Go to buyraycon.com/actman for 15% off your order! Brought to you by Raycon. The Halo Cycle is real, huh? Halo 5 is kind of underrated in some ways but DEFINITELY NOT in many others. What do you think? What ways was it better or worse than Infinite?
Halo infinite was fine mp. But halo 5? Halo 5 mp is one of the best pvp games ever, unironically. Especially super Fiesta, criminally underrated and overhated
@@AFunkyFella exactly. People calling 343 the worst developer for Halo 5 is unfair because it is a very well thought out and ambitious game. It's just again, like you said, not the right direction for Halo.
Halo 5 mp was definitely different from the past halo games, but I had a lot of fun with it. The biggest let down with infinite was that the guns felt alright in 5, but in infinite it seems like half your shots don’t register.
@@ArmageddonPhysics 4 of which are trash, one is an explosive, one is a pistol and the other is an assault rifle. I'll stick to literally any Halo game that isn't Infinite.
@@ArmageddonPhysics that's legit my main problem with infinite, like I can ignore pretty much all the other issues it has because playing the game is still kinda fun, but there is quite literally 4 useful (non power) weapons, maybe 5 if you get good at using the commando
Halo 5 gave me a friend group I could never replace, and we've stuck with eachother for 3+ years, it may not have been a perfect game but it's certainly one I love.
It’s a good game. It’s just an awful Halo game. If it launched as it’s own title it would have done fine. But it called itself halo while doing as much as it could to separate itself from Halo as possible (changed the art style, the music, the gameplay, the physics, and downgraded tons of basic features). It’s like going into Pizza Hut and the staff telling you they only serve Burgers.
Can't argue with this. This is what online gaming is all about. I will say though, it used to be a lot better before every game turned to the onlyfans model. I think we can get back there one day.
Still waiting for halo infinite to capture the that chaos I loved about 5. Honestly, I gave up on halo multiplayer after 2. I thought 3 and reach were mids. halo 4 was better than reach, but still mids. And halo 5 took a long time, but the last five years were incredible.
Not patching the weapon pad glitch in guardians was such an incredible move on their part. I feel like so many developers would have but 343 saw that it was funny and had a lot of potential for players to just have fun with so they left it alone. Never thought I'd commend a developers for not doing their job but I actually really appreciated that one. So many fun times with me and my buddies came from that glitch
I haven't played any halo since 4 came out so I do know about the mp maps but on the og Xbox and halo 2 you could do the special things like crouch on a rail and shot in a corner or stuff like that and it would launch you to the top of the map. I used to do it on lockout playing swat(headshots) I'd decimate the other tesm.
Good video, just a little side note about breakout "not being in the game", it actually still is in matchmaking under the "Elimination" playlist in ranked. Which combined breakout 1.0 from the game's launch, breakout 2.0 which was the updated version with shotties and shields, and then the community made mode extermination. Glad to see you still have some appreciation for this game over infinite.
@@R0gueIsHere Basically MCC exists if you want the actual Halo games and it's fixed enough to be playable now. Infinite also exists if you want a newer Halo (although tbh I'm not sure it's much better than 5 considering how dry it is...) What hurts even more for 5 is that it's not on PC, so however few of us PC Halo fans there are, we won't be there to drive up numbers.
@@R0gueIsHere that’s not why and you know it. 5 has one of the best multiplayers. Second off certain lobbies are empty and some like infection is full which also refutes that claim. Put your bias hate to 5 aside and if you have an actual answer THEN reply to me
My biggest issue in Warzone was that the bosses were last hit kill for the points. When bosses died it should of became a King of the Hill objective to score the points so one guy across the map can't snipe your boss kill from you after you ammo dumped the boss
I dont know how else they would've balanced it, because if it were based on the most damage dealt by team, people wouldnt bother going after the bosses.
@@danjjjatest I've never felt like it was a damage thing. I've have plenty of bosses snipe stolen from me across the map from me. Adding a King of the Hill objective after boss defeat would make it more about map control. It can be a quick capture like 5 seconds. Heroes of the Storm has the same boss concept. I don't see how adding a second objective to claim the boss kill would of made people not go for bosses anymore. Hell I practically ignored bosses in warzone except for trying to get the last hit.
Wow I didn't expect to see myself in your clips that you saved for this video. (6:37 - 8:30 Ryth) I will always believe that although broken, Halo 5 PvP made me stick around due to how chaotic fun warzone was. Forge maps was also always a blast to play like the huge zombie maps, and it's cool to be immortalized in a game with dispite plenty of issues, did have its time to shine for plenty of us.
actually met someone from this game in a custom match.. we lived in the same state and decided to meet after several months of playing.. now we’ve been in a relationship for 4 years and are in college now working on our life’s together.. this game will always have that special place in my heart with all the memories I had with it!
Halo 5 is the only game I've ever played where I felt there was too much content. Take a break for a few days and there's two new maps in rotation, weapon pickups changed so I was always having to change up how I played the map. Underrated game.
You could unlock all items for free by playing the game too. Two warzone matches got you a gold pack, and while it was random what you got from the pack, getting that pack with your hard earned req points and getting armor was so much more satisfying than paying $20 for colors.
Alright hold up you know how much armors and amor duplicates there were that almost looked the same? But rarely got it because it was in a randomize lootbox that rarely gave you armor but alot of random warzone weapons especially mongoose and carbines? I like H5 mp too but at that point I'd rather spend 20$ then grind for a hour just to get a wasp. Imma keep it 100 and admit I just decided to pay for the reach helmet bundle lol
True but for weapons it just wasn't maintainable. I remember saving them up for a year, and I blew past them in a few months by playing warzone exclusively. You basically use up more gold packs than you gain them.
Honestly the Warzone Firefight and Warzone PvPvE stuff was super fun and a very cool new game mode. Sad it didn't return but fun modes in 4 like Dominion, Extraction, Ricocet, and Regicide didn't return in 5 so yeah.
I'd say warzone replaced dominion, but it would've been nice to have more of the dominion elements in warzone. The fortification of bases and turrets and stuff.
Breakout is a game mode in the Elimination playlist along with Extermination so it’s not gone. Both are some of my favorite game modes that I hope they bring back.
While I know it's not the same & I would want H5 breakout back, Attrition is what became of it in infinite. Those elimination/breakout ranked matches were some of the sweeties 😅. Until 343 ruined it with Breakout 2.0 🫤
The gunplay and movement in guardians was really fun. It was fun going sweat mode in this game. I still prefer classic halo but 5 is fun to go back to once in a while
I actually enjoyed H5’s multiplayer the most. Fun, fast paced and flowed really well. Very satisfying to play! And let’s not forget it’s wide variety of weaponry.
Felt like this MP was so underrated halo 5 was my first halo and made me want to go back and play the other halo games and introduced me to this channel and Luke the notable when looking for halo content
Yeah but when you had UA-cam channels shitting on it constantly “wHy iS theRe sPrinT!!!??&&” it’ll eventually sour. Didn’t help with the false marketing either and bland launch.
Breakout was my jam. It felt so good having a goal to work towards (Champion). the top 200 was super competitive and made some really good friends and made for some super intense moments. ultimately landed champion 12, and had champion 1 rank for a couple days. Miss those days.
For me, Halo 5 still has some of the best multiplayer in Halo. Yes, it changed the formula a lot but I found it much more enjoyable than Reach and Halo 4. I also thought the spartan abilities were pretty cool. And I don't want to forget it actually has an enjoyable Infection, something Infinite still doesn't have. And Warzone is one of the best things in this game.
I will always remember Halo 5 because Spartan Companies were it’s clan-equivalent system was actually official, not something vague and impromptu like previous Halo and COD experiences . I felt like I could get more involved with the guys I was with without having to use a forum site. That and the movement actually made me feel like a Spartan. There is definitely a skill gap in 5 that just doesn’t really exist in the same capacity as other Halo games
In my own personal opinion I think the Halo 5 multiplayer was very underrated. I really enjoyed the gameplay of it. Being faster paced playing and it was a really big change for Halo even if it wasn’t what the fan base wanted. This Halo I was the most skilled at and my friends and I would play competitive playlists during middle school/ highschool. I just really enjoyed the time I had with my friend mostly. Consistently winning and having a great time. Now I look back as an adult and realize all the hate it got was from older generation halo player while kids like me were eating it up.
I've played Halo since the first released, and 5 is my favorite. The community just hated anything that wasn't exactly what they wanted, and now we have Infinite thanks to them.
