WARNING: in the very likely situation that you, like me, install this AFTER the MB has been installed inside the case, DO NOT remove the default black plastic retention brackets that come with the MB (did this to prepare for the CPU cooler installation) because once you take out the screws shown here, the backplate will fall from the MB causing headaches. This video already shows the retention brackets in place but does not explicitly instruct to leave them installed.
Thank you for making this a reasonable price. If you were Thermal Grizzly, it would be $50. You guys are killing it lately. I've successfully had two people upgrade to Peerless Assassins this month alone.
Thanks a lot Thermalright, I earned between -2 / -4 degrees Celsius by using your Secure Frame, works fine! Good job and keep doing RIGHT! Cheers by Alex from Italy
Also for heavy air coolers, as they can bend boards over time. A horizontally mounted board can bow downward, while a vertical mounted board can bow outward from the weight. This basically limits that by reinforcing the area. But I'm still suspicious if the contact frame would cause issues eventually, because it will expand with heat, which could lead to it putting too much pressure on the socket.
I have been building PCs for a long time as a side gig, and just started building on AM5 about a year ago. I just wanted to note that in nearly all systems that I installed this frame to, DID NOT see thermal improvement. They actually saw (on about 25 builds) 2-4c increase of CPU temps and a 2-6c increase in system temps. This can be cancelled out using a watercooler, which has become a standard request in my builds. It DOES support the CPU much better than normal stock frame, it DOES protect very well against any spill from paste and most importantly Liquid Metal, which is the reason I began using this frame, as LM is conductive and can fry a system if there is any spill. I think it's a good product, fair priced, and I support it. Just don't think it will reduce temps.
@@jthiel0711 Have you heard about the 'bending' which can decrease heat dissipation at square shaped IHS? I didn't heard about it at all. LGA115X and AM4 have no issue like LGA1700 because they are not rectangular. And AM5 is square, not rectangular. I don't think it is irrational guess, think simply.
Barely past hand tight. I have a torque screwdriver also, and on it's lowest setting it still doesn't trigger at the tightness these need, as anything more will cause memory channel issues. Can't stress enough, turn the screws in a star pattern until they show resistance, then only tighten then maybe 1/8th turn more, if that. Besides, AM5 doesn't benefit from this is ANY way aside from thermal paste mess. It won't lower temps, it'll just make cleanup easier, and possibly cause memory issues. A basic gasket is honestly a better option, and will allow the application of Liquid Metal since it's not aluminum like this is.
On your instruction manual that comes with the Secure Frame, the Frame is shown to be installed upside down - the arrow is pointing at the bottom right, towards the bottom of the RAM slots. Which one is correct??
The arrow just matches the arrow on the socket, which is top left(always depending from what persepctive you're looking ofc). It's just to help people remember how to place the CPU inside the socket. I think it's mainly a "design" choice since to remove the cpu you got to remove the secure frame again and the arrow of the socket will be visible again. So don't overthink it and place it the right side up :)
I guess it still can act to prevent thermal paste pump out effect over time, noctua has similar solution, might go with whatever is cheaper, because bending itself is not an issue on AM5
@@Nomokuto I found that thermalright is way cheaper on chinese sites, plus it will still keep the rigidity just in case, so I think I will personally go with their Secure Frame
Really need something like this for am4 this makes for such a clean simple install much better than the janky arm lock we have used for years for that alone its worth it not sure on temps yet as long as it doesn't raise them do not really care
I have it... installed on an Asus Crosshair Extreme board...works perfectly but I haven't seen any temp reduction. The frame just guarantees you that the socket will never warp or bend the motherboard over extended period of use. If you have an expensive custom loop with hard tubing, etc. this is worth getting so that you don't have to ever worry about disassembling it because of hot spots.
@emircanydn I bought it and I see no difference with the original piece. Some people say it drops 3 degrees, so so. I'm currently using the original part.
@emircanydn So far I don't have it, I have a Ryzen 7800X3D and it works wonderfully, in heavy games with an ambient temperature of 38° it goes to 71°. I live in Costa Rica and it is summer.
