How To Convert Standing Pilot to Spark Electronic Ignition System with Honeywell Retrofit Kit
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- Опубліковано 12 лис 2022
- Got an older gas fired boiler with a constant 24/7 standing pilot and want to save some money? Consider having the Honeywell Intermittent Ignition System installed. During this educational how to video, we converted the gas control system from a standing pilot to intermittent spark ignition.
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Words cannot describe how much I love this channel! Mikey you’ve been a great role model for me on my hvac journey!
Love those conversion kits.. I installed six of them in a furniture warehouse on there hanging unit heaters...they are about 30 feet in the air and whenever they opened the roll up door it would blow out the pilot on 2 of them... Converted them and no problems since.
As a tech in the field I've always wanted to know the proper way to do this. Thanks Mikey.
I never knew why they called it roll out and spill switch until now Thank you MP
When Mikey pipes thinks the price is too much, that’s when you know it’s too much.😂
Great job Mike and Peter, Peter is getting better and better, Steve does his best, he's been at this for a long time and doesn't have a lot of patience, You got the chance to get better while you were young, but I don't know everything, and don't take it as an insult, but you did a good job converting the boiler.
Great video Mike. As always, educating us average Joe's. I am reminded of Sy Syms (Seymour Merinsky R.I.P 2009) when he always said; "An educated consumer is our best customer". Good luck to you and your team in all future endeavors. Cheers.
Technology is taking over every industries, i always like the new challenge
Love the intro! You handled that L better than I expected however... You are busy controlling the controllables. Great vid!
One word: Excelsior!!
Thank you for the information 🙏🏼 I appreciate your time
Nice Mike- Very professional install and great customer relations ...
Died at the Steve Lav mention at the end. Love both channels. Keep putting out the great content
It’s pretty clear that Steve Lav doesn’t care for Mikey. I guess Mikey was trolling Steve’s videos. Steve has the most entertaining plumbing and HVAC videos so I suppose that’s why he has more subscribers.
Thank!! Mikey 👍🏻
I,m Kind of surprised the conversion kit did not include a Q345 A spark pilot....I didn't know the part number I went to look at one to get the part number for this response . Im good but I'm not that good 🤣 but I imagine it was cheap for Honeywell to include the parts they did for Spark ... great Job as Usual ... Your Policies are Great ... keeps the Customer Safe& Protected , Keeps You and your Name Protected.. and good for equipment ... again Nice Job Have a Nice Sunday Brother
Great vid Mike! As someone else mentioned, the old gas valve is a step opening valve, the valve that comes with the kit is a standard opening valve. While it will run the same, it’s opening character is different. Burnham specs the step opening valve to establish some draft through the boiler before full flame operation. Your light off did look fine, and I commend your thoughness with the combustion test; I only mention it because you are so thoughrow. I have seen contractors in court due to modification of an appliance, it’s not a great time. Again, not knocking you, just some people are not aware of the legality in our overly litigious society these days! Keep up the great work my friend
3:45
Mv/Pv is common for the two coils inside the gas valve
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content starts @6:50 . you're welcome.
Got those jumbo cans of Kroil now! 👍👍 BTW Mikey, here in South Jersey my service plan is $500+ a year, but it covers my gas furnace, air conditioner, electronic air cleaner, thermostat, Steam humidifier, and my direct vent water heater (but not the tank). 2 services a year, priority calls, 50% discount on all parts, and yes, a combustion test with a Testo.
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Get that Money, Peter!😂. Great job as always, Mikey👍. (Teeep, teeep)
Ty for the awesome vid! Question, what would be the cause of the flame tubes turning that color? Roll out? burners did look dusty, peter did a good job cleaning them out!
Excellent video Mikey. Nice work by Peter and you. He is lucky to have you as his mentor. I wanted to better understand the value of this upgrade. I realize it eliminates the thermocouple and saves gas as you no longer have a standing pilot. Are there other reasons or savings? How long do these new units last for? Thanks.
Looks like you just got a loyal life time customer! Other guy got way too greedy!
I really like the way your teaching your apprentices
I'm learning so much for this education thank you .
Peter will learn a lot from you. 🤠
get that 💰💰💰 peter
Hey Mike, I’m the homeowner on this job in Merrick.
Question: is there a problem with the flue switch?
You mentioned that it should be closed when the boiler is off? Should that have been checked for proper operation? Also, on the hole you drilled for the combustion test, doesn’t that need to be plugged? Thanks for advising? Love the channel, and appreciate your professionalism. Thanks
I noticed LWCO was on the return, is that something you see alot rather than on the boiler it self
Isn't the original gas valve for that boiler a step gas valve and the one that comes with the conversion kit a fast open valve? Does that cause a problem?
