One of the few mice I immediately started playing just as good or even better with it, no adjustment time need and that's quite rare for me, good review!
Can say that this is my main. I don't know how to describe it, but it just feels intuitive i guess. If you are used to claw gripping ergo mice, this is probably going to feel amazing for you.
Great review man! I've been enjoying the Outset AX a lot! Its too big for my relaxed claw though so I end up kinda palming it. Love the new coating as well!
Thanks man, much appreciated! They might skip similiar shapes to FK2 as there are quite many of them already, but very interested to see what's coming from them.
Just picked this mouse up 2 days ago and I'm loving it the higher profile is perfect for me fills the hand alot more than the ec2 and the shorter length is great for vertical adjustments, I'm trying the Corepads on it but I have a spare set of the stock if I feel like I want to go back to those, top review agree with nearly all of what you said keep it up dude
Great review i agree with you mostly except that my sometimes sweaty hands don't enjoy this coating and the scroll being loud and heavy doesn't matter to me personally. Definetely my new favorite ergo shape, dethroning the mighty EC2.
Hey I love these reviews. My hands are 18x9 and I like relaxed claw. I have an xm1 right now and I’m debating if I should get a za13 or s2 but I don’t know which one will feel the best. I’m looking for narrow mouse with a hump that hits the very centre of the palm. a reply would be appreciated
나가 its lower latency so always use 2 unless u specifically want the debounce lasting longer, i heard minecraft players liked debounce higher or something, i just know that for fps u want 2ms
your content become better and better ( i talk about the quality of your filming !!! ) The problem of vaxee it's the weight for me now, it's complicate to come back from the m42 or m4 and try to play with a 80g mouse now :( For me the cable it's ok not so disturbing the mouse wheel is pretty hard to click for me and after a game of csgo ( i use the mouseclick for knife ) i start to feel a pain in my middle finger.. but the buttons are really good like your mention it's so smooth for the one tap on cs. it's because of the switch inside or the way they build the mouse ? because i want the same on my m42 !!! Cheers!!!
It's mostly the button tensioning on and the post travel that makes the clicks super smooth. Fairly certain that you can't make this happen on M42 without modifying the shell :(( EDIT: also thanks for the comment man 💪
@@hausgaming i was really impress with the np-01 buttons. i gonna wait the next xtrfy mouse ( not the zy one, she look like very small for me ) but if vaxee start to decide to go under the 75g they can really take a big part of the market i guess )
@@hausgaming the chat i have with them on DM, they are not really press to go on light mice now, ok 75/80g it's not heavy but my point of view, it's complicate to make a backward step when you come from lighter mice. m4/m42 - gpwX and others... I hope they gonna start to think about more light shells :)
Hey man I have 18.5 long hands so viper mini fits to me really nice should I get the vaxe ? Cause of better sensor would be great if you could help me out
@hausgaming Nice as usual man. Yea it's hard for these Zowie guys to kill that damn loud ass scroll wheel. Don't know why it's such a hard feat to do? For now I am enjoying the NP-01 and suppose I will have to stick to it for a little while longer. Been using it for over two weeks now and no issues so far. Just wondering should I put the button response on the NP at 2 as well? Thanks again for taking time out of your regular work schedule to make this video for us. @Voxoo you guys need to get these mice available in Hausgaming area.
I've been using this mouse for the past couple days and I've been absolutely loving it. It's extremely comfortable to use and I aim just as well if not better than my current main mice that I rotate on my desk: Viper mini, pulsefire haste, & XM1 RGB
@@Ishi112 definitely feels a lot bigger after using the viper mini but I still aim very well with it. I do wish they could make an XM1 mini but other than that it is one of my favorite shapes
@@hausgaming I mean, I'm used to small ambi mice (Viper Mini, G305, Model O- are my fav mice) should I wait for the O- wireless? Or I can just try ergo?
@@Sopratsu Can't tell you what you should try and what you shouldn't. If the O- is ur absolute favourite mouse, wait for the MO-W, if you want to try an ergo mouse, get the Outset AX. Impossible to predict if you will like it or not if you haven't tested any other ergos before :). It's not an exact science.
