike has its own cylinder style lithium battery and charger. So three in all. That may be one too many.
Great vid! One thing with the warranty on the Milwaukee is that the brand is geared towards commercial contractors so the warranty is actually a 3yr commercial compared to ego which drops down to 1 and 2yrs for battery and mower.
Great review thanks! You should look into doing a review on Ego trimmers with Line IQ. I purchased the top of the like trimmer and found line IQ made it absolutely useless, even for a resi grade trimmer. So shocked that a good company like Ego would let this go to market.
Really nice review. One thing I didn't see on the wrap-up is how did those unprotected wires fare on the Milwaukee? Did the flap cover that area and protect from grass getting up into that area? Thanks for all you do for us.
I just got the lm2156sp. 10 amph battery and a “free” 5 amph I like it. Great cut quality Rear wheel drive seems stupid though. Years of lifting the front up to turn. I haven’t timed it but the 700watt charger seems to charge the batteries fast Just went all in on ego. Mower, chainsaw, blower. Free battery deals Can’t attest to durability but out of the gate I’m impressed Have a fuel Milwaukee blower to compare with. The EGO is much better. (Would like to say blows it away, but that’s too corny) I just don’t understand why they would make these mowers rear wheel drive. The ergonomics of front drive mowers just makes sense. Rear wheel drive is annoying. I’m a recent adopter and have had to remow a few spots where the front lifts on a slope. I’m just saying putting the drive up front should not be an issue with electric But on the whole I like it
Curious if you will be testing out the Ego commercial line mower? Would be interesting to do a side-by-side comparison of the consumer versus commercial Ego and any differences in the app unlocking additional features. I've had ego lawn mowers in the past and currently have the Milwaukee. Both build qualities are a little cheap IMO. I'm looking for higher end commercial grade even though Milwaukee does a very good job it could be better. The super high turbo mode of the ego to suck up the leaves is a nice feature as I still cannot get the electric lawn mowers to have the suction of the Honda gas power. Have to keep the Honda around just for the fall leaf cleanup.
@@curtisbme actually aluminum does not rust, it does oxidize and will form an oxidation layer but for a metal to rust, iron is needed and iron is not in aluminum
These units cost way too much and their replacement batteries are also super expensive. Not a good long term investment strategy for me. Ill take a super reliable Honda self propelled which is about 50% less to purchase instead.
@TechMadeEzy That would be a feature that should make its way down the whole line. I think most would pay a $50 premium to have that extra info on a display.
Does the CH700 charger that came with the new Ego mower connect to the internet? I know they used to be smart but there is no mention of that feature in the charger manual now and I noticed the 2nd CH700 on your app list doesn’t show the WiFi connect status. Great video as always!
Hi thanks maybe you missed it, I did show the charger and it being connected to WiFi, no Bluetooth just WiFi. There have been some challenges with many that own the 700w saying they couldn’t connect it to WiFi. Hope I answered your question buddy
10-4. Thought the charger demoed in this video may have been the 2021 version you did a dedicated video on. Guess I’m part of the many - will keep on trying.
I'm trying to hook my lawn mower Bluetooth app to my phone, but when I go into the ego connect app, it don't recognize my email address, therefore I can't long in to use Bluetooth on my mower. Can anyone help me out with this. By the way ,ego customer service wasn't much help with this. Thank you.
Doug sorry but ego support would be the only ones to help you if you are having an issue logging in. Did you register? You need to register with ego and create a login for it to work
Definitely not an electrical expert but keep in mind the 10ah is on the 56v platform so that probably makes a difference also 2 x m18 batteries are 432wh And 1 10ah 560wh So as you could see the ego battery has more battery capacity
Power is watts. Volts times amps. 56/18 =3.1. 56x10=560. 2x(18x12)=432. I’m not sure if ego uses nominal like Milwaukee does so might be more like 540 to 432 But the 10 amph ego has over 1.25 time the watts of 2 M18 12 amph batteries Had to edit. The 2 in the 1.25 times didn’t make it the 1st time. Big difference between 25% and 50% more. But still more
Milwaukee exhaust cover does not close air tight because you may not want to "side discharge". If you do not put the mulching plug, or the side discharge, it will simply discharge to the back. Which I actually prefer to the side discharge. The gap is "By Design". Like a Honda mower. I use the side discharge only when it rains, or the grass is VERY high. In the end, "grass leakage" is absolutely unimportant. My recommendation to everyone ... Don't be cheap, buy a secondary battery, and be in turbo mode all of the time. I would use "Auto" mode only with the side discharge., Milwaukee's stopping delay is to allow the deck to fully empty so that when you restart, it is not gonna jam. Or. To avoid patch of un-mulch grass. After 3 years, my Milwaukee bag needs repair. Another of those things I never experience in decades with Honda.