Hey guys
what about the stack vent?
Mike does it really save you all that much money switching from standing pilot to electronic ignition? I have a standing pilot furnace and was wondering if converting would save anything. I did a test years ago and cut off the gas to the furnace in the summer and my bill barely went down...and yes I'm a hvac tech so I could do this to my furnace...but only if it would save a lot. Another good thing is it would limit the chances of burning a hole In the metal going to HX from having a constant flame on!
Not sure if you answer questions but if so, I’m no boiler expert with that being said . I had to install a boiler & it ran fine for about a month & when the temps dropped for some reason the transformer keeps burning up/ blowing on the 24 volt side. My boss seems to think it’s the way the zoning is wired but like I said b4 it was all working until the temp dropped. Is this something u might have came across b4. It’s only 2 zones & they are on a separate transformer that’s transformer is fine it’s the transformer for the control board.
Nice work Mike! I am from Da Boogie Down but I have a house up in Saratoga, NY that I will need to do this. I have an 80% Bryant hot air heat exchanger furnace with a pilot light. That damn thing is kicking ever since 1994 but I sometimes find myself having to take that 3 hr trip in the dead of winter to light that pilot light. I replace the thermocouple every October. So it's not the thermocouple. This only happens on high wind days/nights. What would you recommend for the replacement valve and retrofit kit?
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How come the is not a hole from the manufacturer for your flue gas analysis as standard?
will this conversion kits work on older 1983 peerless gas boiler?
Great video Mike! What’s your thought on covering an outside condenser? I’ve covered mine for years, but noticed you’ve never mentioned them.
A good spot for mice nests
Only cover it if you have lots of trees over hanging your condenser. Do not cover a heat pump. This will help keep the inside clean, a lot of my customers callback if you don’t get every leaf from around the compressor.
Mikey I like your channel I noticed the gas line has black iron pipe and galvanized above our code does not allow galvanized use for gas only black iron we must replace any galvanized pipe or can not run the unit
@@PipeDoctor thanks for your response here in Illinois you can't use galv and and you
Can't use copper it was banned. We have strict guidelines. Thank you
You can test in the draft hood. Also you have dont that many times lol
Is there such a pilot light to electronic ignition conversion kit for a gas furnace in a home HVAC system? I have a 1979 Tappan system with a White Rodgers gas valve which looks much like the gas valve you replaced. I can find and give you more details, model/part numbers, if such a thing exists. Thanks, Mikey.
Mikey pipes question? What do you think dollar wise does it cost in gas to keep pilot flame on every month?
a buck 3 fifty
I had a heating company come out to check my gas fired furnace and I asked if he was going to do a combustion test and he said what for. I guess next time I call someone I will ask upfront about the test. By the way, I like Molly the dog...
I'm looking for the Link for the electronic Kit.😮 Where is it??
Why do i not have power when im hooking the wires up is this setup only for boilers or should it work in a regular house trailer furnace
Maybe your furnace wants to go on a power trip! But in all seriousness, it's important to make sure your wiring is correct and compatible with your furnace.
How much money does it save?
What was the outcome on the motorized damper valve?
Bummer, I wanted it all to be right? I’m the owner of this home.
@@PipeDoctor Sending you email
Great video but this upgrade will only pay for itself if that boiler lasts 20 more years. Thanks for sharing.
@@PipeDoctor I don't blame you. I would take his money to.
What price?
I had a electronic ignition that keep ticking I got tired of it and I had to put a regular pilot which the guy had told me works even better because during the summer months it keeps the humidity dry inside the boiler is that true
I have a Burnham 204 that Burnham or anyone else will not convert from NG to LP because of 2012 regulations. Now I know it's because of the standing pilot. Is there any reason I couldn't convert both gas and pilot?
Supper useful video!
That tiny flame can dry the whole iron heat exchanger? 😂 What eventually solved the humidity issue for me is the dehumidifier I put in my basement.
Doc they dont paid enough money in the South for plumber from ny
Doc l was in the south Orlando Florida .l am back in NY because they don't paid.l have 31 year doing plumbing and heating in NY .
Pro dope is great for water and Natural Gas. Do not use it for propane. I always recommend using a dope that is compatible for all plumbing work. I prefer to use 3 wraps of blue monster ptfe tape then a thin coat of harvey TFE paste. I live in a area with only propane so this is very important.
Gasoila baby
I licensed and a certified carbon monoxide inspector.