Awesome review as always mate, would you be so kind and recommend a mouse for me, since I cannot find my endgame mouse.. I have 19x9.5 cm hands, and I use claw grip. I recently tried xtrfy m42 but it felt too small for me, and also had EC2 before, and I really liked the ergonomic design, however it felt like it was too high profile so it bothered me a bit. I dont have a budget but I dont need a wireless mouse.. thanks a lot in advance!
@@hausgaming I feel like I preffer ergo mice over ambi mice because I like to rest my fingers on the right side of the mouse, like on EC2, however, the high profile bothered me a lot so I felt like I need ergonomic mouse which is not high profile.. I was looking up VAXEE ZYGEN NP 01 but it seems like a tiny mouse and im worried that its gonna be too small for me. The XTRFY M42 felt good but it felt too thin for me.. so it was very uncomfortable for me to play with it even tho I really liked the shell with the hump and I was playing good with it overall.
@@onss_ You have to realize that there is no such thing as a perfect mouse for like 90% of the people. We all need to make compromises somewhere, NP-01 might be good, but you are running out of options after that one if you want an ergo mouse
If you like the shape of this then I would recommend the new corsair sabre pro champion series. It is nothing special in terms of build quality and clicks(they get the job done), but this mouse shape is very unique and my new fav in terms of shape. That says allot cause I have used all the top mice. Never thot id reccomend a corsair mouse, because they are terrible for fps games, but this one just feels very good in hand. I almost overlooked it, but was at best buy and put my hand on it and bought it just based off of shape alone without looking at any of the reviews. Good cord for stock cord and the feet def get the job done once they are given a chance to break in...
I bought the Outset AX recently and have no regrets, very comfortable shape that works for gaming and general purpose. I also like that it does not require software and has a mature design, so it is my daily driver for now.
But you palm your mouse by actually resting your *entire* palm on the mouse? Most people still have the bottom of their wrist touching the pad (barely) and rest the 'rest' of their palm on the mouse. Otherwise there really wouldn't be any mouse that can be palmed by anyone with larger than 19 (or 19.5) cm hands.
I think its more a preference some prefer a smoother wheel but i actually really like the scroll wheel being quite tactile with defined steps and i do like that its recessed somewhat for me its a great wheel!
@@hausgaming Nope.But still i cant imagine,only thing that was about 10m huano was that it was hard to press the button.Compared to Omrons for example.Maybe they tuned the mouse so it feal tactile.Idk.
damn, its a really good mouse and i want it so bad, but 10 euros for 10 day shipping??? Dude, i think they have placed their EU shop in Portugal and im from Spain, IM NOT THAT FAR AWAY for such a terrible shipping!!
@@destroymax2033 Hi Max, normally it would take 1-2 days to Spain but with COVID, registered mail got a lot slower. Registered Mail is flat rate across Europe, so even if you are in Galizia, would still be 10€ :\ The 18€ option takes 1 day.
@@VAXEE Actually, I dont know if im crazy or not, but i just bought it a few minutes ago and i've spent 18 extra euros. I really like ur mouse and I apreciate your activity in social media, you litterally answered every single opinion in twitter/reddit/YT i post
Its pretty unusual to see brands responding to feedback as much as you do. Thats +10 points from me, and a huge detail that may atract more ppl to your products
If someone tells you that they followed me on Twitter and their aim didn't improve, they are lying. twitter.com/hausgameS_
One of the few mice I immediately started playing just as good or even better with it, no adjustment time need and that's quite rare for me, good review!
Glad to know! I needed some adjustment time, but I play very well with it now. 💪
Can say that this is my main. I don't know how to describe it, but it just feels intuitive i guess. If you are used to claw gripping ergo mice, this is probably going to feel amazing for you.
I know exactly what you mean!
Great production value on this video! The lighting is insane 💯
Thanks man, glad you liked it!! 💪
Mine should hopefully arrive today, I've been tracking that shipping like a mad man. Great review mate.