Excellent review. Converted to Ego blower, edger, trimmer, hedger recently after my gas powered trimmer died. Very pleased with the transition and now closely following their mower reviews. I wonder how these hold up - what's the oldest one out there? Paid $219 for my Craftsman in 2002 and it still cranks on the first pull. Hard to come to grips with a thousand more for something that's guaranteed for 5 years. Mower aside, I'd expect the battery to not last (with any reasonable endurance) longer than that. For what it costs to replace the battery I could buy TWO current-model Craftsman mowers.
This is the most expensive Ego model. You can upgrade to lower priced models for much less. My mower was only $450 but it's not self propelled and came with 5ah battery. All of Egos current model lawn mowers come with at least a 6ah battery. They're all guaranteed for 5 years. Mine is 8 years old. I've seen mowers go on sale for $649 with 7.5ah batteries and self propelled. Also if your blower tool has a battery, that can be used as a spare for the mower. Any battery can be used but I can say the 2.5ah battery just doesn't have enough power for the mower.
Both insanely expensive. I wish there was smaller models 17" since I don't need a large mower but I also own milwaukee tools. I prefer the ego controls and tech though. I don't know if I should go milwaukee so I can get the edger and trimmer... Waiting for a discount or promo before pulling the trigger.
Awesome content…. I don’t like your videos enough. I’ll be better. I’m jealous of all your kit especially the stacktech stuff. I watched your videos and bought a bunch!!! Hunting for that hand truck cart for a few months now!!!!! I’ll get it one day!!!
Many have complained about the Milwaukee blade motor's plastic housing -the black bulge to which the blade connects. They say that when you hit a hard object, the housing breaks off and can not be repaired. Is the EGO blade motor housing made of plastic or metal?
Appreciate the thorough review! I was looking to get the Ego until I heard the drive squeal on multiple review videos. It's louder than the blades! Sounds like a kids toy! Ego build quality looks good. Power specs sound good. Ego always seems to gets it to the 1 yard line then fumbles the ball. The drive squeal is a deal breaker for me. Thanks for the video and keep up the great content!
Thanks Mike
what did u get
Nothing yet. Sticking with my gas sr4 toro super recycler. 15+/- years old
@@515Mike - I’ve had an EGO for 4 years now. I think you’re being short sighted. Mine performs every bit as good as my previous gas powered mover. Not only is it might quieter, but you don’t have to deal with gas, spark plugs, and it folds up to a compact footprint. I’ve never experienced any “squeal” with the assist drive and I use it frequently. Try talking to people who actually own an EGO vs making a decision based on a couple of videos you watched. I’ve been nothing but extremely satisfied with mine.
Al, great review👍 I still don't understand how they say you get a 22" cut with a 21" blade🤔 I'd be interested to know, after you've mowed with the EGO for a while , if you think the extra weight improves the cut.. Have a terrific weekend..
Thanks Frank in time I will share more thoughts for sure
Ego seem to be iterating fast; I'd like to see Milwaukee update this thing.
Outstanding and very detailed review. Having the Milwaukee myself i agree to all your points. I had a friend on IG from the UK send me an upgraded mulch plug which works much better. My guess is they are aware of the leak issue but not available in the US which doesnt make sense. I dont mulch much so not a super big deal but unexceptable for a mower that expensive. The one thing i absolutely like the best is how smooth the drive system is. Variable speed control allows you to feather the speed no matter the speed settimg exactly like a Honda HRX. Silky smooth. The Ego looks very solid. My one wish for milwaukee is to have a dual blade vs. single. Thanks for sharing this video as i could only imagine the time and effort it took to make. 💯👍
Thanks bro 👍🏼
Milwaukee LEDs are actually VERY good. It works surprisingly well.
