@@Mizai Buckethead probably isn't lol. His style is too obtuse for the average listener, and artists that aren't mainstream make far less than you'd think
you are by far my favorite guitar builder hands down. the concepts you come up with are fantastic and motivate me to make what makes me happy and not just what is conventional. keep up the amazing content and the confidence to push the boundaries. I'm slowly working on starting my own build channel and seeing your work inspires me to want to share my builds and experience with others and hope it helps them in the same way you've helped me. thank you bud
This is my first look at a baritone guitar. Can't believe I'd not heard of them before. Truly fascinating. Your work designing and building are a marvel.
Tim, I really love these videos. As somebody that cares about the environment, I love to see sustainably-sourced materials and original, unique guitars. Too many other channels build guitars that are copies of strats or teles, but these are awesome! Thanks for all your work, these are true gems.
Tim, your work is generally great, but this is a special gem of an instrument! Thank you for the two videos on the Jet Screamer, they've been a joy to watch. Cheers!
I love that pickup! I always put the treble side closer to the neck on split pickups. Sounds more balanced. I always fret after the fretboard is glued on. That way I can make sure it’s still level from the gluing process. I also glue my frets in. I also use zero frets a lot. I love the body shape too. My 80s band was called the Jetsonz. 😁
The guitar came out great, looks and sounds really good, cool name too. I like the range of the Baritone as well, and I find it somehow easier to hear and relate pitches to.
Looks like it turned out well. It's a brighter tone than I get from mine.........but it makes sense with the pickup differences. Now you understand why Baritone guitars are cool.
Actually The Baritone Guitar is a mainstay for Nashville's "Big Guitar" sound. Artists like Brent Mason carry one to every Studio Session. Respectfully: This sound Ain't It!!! You can get this sound on most Strats simply by tuning down 2 steps. My sincere compliments on the genius construction. Most impressive.
411th LIKE posted at 7:27 in this 3,926th - was hoping you'd talk about the decision to use the ZERO fret (thumbs up!)... now for the rest of the episode. WOW - it came out looking and sounding great. 8:40 & 8:47.
I love an hand built instrument. One thing, I work on an assembly line, so for quality control everything and I mean everything is torqued to a very specific measure. My concern is about continuity.
I enjoyed watching the video, the craftsmanship, and the artistic approach. That said, this guitar is not my cup of tea. Not bashing you man.. you have a skill far beyond me. I'm sure others would love this special one of a kind piece of art.
cheers. It's a new interest for me as I like hearing the notes and shapes in different ranges. I was always old school. Never even played a 5 string bass. (I Often only used 2 or 3 just to make myself have to work harder and make wiser choices :)
Knowing somebody that works at a "local harpsicord factory" is a very fucking Tim Sway thing. Who the fuck else is even aware of a local harpsicord factory?
With the pole arrangement of that pickup, it's almost the reverse effect given with the angled strat pickup. Poles closer to the bridge yield cleaner tones, further away, mud. The higher strings on your setup are less articulate, and the bass more. I put a left handed tele bridge on one of mine for that specific reason. Hendrix had that effect with going for him too.
Transparent things are always really hard to photograph, especially when they are flat like that. When there are curves, you can use a big softbox and put some cardboard stripes in front of it to show-off the shape, but when it's flat, doing that won't give much of an advantage. I feel that you probably have better results using a dark background that's pretty far away, edge lighting the plastic to make the frosted band show-off and maybe use a bit of foam core to reflect a bit of light on the front. If the back is dark enough when compared to the light on the guitar, your camera won't be able to record it and it will appear black even if it's not.
Fun fact that's lived in my brain since early childhood: Jet's song went "EEP, OOP, ORK, AH AH!!!"" which was a code language that Elroy & his friend (used &) wrote down, but the paper got mixed up with Judy's submission for Jet Screamer's lyric contest. Hijinks ensues, Judy wins the contest but it's actually Elroy's language, but it's still a good song in the end. Strong name for this baritone!
Thanks for reminding me of the back story. I remembered eep oop ork ah ah and that song has been stuck in my head for a little while, too. I looked up the episode date and it originally aired Sept 30, 1962 - a year and a half before the Beatles hit the states!
