How to Clean Your Brass Wet Tumbler, Ultrasonic, Dry Tumbler, and Free! Frankford Arsenal Review
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Frankford Arsenal Wet Tumbler review with an overview of all the common ways to clean your brass.
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A better way to prevent leakage is to smear a little Vaseline on both sides of the rubber seals. You don’t have to screw the ends on so tight and they unscrew easier.
I got the Lyman Cyclone Rotary Case Tumbler, loaded more then i should have and not had any issues, it has never slipped on the rollers, had it for a few years, been very great, but i didn't but it cause it had the name of Lyman, it was what my local gun shop had in stock, great video as always
I’ve been watching your videos for years now and I’m so glad you hit that 100k mark!
Thank you! 10 years in the making.
kids in journalism school need to watch this video and learn the difference between dry media and wet media
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Great video - your tumbler rubber band fix gave me an idea...
I took some 220 grit and LIGHTLY scuffed up the drum and rubber drive wheels on my FA, cleaned with alcohol, and it spun right up.
After a few minutes I wiped the wheels again, but that worked for me. Thanks for the idea! 🍻
When you use lemon shine you need to neutralize the lemon shine. It is a citric acid and just rinsing the brass will not do it. When my brass is done tumbling I open the one end and put a couple tablespoon of baking soda in and swish it around a bit. I then drain the water off and dump it in my screen over a bucket to separate the pins from the brass also I am rinsing it with fresh water. I have a container of water with baking soda in it and put the brass in there. Swish it around. I put the brass in my media separator tumbler(Frankford Arsenal) and it spins excess water and any pins out of the cases. I dump them on terry cloth beach towel and roll them around with my hands. I put my towel with brass out in the sun to final dry. If you don't neutralize the lemon shine the brass will turn dark.
Great video
Links to Items used in this video: Tumbler - amzn.to/3mvjAbX Stainless Steel Media - amzn.to/3KI8NDe Media Magnet - amzn.to/43yDPpF
Link to Brass Sorter File - www.thingiverse.com/thing:2913237
Link to FART wrench 3D file: www.thingiverse.com/thing:4908772 I'll test it soon
Link to lead dangers article. dph.illinois.gov/content/dam/soi/en/web/idph/files/publications/lead-safety-shooters-041516.pdf
When I worked for a welding supply company, I'd get dry ice rice pellets and use it in my tumbler... works great and no mess.. Caveat is to use outside only.
That's a great idea if you've got the access to the media.
@@deuceandguns Pretty much anyone can buy dry ice pellets from cryogenic supply companies (I used to work for one in Colorado). We had parents just about every week buying cryogenics for their kids’ science projects. These are companies that produce and deliver dry ice and liquid nitrogen to medical facilities, universities, pharma companies, welding operations, etc. They won’t deliver to individual consumers, but anyone can place an order and pick it from their depot.
Get a concrete mixer wether old or a cheap new harbor freight one and you can go dry or wet.
My father n law used a old paint shaker to clean brass. We also used it to make butter and a few other things. Clean cans of course lol.
Brother one thing from a guy who did this for a living. After running the brass in the wet SS. You need to run the loaded ammo in your walnut media with some kind of light wax. I use mother's aluminum mag polish. This keeps the brass from tarnishing really quickly. It's got something to do with the SS removing all the oils or what ever it is on the brass. Hope this did not come out as me trying to sound like a know it all. I just found this out after a lot of hard work and time wasted. Thanks for sharing. Keep up the grate work. God Bless brother..
More info out there the better.
That's if you are bothered by the look. It does not matter what the brass looks like to perform properly. I love it when it looks like factory, but when it's tarnished I seem to not care anymore, still works the same.
@@deuceandguns Glad I did not upset you. Not at all what I was trying to do. Not that kind of guy.
@@lens7859 I have found it to be true. Tarnished brass works fine. But to be crystal clear I was selling cleaned and polished brass. So that is why I was doing it. I still run mine for 5 mins after loading it. Just like it to be nice and clean looking.
Thank you for a well described video. some of us may have gotten in to reloading recently.
a video of you using a Lee single stage may be useful. thanks again.