Are you getting licensed in SC or someone else running the location?
@@PipeDoctor how long have u had your plumbing license in SC? I have been really wanting to get mine here
Righty tighty, lefty loosey...until that time righty tighty suddenly becomes like lefty loosey, and is quicky followed by loosey bowelly!
@@PipeDoctor ..which in normal English translates to that moment when the fastening either breaks or the thread strips and (depending on the situation) results in a stomach-churning sensation and possibly bricking onesself. Hope this clarifies the original comment.
P.S. Love the videos, especially the more technical ones with explanations. I like learning about this stuff.
Is there a similar kit to convert a gas water heater pilot to electronic ignition?
I’ve been trying to find one for AO Smith water heater. But then I realized no one would want that. You’d need the 24v transformer, the relay…the whole shebang. Not to mention your water heater can’t run without electricity anymore. Power outages == no showers 😂
@@dunkirk16 We discovered that with our solar pre-heater, the water maintains in a comfortable range with just the pilot light, so I am ok with that tiny use of gas thru the sunny season (Bay Area Nor Cal)
hope no one dose this without a manometer and manifold pressure check kaboomiee
a good rule of thumb i got from another you tuber ready
you want it fast-cheap-and done right ok choose 2 because you dont have the stax for all 3 another spin when you said licensed-professional-( ill add in) competant same thing choose 2 or hand me more stax lol
Were conec sense
wat u charge him 2999
to do the job right, you have to have the right tools. mikey, theres a real lack of wiring content of boilers beyond plugging components into control boxes. a complete wiring job either fan control relay or control box is much needed on the interwebs and people would benefit from learning from a pro rather than someone with their youtube hvac degree.
just sayin'.
Professional Shit talker 😫 Burned My boy Daniel!! 😂😂😂😂 Good work as always guys! 👌
I absolutely hate how that central vac pipe was just run through the boiler space, practically snaking through all the boiler piping!! I'd never have installed it that way!
@@PipeDoctor I neder do installs that way, but I also do my central vac work with the same mentality you do plumbing and HVAC with.
Daniel has a small head 😅
How would this save money. Standing pilot is 50$ a year. My guess is your bill was 1500. That's 30 years. That's assuming nothing goes wrong with the board.
silly design on this retrofit kit. why can't they eliminate the pilot all together and directly light the main burner using the spark?🤔
Hummmm
Obviously that guy didn't want the job giving him that crazy price. I know people do that when they really don't want the job, they figure if the price too high you'll kick rocks, and if you do bite well then its worth doing for the big money. Kinda like what our friend from Massachusetts does, cherry pickin all the easy jobs.
Why would you replace a standing pilot with electronic ignition your just adding more parts that will eventually fail only 2 things that can fail on a standing pilot thermal couple and gas valve.job security I guess
who cares about the ROI? it saves the boiler from getting sooted also, it's worth it........
First
The guy might have up charged him because he might have lost money on another job there
Just another reason to stay out of NY
Way too much pipe dope Mikey... you just need to fill the valleys of the thread with a light skim coat...
@@PipeDoctor 👍 I prefer "Pro-Dope" also..
FYI, that spring deal you have around the spark electrode is supposed to clamp to the pilot burner #1 for ground for proper spark, and.#2 it keeps the spark electrode from rotating around and wiggling about.
Nice job tho.
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I thought I was the only one that caught that! Nice job!
I have been in the plumbing heating and hvac service business for over 40 years, yes licensed. The main two things I would fire any of my technicians for is scare tactic sales and bashing other companies, you tagged both. Tools are for testing, yet I think that is not the case here. I think you use tools for increasing sales. What do you think techs use when they can’t afford expensive tools. In the case of stack temperature and draft test, it can be done simply with a smoke test and have done that for many years prior to purchasing Testo equipment. This along with many other tasks were completed way before the gadgets of today, I wouldn’t be so eager to discount them.
You make it sound like every other plumber is actually checking. You are full of shit. I see hundreds of systems with a fraction that have a test hole drilled. You’ve been in plumbing for 40 years and I’m taking all the money you left on the table by not delivering value. See yeah
Great response! It’s guys like you that customers need to stay away from. Leave it to the professionals that know and have the right tools for the job. You stuck in the past buddy, catch up to the modern technology. If you’re not testing you’re guessing 💨
What is the ROI? My guess Redman has at least 1 ex-wife.
@@PipeDoctor Agreed, give the customer what they want. But some (most) customers look at the numbers, just like this customer liked your lower price.
Thats my way out of here....bOOm
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