@@Menorahdude Infinite's still better. Only issues it has are bad bugs and lack of optimization, and the gameplay could be less Halo 5-ish. 5 still had tons of bugs though, probably more than Infinite. Must suck to not like the better version of the same game, lmao.
Yes thank you finally someone said it. I always said Halo 5 was a test ground for new Halo games. You would have thought that, based on Halo 5's mechanics, that Infinite would have given us ADS for all guns. But noooo. 343 is so scared to adapt to the 2020s.
@@noobbotgaming2173 no the issue was the game just looked like halo trying to be cod since cod advance warfare and their future games was all going towards the future style movement. Than halo 5 decided let's try to do the same
@@d30n6 This mentality is why Halo is dead. A friend told me the other day people our age don't play Halo anymore. We played it back in the day and now most people in their mid 20s-early 30s have a kid. And when they play a game they want to make the most of an hour or two a day. You need to bring new players in the game. Fresh blood. Halo's been stagnant since Reach. The root of why Infinite failed is the core gameplay isn't relevant anymore. No one plays arena shooters anymore. Even CoD took a page from Battlefield with its rebooted Ground War mode. Halo's new identity should either be 6v6 or 10v10 TDM or Domination with different shooting and movement mechanics. Or it should focus on big 32v32 maps with Halo vehicles and Conquest modes. Halo has the assets. But the people in charge are too lazy and complacent to bring Halo into the 2020s.
Ahhh the good old days. Been here since 5k subs when I played this game so much and wanted to see if people shared my distaste. It’s been amazing seeing the growth of this channel. So much nostalgia with this game
Guardians is where my best friend and I discovered Husky Raid. Will always cherish selectively searching for it in the Action Sack playlist - until it became a dedicated playlist. The chaos, the storming-the-beach feeling, the weapons sandbox, the added variety of maps. Best shooter experience I've had in a long time.
I remember the first 3-4 months of the pandemic the boys and I played a bunch of H5. This game holds a ton of fond memories even if it’s not the best halo
After slogging through Infinite's multiplayer, Halo 5's multiplayer was a surprising breath of fresh air. Far from perfect in my opinion but definitely a fun time all around.
@@GallowayJesseYes, and progression and cosmetics are big parts of why people enjoy games lol. Everyone enjoys the gameplay, but you need more than that to keep players playing.
After playing Infinite I’m glad to know I never waisted my time or money on Guardians, even when toned down the mechanics still screw with map control and the sandbox’s balance.
Halo 5 felt too sweaty to be enjoyable most of the time. However, the social playlists were awesome. I loved just messing around in BTB Fiesta and Super Fiesta. Those “party style” playlists should always be a core playlist on tap.
Halo 5 is still my favorite PvP, followed very closely by Reach. The gameplay struck a perfect balance of fast paced run and gun but also still having those long gunfights that Halo is known for. I think a lot of people just hated it cuz it was different honestly. I think they played the campaign, hated it, then either never bothered with the pvp or only played 1 match, decided they didn't wanna learn the new mechanics and left.
No, people hated it because it played nothing like halo, because jumped on the advanced movement bandwagon the year after Advanced Warfare came out, because map control and vehicles were heavily deemphasized as a result of the advanced movement, and because universal ADS and bonus headshot damage turned basically every gun into a precision weapon and ruined the sandbox.
IMO may be more to well. I Love reach but many did not, saw it as a downgrade Then you have halo 4, which People liked even Less then Reach. That's already 2 games people didn't like in a row. Then you had MCC which was a colossal fuck up. It promised people the ability to play their old favorites but it was busted. Then You have all those years of peoples hopes being crushed, then you end up with 5. With so long a time of people being angry then you introduce another sequal thats even Less like the older titles. It reached a breaking point. People were already sour'd then they just, gave up. Halo 5 may have been good but it had too much negative rep built up over the years. So any good it may have had was buried.
@@Slender_Man_186 Saying H5 playing nothing like Halo is asinine at best. The "Advanced movement" Was just a short range dodge button and something that held you in place while aiming. Vehicles and power weapons were even more oppressive in H5 than they were in previous Halo games, making map control infinitely more important, almost to a detrimental degree to be honest, and ADS barely increased the functionality of non precision weapons. Maybe a slight increase to their range but they were still easily outclassed by any precision weapon hip fire. If you couldn't beat an AR from range with a magnum, you just weren't good at the game tbh.
@@Gorrfinger “ADS barely increased functionality” are you high? Even in Infinite this is still the problem, the AR has no right being a valid option at mid range, it’s supposed to be a close range spray and pray used to secure melee kills. In 5 the AR, BR, DMR, SMG, SAW, Magnum, Carbine, Storm Rifle, and Light Rifle are all hitscan, all do bonus headshot damage, and all have a scope that makes them effective out to mid, why? Infinite has the same issue with the AR, BR, Commando, Sidekick, and soon the Bandit Rifle too when that gets added. It’s not about performance, it’s about weapon roles.
Halo 5 and xbox one was my re -introduction into gaming after an 8+ year break. I have a lot of special memories with this game. Still haven't found a multiplayer game that's filled that hole. Made tons of friends. I wanted to Infinite to be that so bad lol It's depressing that I can't remember the last time I found new friends to game with that I don't already know in person
Im just loving Infinite Training mode with Bots. You can choose the bots difficulty for movement and shooting ability separately - which is so so cool. They also do really cool stuff real players do like when they have the Sword they use the grapple hook to hook onto you and one shot you. Ive wanted clever bots for Halo since H3 so its an absolute dream for me.
Halo 5 multiplayer, specifically the social playlists such as Husky Raid and Infection(The community maps where you progress through the map) were the closest we have had to the old Halo games. They were all enjoyable and they had a million weapon variants that were fun to experiment with. The weapon and vehicle sandbox is rhe biggest gripe I have with Halo Infinite. They were so petty as to scrap everything good from Halo 5 and completely reinvent Halo yet again. It actually makes me angry that they were so stupid.
I think Halo 5s post launch consistent content drops every month was definitely underrated and under appreciated. Edit: I’m not saying bringing in features that should’ve been there day one is praiseworthy. Besides everything in Halo 5s updates that should’ve been there day one, they were pouring content into Halo 5 monthly. Wether it was new weapons, armor, vehicles, maps, you name it. They were making sure we got it at a reasonable pace. Thats what my original comment was about.
@@justiceforjoggers2897 its funny because Infinite is doing the same shit just at a much slower pace. Like did you two not think i didn’t know that before making the comment? It doesn’t change the fact that they were on it a lot quicker with Halo 5 then they are with Halo Infinite. That was the main point of my original comment.
@@germguy6884 Ya see, it's because not everyone thinks basic bitch updates adding simple features from almost every game before it in what would otherwise have been content complete, is anything remotely praiseworthy.
While the post launch support and constant updates were great, you gotta remember they said they absolutely worked themselves to the bone to get all of that out. If I recall correctly they said they would never push themselves that hard again due to all the burn out. That (amongst other things) is most likely why they've dropped the ball so hard with Infinite.
They launched a game with half the content of reach and somehow still struggled to get the rest of it out over the next year. Incompetence at its finest
They’ve already outsourced a lot of labor for infinite, so lack of man hours is pointedly NEVER the problem. What really held them back was lack of direction, shitty management, and poor organization and communication over the course of the development process. The only difference is they used hefty amounts of crunch to cover their ass post-launch in 5, and now that they’ve sworn off of crunch, they somehow thought it was a good idea to NOT clean up their pre-launch development process to compensate. In other words, it all comes down to incompetence from the higher ups who continue to roll their shit downhill. The lesson here isn’t that crutch is the only way to provide decent live service support, it’s that they have no choice BUT to rely on crutches such as crunch when they refuse to address *chronic management incompetence* that has fucked over every one of their game launches after Halo 4. Parroting 343’s marketing team’s attempts to obfuscate this fact by channeling sympathy for the devs(who wouldn’t be in that crunch-or-flop situation if they had competent oversight) does not solve the problem.
You really disliked the main menu theme to Halo 4? I quite enjoyed it! It gave that sense of loneliness and isolation that Halo 4 gives off in its first mission and a few others through the story. It was also a good change of pace without feeling to off from halos identity. I feel like id be able to hear it in any other Halo game without it feeling forced.
