ACRES OF MESS!? OR THE PERFECT SOLUTION?... YOU HAVE TOLD ME TO DO THIS FOR YEARS!
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2023
- In today's video we are trying something that i have been told to go for years... I decided to give "Pre Mowing" a go while dad is away.
Will it work? or will it be a waste of time and make a mess? let me know what you think.
Hope you enjoy the video !
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Loves Tilly she was like "tom they know who I am get that drone out of my face I'm trying to make you look good." Hope everyone has a great week. Be well Be you
Love it!! 😂
You never learn if you don't experiment with new ideas, great job Tom, don't give up on it yet take a few days to fine tune how much you mow in relation to how much the girls eat
Bring the wife to New Zealand for a baby moon and we’ll teach you to pre mow properly Tom!
tom usually it does work but only if weather is good. makes it easier for the cows to eat using less energy will take a couple of days but youll notice production is up and they dont leave much behind and enables the grass to recover and grow sooner
Tom never worry about giving us videos. Of course we look forward to every Tuesday & Friday, but your farm has to come first.Didn't see you with a lolly while doing grass this time 🍭🍭🍭Give Jo my love and I hope Ginge had a great time in Ireland 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Congratulations on giving it a go. Every herd is different and you know your cows. On this occasion it didn't work so well, but another time it could be a game changer. Hope you all enjoyed your trip to Ireland 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🍀🍀🍀👍👍👍
Well done for giving it a try Tom
Keep up the good work Tom and dad love what you do 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Always good to try something different in a new way. You never know until you've tried.
That was great watching your experiment. Especially seeing the side- by-sides.
Nice to see your dad enjoying his holiday, too.
Interessant was man von euch lernen kann😊 jedes Video ein Fest🎉
It's always worth trying something new, were always learning no whether what we do or where we are in life. 👍🤗
Interesting topic today. Loved your experiment!
Good morning Tom! Cheers 🍻 from Ohio USA 🇺🇸. Love your videos and the happy cows 🐄.
When you try new things like the premowing, might be worth leaving a comparison strips or two?
Would really highlight the difference for lessons learned.
I agree Tom. The graze then top seems to work better for you.
Tom we pre mow on your farm and it works for us and you should use the mower for topping
Would be interesting to mow half of the strip and see which gets more grazing , the mown one or the unmown. My Father says it depends on what type of grass you have. Our grass has a very heavy seed load, the seeds are the size of wheat with long tough filaments, so premowing is a big help, it chops the tough bit up and they are more likely to eat it, your grass is so fine and the seed heads so little that premowing might not do much good
Cows will always go for the unmown grass first.. Pre mow works well if done right.. Have to master giving the right amount
@uptoyou100 from my experience living and working on dairy farms here in nz we pre mow quite often and I've always found the cows go for the mowed stuff first as cows are lazy animals and will always go for the easy option as it takes less energy to eat the mown stuff first then the uncut stuff second
Hi Tom , a few things to bare in mind with pre mow.
Cows need to be grazing a grass only diet, any silage or buffer feed deminishes their appetite to graze.
Weather needs to be dry, also better used as a tool when you’re in a grass deficit situation and need to graze sub optimal grazing grass.
System needs to be set up and other things in place to get the desired results. Works well if done correctly.
I visited the grasstech new office in Ireland the other week, some super stuff as regards research at Moorpark.
Your welcome to visit my farm any time. Hope parlour is coming on well👍
Grazing grass requires you to measure to manage.Every days a school day.
As always another good video keep up the good work well done
Thank you for all the cool vid's
Great video. I tried the pre mowing myself on a paddock and I came to the same conclusion as you did. The field looks awful messy afterwards. We ended up running the rake over it and baling it up.
Grasstech currently got some excellent second hand plate meters for sale at moment, might help feel your way into grazing and grass allocation side of things and then setting up your paddock size will make more sense.
I know it’s one step at a time, you’ve got plenty going on👍
At least u tried it Tom maybe down the road sometime u can give it another shot if u interested and learn more about it to be more efficient
Keep making vids you’re a hoot and doing a great job.
Great video Tom it was worth a try at least you know and it’s normally the what works for one doesn’t work for another 👏👏👍👍
Thanks Tom always interesting to try new things loved the ending your father was cool about it or so it seems such a nice guy enjoy every minute you have with ea h other they are special time ?
Always worth trying things on yout own farm
Very interesting video as you rightly say paddocks are the way forwards ultimately once you have paddocks make life so much easier
Aeration aeration aeration is always key. After grazing. Allows oxygen to the roots, helps dry out a field faster, helps the Fields absorb more water, helps slurry intake better, reduces compaction from tractors and cows.
Currently watching from Corfu getting chance to catch up with your video’s, very interesting how your getting on with different types of grazing. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
Hope you have a great hoilday ☺️
Watching Tilly eat the grass you cut makes my heart full. 🥰
Top job Tom. No guts no glory
Amazing, if you think about it, how we like to get away from what we normally day in and day out. Yet, we feel so much better getting back to the daily life.