I was just faking metal for the video. I almost pulled the Volvo out for the photoshoot for this one, but I was having such a hard time photographing it in controlled areas I gave up :)
My first guitar (acoustic) had a zero fret and I loved it. Why isn't it more popular?Glad to see you include one, but now that I want to build a guitar, could you do a more in-depth video about zero frets? Are there more/special considerations for nut shape? Height? Depth of slots? String angle? Fret wire? Need the info! 😆
the zero fret makes open notes sound the same as fretted notes and setup easier. All you need to do is put the fret where the nut would be and put the nut a little further back. All the nut needs to do is keep the string in line and touching the zero fret, so it doesn't really have to be as precise as a traditional nut. The only tricky part is making sure the string is making full contact with the zero fret so there's no buzz. On flat headstock guitars like this, I use a string retainer across all 6 strings (like a floyd rose style) to make sure they are all seated. Or sometimes you'll think it's touching but it's not, but you'll discover that quickly as every fret will be out of tune.
One of your finest instruments, Tim. Love the sound and look. One tweak I highly recommend is that you should get yourself into the world of staggered tuners. This will alleviate your tuning stability issues and allow you to do away with the string tree because they are perfectly measured for the break angle needed on your higher strings. Just some food for thought of course.
I have another headstock style I make with 3x3 inset tuners that I think are the best way to do it. I'm not sure I believe and trust staggered tuners enough to work. lol
@@timsway A lot of guitarists use them and love them, including legends like Eric Johnson, but if you'd rather not even bother, that's your decision to make.
@@DoppelgangerShockwave (The behind the scenes truth is a couple years ago I placed bulk orders for some hardware like tuners. gotta use them up first :)
Love this guitar, hope to see more Jet Screamers in the future. That ipe looks real good! I've been meaning to make a violin with an ipe finger board and fittings. Just have to work up the courage to try turning those delicate violin pegs.
When you say turning do you mean making them or tuning the instrument? Both are terrifying! lol. I'm making a wood-pegged instrument in a much larger scale right now (pipa). It's my first and I'm learning ...
@@timsway Just the pegs. I wanted to turn them from scratch for my first violin. At some point though I had to finish it, so I did the standard thing and bought the blanks. Hope you share the pipa on your channel if you get the chance! It sounds like an awesome build.
It's all artistic interpretation and I'm no expert, but it seems like the clear acrylic body provided an opportunity to reduce weight, through a more deeply cut shape or holes cut into the body. Also, could LED strips be cut into the edge of the body to illuminate the interior? This isn't a critique. Great results here.
would you do thisas an experiment for me? Use a fender bridge or a true brass bridge for this. I suspect the bridge being some zinc oxide pot metal makes a big difference in sound.
Jet Screamer is perfect. I had suggested Jet Sound, and Gregory Zunic countered with Jet Screamer (Eep Op Ork!) I love the way the light collects at the edges in the sun! So cool. Have you used Ipe for the fretboard before? The loose fretting may be due to the character of the wood being *very* hard, so it's not compressing while the slots are being cut and therefore not springing back after the cut. Just a guess, never tried Ipe myself.
THANKS! I couldn't find the thread to give proper credit. My guess is it's the ipe that caused the problem, too as I made two other maple boards at the same time that were fine. I have used ipe before but not in a while. I can remember having a hard time getting the frets in but I was much worse at all of this them too. It could also be that I used a .021" end mill where I prefer the .020" but was fresh out (I buy them used in bulk from factories that use them for etching pcb boards or whatever)
I reaaally like this one!! (I've got a non-baritone Danelectro Hodad tuned down to B standard and an Eko 295 tuned to drop A-DADGAD, can you see a little connection??!! :D )
I built my 1st baritone guitar about a year ago. A 30 inch scale beast! Check out the finished product video on my YT page/channel. It's the Tele-Baller BootyCaster.
@@timsway Thanks! I used 2mm thick aluminum I cut into two 8mm wide strips long enough fo the guitar, then heat softened it before shaping it to the body with a plastc/rubber mallet. Secured the whole thing with woodscrews and countersunk holes. You can't pre drill the holes but you can mark them, because it wants to bend where the holes are. But its helpful to have it secured with screws while shaping it. So best start in the middle of the aluminum secured to the bottom of the guitar (after routing) and shape it as you go along each side. Then polish or give the aluminum a machine finish with steel wool.