Haha thanks! Hope you enjoy it!
Do you like the mouse? :)
@@lepari9986 oh yeah.
Great review man! I've been enjoying the Outset AX a lot! Its too big for my relaxed claw though so I end up kinda palming it. Love the new coating as well!
Yeah it's awesome! What size are your hands?
@@hausgaming Mine (Gus) are 9.25cm(w) 17.14(L) we are about the same.
@@HardwareUnpluGGed My hands are 11 cm (W) 18 cm (L). Do you think I can use this with a relaxed claw grip?
Great quality review as always, was really hyped to see this one! 😁😁
Thanks! 😁 hope you enjoyed it man 💪
Awesome review, enjoyed seeing the matte version in action!
Glad you liked it! Waiting for the next VAXEE mouse already :D
Great review! Just ordered mines today.
Thanks man, hopefully you enjoy yours as much as I do!
Its now 2023 and I await the wireless review! ROLL ON! ❤
Great review, brother!
Glad you liked it! 💪💪
just found your channel, very good quality reviews! i can't wait for vaxee to release some variant of an fk2 clone, that would be endgame for me
Thanks man, much appreciated! They might skip similiar shapes to FK2 as there are quite many of them already, but very interested to see what's coming from them.
@@hausgaming I hope there will be an ZA Vaxee
@@Shaped1124 Holy shit man do not put those beautiful thoughts into my mind
I've been waiting for this one!
👍💪
So many good mice this year. Everyone wants my money 😅 very Good Video as always =)
Haha exactly man :D when does this end?! Thanks 💪👍
Just picked this mouse up 2 days ago and I'm loving it the higher profile is perfect for me fills the hand alot more than the ec2 and the shorter length is great for vertical adjustments, I'm trying the Corepads on it but I have a spare set of the stock if I feel like I want to go back to those, top review agree with nearly all of what you said keep it up dude
Glad you enjoy it, but wtf, not a single joke in a comment?! U good man?
Great review i agree with you mostly except that my sometimes sweaty hands don't enjoy this coating and the scroll being loud and heavy doesn't matter to me personally. Definetely my new favorite ergo shape, dethroning the mighty EC2.
Fair enough! Yea I am not bothered by the scroll wheel either, I'd still prefer a softer scrolling experience though.
@@hausgaming yea it should be softer and less noisy and i get why it's a huge turn off for a lot of people.
Hey I love these reviews. My hands are 18x9 and I like relaxed claw. I have an xm1 right now and I’m debating if I should get a za13 or s2 but I don’t know which one will feel the best. I’m looking for narrow mouse with a hump that hits the very centre of the palm. a reply would be appreciated
Hey man, I think both of them are good, ZA13 has a more pronounced hump where as the S2 has a flatter one.
@@hausgaming which one hits the middle of the palm / knuckles for you ?
@@voitek7944 ZA13
Great review! Whould you choose this or the mm711 (ergo or ambi) for claw grip but i grip the mouse at the back so i kinda have a hyprid grip.
I prefer the Outset AX myself!
Which di you prefer matte black or glossy white version?
nice! is the matte coating comparable to the white Xm1 coating?
Feels much better in my opinion. This is on the Superlight / Kone Pure Ultra level.
2ms 4ms 8ms, which one do you use? And what do most pros use? I'm under stress because of this, please help
Use 2ms!
@@hausgaming Are most experts and users using 2ms? I'm under stress because the click-through rate is so fast. Please help me which one to use
나가 its lower latency so always use 2 unless u specifically want the debounce lasting longer, i heard minecraft players liked debounce higher or something, i just know that for fps u want 2ms
@@stefanpapdi5151 thank you
What is your config in cs go? of video? dpi?
Hi! I linked you the cfg on Twitter
so, is this more of an EC2 clone where as the NP-01 is more of an S2 clone?
yes but not 1:1, a more modified version. like ec2.5 or s2.5
Neither of them are really clones, these are new designs. Some parts of them match, but I wouldn't call these clones.
any mice recommendation for palm grip user?