I'll put it this way, ii forgot Halo 4s title theme was even different from the other ones It definitely isn't bad sounding though, but it isnt super memorable IMO
OG breakout was my shit!!!! 4v4 no shield, one flag, one life, 5 rounds, and a fucking smg to start! You would start out sprinting on a launch pad…the maps were sooo badass!!!!!!
Honestly I always loved warzone, and warzone firefight. It's what I played most in halo 5. I really wish we had a multiplayer PvE mode in halo infinite. I've heard they are adding forge features for PvE enemies and I'm really excited to see where that goes.
It breaks my heart that I struggle to find h5 games now. This was by far my favorite multiplayer competitive experience in gaming. I always thought halo 2 would remain my favorite multiplayer game until the day I die, but halo 5 hooked me like no other game before :)
@@andrewscocozza4340 Exactly. The Halo 3 BR is terrible. I can never understand how anyone defends that awful BR. I've been playing since 2001 so it's not the opinion of someone new just trying it out.
The multiplayer was definitely what made Halo 5 shine. The mechanics only made me want to play the game even more since it gave me a reason to come back and learn something new. The only con was the REQ packs, but they were ignorable if you stayed away from Warzone.
Last time I checked, Breakout has become part of the Elimination playlist. I'm glad you noticed its absence. Even if it wasn't completely gone, I never understood why it couldn't stay in a separate playlist. It is by far my favourite competitive game mode in Halo 5 and I still wish they would bring it back for Halo Infinite.
This brings up nostalgia, not just on Halo 5, but the Act Man too. I want to say i first learned about the act man in like 2016? I was in a party with a couple of buddies, we were teens at the time, playing Halo 5. A couple of them were talking about the Act Man, and were jokingly inviting him to a party, but when he surprisingly joined the party, they freaked out. I was like "who tf is this guy?" And was basically just going along with it, acting like i knew who he was (i didn't.) Eventually, the Act Man asked us what we liked about his videos, to which one friend said he liked the comedy, i answered too and said "uh... I like the quality!" And it definitely sounded like he didn't believe it lmao. Little did I know, years later my on the spot lie would still be spot on.
I absolutely love Halo 5's gameplay in multiplayer. My dream is to see some sort of director's cut where they redo the campaign and improve the multiplayer.
For me, the Achilles armor was a great addition to the game. Grinding with your team for such a unique armor piece was awesome. Never spent any money on the game though, and that’s why getting it made it so rewarding. I was part of spartan company Prevalence!
Halo 5 was the first game I ever got to play online for and I absolutely (and still do) love it with all my heart. I was there for almost the entire lifecycle, and I have countless memories of friends hoping on and playing Warzone or custom games way late into the night laughing our butts off. I remember being ecstatic when I got Onyx rank, I even vividly remember my first killionare. So many people hate it, but Halo 5 will always be my favorite game of all time because of how much it meant to me
Yes it was underrated. I had a LOT of fun in warzone assault. I think the requisition variants of classic weapons with cool functions was amazing. It was only held back by the predatory nature of the req system as a whole. The expanded movement options too were really neat. I loved being able to quickly back out of a situation I may have barged into without thinking. also, you get the thumbs up for the flying circus alone
Honestly the extreme over-mobility that allowed you to shut your brain off and play with zero strategy was what hurt this game the most. We want halo, not Call of Duty. And this game really, really wanted to be Call of Duty.
I absolutely adored Halo 5 multiplsyer. Gameplay was incredibly tight and rewarded skill. The pistol was such an interesting change of pace but the focus towards competitive drove most of my friends who loved Reach and 3 away. Action Sack and BTB brought them back eventually though! I also recently made a little halo 5 montage as well but idk if I'm allowed to share it.
I actually miss a lot of the weapons and vehicles from this game. The Ultra variants of Covenant vehicles, the AA Wraith, the Phaeton, the plasma caster. I would have loved to have seen all these again in Infinite.
Infinite is getting better the new season is enjoyable. Ive been forging and hosting customs successfully and having fun. Couple bugs here and there lol
Im not going to lie, as someone who did finish the Achilles grind with a spartan company and probably did it within the first ten to twenty company, it was EXCITING to see groups you knew where a threat. A few from my group didnt pull larger recks till we saw reason to. Then it was all out war. When I saw Whisky Company, I knew it was about to be a fucking blood bath. It was both hell and fun.
I’ve been saying this since 2015 it was my first halo multiplayer like online, and I absolutely loved it and so far no other game has gotten close to as much fun I had on that MP
Yes I was in a Spartan company. SKR and we were one of the first company’s to get the full set of Achilles which made it so much more fun to play. Wish infinite had something like that to work towards.
Act Man, it took me 5 years to find this out but did you know if you use the right stick and hold the same direction on the D pad it will skip pages on the customization menu, not sure why but it’s crazy that it works
343i needs to hire you as a consultant man, seriously. I think they have the talent to pull it off, but like you said it's a culmination of some bad execution on great ideas that ends up making them faceplant. This is my favorite FPS franchise. Really sad to see Halo fallen so low and I hope it will rise to the top again one day.
I liked the multiplayer in this game, it didn't require that you shoot someone 500 times before they actually die unlike the other Halo games. I still like the other Halo multiplayers though
I would love to see it come to PC or MCC in general if nothing more than to see what sort of life the Halo modding community could breathe into this. I think halo 5 suffered from trying to appease everyone with everything and anything they could think of and that tends to back fire.
I've always wanted halo 5 on pc as a separate port from the mcc because that game is HUGE. The main reason is the fov, after playing halo on pc I just have to have an fov slider for it. That and I think mouse and keyboard would be nice on H5.
Suffering? Did you play Halo 5 MP and Warzone? Had just as much as when i used to play H3 and Reach back in the day. Customs browser made it even better
@@YodaOnABender Yeah but everything else kind of sucks, even the multiplayer had limited customization and microtransactions , so it’s like, fun but can’t blame anyone If they find it insufferable.
@@hachelyd_i3232 it's more about the mechanics than sandbox. Sandbox was great but being prohibited from regenerating shields while running? Stupid. Hovering in the air while aiming? Stupid. The insanely fast running,sliding,Spartan dashing and ground pounding just didn't feel like halo. It felt like something completely different. That's one reason why I'm one of the people who couldn't enjoy it at all. Because even as much as customization sucked,I got the mark vi from MCC so I was satisfied but the gameplay itself was awful. And warzone just felt like P2W because the more req packs you had,the more firepower you had
Seems you haven't played too much Warzone. I haven't bought a single REQ pack and I had a ton of Phaetons. You always get packs for playing well and they always contained something awesome. I played til max Level 152 without paying a dime and fun unlocking 100 times the stuff I unlocked in Infinite. Ok, that's a low bar, you can barely unlock anything in Infinite apart from the stupid Battlepass that you have to pay extra for. Which you didn't have to in Halo 5. Would have been nice if you had mentioned that. But I expect too much from you. "Boohoo I get REQ packs gifted and don't get the stuff I want"
Req pack isn't a problem if you start opening silver packs from the start and collect all the armor, weapons loadout, and abilities then you can start with gold pack to get better items
5:55 I know exactly what you're talking about. You cant microadjust your crosshair so you're forced to strafe to aim. i swear 343 did this on purpose to gimp veteran players. It wasn't like that in the beta and I was shocked when i first played it.
Ok, I get it, halo 5’s campaign, the list of bad things goes on for a while. But I actually enjoyed the multiplayer. The weapon sandbox was massive. You could make new weapons in forge, like a machine gun that fired sniper rounds. I loved that and I wish 343 implemented that into infinite.
It made me laugh when you brought up the Achilles armor as I remember there was a time when some (or maybe it was just one, I don't remember) spartan companies would be grinding for that armor, and then when they were just about to get it, the leader would kick someone out and add their friend in so they could get the armor without doing anything lol. It was so screwed up but it's kinda funny when you look back at the crazy things people would do to get rare stuff in Halo games.
Lol I remember people used to report every player they saw with Achilles armor because they were salty about getting spawn-camped in warzone lmao For a while I used to get team-killed alot every time I wore Achilles 😂
Happened to me I was going to be one of the first to get it then I got kicked as soon as the company got the helmet I was pissed but ended up grinding till I got it again lol
I think the reason why halo 5s weapon and vehicle variants never came to infinite is because there is “no place” for it in infinite. Halo 5 had the perfect environment for wacky and “outside of the box” variants with its flagship gamemode Warzone and its on demand requisition system, but infinite has nothing like that. Also in my opinion I think 343 was very pressured to stick to the Bungie formula for infinite, so much so that some of 343s great, but original, ideas got scrapped, like weapon/vehicle variants
My favorite halo 5 memory is me in a CTF BTB game where I was swearing like a sailor sweating my balls off in the most hard-fought victory I can recall. The game really is a damn sweatfest, but shit, Hard fought victories are the sweetest.