The EGO is the best bagging mower I’ve ever used!
I was on the fence to go into a battery lawnmower, I’m in the mid 40’s and my13yr push 140cc Troy-built was giving me issues, which could probably resolve if I repaired. After watching tons and tons of a of videos old and recent of ego, Ryobi, and Milwaukee, decided to buy the M18 one. I just picked up today and used for the first time. I live in FL which St. Augustine grass is very thick, I very picky and maintain my lawn at the time, but this time I had way overgrown grass, like 3-4 week, and that in FL during the summer is a pain to cut. Approximately 6k-7k square feet. Man let me tell you, where my old mover kept bugging down in a situation like this, this M18 beast didn’t skip a bit. It never stopped, bugged down, nothing. I always mulch, so I did with this one. Settings: height 3”, self-propelled speed 3, always turbo mode, and mulching. Did all my lawn and still had 2 bars left of battery. I’m far impressed with this beast.
I made the mistake to cut my lawn around 1pm FL time, where is it hot as heck. Never saw any overheating on the machine, batteries or any issues because of that. Also as you said, never had an issue with looking at the battery gauge, very bright and easy to read.
Observation: that I have seen on this video and others the m18 machine mulching plug leaking, I didn’t experience this. Never had leaks and the machine performed like a champ. Grass clippings are supper fine and again was mulching and cutting and very high and overgrown grass, the backyard most of all was cutting way more than 6”, with no need to overpass.
I was also thinking about the Ego LM2206SP, which you have on the video, since it has good power and it's aluminum deck, but Jesus, that high pitch from the self prop, you can even hear that all the time more than the actual blades cutting, very uncomfortable. I looked at LM2156SP or 2135, to light, tested them at store, seems to light in the front, and the all plastic doesn't bring confidence IMO. On the M18, you almost don't hear the self prop at all. Going backwards, wheels don't get stock, and you don't hear the self prop motor, it moves freely if you don't use self prop. The machine is heavy, like a gas one. For the deck, as long as you clean the deck every time, just with a towel and use a blower, it should last a very, very long time.
Best of all, the storage, take out batteries, put it upright position and that's it. No more dealing with gas, fumes, gas smell or leaks in the garage, oil, etc. For me, this was more about convenience and get to cut fast and do it faster without struggles. A convenience you will get with any electric mower.
M18 is not cheap, that's true, same at the ago, and maybe for someone that cuts their lawn and maintains it every week or so, I'll say this could be overkill, but if you skip a couple of weeks, be certain the M18 is a beast, something else and for someone on the M18 platform already, this will be a no-brainer just because of the batteries. My neighbors both have Toro and Honda, and their machine bug down and struggle while cutting grass the way I did today.
I still need to test when is darker, to test while adding lights, and see how much battery will last with that.
Finally, before someone else comments, I'm not a fanboy, this is actually my second Milwaukee tool. I have a very old first gen M12 1/2 stubby, and a Kobalt XTR Impact Driver, that's as much as power tools I have.
My trimmer, blower, chainsaw are still gas, still using 13yr Ryobi expand it system. I have plans to change those to battery soon, and probably will go with M18, for convenience.
From initial experience, on the M18 machine I’m blown away, note I didn't have any other electric mower before, I just wanted something that could perform or be one of the best. The m18 is a beast of a lawnmower.
This and your videos were one of the few that helped me with my decision. Thanks and Great video.
What an incredible overview. I wish you had gotten the ego to drag when pulling back to illustrate what happens and why it happens.
Thank you and if you’ve experienced it, then you know it doesn’t happen all the time, but everyone continues to say it’s a feature of the Mower but if it was, it should happen all the time and it doesn’t. I think the thing that really bothers me is when I’m not using self-propel and it happens, that is really weird
Milwaukee wheels are VERY good. Even if it is a VERY heavy mower, it is relatively easy to push it. Bearing + large wheels size. I use self propel only on slopes or to accelerate the mower. Once at speed, I do not use it anymore. If the EGO is not free-wheeling backward, even only 30% of the time, THAT is a deal breaker to me.