Another cool video from Tim! I have recently came across your chanel and really fell in love with it. So much, in fact, that I now want to try making my own guitar completely from scratch! However, the problem is the lack of material. You see, I've got plenty of wood, but it is pine (I do really have a ton of that stuff), which is told to be soft and not durable(also a bad tone wood). I've tried to buy some nice wood like maple or ash maybe, but it seems that getting such type of material is a real mission impossible. Is starting with pine even worth trying or is it better to go on looking for some better material?
it's possible with pine but definitely an uphill battle. try finding some old maple dining table or something like that. they're usually pretty cheap at second hand stores.
Yes and no. Shellac is made partly from a secretion of the Lac bug. It's an interesting process performed almost exclusively in India. You can watch videos of the process. It reeks of all the worst parts of exploitative capitalism and colonialism (but, then again, almost every product does if you look in to it). But in reality, shellac is 95% denatured alcohol which gives it a pretty high VOC (volatile organic compounds) rating compared to water based products, but yes, much lower than lacquers, etc.
Send it to buckethead, he would rock it. And his guitars got stolen
artists are rich enough to buy new guitars
@@Mizai Buckethead probably isn't lol. His style is too obtuse for the average listener, and artists that aren't mainstream make far less than you'd think
you are by far my favorite guitar builder hands down. the concepts you come up with are fantastic and motivate me to make what makes me happy and not just what is conventional. keep up the amazing content and the confidence to push the boundaries. I'm slowly working on starting my own build channel and seeing your work inspires me to want to share my builds and experience with others and hope it helps them in the same way you've helped me. thank you bud
awesome. Thanks for the kind words. Subscribed! :)
agreed. i don't watch many guitar building videos, but when I do, it's tim sway all the way
Definitely would hear a baritone as you’re entering the underworld. Nothing sounds like that low B.
I love the geometric motif and the gutsy sound. The name is perfect too. All around a very cool guitar. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks. I'm starting to find "my voice" in the geometric vs traditional guitar shapes. I will explore this shape more for sure.
This is my first look at a baritone guitar. Can't believe I'd not heard of them before. Truly fascinating. Your work designing and building are a marvel.
There is clearly (lol) a step in the right direction. Your builds get better and better every day. Great design, great work.
thanks!
Big fan Tim. You are awesome!!!!
i agree about the look of the pickup. It really stands out.
Tim, I really love these videos. As somebody that cares about the environment, I love to see sustainably-sourced materials and original, unique guitars. Too many other channels build guitars that are copies of strats or teles, but these are awesome! Thanks for all your work, these are true gems.
Tim, your work is generally great, but this is a special gem of an instrument! Thank you for the two videos on the Jet Screamer, they've been a joy to watch. Cheers!
thank YOU!
The frosted edges are a nice look
I love that pickup! I always put the treble side closer to the neck on split pickups. Sounds more balanced.
I always fret after the fretboard is glued on. That way I can make sure it’s still level from the gluing process. I also glue my frets in. I also use zero frets a lot.
I love the body shape too.
My 80s band was called the Jetsonz. 😁
Oh man, this instrument would have been perfect for the Jetsonz
Incredibly cool, very unique - and this guitar would absolutely kill it in any hard rock context. Very nice demo as well!
Appreciate the details on the neck work. Very cool concept for the body too.
“Tang…?”Ain’t nothing but a Tang! Cool! It looks awesome!! Thanks! 😎
This is the most beautiful guitar you've made yet!
You rock and that tone with that kill switch is the best
The guitar came out great, looks and sounds really good, cool name too. I like the range of the Baritone as well, and I find it somehow easier to hear and relate pitches to.
Looks like it turned out well. It's a brighter tone than I get from mine.........but it makes sense with the pickup differences. Now you understand why Baritone guitars are cool.
Using pop rivet leftovers for side markers. That's a "why didn't I think of that?" moment for me.
Actually The Baritone Guitar is a mainstay for Nashville's "Big Guitar" sound. Artists like Brent Mason carry one to every Studio Session. Respectfully: This sound Ain't It!!!
You can get this sound on most Strats simply by tuning down 2 steps. My sincere compliments on the genius construction. Most impressive.
A strat would constantly go out of tune
I just finished putting together my baritone guitar, and I'm pretty happy with what I came up with too
I was looking forward to part 2 !