At one point half my channel was about reloading but UA-cam took most of it down. I've still got some reloading info on here using that exact press and plan on making more so stay tuned.
I have the Frankford small tumbler and love it. No leaks, runs quiet (That is what the rubber is for in the larger model) and is more economical than the larger unit for the average guy. I don't use Lemi-Shine, a big bag of powdered citric acid off Scamamzon does the same thing for 1/4 the price and you get twice as much. I use a 9mm shell for a measure for each load. As for the leaks just use hot water when filling it, seal it up and as the water cools it contracts and creates a vacuum and seals the cover down tight. Also the same magnet you have shown is available from Harbor freight for 1/2 the price anywhere else. I use Southern Shine stainless media and it's fantastic, no pins stuck in flash holes and it's so small and sharp my brass comes out polished. I can clean 300 223, 400+ 38 or 357, 500 45acp and 250 308 if need be so it's the perfect size for me. I have a sifter pan that fits a 2gal Home Depot bucket so I just dump everything in there while running cold water into it and all the Southern Shine drops into it and the brass is fully rinsed. I pull the SS media out of the bottom of the bucket with the magnet, the brass is left in the sifter pan and goes into an old food dehydrator I have and a half hour later my brass looks much better than new, polished to a mirror finish and not a spot of carbon anywhere. I still have the walnut polisher for touch ups. I can't believe it took me so long to do this.
I've spent hours trying out dry vibratory cleaning and ultrasonic I have 2 lyman cyclone wet tumbler fantastic best results cleaning and polish Lemi shine waste $$$ white vinegar 1ltr rest water liquid wash and wax superb results
Thank you for your video. I was seriously looking at purchasing the FART lite. I do have coffee containers. The latest tumbler I made out of 3 inch pvc and a cheap cordless drill with the trigger pined half way to go slow. I have not used the stainless media yet. Again thank you for the info on the lite.
Great information thank you for sharing!👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸
The best method I’ve found to clean my 22lr can baffles was place them in a small Rubbermaid style food container, fill it with vinegar, then put it in my ultrasonic cleaners water. Ten minutes and they looked brand new!
I have the smaller version of the Frankfort Arsenal tumbler, and it works fine. While it does have a tendency to leak, you can get it so it won’t. Clean all mating surfaces very well, and put it together wet. Watch it roll for a couple minutes, and if it doesn’t leak, you’re good. I’ve always used mine on my reloading bench with no problems. The instructions say yo only use it on the floor because it might vibrate and fall off a bench, but it has rubber feet on the bottom. Mine has never moved.
You have a bunker? Lol. Just got one of those, waiting for Lemi shine or however it’s spelled. 👍
I also use my dry tumbler to powder coat. I have the FA wet one and will never look back !
For leaking help I always wet the rubber gasket and then screw down the cap. That really
helps with the leaks :-))
I have the FART Lite and it works great for me. While I will use my pins on dirty "range brass," I have learned that I don't need it for bolt action brass that never hits the floor.
Pink cases are caused by too much lemi-shine and/or too much time in the bath. Strong acids or bases can dissolve the zinc out of your brass. I use a Lortone rock tumbler (3# rubber drum) and literally only use a pinch of lemi-shine (1/8 or even 1/16 tsp) I've heard that a 9mm case full of lemi-shine is more than enough for the FA tumbler.
Good video, I love my Frankfort Arsenal wet tumbler, both with pins and without. If I have a big bad of range brass I’ll use the same cleaning solution without the pins to pre clean for sorting, it does a great job for that. As for the 22lr silencer, I have the Banish 22 titanium and it cleans the internals to like new but don’t do an aluminum cheapie, 👍
Do you just put the contents of 1 suppressor in there? That’s not too much extra space? What kind of media and how much?
@@sethwatson8952 Here's a link to a video where I tumble my suppressor internals. ua-cam.com/video/ZAjvpubr-oQ/v-deo.html I simply put my 5lb of pins in there with some dawn and fill it all the way up so it won't slip. Make sure to only tumble stainless or titanium parts because any thing aluminum or painted won't look to good after a tumbling.