M18 ecosystem, lower/less annoying propel whine, free moving wheels when unpropelled, different power modes, and smaller batteries is why I chose the milwaukee mower for my 1/2~ acre yard. If you need big ego batteries for the riding mowers, blowers, chainsaws, inverters, or not in the milwaukee 18v/makita 18v/40v line, then an OPE focused brand would be a good choice for a lot of homeowners. I only need four 8 ah batteries to trim and mow my whole yard. I don't want 7.5ah+ 56v batteries sitting for 6~ months of the year. The amount of use from each m18 battery compared to the 4x~ a month used 56v/60v batteries for a small home owner should be greatly considered.
Though I will say to wait for a gen 2 milwaukee mower if you are not in the ecosystem. Great video TME!
Thank
I know this isn’t an apples to apples comparison but ego is about to release a commercial 22” with over 14 f/lbs of torque, almost silent self propel because it’s brushless (they cheaper out in this model) and it holds 2 batteries
When is gen2 expected?
@@kelkev85 The Commercial self propelled is silent but not because it's brushless. Both aluminum deck mowers have brushless motors.
Great breakdown, I just don’t see a bonus have your lawnmower connected to your phone unless you are going to program it to self mow your lawn. 👍🏻✌🏻
Thank you and I agree
Great in-depth video. I could listen to you all day, your voice has an Alan Alda vibe.
Thanks so much
if you call ego they will send you a side discharge chute and a high lift blade they sent it out to me and I received them both 10 days after calling them and I didn't get charged anything which is good but I believe the extra blade and side discharge chute should come with a $1200 mower but its worth every penny and thank you for you videos.
Thanks bro
I run the Ego at work for our site, I am very happy at its cut and performance, beats down gas mowers on performance easy.
These are nice but over priced... I would take the new GreenWorks 22 for $599 any day of the week over these... Even the old GreenWorks 60v 21 was/still is a great mower!
Greenworks 60v has been taking ego to the cleaners lately.
You will find this interesting! If you go to home depots one star reviews of the milwaukee mower you will see that quite a few users have shown pictures of the mower blade houseing snapping off when the mower comes into contact with foreign objects in the yard because it is all plastic making the mower unreparable and useless. A serious fatal flaw!
Ouch
Exactly although I really want this mower those reviews are deal breaking for me. It's been 3 years they definitely need a second gen of this Milwaukee.
The Milwaukee is plastic, not aluminum?
@andrewpayne6295 if you watch the video, I do close-up showing you that the deck is steel, but there are parts of the mower that are plastic
@@TechMadeEzy ok. Thank you. I'm not terribly far into the video. This video and comment just saved me $1,100.
Appreciate your content. Simple, fair head to head comparison with very little bias.
I have extensive experience with both Ego and Milwaukee ope having run both commercially. For a home owner I would recommend both. For commercial users I would lean heavily towards The Milwaukee system due to battery durability and tool weight with larger batteries.
I stayed a way from Ego mowers due to the plastic construction and dual blades but have probably thousands of hours on their other tools......introduced me to battery ope tools. Their batteries really are their weak point commercially with most failing within two years plus they are heavy.
The Milwaukee mowers weak spots are poor rear flap design, less than ideal weight balance when bagging and the lack of a true high lift blade. I haven't experienced the mulch plug issue. Big plus of the mower is speed....everywhere.
Thanks for the content.
Thank you
I bought 2 of the brand new Egos 22 inch and returned them. They both had 1 wheel that spins freely, it also sits highER than the other one (front)
After shopping and shopping it was best to try #3 by Ego. It also has the SAME PROBLEM!
Has anyone else noticed?
I emailed them the video after calling them. Tomorrow will be day 3 no RESPONSE BACK.
Why did I pick Ego again? I just didn't want to wait TWO HOURS for the Milwaukee battery to charge. That's ridiculous!
So, I only used the Ego because it is new and came not fully charged for maybe 10 minutes. It seemed to chew right through everything at ease!
Milwaukee all the way !
Milwaukee cut height adjustment will fail if it "hits" anything. Cedars, fence, or whatever. Then you cut a notch or two lower and notice it only minutes later. I HATE single lever. No professionals like it.