Depends on your hand size. Model O can be good, this one can be good, even Superlight can be solid!
@@hausgaming thx for the quick reply!
Beautiful man, beautiful mouse, beautiful review.
Haha 😂, thank you kindly!
thank you for the review :)
My pleasure!
your content become better and better ( i talk about the quality of your filming !!! )
The problem of vaxee it's the weight for me now, it's complicate to come back from the m42 or m4 and try to play with a 80g mouse now :(
For me the cable it's ok not so disturbing
the mouse wheel is pretty hard to click for me and after a game of csgo ( i use the mouseclick for knife ) i start to feel a pain in my middle finger..
but the buttons are really good like your mention it's so smooth for the one tap on cs. it's because of the switch inside or the way they build the mouse ? because i want the same on my m42 !!!
Cheers!!!
It's mostly the button tensioning on and the post travel that makes the clicks super smooth. Fairly certain that you can't make this happen on M42 without modifying the shell :((
EDIT: also thanks for the comment man 💪
@@hausgaming i was really impress with the np-01 buttons. i gonna wait the next xtrfy mouse ( not the zy one, she look like very small for me ) but if vaxee start to decide to go under the 75g they can really take a big part of the market i guess )
@@smachine3811 Yea I agree, will be interesting to see if they want to go for lower weight at some point!
@@hausgaming the chat i have with them on DM, they are not really press to go on light mice now, ok 75/80g it's not heavy but my point of view, it's complicate to make a backward step when you come from lighter mice. m4/m42 - gpwX and others... I hope they gonna start to think about more light shells :)
Same hand size here. Which mouse do you recommend for true palm grippers?
DA V2, EC1, FK1, Model O u can try any of these mice.
How would you describe the feeling of this mouse compared to the xtrfy m4? I absolutely love the m4 as it’s easy to claw grip for me
Quite a bit larger in terms of height, fills your palm more than the M4
@@hausgaming thanks for the reply. And thank you for the reviews. Glad to hear from someone who claw grips as well.
Hey man I have 18.5 long hands so viper mini fits to me really nice should I get the vaxe ? Cause of better sensor would be great if you could help me out
Sensor is definitely better, but it's a lot bigger and completely different to the Viper Mini. I can't predict if you will like it or not :(
You said your not sure if its good for thin and short hands. My hand size is 17x9 cm and i have a chubby hands so is it good?
Your hands are not too thin or short. Should be comfortable if you just like the shape!
@@hausgaming i always wanted to try a small ergo mouse is this the way to go? Haha
@@paulmartinez34 Skoll Mini is still much smaller, EC2 is lower profile if you tend to not like high profile mice.
@hausgaming Nice as usual man. Yea it's hard for these Zowie guys to kill that damn loud ass scroll wheel. Don't know why it's such a hard feat to do? For now I am enjoying the NP-01 and suppose I will have to stick to it for a little while longer. Been using it for over two weeks now and no issues so far. Just wondering should I put the button response on the NP at 2 as well? Thanks again for taking time out of your regular work schedule to make this video for us. @Voxoo you guys need to get these mice available in Hausgaming area.
Thanks man! Yes definitely get used to the 2ms response time, it might take a while, but you will benefit from it!
I was thinking of getting a model d minus or an ec2 but now this came out and looks very good. Might have to get it
Yea I would definitely recommend this over those tweo!
@@hausgaming Also if I didn't like the matte coating on my s2 should I get glossy on this mouse or is the coating better
@@chase6994 Coating is better than the stock Zowie coating. If you generally hate matte coatings you might not like this either though.
@@hausgaming No im fine with all other matte coatings I've had. thank you
Which is better for tilt grip zowie ec2-c or the vaxxee outset ax?
Outset AX!
@@hausgamingty for replying love your content. also for sweaty hands do u recommend me getting the glossy version or the matte in your opinion (:
@@dylan3886 99% of the time you want matte for sweaty hands!
Any advice on this vs EC3-C?