I live in the south east Ireland and I have a Fleming topper as well. What an addition to the farm. If I put my 36 cattle into a 10 acre field and like your field it catches up to them I top 1 acre a day to them. They wont eat is that day BUT within 12 hours they have it scoffed down. As you said there is a bit of work with it ut it clean the field as they are in it!! I can't wait to see how it goes for you!
Interesting concept, we top, harrow, aerate, and do a small liquid urea dose after grazing, it works well for us on permanent pasture year round grazing.
Need those paddocks divided into individual paddocks. Then you can block/strip graze better.
Why would you want paddocks and strip fences?
@davidforan2871 you definitely aren't Irish when u say that
In Toms case he needs more water excess points central roadway to make strip grazing more convenient no need to spend a heap of money on paddock fencing that is too big at peak growth and too small as grass growth slows down
Premowing is a great job. We do it the whole time especially with the drought’s and slow grass growth the last few summers. Handy to take out strong covers of grass and saves us feeding silage bales during the summer. We find you only have to give a fraction of the grass when premowing. The cows will clean the ground as if you cut it for silage. Just like grazing you just need to judge how much you give.
We do this in nz mowing before the cows is time consuming but well worth it bumps production and makes them eat more 100% recommend it
Good job tom you tried it without trying it you'd never no 👍👏
I hope you don't shed too many tears with the Ashes going back to Australia again maybe better luck next time cheers from Bundaberg Australia
At least you had a go at it .😊
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We have fields here in Maine USA that the wet weather hasn't allowed for first cutting of hay yet. Can't get two days in arow without rain or fog. Some fields are bogs and need to dry out.
Hi Tom I’m a contractor in New Zealand wev done a lot of mowing in front in the past for some of our clients. If your wanting the best result for mowing in front you need a mower with a Conditioner on it and mow around lunch time when sugar levels are at there peek. They won’t leave a blade of grass behind
Good video Tom 👍👍👍👍
great video tom good to see the ginger warrior
Morning Tom
Hi Tom, well you gave it a go and probably didn't turn out that good. Your family has farmed the land for many years and best to stick with how they did it. You are a bit sneaky doing it when your dads not there, but I would have done the same. Keep on keeping on. Chris from Australia 🇦🇺.
Good video Tom If you don't try something new then you never know if it will work now, you know. It was nice to see Andrew back on video. How is the parlor going? I can't wait to see it working.
Parlour going well, just want to be in now 🙈
Stick to what you know 👍👍👍🙏💕
Very good pre mowing
Good idea for some but not you, you never know till you try. Praise to you for trying. Perhaps if you didn't cut some much on the first cut might have done, but grazing seems better for you. Hope Jo is keeping well and blooming nicely.
You did give it a great try Tom, yes i think u mowed too much to start with but u also have to consider any extra feed they are getting. We pre mow here wen grass getting away on us but we only feed grass so they clean paddock up really well. But excellent try ❤🥰
It's Awesome you have such a close relationship with your father. Mine was never in my life never got to meet him and found out he died a few years ago so there's that. I just enjoy watching you two interact and wonder how great it must be. Thanks guys
Thanks for watching ☺️
Brilliant my brother It doesn’t sell on me either pre mowing it’s just a waste of time and diesel
My experience from Ireland. Pros and cons to it,
The pro, you get the paddock cleaned up and it should grow back better quality.
Con, you are tricking the cows into eating what they would choose not to. Therefore not good for milk yield dispite what some people like to think.
Con, time, fuel, wear on machinery. You waste around the same amount of grass as topping. Also in my opinion you mowed too much and too high.
Plan A, the cows graze it and no topping or pre mowing. It can be done if you are grazing the right grass and grazing it down well. Keep working with grass tec, they can teach you.
Plan B, if a paddock gets too strong, you skip and make it into silage bales asap.
Plan C, if quality isn't right and you have to graze as you don't have enough grass to skip, you top or pre mow. Plan C should rarely be necessary, it often means you made a mistake in the grazing last rotation. Learn from it and move on.
One of the best farming channels on utube...farm is looking very nice, and I hope to visit one day and try out that milkshake machine.keep up the brilliant work and greetings to you and family from Norfolk. 👍🍺
Thanks make ☺️
At 2-3.1! Close the fecking gate Tom! Kidding! 😂😂 You’re wonderful as usual! ❤️
Pre mowing is pretty high here in Mid Canterbury, New Zealand for pasture management. Even if the girls don't clean it up perfectly it's green fert going back in to pdk. The sooner you get your pdks sorted and fenced and utilize hot wires the whole lot will work out. 👍🏻🍻🐄🐂🚜🇳🇿
Love watching the cows walk in a row down the lane way
We do pre mow a rye grass mix and we make silage from it we also do plow up all fields every five years because of a rule that says you didn't you can't plow it to grow other crops so basically you're forced to plow up your best yielding grass. Pre mowing does work for us they're always with their heads down when they're out.
Love seeing your dad. It's a bit odd the cow's didn't eat all the cut stuff first. 😕 but love the video.