Looks and sounds great Tim.
411th LIKE posted at 7:27 in this 3,926th - was hoping you'd talk about the decision to use the ZERO fret (thumbs up!)... now for the rest of the episode.
WOW - it came out looking and sounding great. 8:40 & 8:47.
Cool! Thanks for sharing the Journey.....
Love the baritone sound and it’s a really nice looking instrument.
Baritones are so sick! I had a Danelectro Baritone and it sounded great clean or with some crunch.
What a tasty guitar! Love the pickup design! Always impressed! Nice job!
this thing looks cool as hell tim
Great outcome.
I have that scroll saw (minus the belt guard), it's a beast!
I swear the crunchy riff sounds exactly like a song from St. Anger.
i frickin hate guitars, but i love builds, and this is a sweet build haha nice job and nice work not getting the acrylic all scratched to crap!
Beautiful!
Really appreciate your positivity, creativity and craftsmanship. Thank you!
thank YOU! :)
Sounds amazing!
I love an hand built instrument. One thing, I work on an assembly line, so for quality control everything and I mean everything is torqued to a very specific measure. My concern is about continuity.
Rob Scallion actually makes a 7 and 8 string that have fanned frets that straighten out into a normal scale length.
I enjoyed watching the video, the craftsmanship, and the artistic approach. That said, this guitar is not my cup of tea. Not bashing you man.. you have a skill far beyond me. I'm sure others would love this special one of a kind piece of art.
if everyone liked the same things, the world would be weird and boring :)
Cool guitar! I love baritones. Dig your headstock too.
This really is cool bud , sounds great
I know I keep saying this but.... this is one of my favorite builds. Like the tone as well.
Fantastic as always Tim!!!
thanks amigo! Hope you're doing well
Took a couple of days to get to it!!! Really nice one.
Gotta get some Rocket Sockets! 👍🏼
Sounds incredible! ♥️
Great sound.
Great video. Awesome looking guitar. Great name. Grain on neck really pops. Love all the details. Mahalo for sharing! : )
Thank you kindly!
That thing is beautiful mate ,well done,very clean sound,very alive.
thanks!
Wow! Nice, I love my new baritone. I haven't touched my regular guitars since I got it a month ago. It just feels right!
I understand completely.
Love the pickup idea for this, sounds awesome too.
love the shapes & design of this. incredible job
thanks!
fantastic! the building and the video both.
Awesome !!! Nice guitar bro. I'm also fan of the cero fret
I’ve got a baritone 8 string, it really does have a growl like nothing else - I need a 6 string baritone one day, for sure
That was the most interesting video I've seen in a while. I'd love to play that!
I call 'shenanigans' spam, almost every comment on this page has the same 'Text me' comment.
Yep! Very cool😎
You should build more Baritone Guitars!
great guitar
I love 0 frets too. I installed them on a few of my guitars- makes me wish that was the norm/standard!
So cool and different. Love the shape. I'm obsessed with extended range guitars.
cheers. It's a new interest for me as I like hearing the notes and shapes in different ranges. I was always old school. Never even played a 5 string bass. (I Often only used 2 or 3 just to make myself have to work harder and make wiser choices :)
@@timsway you Hit the nail on the head. Will put. 👌
Super Build Tim ... Hi from Italy
ciao!
@@timsway :-) ciao Tim
The "Mad Scientist" of Connecticut, is back at it
While the duration of the population is in slumber. He works with acrylics, not lumber!
lol. Not any more. I'm fresh out of reclaimed acrylic :)
nice work man
Great. Tone.
Looks killer too - obviously :)
Jet Screamer is indeed fitting.
Looks amazing!!!! 👍😃😎🤘
It's just so cool. It has some Silvertone vibes to it. Good stuff Dude!
Knowing somebody that works at a "local harpsicord factory" is a very fucking Tim Sway thing. Who the fuck else is even aware of a local harpsicord factory?
lol. There aren't many left I'm sure. go follow @offyourrockerwoodwork on instagram for some truly interesting photos sometimes.
Awesome.
What a cool guitar, congrats
Cool stuff man. I love the sound of a baritone guitar. Cool 2 part video!
all the way from malta you good mr
Malta?! What a dump :-p
With the pole arrangement of that pickup, it's almost the reverse effect given with the angled strat pickup. Poles closer to the bridge yield cleaner tones, further away, mud. The higher strings on your setup are less articulate, and the bass more. I put a left handed tele bridge on one of mine for that specific reason. Hendrix had that effect with going for him too.
