I'm glad you made this video. I too had this problem with my 1500 watt Jackery. Another You tuber made a similar video and he too had mentioned in his video that some commenters were having trouble running their furnaces with portable power packs. I believe the problem lies in the grounding of the Jackery units... there is none. I suspect that because they float the ground the furnace doesn't "like" this setup because these heating units are designed to look for proper grounding which the many portable power packs on the market today can't supply. Coming off of a 12 hour power failure the other day and finding this out the hard way got me thinking. My answer to this problem was simple. I took a cheetah plug adapter with a built in ground wire and extended the wire so that it can reach the screw that holds the plate on my switchable outlet where my furnace normally plugs into. That now satisfies the floating ground problem and still supplies a clean sinewave that the furnace needs to operate. I haven't tried it yet but it makes sense that it should work. I tested it it last night and it DOESN'T work. I was shocked to say the least. I bought a floating ground plug from Amazon and along with a 3 to 1 outlet adapter and that did the trick.
If not mistaken isn't our furnaces on 15 or 20 amp breakers? That poor Jackery is only able to pull 8 amps at most while the solar bank has just enough, roughly 16.5 amps. to fire everything up and some to spare. But running a forced air space heater would not be out of the question for this Jackery.
I’ve checked that furnace with an ammeter and its peak surge is 9 amps. That’s equal to 1080watts which is right in that Jackery’s sweet spot. That small induction motor only draws about 1.7 amps. The Furnace’s control board is just not functioning properly when there is a call for heat. When there is a call for heat it throws that igniter error, but the main blower turns on and draws 400Watts. We saw that when the furnace is first switched to the Jackery the control board shows a normal status, but when asked to do something it errors out. In theory it should work, but just doesn’t. At least with this Tran furnace. Other furnaces with a different control board may run fine. Has to be do to a current relationship between the hot and neutral. If it was that the draw was just to much for that Jackery it would of shutdown and the furnace would have crashed. That’s the best I can come up with so far.
HOWdy T-C-W, ... Thanks CHIEF - great way to Stay WARM in a Power-Failure my only qualms is the COST of that E-Z GENERATOR Switch !!! I'm sorry to see that your JACKERY would not supply enough JUICE to FIRE your FURNACE COOP the WiSeNhEiMeR from Richmond, INDIANA ...
This is concerning. I have a mid term plan to use a pretty identical single circuit transfer switch to run my (non Trane) gas furnace in emergencies from a Montek power station, and some Pecron gear.
Test before you need it. I actually discovered this last Spring. My original plan was to run the furnace on the Jackery 880 but plug the Jackery into my main system with either 24vdc or the AC charger. The Jackery takes the full power of about 500W of the furnace and the main system only has to provide a max of 148-178W recharging the Jackery. This plan didn’t work out and I have to plug it into my Renogy 2000W inverter with no problem. I use the same concept running a large refrigerator on a Jackery and plugging it into the wall powered by my Main Inverter.
The EZ Switch is wired up per the manufacture spec. Ground and Neutral are separated, so in part two I use a special plug to cure the problem. Part of the problem is the Jackery ground plug is a big empty hole. Watch part two to see the cure.
Watch part 2. I find the work around. The problem is that the Jackery and many portable generators do not have the ground and neutral bonded. This is what is causing the error. By using a special plug that bonds the neutral and ground fixes the problem. The Bluetti may have the same problem. Watch part 2.
Hey All!!! I found this Video from a year ago of a guy having the exact same symptoms I am having with using the Jackery. He had the exact problem using a generator. I have ordered the Capacitor he used for testing. Stand by for testing results. Link to Video below. ua-cam.com/video/OIYwuuf8IMk/v-deo.html
I'm glad you made this video. I too had this problem with my 1500 watt Jackery. Another You tuber made a similar video and he too had mentioned in his video that some commenters were having trouble running their furnaces with portable power packs. I believe the problem lies in the grounding of the Jackery units... there is none. I suspect that because they float the ground the furnace doesn't "like" this setup because these heating units are designed to look for proper grounding which the many portable power packs on the market today can't supply.
Coming off of a 12 hour power failure the other day and finding this out the hard way got me thinking. My answer to this problem was simple. I took a cheetah plug adapter with a built in ground wire and extended the wire so that it can reach the screw that holds the plate on my switchable outlet where my furnace normally plugs into. That now satisfies the floating ground problem and still supplies a clean sinewave that the furnace needs to operate.
I haven't tried it yet but it makes sense that it should work.
I tested it it last night and it DOESN'T work. I was shocked to say the least. I bought a floating ground plug from Amazon and along with a 3 to 1 outlet adapter and that did the trick.
In part 2 I use a plug that bonds the neutral and ground together and fixes the problem.
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If not mistaken isn't our furnaces on 15 or 20 amp breakers? That poor Jackery is only able to pull 8 amps at most while the solar bank has just enough, roughly 16.5 amps. to fire everything up and some to spare. But running a forced air space heater would not be out of the question for this Jackery.
I’ve checked that furnace with an ammeter and its peak surge is 9 amps. That’s equal to 1080watts which is right in that Jackery’s sweet spot. That small induction motor only draws about 1.7 amps. The Furnace’s control board is just not functioning properly when there is a call for heat. When there is a call for heat it throws that igniter error, but the main blower turns on and draws 400Watts. We saw that when the furnace is first switched to the Jackery the control board shows a normal status, but when asked to do something it errors out. In theory it should work, but just doesn’t. At least with this Tran furnace. Other furnaces with a different control board may run fine. Has to be do to a current relationship between the hot and neutral. If it was that the draw was just to much for that Jackery it would of shutdown and the furnace would have crashed. That’s the best I can come up with so far.
HOWdy T-C-W, ...
Thanks CHIEF - great way to Stay WARM in a Power-Failure
my only qualms is the COST of that E-Z GENERATOR Switch !!!
I'm sorry to see that your JACKERY would not supply enough JUICE to FIRE your FURNACE
COOP
the WiSeNhEiMeR from Richmond, INDIANA
...
Do you have video of your 200w inverter setup with components list, I am working to build similar one.
Here are a few videos that can help.
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This is concerning. I have a mid term plan to use a pretty identical single circuit transfer switch to run my (non Trane) gas furnace in emergencies from a Montek power station, and some Pecron gear.
Test before you need it. I actually discovered this last Spring. My original plan was to run the furnace on the Jackery 880 but plug the Jackery into my main system with either 24vdc or the AC charger. The Jackery takes the full power of about 500W of the furnace and the main system only has to provide a max of 148-178W recharging the Jackery. This plan didn’t work out and I have to plug it into my Renogy 2000W inverter with no problem. I use the same concept running a large refrigerator on a Jackery and plugging it into the wall powered by my Main Inverter.
Do you have the EZ generator switch wired up for a floating ground?
The EZ Switch is wired up per the manufacture spec. Ground and Neutral are separated, so in part two I use a special plug to cure the problem. Part of the problem is the Jackery ground plug is a big empty hole. Watch part two to see the cure.
So I guess trying this with my Explorer 500 is out of the question. I bet my Bluetti 200L will handle it.
Watch part 2. I find the work around. The problem is that the Jackery and many portable generators do not have the ground and neutral bonded. This is what is causing the error. By using a special plug that bonds the neutral and ground fixes the problem. The Bluetti may have the same problem. Watch part 2.
Hey All!!! I found this Video from a year ago of a guy having the exact same symptoms I am having with using the Jackery. He had the exact problem using a generator. I have ordered the Capacitor he used for testing. Stand by for testing results. Link to Video below.
ua-cam.com/video/OIYwuuf8IMk/v-deo.html