The maps were actually made with the advanced movement in mind. *cough* Infinite Warfare *cough* It has the most weapons of any multiplayer in the series. That made super fiesta a BEAST. Amazing forge allowed us to have some of the best maps ever. The general sandbox was just massive and it felt like a bigger love letter to the fans than Infinite
ive been screaming this into the void for yeaaaars! when everyone was trashing it(sometimes rightly so). h5g might pale in comparison to old halos in some ways but halo 5 mp, warzone & customs was always such a great time.
i would easily play halo 5 multiplayer on pc if they launched it, i have so many memories of halo 5 custom games and firefight. easily my favorite multiplayer
I never played a Halo in multiplayer like Halo 5. The multiplayer was near perfect. The warzone was so refreshing. Was grinding that thing 24/7. The SR rank system was nice and it was hard to hit max rank not like Halo 4. And unlike Halo 3, You can loose a game and still earn xp so it's not as sweaty as you say I think. Arena, yes that can be right, like all arena type games in all Halo games. But Warzone... Man that was chillzone. Loved it. The REQ pack system was nice too. For 2 things. First, you can't never unlock the same thing twice. Second, you don't need to pay to have the top weapons. It was nice grinding that game and opening REQ packs knowing I will have something brand new everytime. The grind was nice in Halo 5. I miss it actually. Anyway, see you on the battleground spartan! Halo MCC it is for me for now.
As a CQB guy I enjoyed the multi-player thanks to the movement abilities. Boost in and melee someone then finish them with the smg and boost away. During war zone I would hold one of the bases myself most of the time and pile up kills like crazy.
H5 had by far the best multiplayer of any halo game The most polished most complete experience that could recreate any previous halo game playlist Most incredible forge customization War zone fire fight etc insane! H5 is still better than infinite
I’ve said it and I’ll say it again, Halo 4s campaign was good, they still had critical elements of old bungie campaigns and it is definitely better in story and gameplay to 5 and infinite, but we threw a fit over it because we had no idea how bad it would get, and halo 5s multiplayer was incredibly fun and they added so many cool features, but that too was driven into the floor by the expectations bungie left behind, and because of that were left with a 343 who’s scared to try the things that they’ve already done and that have worked, because of feedback from a fan base who was still reeling from the loss of bungie
After playing Infinite for a while I decided to get Halo 5 to see how it was. I was investing a lot into Halo around 2022 and I thought it would be cool to try out the one halo game I hadn't gotten yet. Got a preowned copy for a few bucks and gave it a whirl. Honestly I had so much fun with Halo 5's multiplayer. I loved playing Warzone Firefight. A good way to unwind if you were getting destroyed in multiplayer. The progression felt infinitely more rewarding than Infinite. Played it non-stop for 3 months. In my opinion, Halo 5's multiplayer overall stands up better against Halo Infinite's to this day.
As someone who hops into old games from time to time, its just a nice breath of fresh air to play something classic. Most of those old pc games had solid gunplay, and really funny movement exploits that make them a blast to hop back into. The speed of those classic fps games before controller became the norm for shooters is something you really just don't get from new shooters anymore.
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The Halo Cycle is real, huh? Halo 5 is kind of underrated in some ways but DEFINITELY NOT in many others. What do you think? What ways was it better or worse than Infinite?
Make a video on playable elites some time bro and why they should return to halo.
Add Chips Dubbo as a playable character
Halo infinite was fine mp. But halo 5? Halo 5 mp is one of the best pvp games ever, unironically. Especially super Fiesta, criminally underrated and overhated
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It’s hard to believe one company made 3 totally different games for the same IP and didn’t build on any of the positive parts.
Yeah it blows my mind lol
Bad leadership in a nutshell
@@juhanpoeka incompetence*
@@YCOSKUN true
And yet still infinite is really fun to play and feels good.
Halo 5s multiplayer is super fun IMO, it may have problems but the sheer fun i had with my mates was more than enough
Totally agree.
it's a great multiplayer, some would say (me included) Halo 5 is generally a great game!
Just not a good _Halo_ game, y'know?
The only thing that would have made it better was removing Spartan Charge unless it was a social mode
@@hachelyd_i3232 Remove all the enhanced mobility crap = real Halo game.
@@AFunkyFella exactly. People calling 343 the worst developer for Halo 5 is unfair because it is a very well thought out and ambitious game. It's just again, like you said, not the right direction for Halo.
Husky Raid in Halo 5 was one of the best experiences I've had in Halo MP. Absolute chaos on narrow maps was crazy with the size of the weapon sandbox.
Still play it to this day. It's still fun
Husky Raid is the reason I became Competitive when it comes to CTF
I agree
@@ZealotKnight same
It got even more chaotic when you played it in super fiesta
Halo 5 mp was definitely different from the past halo games, but I had a lot of fun with it. The biggest let down with infinite was that the guns felt alright in 5, but in infinite it seems like half your shots don’t register.
There also only about 7 guns in infinite
@@ArmageddonPhysics 4 of which are trash, one is an explosive, one is a pistol and the other is an assault rifle. I'll stick to literally any Halo game that isn't Infinite.
@@megaman37456 exactly that’s what I’m saying. No weapon variety at all
@@ArmageddonPhysics that's legit my main problem with infinite, like I can ignore pretty much all the other issues it has because playing the game is still kinda fun, but there is quite literally 4 useful (non power) weapons, maybe 5 if you get good at using the commando
God I love halo 5 multiplayer and I wish I could still finds games today :(
Really missing the warzone modes in infinite, That was my favorite thing in Halo 5
War zone was criminally underrated
War zone was the best! So easy to enjoy at all levels
I still play it
warzone was wasted potential
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We'll wake him, when we need him.
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Halo 5 gave me a friend group I could never replace, and we've stuck with eachother for 3+ years, it may not have been a perfect game but it's certainly one I love.
The multiplayer was definitely my favorite once it was content complete and combined with the forge and customs it really was something.
It’s a good game. It’s just an awful Halo game.
If it launched as it’s own title it would have done fine. But it called itself halo while doing as much as it could to separate itself from Halo as possible (changed the art style, the music, the gameplay, the physics, and downgraded tons of basic features). It’s like going into Pizza Hut and the staff telling you they only serve Burgers.
@@lilbubz2803 very well said.
Can't argue with this. This is what online gaming is all about. I will say though, it used to be a lot better before every game turned to the onlyfans model. I think we can get back there one day.
Same, played on xbox constantly lol, played prison, death runs etc
I loved Super Fiesta it was such a fun and chaotic casual mode
Still waiting for halo infinite to capture the that chaos I loved about 5. Honestly, I gave up on halo multiplayer after 2. I thought 3 and reach were mids. halo 4 was better than reach, but still mids. And halo 5 took a long time, but the last five years were incredible.
I still play husky raid a lot. One of the quintessential halo experiences imo
I'm still playing the shit out of super fiesta party.
Super fiesta is the only playlist you can still hop on and find a game in a minute. Great times.
It's absolutely fascinating how 343i never ever learns from their mistakes.
Just like overwatch
You can make halo 6
they dont learn from their mistakes but dont learn from the things they do right either
Halo 5 beta was way better the lightning was godly and they f it up at release
@@Row-and-Pizza-VRso far community forge maps have outperformed most 343 maps, so…
Not patching the weapon pad glitch in guardians was such an incredible move on their part. I feel like so many developers would have but 343 saw that it was funny and had a lot of potential for players to just have fun with so they left it alone. Never thought I'd commend a developers for not doing their job but I actually really appreciated that one. So many fun times with me and my buddies came from that glitch
I haven't played any halo since 4 came out so I do know about the mp maps but on the og Xbox and halo 2 you could do the special things like crouch on a rail and shot in a corner or stuff like that and it would launch you to the top of the map.
I used to do it on lockout playing swat(headshots)
I'd decimate the other tesm.
Good video, just a little side note about breakout "not being in the game", it actually still is in matchmaking under the "Elimination" playlist in ranked. Which combined breakout 1.0 from the game's launch, breakout 2.0 which was the updated version with shotties and shields, and then the community made mode extermination. Glad to see you still have some appreciation for this game over infinite.