I did it like that as this instrument is more about the mids/lows than treble, being a baritone and all.
Transparent things are always really hard to photograph, especially when they are flat like that. When there are curves, you can use a big softbox and put some cardboard stripes in front of it to show-off the shape, but when it's flat, doing that won't give much of an advantage. I feel that you probably have better results using a dark background that's pretty far away, edge lighting the plastic to make the frosted band show-off and maybe use a bit of foam core to reflect a bit of light on the front. If the back is dark enough when compared to the light on the guitar, your camera won't be able to record it and it will appear black even if it's not.
thanks for the pro tips!
@@timsway You're welcome 🙂
Love it👍
I want one!
Fun fact that's lived in my brain since early childhood: Jet's song went "EEP, OOP, ORK, AH AH!!!"" which was a code language that Elroy & his friend (used &) wrote down, but the paper got mixed up with Judy's submission for Jet Screamer's lyric contest. Hijinks ensues, Judy wins the contest but it's actually Elroy's language, but it's still a good song in the end. Strong name for this baritone!
Ok
Thanks for reminding me of the back story. I remembered eep oop ork ah ah and that song has been stuck in my head for a little while, too. I looked up the episode date and it originally aired Sept 30, 1962 - a year and a half before the Beatles hit the states!
Sweet!
Awesome
Look at you getting kinda metal. Couch jam from the Volvo needs to happen.
I was just faking metal for the video. I almost pulled the Volvo out for the photoshoot for this one, but I was having such a hard time photographing it in controlled areas I gave up :)
I believe it was shaolin shoppe, who suggested Jetson.. and it looks and sounds awesome!
there were a couple Jetsons mentions. Alan W refreshed me that he said "Jet Sound" and Greg Zunic countered with Jet Screamer.
@@timsway I'm just going to go ahead and assume I came up with it first because I want that to be the case 🙃
@@shaolinshoppe congrats! :)
My first guitar (acoustic) had a zero fret and I loved it. Why isn't it more popular?Glad to see you include one, but now that I want to build a guitar, could you do a more in-depth video about zero frets? Are there more/special considerations for nut shape? Height? Depth of slots? String angle? Fret wire? Need the info! 😆
the zero fret makes open notes sound the same as fretted notes and setup easier. All you need to do is put the fret where the nut would be and put the nut a little further back. All the nut needs to do is keep the string in line and touching the zero fret, so it doesn't really have to be as precise as a traditional nut. The only tricky part is making sure the string is making full contact with the zero fret so there's no buzz. On flat headstock guitars like this, I use a string retainer across all 6 strings (like a floyd rose style) to make sure they are all seated. Or sometimes you'll think it's touching but it's not, but you'll discover that quickly as every fret will be out of tune.
One of your finest instruments, Tim. Love the sound and look. One tweak I highly recommend is that you should get yourself into the world of staggered tuners. This will alleviate your tuning stability issues and allow you to do away with the string tree because they are perfectly measured for the break angle needed on your higher strings. Just some food for thought of course.
I have another headstock style I make with 3x3 inset tuners that I think are the best way to do it. I'm not sure I believe and trust staggered tuners enough to work. lol
@@timsway A lot of guitarists use them and love them, including legends like Eric Johnson, but if you'd rather not even bother, that's your decision to make.
@@DoppelgangerShockwave (The behind the scenes truth is a couple years ago I placed bulk orders for some hardware like tuners. gotta use them up first :)
@@timsway Mhmm... All right then, lol!
Love this guitar, hope to see more Jet Screamers in the future.
That ipe looks real good! I've been meaning to make a violin with an ipe finger board and fittings. Just have to work up the courage to try turning those delicate violin pegs.
When you say turning do you mean making them or tuning the instrument? Both are terrifying! lol. I'm making a wood-pegged instrument in a much larger scale right now (pipa). It's my first and I'm learning ...
@@timsway Just the pegs. I wanted to turn them from scratch for my first violin. At some point though I had to finish it, so I did the standard thing and bought the blanks.
Hope you share the pipa on your channel if you get the chance! It sounds like an awesome build.