17.7 x 8.8cm Palm-claw or claw gripish
EC3-C might be more well suited for you
@@hausgaming thanks haus 👍🏻 hope your channel blows up, your work is underrated
Why does it only have up to 2ms response unlike the 1ms on most mice?
1ms is bs in most cases, the Outset AX and the NP-01 have extremely good click latency. Not really beat by many mice.
I've been using this mouse for the past couple days and I've been absolutely loving it. It's extremely comfortable to use and I aim just as well if not better than my current main mice that I rotate on my desk: Viper mini, pulsefire haste, & XM1 RGB
The OUTSET AX pairs very well with the odin infinity or zowie GTF-X pad
Yea I've been using it with my Odin Inifinty Hybrid and it works very well with the stock skates! 💪
How do You feel about XM1 after trying the Viper mini?
The XM1 feels too big for me since I got the RVM :D
@@Ishi112 definitely feels a lot bigger after using the viper mini but I still aim very well with it. I do wish they could make an XM1 mini but other than that it is one of my favorite shapes
@@SKULLBLAST3R for me it will probably be whichever comes first, wireless rvm or wireless xm1
it is a good mouse for my 17x10 hands - relaxed claw?
Should definitely work for your hand size!
@@hausgaming I mean, I'm used to small ambi mice (Viper Mini, G305, Model O- are my fav mice) should I wait for the O- wireless? Or I can just try ergo?
@@Sopratsu Can't tell you what you should try and what you shouldn't. If the O- is ur absolute favourite mouse, wait for the MO-W, if you want to try an ergo mouse, get the Outset AX. Impossible to predict if you will like it or not if you haven't tested any other ergos before :). It's not an exact science.
i love these have details honest reviews
Thanks man! Much appreciated.
Awesome review as always mate, would you be so kind and recommend a mouse for me, since I cannot find my endgame mouse.. I have 19x9.5 cm hands, and I use claw grip. I recently tried xtrfy m42 but it felt too small for me, and also had EC2 before, and I really liked the ergonomic design, however it felt like it was too high profile so it bothered me a bit. I dont have a budget but I dont need a wireless mouse.. thanks a lot in advance!
You might want to try something like the XM1r, what was the main issue with the M42 size? Width, length or height?
@@hausgaming I feel like I preffer ergo mice over ambi mice because I like to rest my fingers on the right side of the mouse, like on EC2, however, the high profile bothered me a lot so I felt like I need ergonomic mouse which is not high profile.. I was looking up VAXEE ZYGEN NP 01 but it seems like a tiny mouse and im worried that its gonna be too small for me. The XTRFY M42 felt good but it felt too thin for me.. so it was very uncomfortable for me to play with it even tho I really liked the shell with the hump and I was playing good with it overall.
@@onss_ You have to realize that there is no such thing as a perfect mouse for like 90% of the people. We all need to make compromises somewhere, NP-01 might be good, but you are running out of options after that one if you want an ergo mouse
@@hausgaming Well, im gonna give it a shot. Anyways, thanks a lot for your reply, have a good one!
Maybe intellimouse pro or model d-？
I like the Vaxee mice, but that scroll wheel sounds horrible
I can live with it myself though!
Imagine if Logitech made a mouse with their wireless tech and Zowie ec2 shape
hey what is your arm screen?
arm screen? what do you mean?
@@hausgaming I mean, the arm with your screen on!
Idk what's the english name
@@Sopratsu Ahh monitor arm? no clue it's a random one from amazon
Would I be able to palm this mouse at 17.5 x 9.7 cm hands?
Most likely yes!
@@hausgaming Thank you
Viewer engagement for the perkele Algorithm
😂👍
glossy vs matte with dry hands?
If your hands do not sweat, then glossy.
You play cs go streeched or native
Stretched atm!
Best mouse for pincher claw hands down😍
which mice at your "top spot" currently?
Xtrfy M42, this and Viper Ultimate
@@hausgaming no ambi？
@@zhiqiwan1659 Sry what you mean with no ambi?
@@hausgaming Haha sorry for my english. I meant to say "no ERGO mouse at your 'top spot'"?