Hey hey my friend, I really wish the EGO company would just sponsor you and let you do free rain of the equipment and products they sell, i think the ego mower is my favorite so far, i think the Milwaukee mower is cool too, both mowers seem to have serious power and i think the placement of the ego headlights is much more better than the Milwaukee mower and i think that ego has a bunch of different choices as where the Milwaukee just has the one variant as of now, as always, I enough the thoroughness of the video as always and keep on making wonderful videos my friend
Thanks Alex and it’s all good.
Ego all the way. I have both platforms and I use Ego commercially and it'll take a second gen Milwaukee mower for me to switch.
Ego's handle may be easier to work, but the internal wiring is a big con as its one of the common fails that I see reported.
Interesting this Mower just launched. I haven’t seen anything about that but thank you for sharing.
@@TechMadeEzy its the way they've built them all. there are switches in the handles to detect that you've extended them and the wiring is internal, which is great in concept, but they've had issues with the switches failing or wires getting pinched and the mower won't run. the external wires and no switches on the other brands seems to work fine. I haven't tried my Makita mower to see if it can start while folded, which is what Ego is trying to prevent.
My ego lm 2135 failed completely after one years use,the dealership replaced it which was great but disappointed it failed after just a year,they couldn't really tell me what went wrong with the machine just said it was an internal part needed replacing
@eddiecotter7201 that stinks but glad it was taken care of
Nowadays, the vast majority of legit battery powered lawn mowers have enough runtime to mow the size yard that is “push mower size”. So I’m not too concerned with battery life any more.
For me, I want to make sure the lawn mower will last, that it has enough power, and that the self-propel is smooth and allows easy pushing forward and backward.
My thoughts based on these mowers and the review:
1. Torque: I think the Milwaukee was underrated on this. It is by far the strongest battery powered mower, and stronger than the vast majority of gas powered mowers. I don’t care what Ego “says” its torque rating is, it is NOT stronger than the Milwaukee, as demonstrated by other tests and THIS test. The Milwaukee started off every time and NEVER bogged; the Ego bogged several times, actually shutting off, and had to be tilted back to start. Case closed.
2. Self propel: The Ego drive is notoriously “snatchy” when first engaged. It cannot be “feathered” on initial start; it is either “on” or “off”. This is bad. It jerks harshly when starting, and tears up grass. It is not easy to turn and engage. It cannot be slowed easily and intuitively when mowing. It is LOUD and sounds like my daughter’s toy Barbie Jeep.
The Milwaukee, however, has a feature that should have been highlighted during the review. It is the MAIN reason I would choose the Milwaukee over the Ego. You set the max speed dial to the fastest you want to walk. The handlebar mounted “thumb/wrist” paddles then let you feather the speed on start, or whenever you would like to slow down. It is continuously variable from 0 to the max speed you dial up. It allows effortless and intuitive speed changes when starting, making turns, going around trees, hitting high grass, etc…. It can be used like I use my gas powered Honda lawn mower. Milwaukee has accomplished with direct electric control what Honda and Toro achieve with mechanical belt slip systems. It works great, and is the #1 reason to choose the Milwaukee over the Ego. The Milwaukee also allows effortless pushing, forward and backwards. This is required when getting into corners and around obstacles. I will not buy any mower that locks the rear wheels when trying to backup.
If Ego ever gives us an intuitive way to change drive speed, and a way to feather the speed on takeoff or when making turns, I will consider it; if they fix the drive noise and locking on reverse, I will consider it harder.
For now, the Milwaukee has the key features that are most important (to me). More demonstrated power, adequate runtime, great cut with only one blade to sharpen, and smooth, intuitive drive with effortless speed change and no locking up when pulling reverse.
Also - a steel deck is inherently stronger and more resistant to cracking; it can also be repaired by simple welding.
I definitely like the instant full start up power of the Milwaukee versus the delayed power of the Ego. Milwaukee sacrifices the delayed stop to prolong the clutches where the Ego has a fast stop in the reverse order that I prefer.
I hope you watch the full video there was some surprising things that happened
Milwaukee steel deck rust within the first season. Bugger. I had two Hondas for decades without any deck issues.
Wouldnt the Milwaukee be a 40v system if you were to usevthe same metric as the Ego?
Do you have any info on
Wild Badger electric mower?
Yard Brah was sent a Wild Badger mower and he is really impressed.
He said it’s easier to handle and lightweight compared to his Ego mowers.
