Just Off the Highway | Episode 33 | Irish in SA Part 2 Mysteries, Outlaws & Historical Consequences

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  • Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
  • For hundreds of years, Irish convicts, the Irish Brigade of outlaws, bank robbers and even secret political dealings on the Johannesburg gold fields might all have shaped the history of South Africa and Ireland, leading to consequences that are still felt today. Al Prodgers pulls at threads and discovers intertwining stories.
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  • @rev.valeriehamann4049
    @rev.valeriehamann4049 Рік тому +14

    My great grandad George Young jumped shipped in the 1800's in Grahamstown from a boat from Scotland (he was a convict headed for banishment to Australia). He ended up in Theunissen in the OFS).

  • @annikestrydom
    @annikestrydom Рік тому +4

    Thank you so much for the information you bring to us it's appreciate.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Рік тому

      Thank you very much for watching and for your kind comments.

  • @dizbiz9505
    @dizbiz9505 Рік тому +3

    This is beautiful. Keep them coming, Al!

  • @UnitedSouthAfricanCitizensUSA
    @UnitedSouthAfricanCitizensUSA Рік тому +4

    SOUTH AFRICA IS A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY. WE LOVE YOU IRISH PEOPLE. Thank you

  • @UlandiAnnandale
    @UlandiAnnandale Рік тому +9

    This is a great episode! Wow and the mining district looks great!! Thanks Al, thoroughly enjoyed.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Рік тому

      Thank you! Yes, some very interesting, authentic bits and pieces to see there.

  • @chrisjpndala7576
    @chrisjpndala7576 Рік тому +8

    Interesting piece of history 🎉

  • @DavidBatzofin
    @DavidBatzofin Рік тому +13

    Another awesome episode. These should be used in schools to teach our history. Thanks once again Al.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Рік тому

      Thanks for that high praise. Perhaps we should encourage kids to embrace their curiosity. I know very little. I just like discovering stuff.

    • @priscillafarrell2000
      @priscillafarrell2000 2 місяці тому

      Will never happen. Wrong history

  • @zamncube
    @zamncube Рік тому +6

    Really enjoyed this, looking forward to more

  • @rodprodgers9058
    @rodprodgers9058 Рік тому +11

    good one, Al, so many fascinating twists and turns - just imagine, without the Foster Gang we wouldn’t have had Bok van Blerk’s hit De La Rey . . . 🤭😉

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Рік тому +1

      I was thinking about that song. The Irish also write popular music about history and folk heroes.

    • @johanntheopienaar3635
      @johanntheopienaar3635 Рік тому

      The song of de la Rey has noting to do with the Foster gang

  • @catharinemorais8262
    @catharinemorais8262 Рік тому +7

    Love some of your commentary,,,hilarious 🤣 😆 😂

  • @CorneEngelbrecht78
    @CorneEngelbrecht78 Рік тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @guidobrits6593
    @guidobrits6593 Рік тому +2

    My goodness, interesting facts I never knew.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Рік тому

      Thanks for your comment. Glad you found the episode interesting.

  • @shaneolivier1650
    @shaneolivier1650 Рік тому +3

    History that I don't know about but very interesting,and by the way love you old Toyota,it looks pristine 👌

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Рік тому +2

      Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for your kind comment about the Corona. She's got plenty of km on the clock and a lovely patina. I do wish I could restore her completely.

  • @davidjones3712
    @davidjones3712 6 днів тому +2

    Please do an account of the Irish volunteers in the Boer war. At school we were taught about plucky boers fighting the mighty British empire but volunteers came from around the world. There was a monument in brixton now relocated...

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  6 днів тому

      Hi, yes, that's a fine story. The monument is now in Orania (I believe. Not 100% certain.) So that's a long way for me, but I hope to feature it one day soon.

  • @alidabotes6264
    @alidabotes6264 Рік тому +3

    The cleanest part of South Africa. I'm impressed with the maintenance. 🇿🇦

  • @trevoroutim8519
    @trevoroutim8519 Рік тому +1

    Amazing story.

  • @martiehanekom2075
    @martiehanekom2075 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for the interesting video. Please make a video on the Jeppe area. I often have to drive through this historic dilapidated area with the little houses or what is left of them that sits on the streets. I often wonder what is the history of the area. There is some really old buildings.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Рік тому

      Thanks. That's a really interesting idea. It's a part of town I know very little about.

    • @richardwebb9532
      @richardwebb9532 Рік тому +1

      My Dad owned the old mine managers house on the corner of main rd, Jeppedtown, was built in 1895.... We lived here for 40 years.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Рік тому

      @@richardwebb9532 Different building standards in those days.

    • @richardwebb9532
      @richardwebb9532 Рік тому +1

      @@JustOfftheHighway Monkey bar and Siesta boarding house, drop past and have a beer sometime 🍻👍

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Рік тому +1

      @@richardwebb9532 Thanks for the invitation. I'll be in touch.

  • @thepiratepenguin4465
    @thepiratepenguin4465 Рік тому +3

    2:58 My father's side came from Ireland to work the gold fields of the ZAR & make a life for themself far from the British jackboot having survived An Gorta Mór, Trevelyan's genocide of the Irish people.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Рік тому

      Thanks for adding that detail and sharing insight into family history.

  • @premierhoner614
    @premierhoner614 Рік тому +1

    WOW, great video. Thank you very much for all your postings. Yea, one can't change history. Although our poletitions wanted to... Keep up the good work and keep the camera rolling.... God bless you..........