Had me at cheap bastards like me, subscribed. ~Arnie 😂👍🏻
I have the small FA tumbler and i was a bit disappointed myself. One day i put 5 plastic knives in there and it worked but they would stop tumbling. I then put 5-6 plastic "spoons" inside and it keeps tumbling. The cases dont sit at the bottom anymore
Quick easy hack if anyone cares. It was easy for me because i stay with plastic utensils!😆
@@Erik7prc That's some great info. I'll pass it along to anyone having issues.
Almost free version on a paint shaker? How long would you shake it for?
Buy the FART spanner wrench to tighten down the end caps. I don't use the SS pins. Those pins get into everything. 90 minutes later you have clean brass.
sort of .a pain, but I like my F.A.R.T. with steel pins. I deprime and re size then wet tumble. Takes some more work, but I'm not in a rush and the results are great.
So according to the free or nearly free version if you have an old paint shaker and and empty paint container that would be the BEST, correct?
Depending on how violent that old paint shaker is it could dent the cases but it's worth a shot.
if you need a Big Ass Tumbler. get a Harbor Freight Cement Mixer for $200.00, Home Depot 5 Gal. Bucket with Lid for $7.00
strap the bucket into the mixer and tumble 5 gallons worth of brass at a time
or additional buckets together if needed.
How do you dry the brass after cleaning? It's a lot of shells every time, so spreading them out to let them air dry would take a lot of real-estate for a long time.
Not required when tumbling your cases in deadly corn cob shavings. Do not listed to this knob
@@karstenbonitz7991 That's really what I am doing for over 20 years now. It is quite dusty when separating the cases though.
I generally don't reload the brass the same day I clean it. I will usually wait to do any cleaning until I have about 40 or 50 lbs accumulated, then I do a marathon cleaning exercise. After wet tumbling, I spread the brass out on a towel (or towels) on every flat surface in my garage and let it dry overnight. Once dry, I store the brass in empty coffee cans until I'm ready to reload it. Keeping the brass in a closed coffee can seems to really slow down the tarnishing.
I like to lubricate all my brass before reloading - even pistol brass (I use homemade lube consisting of liquid lanolin and alcohol). It makes the resizing position of a progressive press operate MUCH more smoothly. After I've reloaded 300 or so rounds, I run the newly reloaded rounds through a 15 minute cycle in my vibratory tumbler using corn cob media. It takes off the excess lube and leaves me with rounds that look like jewelry!
Take care and God Bless.
Wish you would link the tumbler in the description
Due to UA-cam's hate for firearm channels I have to put all links in the first comment. Here is the link to the tumbler I used: amzn.to/3JHxShI
@@deuceandguns thank you
Do you have to remove your stainless pins and dry them when not in use?
They come out when I separate the brass so I put them into an old plastic coffee can and leave the lid off to dry.
@@deuceandguns Thanks
Good video takes lot off work
It’s the lemi shine that turns brass pink.
Regarding the leaking, I have noticed it leaks in the beginning when I use very hot water. I think it is due to the pressure . Try lowering the temp of the water, or if you see it dripping, un screw and re tighten, you usually will hear the air going in or coming out and that solves the leaking.
so dont use the dishwasher?
Not unless you have an extra dishwasher you can dedicate to firearms. I know a dude who does and he uses it to clean his black powder revolvers.
Free method looks best, i just need to clean 50 at a time
sold me at "CHEAP BASTARD". Sub and like!
For the life of me I cannot find anywhere in the real world that actually sells Lemimshine. It’s available online for 2-3 times the real world price.
For as much as I hate Walmart they've had it across the multiple states I’ve looked. It’s always in the dish soap aisle.
My piece of garbage works great!
I can't believe you just completely skipped over the process of using a wet tumbling method in a vibratory Tumbler or if yours is not equipped, buying the Lyman Wet Tumbling Bowl & Lid..... after all from everything I can gather vibratory tumblers are more efficient & less time per batch.
No thank you on the tumbler ..
if one shoots copper jacket bullets, where does the lead dust come from?
The majority of jacketed bullets still have an exposed lead base. If you're reloading with plated bullets then lead shouldn't be a big concern as long as you only pick up your own brass.
Powder and Primer residue are ever bit as toxic as lead residue