Hey now.. great comprehensive comparison. Getting my first mower and I'm trying to get lots of Information. It's getting harder to choose the more I watch though. I have a steep hill as the entire front of my lawn which complicates things.
Try to get something that's not so heavy steel and aluminum decks are definitely heavier you might want to take a look at the EGO LM2135sp
@@TechMadeEzy thank you, i am looking at that or the LM2156SP. Thankfully you have just the right video for that. My lawn isn't very big. There's also a somewhat heavier Greenworks 80V 21" I'm considering.
What are the storage sizes when standing on end against a wall? Specifically on the Milwaulkee.
The so called engaging of the motors on Ego mowers is a safety feature to stop the mower from rolling backward on hills when self propelled drive is stopped. Honda ICE self propelled mowers also have this same feature. It is easily defeated as you said by pushing forward a bit. When using the mower on level ground simply disengage the self propelled drive a bit early and allow the mower to coast slightly before making a turn or change in direction and this feature will never engage. It only takes a little while if use to get the hang of. I used Honda’s for years and was well aware of this and when I switched to Ego 5 years ago I was surprised it too had the feature. It can be a pain if you only have a level lawn but if you have any steep inclines you will very much appreciate it. I’m sure they include it to avoid liability though.
Why doesn’t it happen 100% of the time? It happens every so often even with self propel off.
@@TechMadeEzy Perhaps it doesn’t happen every time because you aren’t self aware when using the mower that it needs to travel forward a bit to disengage the feature? Not sure about when not using self propelled as that’s interesting. I can tell you though that mine never does this unless I stop in a tight turn and have no room to roll forward. It would be nice if there was a defeat for us flatlanders! Have you tried Ego customer service? They’ve been helpful to me in the past.
If you know our channel, then you’re probably aware of how long we’ve been using Ego mowers. Calling ego will do nothing. It’s just the way their mower is designed and probably will never change.
When I first saw the video length I was thinking I can't possibly watch a lawn mower head-to-head that is as long as a movie. Well, I did. Good job! I was thinking how nice it would be to have a single ecosystem for tool batteries. However I now think the dividing line really is the physical battery size. I could get the Milwaukee mower, but those dual 12.0Ah batteries are too large for most of the tools in the Milwaukee M18 lineup. So I am fine with having large 56V EGO batteries for outdoor power equipment and smaller Milwaukee M18 for hand tools. (Their larger capacity M12 batteries are basically the physical size of the M18 batteries, so I don't really see the point of their M12 line and it complicates their ecosystem.) So that is two battery chargers in the garage and that is perfectly fine. Well, except that my Propella eBike has its own cylinder style lithium battery and charger. So three in all. That may be one too many.
Jamie thanks for watching the video. I’m glad the timestamps hopefully helped you and I hope the information helped you in someway. Thank you so much.
Your lawn looks great. Quick question, did you cut your lawn and bag it with the mulching blade on your Ego2135 instead of using the highlift blade?
I've been using the new LM2206sp
Great vid! One thing with the warranty on the Milwaukee is that the brand is geared towards commercial contractors so the warranty is actually a 3yr commercial compared to ego which drops down to 1 and 2yrs for battery and mower.
Thanks that's good to know, it's important for residential users for sure 3 vs 5 but again thanks
Ego told me 5 years
Ego is 5yr on mower 3yrs on battery I just read
@jaimo929 5yr on 10ah and 12ah if you register
Just got into the ego lines with blower trimmer combo on sale few weeks ago!!!
Nice 👍🏼
Great review thanks! You should look into doing a review on Ego trimmers with Line IQ. I purchased the top of the like trimmer and found line IQ made it absolutely useless, even for a resi grade trimmer. So shocked that a good company like Ego would let this go to market.
Thanks
Really nice review. One thing I didn't see on the wrap-up is how did those unprotected wires fare on the Milwaukee? Did the flap cover that area and protect from grass getting up into that area? Thanks for all you do for us.
Thanks Mike my goal is to provide information and allow people to make their decisions I'm glad you like the review
Great review
Thank you so much
I just got the lm2156sp. 10 amph battery and a “free” 5 amph
I like it. Great cut quality
Rear wheel drive seems stupid though. Years of lifting the front up to turn.