  • @goldenlion647
    @goldenlion647 Рік тому +1

    Great narration.

  • @charlie9601
    @charlie9601 Рік тому +17

    Thanks for another enlightening video Al. An Irish passport is worth more than gold nowadays. My great grandmother was from County Cork, my great grandfather was a German/Jew, so he changed his name from Aschman to Ashman, due to the stigma, before emigrating to SA. Due to the name change after years of attemting every avenue possible, we were unable to aquire the golden ticket. However, as soon as you think you got a grasp on things, Mr Prodgers arrives and makes you feel silly for not knowing your heritage and history. As always, thank you and stay safe.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Рік тому

      Glad you liked it, Malcolm. You're lucky to know so much about your ancestors. I'm constantly just jaw-drop amazed by the intertwined stories that make up SA people. Thanks!

  • @petercarter8455
    @petercarter8455 Рік тому +1

    For a lot more interesting stuff about our history look for Rod Kruger.
    His knowledge is very valuable

  • @andrewallen9993
    @andrewallen9993 Рік тому +6

    If they had allowed the convicts to land like in Australia the aborigines of South Africa would have been ethnically cleansed like they did in Australia.

    • @khaulezaskhosana5062
      @khaulezaskhosana5062 Рік тому

      Your forefathers, like Jan van Riebeeck who was a convict did kill and raped our forefathers. There's no need to make a joke about this.

  • @colinwinship1231
    @colinwinship1231 10 місяців тому +3

    Go to Parkhurst in JHB all the street names are Irish place names

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  10 місяців тому

      Yes, if I remember correctly, there's a connection between the street names and someone (name escapes me now) who was one of the founders of Wits University.

  • @ScribblebytesWorldwide
    @ScribblebytesWorldwide Рік тому +3

    That's why I've always had a thing for SA Irish men. Any single ones hit me up.

  • @nedor64
    @nedor64 Рік тому +2

    My Irish grandfather came to SA early 1900 he got married to a SA woman 1913. I would like to find out more about his background etc but it is very difficult.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Рік тому +1

      Yes, genealogical research can be complicated and expensive.I believe there are societies that are willing to guide you to do your own research.

    • @markriordan9010
      @markriordan9010 Рік тому

      Hi Michael, how old are you ? You don't have a brother Chris, who passed away recently ?

    • @nedor64
      @nedor64 Рік тому

      @@markriordan9010 Hi Mark I was born 1958. No I don't have any brothers.

    • @markriordan9010
      @markriordan9010 Рік тому

      @@nedor64 Thanks, I was also born in '58, had a half-brother named Michael Riordan, I'm also keen to trace our roots to the time when we came over here. Good luck with your search. Proud to be Irish origin, but this is a magnificent country, spoiled by the Government at the moment, but we live in hope.

  • @rudolphadonis3030
    @rudolphadonis3030 Рік тому +1

    Very informative I drive by that intersection at least once or twice a month. It's funny I never heard of the Irish influences in SA before in school . I 🤔 why ?

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Рік тому +1

      Thanks. I'm also amazed that I continually discover stories that I believe should be more widely known. I guess various authorities have always wanted to emphasise certain stories and ignore others.

    • @rudolphadonis3030
      @rudolphadonis3030 Рік тому

      @@JustOfftheHighway well I can't argue there .

  • @cecilysharrock678
    @cecilysharrock678 Рік тому

    One cant believe one word anymore.😢

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Рік тому

      Hi Cecily, I hope you don't mean that you can't believe one word of my stories. I assure you I've backed them up with more than one source. If you mean that powerful parties constantly try to edit history in their favour, then I agree with you.

  • @alexszabo6267
    @alexszabo6267 Рік тому +1

    Please do some stories of Melville😊😊

  • @seamus9750
    @seamus9750 Рік тому +1

    The roads were obviously better in Del a Ray's time where he could speed😂

  • @donaldgoodinson7550
    @donaldgoodinson7550 Рік тому +2

    No matter how bad the Irish gangs were they will never surpass the evil that the ANC has done to us.

  • @gregtriplett2458
    @gregtriplett2458 Місяць тому

    How about the place in Natal called 'Home Rule'. that's pretty Irish.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Місяць тому

      Hi Greg, I had never heard of it, so I did some research, with zero results. If there is such a place, it certainly has a fascinating name and I'd love to hear more. Please let us know.

  • @tokolohobizo2737
    @tokolohobizo2737 Рік тому +1

    S.A has it's problems just like any other country in the world but if you read some of the comments below you'd think this was Syria or Ukraine

  • @tactical-masterclass9408
    @tactical-masterclass9408 Рік тому

    "Johannesburg, a city fathered by gold, mothered by money, then commandeered by white men with cruelty and greed".Egoli, the city of Gold. Proudly South African🇿🇦🇿🇦

    • @kelrogers8480
      @kelrogers8480 Рік тому

      Now commandeered by black people with cruelty, violence and greed! Viva, ANC!

    • @tactical-masterclass9408
      @tactical-masterclass9408 Рік тому +1

      @@kelrogers8480 you can say that again. Things have turned out badly, to say Joburg is now more than dangerous is an understatement. It's scary!

  • @walterlotz8010
    @walterlotz8010 Рік тому

    Lol
    Give write up on eskom

  • @hdhsjsjs-ol6ej
    @hdhsjsjs-ol6ej Рік тому

    Surely you must have gotten robbed in South Africa,