Lo primero que deberias de conseguir es un cerebro, pues destornillador viene incluido en el marco Thermalright, y es de la medida exacta de los tornillos para no dañarlos
WARNING: in the very likely situation that you, like me, install this AFTER the MB has been installed inside the case, DO NOT remove the default black plastic retention brackets that come with the MB (did this to prepare for the CPU cooler installation) because once you take out the screws shown here, the backplate will fall from the MB causing headaches. This video already shows the retention brackets in place but does not explicitly instruct to leave them installed.
I did this. What a pain in the butt to get the bracket back on before I can install the contact frame. Put the brackets back on before installation!
Glad i read this comment before I started installing. Thank you!
Thanks for the warning
Wish I had found this comment sooner.
That was an absolute pain in the ass to install.
Would the cpu cooler bracket work, if already installed?
Thank you for making this a reasonable price.
If you were Thermal Grizzly, it would be $50.
You guys are killing it lately. I've successfully had two people upgrade to Peerless Assassins this month alone.
yeah i agree, great price, seems like the sensible thing to do for EVERY AM5 build
And the vid would be on OF
@@zythum999 only fans?
@jamescoleman3103 I wasn't filling out my starting lineup for a baseball game. Of course.
ditto, jumped to a nice FS140 thanks to these guys. happy to support them they are doing great work.
Thanks a lot Thermalright, I earned between -2 / -4 degrees Celsius by using your Secure Frame, works fine! Good job and keep doing RIGHT! Cheers by Alex from Italy
This is mainly for thermal paste not getting into notches, not temps.
Also for heavy air coolers, as they can bend boards over time. A horizontally mounted board can bow downward, while a vertical mounted board can bow outward from the weight. This basically limits that by reinforcing the area. But I'm still suspicious if the contact frame would cause issues eventually, because it will expand with heat, which could lead to it putting too much pressure on the socket.
Gonna love it on my upgrade from an i7 7330> ryzen 5 7500f
I have been building PCs for a long time as a side gig, and just started building on AM5 about a year ago. I just wanted to note that in nearly all systems that I installed this frame to, DID NOT see thermal improvement. They actually saw (on about 25 builds) 2-4c increase of CPU temps and a 2-6c increase in system temps. This can be cancelled out using a watercooler, which has become a standard request in my builds. It DOES support the CPU much better than normal stock frame, it DOES protect very well against any spill from paste and most importantly Liquid Metal, which is the reason I began using this frame, as LM is conductive and can fry a system if there is any spill. I think it's a good product, fair priced, and I support it. Just don't think it will reduce temps.
It's for warp/better supporting the motherboard/cooler, don't believe this was ever marketed as reducing temps
have you tested TEMPS before and after ? i know intel benefits from using it but what about AMD ?
I think CPU temp may stay same or even a bit higher. AM5 has no bending issue so I'm skeptical about this thing.
@@ThermalLeft "AM5 has no bending issue" - has this been tested somewhere? Where is GamerNexus when you need them!
@@jthiel0711 Have you heard about the 'bending' which can decrease heat dissipation at square shaped IHS?
I didn't heard about it at all. LGA115X and AM4 have no issue like LGA1700 because they are not rectangular. And AM5 is square, not rectangular.
I don't think it is irrational guess, think simply.
@@ThermalLeft Well AM5 moved to LGA socket so I wasn't sure.
@@ThermalLeft AM5 is not square. It's rectangular as you can see the frame is also rectangular. Pin count is different but the socket is same as AM4.
I hope thermalright make an offset for am5 just like noctua that compatible of there low profile cpu cooler
Can i use it together with the grizzly kryosheet or should i worried for electric cotact ?
The CPU heat spreader and the contact frame have no part in the electrical characteristics of the motherboard, so there won't be any issue.
@@ItsMotoMatt thank you
Is it for air cooler ? Cuz AIO aren't putting much weight on CPU
what torque Nm do you use? I have a torque screwdriver
Barely past hand tight. I have a torque screwdriver also, and on it's lowest setting it still doesn't trigger at the tightness these need, as anything more will cause memory channel issues.
Can't stress enough, turn the screws in a star pattern until they show resistance, then only tighten then maybe 1/8th turn more, if that.
Besides, AM5 doesn't benefit from this is ANY way aside from thermal paste mess. It won't lower temps, it'll just make cleanup easier, and possibly cause memory issues. A basic gasket is honestly a better option, and will allow the application of Liquid Metal since it's not aluminum like this is.