Why is it so hard to to get into lobbies nowadays tho?
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@@DevilSlayer502 game is dogshit thats y
@@R0gueIsHere Basically MCC exists if you want the actual Halo games and it's fixed enough to be playable now. Infinite also exists if you want a newer Halo (although tbh I'm not sure it's much better than 5 considering how dry it is...) What hurts even more for 5 is that it's not on PC, so however few of us PC Halo fans there are, we won't be there to drive up numbers.
@@R0gueIsHere that’s not why and you know it. 5 has one of the best multiplayers. Second off certain lobbies are empty and some like infection is full which also refutes that claim. Put your bias hate to 5 aside and if you have an actual answer THEN reply to me
My biggest issue in Warzone was that the bosses were last hit kill for the points. When bosses died it should of became a King of the Hill objective to score the points so one guy across the map can't snipe your boss kill from you after you ammo dumped the boss
I dont know how else they would've balanced it, because if it were based on the most damage dealt by team, people wouldnt bother going after the bosses.
@@danjjjatest I've never felt like it was a damage thing. I've have plenty of bosses snipe stolen from me across the map from me. Adding a King of the Hill objective after boss defeat would make it more about map control. It can be a quick capture like 5 seconds. Heroes of the Storm has the same boss concept. I don't see how adding a second objective to claim the boss kill would of made people not go for bosses anymore. Hell I practically ignored bosses in warzone except for trying to get the last hit.
Just looked up 'Warzone boss' and cant find a single citation on it. there isn't any fuckin warzone boss lol.
@@ThaRawLeasM there were heapx of bosses in warzone? like the giant grunt mech
@@40kfanatics ive only played wzm, so i youtubed warzone bosses.. nothing came up
Wow I didn't expect to see myself in your clips that you saved for this video. (6:37 - 8:30 Ryth) I will always believe that although broken, Halo 5 PvP made me stick around due to how chaotic fun warzone was. Forge maps was also always a blast to play like the huge zombie maps, and it's cool to be immortalized in a game with dispite plenty of issues, did have its time to shine for plenty of us.
Hahaha nice! Yeah I must've had the footage for over 6 years
actually met someone from this game in a custom match.. we lived in the same state and decided to meet after several months of playing.. now we’ve been in a relationship for 4 years and are in college now working on our life’s together.. this game will always have that special place in my heart with all the memories I had with it!
Halo 5 got bro laid
I remember playing elimination with my cousin and getting our ass whooped every round
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@@cophater298no your not. He ded
@@Ghostman223 well our Washington is still alive. RvB s19 baby
Halo 5 is the only game I've ever played where I felt there was too much content. Take a break for a few days and there's two new maps in rotation, weapon pickups changed so I was always having to change up how I played the map. Underrated game.
You could unlock all items for free by playing the game too. Two warzone matches got you a gold pack, and while it was random what you got from the pack, getting that pack with your hard earned req points and getting armor was so much more satisfying than paying $20 for colors.
Alright hold up you know how much armors and amor duplicates there were that almost looked the same? But rarely got it because it was in a randomize lootbox that rarely gave you armor but alot of random warzone weapons especially mongoose and carbines?
I like H5 mp too but at that point I'd rather spend 20$ then grind for a hour just to get a wasp.
Imma keep it 100 and admit I just decided to pay for the reach helmet bundle lol
@@daBears06 lol i got the reach helmet bundle for free when infinite got announced
True but for weapons it just wasn't maintainable.
I remember saving them up for a year, and I blew past them in a few months by playing warzone exclusively. You basically use up more gold packs than you gain them.
Honestly the Warzone Firefight and Warzone PvPvE stuff was super fun and a very cool new game mode. Sad it didn't return but fun modes in 4 like Dominion, Extraction, Ricocet, and Regicide didn't return in 5 so yeah.
Regicide technically did but it was for a limited time
warzone was the greatest thing 343 did honestly
Warzone sucked.
@@Johnspartan296 Mad cuz bad
I'd say warzone replaced dominion, but it would've been nice to have more of the dominion elements in warzone. The fortification of bases and turrets and stuff.
Breakout is a game mode in the Elimination playlist along with Extermination so it’s not gone. Both are some of my favorite game modes that I hope they bring back.
Black Halo what’s that, Keith David as Master Chief?
While I know it's not the same & I would want H5 breakout back, Attrition is what became of it in infinite. Those elimination/breakout ranked matches were some of the sweeties 😅. Until 343 ruined it with Breakout 2.0 🫤
The gunplay and movement in guardians was really fun. It was fun going sweat mode in this game. I still prefer classic halo but 5 is fun to go back to once in a while
I actually enjoyed H5’s multiplayer the most. Fun, fast paced and flowed really well. Very satisfying to play! And let’s not forget it’s wide variety of weaponry.
That was fun actually.
I must have been playing a different game but I only remember the magnum being used 90% of the time.
Felt like this MP was so underrated halo 5 was my first halo and made me want to go back and play the other halo games and introduced me to this channel and Luke the notable when looking for halo content
What did you think of the other Halos since you started with 5?
That they were great games personally I like halo 2 and reach multiplayer loved odst campaign and firefight
Same here, I'd played the other halos once or twice but after Halo 5 I've been fully in the franchise, honestly really miss h5s mp
Yeah but when you had UA-cam channels shitting on it constantly “wHy iS theRe sPrinT!!!??&&” it’ll eventually sour. Didn’t help with the false marketing either and bland launch.
Breakout was my jam. It felt so good having a goal to work towards (Champion). the top 200 was super competitive and made some really good friends and made for some super intense moments. ultimately landed champion 12, and had champion 1 rank for a couple days. Miss those days.
For me, Halo 5 still has some of the best multiplayer in Halo. Yes, it changed the formula a lot but I found it much more enjoyable than Reach and Halo 4. I also thought the spartan abilities were pretty cool. And I don't want to forget it actually has an enjoyable Infection, something Infinite still doesn't have. And Warzone is one of the best things in this game.
I will always remember Halo 5 because Spartan Companies were it’s clan-equivalent system was actually official, not something vague and impromptu like previous Halo and COD experiences . I felt like I could get more involved with the guys I was with without having to use a forum site. That and the movement actually made me feel like a Spartan. There is definitely a skill gap in 5 that just doesn’t really exist in the same capacity as other Halo games
In my own personal opinion I think the Halo 5 multiplayer was very underrated. I really enjoyed the gameplay of it. Being faster paced playing and it was a really big change for Halo even if it wasn’t what the fan base wanted. This Halo I was the most skilled at and my friends and I would play competitive playlists during middle school/ highschool. I just really enjoyed the time I had with my friend mostly. Consistently winning and having a great time. Now I look back as an adult and realize all the hate it got was from older generation halo player while kids like me were eating it up.
I've played Halo since the first released, and 5 is my favorite. The community just hated anything that wasn't exactly what they wanted, and now we have Infinite thanks to them.
@@Menorahdude Infinite's still better. Only issues it has are bad bugs and lack of optimization, and the gameplay could be less Halo 5-ish. 5 still had tons of bugs though, probably more than Infinite. Must suck to not like the better version of the same game, lmao.
@@drmigly5 mp is way more fun than Infinite. Campaign is better too, though that isn't saying much. Infinite is mid through and through.
@@Menorahdude Said no one ever
I guess I'm a gen Z at heart
In a lot of ways Halo 5 wasn’t an inherently bad multiplayer game, but the way it was monetised and built upon really soured the experience
Yes thank you finally someone said it. I always said Halo 5 was a test ground for new Halo games. You would have thought that, based on Halo 5's mechanics, that Infinite would have given us ADS for all guns. But noooo. 343 is so scared to adapt to the 2020s.
@@noobbotgaming2173 Then it’s not halo then. It’s a sci-fi call of duty game or other fps titles.
I always thought it was a super satisfying fun game but the monetization was retarded
@@noobbotgaming2173 no the issue was the game just looked like halo trying to be cod since cod advance warfare and their future games was all going towards the future style movement. Than halo 5 decided let's try to do the same
@@d30n6 This mentality is why Halo is dead. A friend told me the other day people our age don't play Halo anymore. We played it back in the day and now most people in their mid 20s-early 30s have a kid. And when they play a game they want to make the most of an hour or two a day.