I haven’t timed it but the 700watt charger seems to charge the batteries fast
Just went all in on ego. Mower, chainsaw, blower. Free battery deals
Can’t attest to durability but out of the gate I’m impressed
Have a fuel Milwaukee blower to compare with. The EGO is much better. (Would like to say blows it away, but that’s too corny)
I just don’t understand why they would make these mowers rear wheel drive. The ergonomics of front drive mowers just makes sense. Rear wheel drive is annoying. I’m a recent adopter and have had to remow a few spots where the front lifts on a slope. I’m just saying putting the drive up front should not be an issue with electric
But on the whole I like it
One of my favorite mowers 2156
RWD is way better than FWD for hills. FWD is only good to keep the wheels going while turning. Very minor con Vs the pros of RWD
I got the Ego one, did my first mow with it and quite impressed.
Nice
Curious if you will be testing out the Ego commercial line mower? Would be interesting to do a side-by-side comparison of the consumer versus commercial Ego and any differences in the app unlocking additional features. I've had ego lawn mowers in the past and currently have the Milwaukee. Both build qualities are a little cheap IMO. I'm looking for higher end commercial grade even though Milwaukee does a very good job it could be better. The super high turbo mode of the ego to suck up the leaves is a nice feature as I still cannot get the electric lawn mowers to have the suction of the Honda gas power. Have to keep the Honda around just for the fall leaf cleanup.
Can you test the lmx5300sp commercial ego mower?
I wish, just don’t have the funds after purchasing the ego bike and the new mower, pressure washer and new vac. If anything changes I will try buddy
I'm surprised you'r not sponsored yet
How is the sturdiness of the handle connection when lifting front wheels to turn?
Both are fine for that
aluminum doesnt rust. steel does
Yup 👍🏼
@@TechMadeEzy do u think the acidicy of the gras can still corrode alumniumu tho?
@randomrazr I do not know
Umm. Actually... It does rust, just the rust layer helps to protect it.
@@curtisbme actually aluminum does not rust, it does oxidize and will form an oxidation layer but for a metal to rust, iron is needed and iron is not in aluminum
Some of your stuff does get repetitive, but your channel is Highly under-rated.
That's like a smack in the face and then a handshake afterwards. 😎
@@TechMadeEzy well, you're welcome for both! Lol.😂
I need a beer
These units cost way too much and their replacement batteries are also super expensive. Not a good long term investment strategy for me. Ill take a super reliable Honda self propelled which is about 50% less to purchase instead.
Do Ego have Electric Scarifier + Lawn Dethatcher? I have EGO 3 ego products for lawn care, need to buy a dethatcher...
Great content. Thank you as always. 👍👍
Big thanks bro
Even though I'm not in the market for one, I'm glad Ego ditched the Speed IQ system. Definitely a bad answer to a question nobody asked.
We did a video on this issue early on definitely killed that Mower, but I do love the screen on that mower and how it shows the battery percentage
@TechMadeEzy That would be a feature that should make its way down the whole line. I think most would pay a $50 premium to have that extra info on a display.
That’s why I was shocked when the new More came out this year with the aluminum deck, but they didn’t include that feature
Does the CH700 charger that came with the new Ego mower connect to the internet?
I know they used to be smart but there is no mention of that feature in the charger manual now and I noticed the 2nd CH700 on your app list doesn’t show the WiFi connect status.
Great video as always!
Hi thanks maybe you missed it, I did show the charger and it being connected to WiFi, no Bluetooth just WiFi. There have been some challenges with many that own the 700w saying they couldn’t connect it to WiFi. Hope I answered your question buddy
10-4. Thought the charger demoed in this video may have been the 2021 version you did a dedicated video on. Guess I’m part of the many - will keep on trying.
@Tgood1413 we had an issue connecting ours and ego replaced it a while back.
I'm trying to hook my lawn mower Bluetooth app to my phone, but when I go into the ego connect app, it don't recognize my email address, therefore I can't long in to use Bluetooth on my mower. Can anyone help me out with this.
By the way ,ego customer service wasn't much help with this.
Thank you.
Doug sorry but ego support would be the only ones to help you if you are having an issue logging in. Did you register? You need to register with ego and create a login for it to work
I know they are different voltages but wonder why 1 10 amp hour outlasts 2 12 amp hour batteries?