@@EricTrimbur I will when it's done. Soon.
The dog poop bags... Totally stealing that trick
It's all artistic interpretation and I'm no expert, but it seems like the clear acrylic body provided an opportunity to reduce weight, through a more deeply cut shape or holes cut into the body. Also, could LED strips be cut into the edge of the body to illuminate the interior? This isn't a critique. Great results here.
yes and yes. I have other videos where I've done both those things!
i'm a week late and a $2 Bill short, it should have been the StrongArm 6.
I gotta make myself a baritone, that sounds great. I like VI's, but the low end can be problematic for chords in the first position.
Yea, I really dig the bass vi but agreed, full, open chords on it are not clear.
would you do thisas an experiment for me? Use a fender bridge or a true brass bridge for this. I suspect the bridge being some zinc oxide pot metal makes a big difference in sound.
Man I really need a cnc !
Jet Screamer is perfect. I had suggested Jet Sound, and Gregory Zunic countered with Jet Screamer (Eep Op Ork!)
I love the way the light collects at the edges in the sun! So cool.
Have you used Ipe for the fretboard before? The loose fretting may be due to the character of the wood being *very* hard, so it's not compressing while the slots are being cut and therefore not springing back after the cut. Just a guess, never tried Ipe myself.
THANKS! I couldn't find the thread to give proper credit. My guess is it's the ipe that caused the problem, too as I made two other maple boards at the same time that were fine. I have used ipe before but not in a while. I can remember having a hard time getting the frets in but I was much worse at all of this them too.
It could also be that I used a .021" end mill where I prefer the .020" but was fresh out (I buy them used in bulk from factories that use them for etching pcb boards or whatever)
I reaaally like this one!! (I've got a non-baritone Danelectro Hodad tuned down to B standard and an Eko 295 tuned to drop A-DADGAD, can you see a little connection??!! :D )
Beautiful build, and it sounds sick too. Where can I find songs/bands similar to the 9:00 demo???
that was just me noodling. Not sure what to tell you. Pretty generic metal/hard rock type stuff.
I built my 1st baritone guitar about a year ago. A 30 inch scale beast! Check out the finished product video on my YT page/channel.
It's the Tele-Baller BootyCaster.
I LOVE the sparkly edge banding
@@timsway Thanks! I used 2mm thick aluminum I cut into two 8mm wide strips long enough fo the guitar, then heat softened it before shaping it to the body with a plastc/rubber mallet. Secured the whole thing with woodscrews and countersunk holes.
You can't pre drill the holes but you can mark them, because it wants to bend where the holes are. But its helpful to have it secured with screws while shaping it.
So best start in the middle of the aluminum secured to the bottom of the guitar (after routing) and shape it as you go along each side.
Then polish or give the aluminum a machine finish with steel wool.
Another cool video from Tim! I have recently came across your chanel and really fell in love with it. So much, in fact, that I now want to try making my own guitar completely from scratch! However, the problem is the lack of material. You see, I've got plenty of wood, but it is pine (I do really have a ton of that stuff), which is told to be soft and not durable(also a bad tone wood). I've tried to buy some nice wood like maple or ash maybe, but it seems that getting such type of material is a real mission impossible. Is starting with pine even worth trying or is it better to go on looking for some better material?
it's possible with pine but definitely an uphill battle. try finding some old maple dining table or something like that. they're usually pretty cheap at second hand stores.
or pallets. they come in all sorts of hard woods, too
thanks, Tim!
Great build, as always 👍😊
Maybe put some aluminium foil behind the nameplate?
yea, that might help, or paint the hole black first. or different colors/materials...
Play some type o negative on that thang!
It might be interesting on drop A too!
Also, how about acoustic Bass VI?
you order it, I'll make it for you :)
This had a this old Tony vibe
Noooice
Reacting to your early on comment about chemicals etc, shellac is usually all natural I think?
Yes and no. Shellac is made partly from a secretion of the Lac bug. It's an interesting process performed almost exclusively in India. You can watch videos of the process. It reeks of all the worst parts of exploitative capitalism and colonialism (but, then again, almost every product does if you look in to it). But in reality, shellac is 95% denatured alcohol which gives it a pretty high VOC (volatile organic compounds) rating compared to water based products, but yes, much lower than lacquers, etc.