On your instruction manual that comes with the Secure Frame, the Frame is shown to be installed upside down - the arrow is pointing at the bottom right, towards the bottom of the RAM slots. Which one is correct??
The arrow just matches the arrow on the socket, which is top left(always depending from what persepctive you're looking ofc). It's just to help people remember how to place the CPU inside the socket. I think it's mainly a "design" choice since to remove the cpu you got to remove the secure frame again and the arrow of the socket will be visible again. So don't overthink it and place it the right side up :)
Arrow on CPU should match arrow on the frame, which it does in this video. If any instructions indicate otherwise there's a mistake.
i bought a red one, very nice little piecethe cooler i also use thermalright's axp120 x67
Will this be compatible if my cooler is the Noctua NH-U12S? Or just thermalright coolers?
Yup. Just installed mine with that cooler.
The plate sits just below the height of the cpu.
Thought bending is only a problem in Intel cpus cause they are rectangle. should be fine on the amd no matter what no?
I guess it still can act to prevent thermal paste pump out effect over time, noctua has similar solution, might go with whatever is cheaper, because bending itself is not an issue on AM5
@@northwakes Ok ty. Which Noctua do u mean?
@@Nomokuto Noctua NA-TPG1 thermal paste guard
@@Nomokuto I found that thermalright is way cheaper on chinese sites, plus it will still keep the rigidity just in case, so I think I will personally go with their Secure Frame
também ajuda na temperatura no meu ryzen 7 7700x diminuiu cerca de 10 graus
Thk you for this product.
I just recieved mine for a new 7000 series build. Thank you for the high quality machining, love the shiny outline. 🫰
Is there even a use case of using a contact frame in am5 platform?
For what I've seen, it' helps to lower the CPU temps a few degrees and also for thermal paste applications not spreading around the IHS
@@JorgeAlarconL it's also to prevent CPU concavity over time. This is more prevalent on Intel, but can also happen on AMD.
I am having pressure issues on my x570 board, is this compatible?
no, it's only for am5 socket, you have am4
Really need something like this for am4 this makes for such a clean simple install much better than the janky arm lock we have used for years for that alone its worth it not sure on temps yet as long as it doesn't raise them do not really care
Will this work with Thermalright Macho Rev.B?
It will work with any cooler. Does not effect cooler compatibility. 😎
Anyone have any experience using this frame? About to do a AM5 build and tempted to grab this.
I have it... installed on an Asus Crosshair Extreme board...works perfectly but I haven't seen any temp reduction. The frame just guarantees you that the socket will never warp or bend the motherboard over extended period of use. If you have an expensive custom loop with hard tubing, etc. this is worth getting so that you don't have to ever worry about disassembling it because of hot spots.
@@GSP-76 and also this thing makes it a lot easier to apply thermal paste
@@justbastihere4246 Yup, definitely...it fills in the gaps on the sides of AM5 CPUs.
@@GSP-76 No issues with a waterblock on this?
yes used this almost straight away on 7700x, makes installing and swapping CPU coolers much easier and cleaner
Intel: "Thank you to advertising our VC, Thermalright".
I have one in my 7800X3D!
@emircanydn I bought it and I see no difference with the original piece. Some people say it drops 3 degrees, so so. I'm currently using the original part.
@emircanydn So far I don't have it, I have a Ryzen 7800X3D and it works wonderfully, in heavy games with an ambient temperature of 38° it goes to 71°. I live in Costa Rica and it is summer.
@emircanydn its for asthetics and to keep thermal paste from entering the cpu ihs. its only $8 and worth it for the mess it prevents
@@alfer9920 how the fk you play in 38c.............
@@EnnTomi1 38°C is CPU idle, not room temperature... ;-)
Merhaba bu braket sıvı soğutma ile kullanıma uygunmu ?
It works with any / all coolers for AM5. I'm using one with a custom loop right now.
@@dantecoal7584 thanks
First thing to do, get yourself a decent screwdriver! 😉
😂
Lo primero que deberias de conseguir es un cerebro, pues destornillador viene incluido en el marco Thermalright, y es de la medida exacta de los tornillos para no dañarlos
Lol, that's exactly what I did. Immediately grabbed my T20 from my Xbox modding days.
LTT - hold my beer
i mean it's 4 screws xD i wouldn't go that out my way