If you like the shape of this then I would recommend the new corsair sabre pro champion series. It is nothing special in terms of build quality and clicks(they get the job done), but this mouse shape is very unique and my new fav in terms of shape. That says allot cause I have used all the top mice. Never thot id reccomend a corsair mouse, because they are terrible for fps games, but this one just feels very good in hand. I almost overlooked it, but was at best buy and put my hand on it and bought it just based off of shape alone without looking at any of the reviews. Good cord for stock cord and the feet def get the job done once they are given a chance to break in...
Might review it some point in the future!
I got this mouse and I really like the shape, but I'm actually terrible when using it in game lol
Give yourself time to adjust to it for a couple of weeks at least, it's a very unique shape!
@@hausgaming for sure, only been about a week
Here before Yiepie
poopoo
lmao
@@yiepie9822 unpoopoo me immediately
@@knotenbauer8953 never
@@yiepie9822 then parish like all the other zoomets who try Qwuek 1v1 against me
I bought the Outset AX recently and have no regrets, very comfortable shape that works for gaming and general purpose. I also like that it does not require software and has a mature design, so it is my daily driver for now.
It's amazing!
I paid extra for UPS and my package got lost :D
Damn, that's unlucky man 🙁
how could your package get lost, like what happend next did u get a refund at least?
kAMMYz_
I subconsciously recognized your thumbnail style but I didn't recognize your reddit name. Sounds like a csgo name ^_-
Haha! That's my real online alias I would say. From CS & Call of duty yes
But you palm your mouse by actually resting your *entire* palm on the mouse? Most people still have the bottom of their wrist touching the pad (barely) and rest the 'rest' of their palm on the mouse. Otherwise there really wouldn't be any mouse that can be palmed by anyone with larger than 19 (or 19.5) cm hands.
are you finnish?
Yes!
Here after Knotenbauer :(
Bahahahahaha
The scroll wheel is actually the best around, why downgrade? =)
Haha no way man! :D Tbh it's quite a lot better than the standar Zowie / NP-01 wheel, but it's still sort of a meme!
I think its more a preference some prefer a smoother wheel but i actually really like the scroll wheel being quite tactile with defined steps and i do like that its recessed somewhat for me its a great wheel!
What is your sens in Valorant?...complete out of the blue...maybe this question was answered like a 100 times xD...
0.24 1600 DPI I think!
i hope they do shipping to morocco thats difinitly my futur mouse
Hopefully you can get one man!
I had in one mouse 10m huano and they feal not tactile...
Do you think that ALL mice with Huano 10M:s will feel the same regarding click feeling?
@@hausgaming Nope.But still i cant imagine,only thing that was about 10m huano was that it was hard to press the button.Compared to Omrons for example.Maybe they tuned the mouse so it feal tactile.Idk.
@@babyyou548 For me the NP-01 and the Outset AX have very tactile clicks, same as the Ducky Feather with Huanos! These feel definitely very good
@@hausgaming ducky have 50m huano i can confirmed thats switch is rly tactile.
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damn, its a really good mouse and i want it so bad, but 10 euros for 10 day shipping??? Dude, i think they have placed their EU shop in Portugal and im from Spain, IM NOT THAT FAR AWAY for such a terrible shipping!!
Is it 10 euros for you as well?
@@hausgaming yep, i can pay even more for 1-7 day shipping tho. But minimum is 10
@@destroymax2033 Hi Max, normally it would take 1-2 days to Spain but with COVID, registered mail got a lot slower. Registered Mail is flat rate across Europe, so even if you are in Galizia, would still be 10€ :\ The 18€ option takes 1 day.
@@VAXEE Actually, I dont know if im crazy or not, but i just bought it a few minutes ago and i've spent 18 extra euros. I really like ur mouse and I apreciate your activity in social media, you litterally answered every single opinion in twitter/reddit/YT i post
Its pretty unusual to see brands responding to feedback as much as you do. Thats +10 points from me, and a huge detail that may atract more ppl to your products
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