Used to do that with are 135 and knive bar worked well
Hi Tom great videos. A quick question what is the tie up with the other farm where you keep “borrowing” 😁 equipment from. Sure you have mentioned in the past, but I think I may have missed it. Ta.
The area you gave them with that grass cover I would give to my 240 cow herd. I pre mow every paddock at least once a year to clean it up. Cows need to be trained in and takes time for them to get used to it. Any grass that is left over we rake it up and take it off the field and it's just less mess then topping.. Works well in paddocks
My grandfather learned me that a cow wants to steal. So if you mowed 2 rows and they would have to steal it from under the electric fence, it might work. But maybe then you have to do twice a day, which is a lot more work. If you want to get more from fresh grass, a zero grazer might be worth looking at
You need to try a plate meter to know how much to allocate. We wouldn’t dream of feeding with a Keenan without a weigher yet we put cows in to a field without knowing what’s there other than eye
Do it a lot in Cornwall Tom works really well do don’t give them to much at a time field is a lot cleaner next time they go in to graze.
Yes Tom, you tried a new system, and probably if you had only cut half what you cut and possible could have worked to your advantage. And also you lean by your mistakes .
What if it takes them a while to get used to it? Like for everything else that is new to them?
Interesting video Tom, maybe you should try using the mower rather than the topper to go over the paddocks after they have grazed, heard before that a mower will cut the grass cleaner rather than “tear” it off which encourages regrowth better. Just a thought. Keep up with the experiments.
we Primo grass for the cows at work and it is truly brilliant one because it tidies your field to you having to use diesel. Anyway if you going to top a field we swear by it
Pre mowing is a great job. We are finding it working a treat esp if you as re planning on topping after grazing for that round. Grass rebounds quicker after pre mowing than post mowing. Cows love it. They eat all the grasses rather than the lush green stuff which helps esp for the man milking. I think you just mowed too much they really need to have it cleaned up in one grazing and try keep pre mowing grass covers around the 1200-1500kg DM.
When you said pre now I thought you meant spraying it 😂 we use that spray on the golf course
Hi Tom we’ve been mowing today
Maybe because they aren’t used to this, after a few times they’d maybe start eating it as some were giving it a go from what I seen, but unless you have ample amounts of grazing grass it’s too big of a risk
Tilly is a beautiful cow!
Trampling is what screws the cleaning up of pre mow, I would divide and sub divide and move the fence half way threw the grazing session if you keep them tight and reduce roaming they’ll clear up means you have to go back during the day but it works we get 100% clean out the milk is always up after it. The fibre content is higher than grazing so they fill quicker so you could feed 15-20% less area and get good results plate meter is your best friend for pre mowing
Hope you enjoyed Ireland Tom we do good weddings 😊
we've done it and it works well on shorter stuff if you don't give them too much. We have ended up raking it up and baling/dumping it though which is not ideal .
Done that before… no ideal
I bet you father is so proud of you an ya mother I wish ya all the best in life an your family respect from northern Ireland 🇬🇧
Premowing depends on the types of grass you have. I have fairly soft grasses and it does not help much. My BIL lives North west about 300 miles and he has hard prairie grasses and premowing works well for him.
You don't know until you try 🤞
I think you should do a test. mow a couple runs and leave half, not mowed and see what the cows eat first the uncut grass or the mown grass to see what the cows prefer. Grate video
I missed it. Do you roll your grass fields also to help smooth them out for the cattle and driving through?
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I think pre mowing is much better than topping after
I found myself wondering whether the area of your initial premo was just too big and once the cows got behind they couldn't catch up? But worth experimenting, even if not a great first time result.
I pre mow any paddocks that get way to strong because the cows aren’t able to pull the grass it also gives the grass an extra day to grow
Farming in the pacific northwest we found premowing works well, but only if we only mow as much as they need for that day and they only have access to it. Otherwise our cows would rather sort through the grasses in the paddock and then we have to postmow twice a season.
Also they like to lay down in that nice bed you just made, poo in it and then not eat that nice big pile of grass you just made.
Use field area mesure to know how much acre you give them we pre mow. And took use about 1 month to get it spot on
It's been a tick but I really enjoyed taking in my UA-cam class; "Farm Skills 101 w/ Tom". Thank you for my random education Tom- I'm in Pasadena CA. and farms a bit uncommon for me. Thank you for my education.
Great Video Tom, tbh Tom, thats a great idea But i would row it up just to see how that gos
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If your thinking of trying things like pre mowing, what about trying zero grazing? Would there be less mess? Or strip graze on the pre mown? Got to weigh up the time and benefits!
Glad you done it for me Tom (Harry) 😂😂
Should you go through with the tedder on the first you cut? spread the muck and dead hay
That the right colour
Tractor of this day lol
We used to mow roughly 3 rounds of a mower similar to yours for 130 cows similar length crop would do roughly 12 to 14 hours
The mower will have cut lower than the topper that’s y it looks messy but I’m sure u will see that the premow section will have better quality grass next time as the topper cutting higher up just allows a base of stem that is near impossible to get cows to clean out properly accurate allocation is essential to premowing working properly