You need to bring new players in the game. Fresh blood. Halo's been stagnant since Reach. The root of why Infinite failed is the core gameplay isn't relevant anymore. No one plays arena shooters anymore. Even CoD took a page from Battlefield with its rebooted Ground War mode.
Halo's new identity should either be 6v6 or 10v10 TDM or Domination with different shooting and movement mechanics. Or it should focus on big 32v32 maps with Halo vehicles and Conquest modes. Halo has the assets. But the people in charge are too lazy and complacent to bring Halo into the 2020s.
Act Man playing Halo 5 twice in recent times is bizarre. Mad respect to you in order to take on objective and analytical approaches.
And now we're gonna focus on other games now that I've cleaned my hands of this hahaha
@@TheActMan Ahh the payoff shall be immense!
Ahhh the good old days. Been here since 5k subs when I played this game so much and wanted to see if people shared my distaste. It’s been amazing seeing the growth of this channel. So much nostalgia with this game
Time really is a flat circle
I hated how the first halo game I played was halo 4
Been here since 15k brotha i feel you
Guardians is where my best friend and I discovered Husky Raid.
Will always cherish selectively searching for it in the Action Sack playlist - until it became a dedicated playlist.
The chaos, the storming-the-beach feeling, the weapons sandbox, the added variety of maps. Best shooter experience I've had in a long time.
Yep. Husky Raid singlehandedly kept me coming back to Halo. Along with the Infection maps the community made.
the variety of weapons and REQs in h5 was awesome. Hoping infinite adds things like the Splaser, Nade launcher, plasma rifle etc
Its halo infinite so probably not
Still waiting
I remember the first 3-4 months of the pandemic the boys and I played a bunch of H5. This game holds a ton of fond memories even if it’s not the best halo
H5 was such a solid gameplay experience, we hit Onyx with a friend during the pandemic
After slogging through Infinite's multiplayer, Halo 5's multiplayer was a surprising breath of fresh air. Far from perfect in my opinion but definitely a fun time all around.
Infinites multiplayer is perfect now. What it needs is a reason to continue to play it
@@bro3217
The reason to continue playing should be enjoying the game. Progression & cosmetics as a reason to keep playing is insane
At least infinite actually feel like halo though
@@GallowayJesseYes, and progression and cosmetics are big parts of why people enjoy games lol. Everyone enjoys the gameplay, but you need more than that to keep players playing.
@@bro3217 huh?? What about it is 'perfect'? Desync alone makes most matches unsavory.
I've never played Guardians but I did play infinite and seeing all of these features that 5 got honestly fills me with envy.
It makes me disappointed that infinite hasn’t gotten the really good features. Especially the crazy weapon variants that 5 had
After playing Infinite I’m glad to know I never waisted my time or money on Guardians, even when toned down the mechanics still screw with map control and the sandbox’s balance.
The ground pound was so goddamn fun and you can't deny it. Slamming into a ghost like superman is some of the coolest shit ever
Destiny did it better
Halo 5 felt too sweaty to be enjoyable most of the time. However, the social playlists were awesome. I loved just messing around in BTB Fiesta and Super Fiesta. Those “party style” playlists should always be a core playlist on tap.
Halo 5 is still my favorite PvP, followed very closely by Reach. The gameplay struck a perfect balance of fast paced run and gun but also still having those long gunfights that Halo is known for. I think a lot of people just hated it cuz it was different honestly. I think they played the campaign, hated it, then either never bothered with the pvp or only played 1 match, decided they didn't wanna learn the new mechanics and left.
You mean there was new mechanics...I didn't notice!
No, people hated it because it played nothing like halo, because jumped on the advanced movement bandwagon the year after Advanced Warfare came out, because map control and vehicles were heavily deemphasized as a result of the advanced movement, and because universal ADS and bonus headshot damage turned basically every gun into a precision weapon and ruined the sandbox.
IMO may be more to well. I Love reach but many did not, saw it as a downgrade Then you have halo 4, which People liked even Less then Reach.
That's already 2 games people didn't like in a row. Then you had MCC which was a colossal fuck up. It promised people the ability to play their old favorites but it was busted.
Then You have all those years of peoples hopes being crushed, then you end up with 5. With so long a time of people being angry then you introduce another sequal thats even Less like the older titles. It reached a breaking point. People were already sour'd then they just, gave up. Halo 5 may have been good but it had too much negative rep built up over the years. So any good it may have had was buried.
@@Slender_Man_186 Saying H5 playing nothing like Halo is asinine at best. The "Advanced movement" Was just a short range dodge button and something that held you in place while aiming. Vehicles and power weapons were even more oppressive in H5 than they were in previous Halo games, making map control infinitely more important, almost to a detrimental degree to be honest, and ADS barely increased the functionality of non precision weapons. Maybe a slight increase to their range but they were still easily outclassed by any precision weapon hip fire. If you couldn't beat an AR from range with a magnum, you just weren't good at the game tbh.
@@Gorrfinger “ADS barely increased functionality” are you high? Even in Infinite this is still the problem, the AR has no right being a valid option at mid range, it’s supposed to be a close range spray and pray used to secure melee kills. In 5 the AR, BR, DMR, SMG, SAW, Magnum, Carbine, Storm Rifle, and Light Rifle are all hitscan, all do bonus headshot damage, and all have a scope that makes them effective out to mid, why? Infinite has the same issue with the AR, BR, Commando, Sidekick, and soon the Bandit Rifle too when that gets added. It’s not about performance, it’s about weapon roles.
Halo 5 multiplayer was my guilty pleasure for a year. It was pretty fun when they added forge and custom games was actually pretty creative
Halo 5 and xbox one was my re -introduction into gaming after an 8+ year break. I have a lot of special memories with this game. Still haven't found a multiplayer game that's filled that hole. Made tons of friends. I wanted to Infinite to be that so bad lol
It's depressing that I can't remember the last time I found new friends to game with that I don't already know in person
That’s because Xbox gutted social features across the board to protect you from no-no bad peepee words
Im just loving Infinite Training mode with Bots. You can choose the bots difficulty for movement and shooting ability separately - which is so so cool. They also do really cool stuff real players do like when they have the Sword they use the grapple hook to hook onto you and one shot you. Ive wanted clever bots for Halo since H3 so its an absolute dream for me.
Lol, you wanted a bot and look who replied! 😂
Halo 5 multiplayer, specifically the social playlists such as Husky Raid and Infection(The community maps where you progress through the map) were the closest we have had to the old Halo games. They were all enjoyable and they had a million weapon variants that were fun to experiment with. The weapon and vehicle sandbox is rhe biggest gripe I have with Halo Infinite. They were so petty as to scrap everything good from Halo 5 and completely reinvent Halo yet again. It actually makes me angry that they were so stupid.
I think Halo 5s post launch consistent content drops every month was definitely underrated and under appreciated.
Edit: I’m not saying bringing in features that should’ve been there day one is praiseworthy. Besides everything in Halo 5s updates that should’ve been there day one, they were pouring content into Halo 5 monthly. Wether it was new weapons, armor, vehicles, maps, you name it. They were making sure we got it at a reasonable pace. Thats what my original comment was about.
Yes and no. That only counts once the stuff that *should* have been there at launch (such as forge), was already out.
Can't be underrated if the majority of updates were adding content that should have been there at launch.
@@justiceforjoggers2897 its funny because Infinite is doing the same shit just at a much slower pace. Like did you two not think i didn’t know that before making the comment? It doesn’t change the fact that they were on it a lot quicker with Halo 5 then they are with Halo Infinite. That was the main point of my original comment.
@@germguy6884
Ya see, it's because not everyone thinks basic bitch updates adding simple features from almost every game before it in what would otherwise have been content complete, is anything remotely praiseworthy.
Compared to infinite especially. Idk why infinite ditched everything halo 5 did. All the vehicles, enemies, guns. They completely scrappes it.
While the post launch support and constant updates were great, you gotta remember they said they absolutely worked themselves to the bone to get all of that out. If I recall correctly they said they would never push themselves that hard again due to all the burn out. That (amongst other things) is most likely why they've dropped the ball so hard with Infinite.
They launched a game with half the content of reach and somehow still struggled to get the rest of it out over the next year. Incompetence at its finest
Then hire more employees? Releasing content is literally their fucking jobs.
@@JJAB91 I'm not excusing it, I'm just simply pointing out the difference and what they stated.