Definitely not an electrical expert but keep in mind the 10ah is on the 56v platform so that probably makes a difference also
2 x m18 batteries are 432wh
And 1 10ah 560wh
So as you could see the ego battery has more battery capacity
The motor will pull whatever power it needs. The more efficient the motor, the more run time you'll get on whatever battery is being used.
Power is watts. Volts times amps. 56/18 =3.1. 56x10=560. 2x(18x12)=432.
I’m not sure if ego uses nominal like Milwaukee does so might be more like 540 to 432
But the 10 amph ego has over 1.25 time the watts of 2 M18 12 amph batteries
Had to edit. The 2 in the 1.25 times didn’t make it the 1st time. Big difference between 25% and 50% more. But still more
Watt hours = Voltage x Amp Hour
Do the math :/
Milwaukee exhaust cover does not close air tight because you may not want to "side discharge". If you do not put the mulching plug, or the side discharge, it will simply discharge to the back. Which I actually prefer to the side discharge. The gap is "By Design". Like a Honda mower. I use the side discharge only when it rains, or the grass is VERY high. In the end, "grass leakage" is absolutely unimportant. My recommendation to everyone ... Don't be cheap, buy a secondary battery, and be in turbo mode all of the time. I would use "Auto" mode only with the side discharge., Milwaukee's stopping delay is to allow the deck to fully empty so that when you restart, it is not gonna jam. Or. To avoid patch of un-mulch grass. After 3 years, my Milwaukee bag needs repair. Another of those things I never experience in decades with Honda.
Excellent review. Converted to Ego blower, edger, trimmer, hedger recently after my gas powered trimmer died. Very pleased with the transition and now closely following their mower reviews. I wonder how these hold up - what's the oldest one out there? Paid $219 for my Craftsman in 2002 and it still cranks on the first pull. Hard to come to grips with a thousand more for something that's guaranteed for 5 years. Mower aside, I'd expect the battery to not last (with any reasonable endurance) longer than that. For what it costs to replace the battery I could buy TWO current-model Craftsman mowers.
Thanks
This is the most expensive Ego model. You can upgrade to lower priced models for much less. My mower was only $450 but it's not self propelled and came with 5ah battery. All of Egos current model lawn mowers come with at least a 6ah battery. They're all guaranteed for 5 years. Mine is 8 years old.
I've seen mowers go on sale for $649 with 7.5ah batteries and self propelled. Also if your blower tool has a battery, that can be used as a spare for the mower. Any battery can be used but I can say the 2.5ah battery just doesn't have enough power for the mower.
Very detailed, I like it!
Thanks
Ohh those edges though look rough. Otherwise both mowers look nice.
Hey hey, I don't have time for everything. If only you had a hint at my life and all the things I have plus a full-time job, then maybe
Both insanely expensive. I wish there was smaller models 17" since I don't need a large mower but I also own milwaukee tools. I prefer the ego controls and tech though. I don't know if I should go milwaukee so I can get the edger and trimmer... Waiting for a discount or promo before pulling the trigger.
dewalt mower?
There is a smaller 19 inch Milwaukee mower here in Australia.
@ecp4500 that’s good to hear not everybody wants such a big heavy mower
There is a smaller Milwaukee here in Ireland that is 46cm or around 18 inches,I would presume they are in USA too as that's where Milwaukee is based
Awesome content…. I don’t like your videos enough. I’ll be better.
I’m jealous of all your kit especially the stacktech stuff. I watched your videos and bought a bunch!!! Hunting for that hand truck cart for a few months now!!!!! I’ll get it one day!!!
Thanks buddy I'd appreciate that 💪🏼
I've been waiting for this head to head. Ego is on sale right now at Lowes for $839.00 with battery and charger.... crazy!
Well, I hope the video helped you and by the way what model you were referring to that’s on sale what’s the model number?
@@TechMadeEzy EGO POWER+ 56-volt 22-in Cordless Self-propelled Lawn Mower 56 Ah (1-Battery and Charger Included)
Item #5608281 Model #LM2206SP
@@TechMadeEzy No idea what he is looking at but it isn't the one you just reviewed. That is still $1,200.