@@JJAB91 Easier said then done
They’ve already outsourced a lot of labor for infinite, so lack of man hours is pointedly NEVER the problem. What really held them back was lack of direction, shitty management, and poor organization and communication over the course of the development process. The only difference is they used hefty amounts of crunch to cover their ass post-launch in 5, and now that they’ve sworn off of crunch, they somehow thought it was a good idea to NOT clean up their pre-launch development process to compensate.
In other words, it all comes down to incompetence from the higher ups who continue to roll their shit downhill. The lesson here isn’t that crutch is the only way to provide decent live service support, it’s that they have no choice BUT to rely on crutches such as crunch when they refuse to address *chronic management incompetence* that has fucked over every one of their game launches after Halo 4. Parroting 343’s marketing team’s attempts to obfuscate this fact by channeling sympathy for the devs(who wouldn’t be in that crunch-or-flop situation if they had competent oversight) does not solve the problem.
You really disliked the main menu theme to Halo 4? I quite enjoyed it! It gave that sense of loneliness and isolation that Halo 4 gives off in its first mission and a few others through the story. It was also a good change of pace without feeling to off from halos identity. I feel like id be able to hear it in any other Halo game without it feeling forced.
They need to start by stop skipping time and master chief has amnesia
If I recall, the public sentiment to Halo 4's menu theme was sort of negative. I remember I didn't care much for it, but I didn't hate it.
I didn’t hate it, but who tf ever is gonna hum the halo 4 theme song.
I'll put it this way, ii forgot Halo 4s title theme was even different from the other ones
It definitely isn't bad sounding though, but it isnt super memorable IMO
@@deflategate1297 It is hillarious that this is literally at center of the plot in the whole 343i trillogy
OG breakout was my shit!!!! 4v4 no shield, one flag, one life, 5 rounds, and a fucking smg to start! You would start out sprinting on a launch pad…the maps were sooo badass!!!!!!
Honestly I always loved warzone, and warzone firefight. It's what I played most in halo 5. I really wish we had a multiplayer PvE mode in halo infinite. I've heard they are adding forge features for PvE enemies and I'm really excited to see where that goes.
It breaks my heart that I struggle to find h5 games now. This was by far my favorite multiplayer competitive experience in gaming. I always thought halo 2 would remain my favorite multiplayer game until the day I die, but halo 5 hooked me like no other game before :)
SAME! H2, reach, and h5 were my favorites. H3 missed the mark on MP for me, but h5 was fun af.
@@cobaltduu2 same!! I never liked the projectile br tbh, I have a very unpopular h3 opinion lol
@@andrewscocozza4340 Exactly. The Halo 3 BR is terrible. I can never understand how anyone defends that awful BR. I've been playing since 2001 so it's not the opinion of someone new just trying it out.
Good let's hope it stays like that.
@@zachtaylor5312Lead your shots noob.
The multiplayer was definitely what made Halo 5 shine. The mechanics only made me want to play the game even more since it gave me a reason to come back and learn something new. The only con was the REQ packs, but they were ignorable if you stayed away from Warzone.
Ive always loved H5’s multiplayer. Im glad a lot of people are looking back on it more fondly these days.
It's dog water
@@MaxiemumKarnage it’s not that bad it’s actually fun
@@MaxiemumKarnage you’re just trash at it, be honest
@@MaxiemumKarnage thank you for your incredibly insightful reply to my comment.
@@ThePickleMenace420 So is breaking rocks with hammers, but there's better ways to respect one's time
Last time I checked, Breakout has become part of the Elimination playlist. I'm glad you noticed its absence. Even if it wasn't completely gone, I never understood why it couldn't stay in a separate playlist. It is by far my favourite competitive game mode in Halo 5 and I still wish they would bring it back for Halo Infinite.
This brings up nostalgia, not just on Halo 5, but the Act Man too.
I want to say i first learned about the act man in like 2016? I was in a party with a couple of buddies, we were teens at the time, playing Halo 5. A couple of them were talking about the Act Man, and were jokingly inviting him to a party, but when he surprisingly joined the party, they freaked out. I was like "who tf is this guy?" And was basically just going along with it, acting like i knew who he was (i didn't.) Eventually, the Act Man asked us what we liked about his videos, to which one friend said he liked the comedy, i answered too and said "uh... I like the quality!" And it definitely sounded like he didn't believe it lmao.
Little did I know, years later my on the spot lie would still be spot on.
That’s a cool story! Weird to think how much time has passed since those videos! Still the same old Act Man though!
I absolutely love Halo 5's gameplay in multiplayer. My dream is to see some sort of director's cut where they redo the campaign and improve the multiplayer.
You're awesome thank you so much for all the content over the years
For me, the Achilles armor was a great addition to the game. Grinding with your team for such a unique armor piece was awesome. Never spent any money on the game though, and that’s why getting it made it so rewarding. I was part of spartan company Prevalence!
Why can't they do more armor like that? Not necessarily the design but just the simple principle of being rewarded for grinding the game
Halo 5s multiplayer was fantastic imo. I loved the gunplay in ranked games. Warzone was pretty fun at times as well
Halo 5 was the first game I ever got to play online for and I absolutely (and still do) love it with all my heart. I was there for almost the entire lifecycle, and I have countless memories of friends hoping on and playing Warzone or custom games way late into the night laughing our butts off. I remember being ecstatic when I got Onyx rank, I even vividly remember my first killionare. So many people hate it, but Halo 5 will always be my favorite game of all time because of how much it meant to me
Yes it was underrated. I had a LOT of fun in warzone assault. I think the requisition variants of classic weapons with cool functions was amazing. It was only held back by the predatory nature of the req system as a whole. The expanded movement options too were really neat. I loved being able to quickly back out of a situation I may have barged into without thinking.
also, you get the thumbs up for the flying circus alone
Honestly the extreme over-mobility that allowed you to shut your brain off and play with zero strategy was what hurt this game the most. We want halo, not Call of Duty. And this game really, really wanted to be Call of Duty.
I absolutely adored Halo 5 multiplsyer. Gameplay was incredibly tight and rewarded skill. The pistol was such an interesting change of pace but the focus towards competitive drove most of my friends who loved Reach and 3 away.
Action Sack and BTB brought them back eventually though!
I also recently made a little halo 5 montage as well but idk if I'm allowed to share it.
Act Man please do a Why is Mass Effect 2 a Masterpiece video.
my favorite part in mass effect 2 is where 300k batarians get vaporized in a supernova
The weapon sandbox in halo 5 was amazing. Halo Infinite is lacking so many amazing weapons from the series.
I actually miss a lot of the weapons and vehicles from this game. The Ultra variants of Covenant vehicles, the AA Wraith, the Phaeton, the plasma caster. I would have loved to have seen all these again in Infinite.
Infinite is getting better the new season is enjoyable. Ive been forging and hosting customs successfully and having fun. Couple bugs here and there lol
Im not going to lie, as someone who did finish the Achilles grind with a spartan company and probably did it within the first ten to twenty company, it was EXCITING to see groups you knew where a threat. A few from my group didnt pull larger recks till we saw reason to. Then it was all out war. When I saw Whisky Company, I knew it was about to be a fucking blood bath. It was both hell and fun.
I’ve been saying this since 2015 it was my first halo multiplayer like online, and I absolutely loved it and so far no other game has gotten close to as much fun I had on that MP
Honestly, 343 really did a fantastic job when it came to content with Halo 5. It was honestly kind of crazy just HOW MUCH content they pushed out.
Yes I was in a Spartan company. SKR and we were one of the first company’s to get the full set of Achilles which made it so much more fun to play. Wish infinite had something like that to work towards.
Act Man, it took me 5 years to find this out but did you know if you use the right stick and hold the same direction on the D pad it will skip pages on the customization menu, not sure why but it’s crazy that it works
343i needs to hire you as a consultant man, seriously. I think they have the talent to pull it off, but like you said it's a culmination of some bad execution on great ideas that ends up making them faceplant. This is my favorite FPS franchise. Really sad to see Halo fallen so low and I hope it will rise to the top again one day.
I liked the multiplayer in this game, it didn't require that you shoot someone 500 times before they actually die unlike the other Halo games. I still like the other Halo multiplayers though
Halo 5 gameplay was solid imo. The story needed major tweeks but not a crazy overcorrection like Infinite was.
I would love to see it come to PC or MCC in general if nothing more than to see what sort of life the Halo modding community could breathe into this. I think halo 5 suffered from trying to appease everyone with everything and anything they could think of and that tends to back fire.
I absolutely loved Halo 5 MP. I put hundreds of hours into forge, super fiesta, and custom games. It was a fantastic experience.
You can combine weapons in Infinite too. I was quite positively shocked when I used a needlerspanker for the first time lmao
Holup how??
@@michalis75 I'm not a forger so I don't know exactly how, but in custom games I've played games with weird ass mixes of different weapons.
I've always wanted halo 5 on pc as a separate port from the mcc because that game is HUGE. The main reason is the fov, after playing halo on pc I just have to have an fov slider for it. That and I think mouse and keyboard would be nice on H5.
You gotta remember that you were guaranteed to get two req unlocks per pack so you would eventually get the phaton.
I liked halo 5 campaign . Also the immersion of being in the helmet hud I loved. I loved the spartan abilities too
Props to Act Man for suffering through Halo 5 again for us
Calm down mate. The multiplayer is fun
Suffering? Did you play Halo 5 MP and Warzone? Had just as much as when i used to play H3 and Reach back in the day. Customs browser made it even better
@@YodaOnABender Yeah but everything else kind of sucks, even the multiplayer had limited customization and microtransactions , so it’s like, fun but can’t blame anyone If they find it insufferable.
@@hachelyd_i3232 it's more about the mechanics than sandbox. Sandbox was great but being prohibited from regenerating shields while running? Stupid. Hovering in the air while aiming? Stupid. The insanely fast running,sliding,Spartan dashing and ground pounding just didn't feel like halo. It felt like something completely different. That's one reason why I'm one of the people who couldn't enjoy it at all. Because even as much as customization sucked,I got the mark vi from MCC so I was satisfied but the gameplay itself was awful. And warzone just felt like P2W because the more req packs you had,the more firepower you had
@@YodaOnABender nah, map control is nonexistent thanks to all of the advanced movement shit, it’s awful.
Seems you haven't played too much Warzone. I haven't bought a single REQ pack and I had a ton of Phaetons. You always get packs for playing well and they always contained something awesome. I played til max Level 152 without paying a dime and fun unlocking 100 times the stuff I unlocked in Infinite. Ok, that's a low bar, you can barely unlock anything in Infinite apart from the stupid Battlepass that you have to pay extra for. Which you didn't have to in Halo 5. Would have been nice if you had mentioned that. But I expect too much from you.
"Boohoo I get REQ packs gifted and don't get the stuff I want"
Req pack isn't a problem if you start opening silver packs from the start and collect all the armor, weapons loadout, and abilities then you can start with gold pack to get better items
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I know exactly what you're talking about. You cant microadjust your crosshair so you're forced to strafe to aim. i swear 343 did this on purpose to gimp veteran players. It wasn't like that in the beta and I was shocked when i first played it.
Ok, I get it, halo 5’s campaign, the list of bad things goes on for a while. But I actually enjoyed the multiplayer. The weapon sandbox was massive. You could make new weapons in forge, like a machine gun that fired sniper rounds. I loved that and I wish 343 implemented that into infinite.
Exactly bro. I don’t think we’re ever gonna get a game like H5 again. Even Reach’s Armor Lock was used to make some cool party modes in customs/forge
The multiplayer is amazing in H5
I think 343 did, saw they added a literal machine in forge, like a box, that allows you to mix and match weapon projectiles
Easily better than Infinite, Halo 5 was far better, especially with the multiplayer.
It made me laugh when you brought up the Achilles armor as I remember there was a time when some (or maybe it was just one, I don't remember) spartan companies would be grinding for that armor, and then when they were just about to get it, the leader would kick someone out and add their friend in so they could get the armor without doing anything lol. It was so screwed up but it's kinda funny when you look back at the crazy things people would do to get rare stuff in Halo games.
Lol I remember people used to report every player they saw with Achilles armor because they were salty about getting spawn-camped in warzone lmao
For a while I used to get team-killed alot every time I wore Achilles 😂
@@GallowayJesse Haha yeah Achilles was both hated and loved by the community!
Happened to me I was going to be one of the first to get it then I got kicked as soon as the company got the helmet I was pissed but ended up grinding till I got it again lol
I think the reason why halo 5s weapon and vehicle variants never came to infinite is because there is “no place” for it in infinite. Halo 5 had the perfect environment for wacky and “outside of the box” variants with its flagship gamemode Warzone and its on demand requisition system, but infinite has nothing like that. Also in my opinion I think 343 was very pressured to stick to the Bungie formula for infinite, so much so that some of 343s great, but original, ideas got scrapped, like weapon/vehicle variants
My favorite halo 5 memory is me in a CTF BTB game where I was swearing like a sailor sweating my balls off in the most hard-fought victory I can recall. The game really is a damn sweatfest, but shit, Hard fought victories are the sweetest.
Dude I was honestly addicted to Halo 5 for years lol I absolutely loved the multiplayer
Same it was my life until halo infinite came out and wiped out the popularly😢
The maps were actually made with the advanced movement in mind. *cough* Infinite Warfare *cough* It has the most weapons of any multiplayer in the series. That made super fiesta a BEAST. Amazing forge allowed us to have some of the best maps ever. The general sandbox was just massive and it felt like a bigger love letter to the fans than Infinite
No it wasn’t lmaoo
Halo Cycle is real
Halo 5 multiplayer was underated imo. I loved it so much
ive been screaming this into the void for yeaaaars! when everyone was trashing it(sometimes rightly so). h5g might pale in comparison to old halos in some ways but halo 5 mp, warzone & customs was always such a great time.
i would easily play halo 5 multiplayer on pc if they launched it, i have so many memories of halo 5 custom games and firefight. easily my favorite multiplayer
Really good video, always been warm hearted towards halo 5s multiplayer. Got me thru tough times in high school, one of my favs
I never played a Halo in multiplayer like Halo 5. The multiplayer was near perfect. The warzone was so refreshing. Was grinding that thing 24/7. The SR rank system was nice and it was hard to hit max rank not like Halo 4. And unlike Halo 3, You can loose a game and still earn xp so it's not as sweaty as you say I think. Arena, yes that can be right, like all arena type games in all Halo games. But Warzone... Man that was chillzone. Loved it. The REQ pack system was nice too. For 2 things. First, you can't never unlock the same thing twice. Second, you don't need to pay to have the top weapons. It was nice grinding that game and opening REQ packs knowing I will have something brand new everytime. The grind was nice in Halo 5. I miss it actually. Anyway, see you on the battleground spartan! Halo MCC it is for me for now.
3:00 but sprint still doesn't belong. They "fixed" it by nerfing it into almost non existence.
As a CQB guy I enjoyed the multi-player thanks to the movement abilities. Boost in and melee someone then finish them with the smg and boost away. During war zone I would hold one of the bases myself most of the time and pile up kills like crazy.
H5 had by far the best multiplayer of any halo game
The most polished most complete experience that could recreate any previous halo game playlist
Most incredible forge customization
War zone fire fight etc insane!
H5 is still better than infinite
I’ve said it and I’ll say it again, Halo 4s campaign was good, they still had critical elements of old bungie campaigns and it is definitely better in story and gameplay to 5 and infinite, but we threw a fit over it because we had no idea how bad it would get, and halo 5s multiplayer was incredibly fun and they added so many cool features, but that too was driven into the floor by the expectations bungie left behind, and because of that were left with a 343 who’s scared to try the things that they’ve already done and that have worked, because of feedback from a fan base who was still reeling from the loss of bungie
After playing Infinite for a while I decided to get Halo 5 to see how it was. I was investing a lot into Halo around 2022 and I thought it would be cool to try out the one halo game I hadn't gotten yet. Got a preowned copy for a few bucks and gave it a whirl. Honestly I had so much fun with Halo 5's multiplayer. I loved playing Warzone Firefight. A good way to unwind if you were getting destroyed in multiplayer. The progression felt infinitely more rewarding than Infinite. Played it non-stop for 3 months. In my opinion, Halo 5's multiplayer overall stands up better against Halo Infinite's to this day.
As someone who hops into old games from time to time, its just a nice breath of fresh air to play something classic. Most of those old pc games had solid gunplay, and really funny movement exploits that make them a blast to hop back into. The speed of those classic fps games before controller became the norm for shooters is something you really just don't get from new shooters anymore.
Almost every high school weekend me and my friends would bring our xboxes to one house and just play halo 5's mp and i adore it to this day
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