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Wen 56200i vs Predator 2000w Generator Review
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2018
- This is a side-by-side comparison of the Wen 56200i 2000 watt and the Predator 2000 watt generator. We test each generator against a 1500 watt portable heater and a 5000 BTU air conditioner.
Which generator performs better? You decide....
WEN 56200i - HOME DEPOT $448.94 /each
The WEN 2,000-Watt Inverter Generator produces clean energy free of voltage spikes and drops with less than 3% total harmonic distortion, making it safe enough to run laptops, cellphones, monitors, tablets and other vulnerable electronics. Generate 2,000 surge Watt and 1,600 rated Watt of power.
Our 79.7cc 4-stroke OHV engine operates at an extremely quiet 51 decibels, quieter than a window air conditioner or the average conversation. This limits its invasiveness while hunting, camping, tailgating and restoring back-up power.
The lightweight design makes for easy portability while the ultra-efficient 1 Gal. tank provides over 6 hours of half-load run time. This fully-packed panel comes equipped with two 3-prong 120-Volt receptacles, one 12-Volt DC receptacle and one 5-Volt USB port. Indication lights on the front of the panel provide overload and low-oil warnings.
The automatic shutter controls the intake of gasoline to match the wattage at hand, maximizing fuel economy. Need more energy easily link up two generators using a parallel kit (sold separately) in order to share wattage amongst multiple units. And because this is a WEN Product, your inverter generator comes backed by a 2-year warranty, a nationwide network of skilled service technicians and a friendly customer helpline.
*Extremely quiet 51 dB operation minimizes noise; EPA III and CARB compliant
*79.7cc 4-stroke OHV engine produces 2,000 surge watt and 1,600 rated watt
*Great for the campgrounds, the country, the parking lot and power outages
*Produces clean power to prevent damage from sensitive electronics such as smart phones, tablets and laptops
*Includes two 3-prong 120-Volt receptacles, one 12-Volt DC receptacle and one 5-Volt USB port
*$448.94 /each
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PREDATOR - HARBOR FREIGHT $499.99 /each
Using built-in inverter technology this inverter generator produces a cleaner power curve ideal for sensitive electronics. The efficient design of this inverter generator gives you more power with lower fuel consumption.
Lighter weight than conventional generators, the inverter generator is ideal for camping, boating, and RV use with the optional RV Ready Parallel kit from Predator.
Double your power with parallel capability - Need more power? Add a second Predator 2000 unit with optional RV Ready Predator Parallel Kit for up to 4,000 Watts of power.
*79.7cc air-cooled OHV gas engine
*Run time: 6-1/2 hours @ 50% capacity
*Low oil indicator
*Fully enclosed high-impact housing
*Electronic overload protection
*(2) 120VAC grounded outlets, (1) DC-12V Two Pin Outlet
*Recoil start
*$499.99 /each
I have watched a lot of UA-cam review videos for all kinds of stuff. Hands down this one of best videos I have ever watched. To the point, covered many points, and solid tests.
Predator is way more quiet than the Wen. I used my studio head phones just to compare. well done gentleman..
Thank you Jason Day... I am inclined to believe the Predator is quieter too!
The only way to know for sure if it is very close is a db meter. You can't tell on a video because the camera normalizes the audio to a set level.
L O L your fancy headphones don't matter ... My God this world is filled with some silly gooses
Camera's have all kinds of automatic things that can do a lot of funny things, you need a decibel meter to tell for sure. There's at least a 90% chance that both units are made in the same factory in China, with only minor differences in features and cosmetics so they all don't look alike. Look at the screwdrivers that came with both units, both are identical and the same unusual yellow color, same factory.
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Nice review. One thing that always gets me is, Why does everyone always open these packages the same way ?
Instead of cutting the top of the box....Tip it sideways and cut the bottom and spread the flaps out....
Put the box Upright ..... Then just lift the Box off of the Product....Easy as Pie !
You know... I never really thought of that, But it makes absolutely perfect sense! Great tip!
I just bought the Wen 2250 watt generator, model #56225i and I'm running it through it's paces right now. It's not my primary generator, so high output was not a factor. I wanted something that could power my fridge/ freezer more quietly and suck less fuel than my 5500 watt primary generator. So far, I'm impressed with the Wen #56225i. I've used it to power a 1500 watt space heater, electric fryer and a panini press. It will be perfect for camping or as light duty backup to my main generator. 1st hour oil change is complete, running it for 2 hours before dumping the oil again. I will switch to synthetic after 3 hours of total run time.
Current prices Predator $619.99, standard warranty and no tax added. Wen $339.99, added 4 year warranty $52.99, free shipping and no tax added. Wen wins hands down. Over a $225.00 difference. Nice video guys.
Thank you! Predator prices sky rocketed!!
Nice to see two friends enjoying a review 👍🏽 , God Bless You
Couple of cool guys that I wouldn't mind hanging out with. Great video guys. I have two of the Honda EU2000i generators (first gen, have had them since they first hit the market) that power my house during power outages & they have ran perfectly all of these years. I have seen the Predator generator locally & it handled the loads placed on it fine, my father has the larger none inverted WEN generator & it hasn't given him any issues in the past three to four years he has owned it.
Thanks MrNightro!
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Great video gentlemen. To avoid bogging down when starting heavy loads, do not start heavy loads on econo mode. Switch to econo mone once the load had started. Thanks again for good video.
Thank you! Thanks for the tip... I will do that! Thank you for stopping by!
I have been waiting for a review like this. Thank you gentlemen
Glad to have helped!
I have the older model WEN been using it for three years now to run a window AC unit in my semi..i can't say enough good things about it..it haven't skipped a beat yet..i run it continuously tru the night to keep from idling my rig..after three years I'm still using the original spark plug..it far exceeds factory running hours using 450 watts...depending on how i set the thermostat I've at best got a continuous 16 hours under good weather conditions..i would definitely recommend it..
Good testimony to a good product! Thank you for sharing!
How long will it run the AC before refueling
Randall Taylor 16 hours
2100 hours on mine...original spark plug also... Not a hint of issues! 12 hours runtime with my load on a 1.18 gallon (full tank). Its hook to my 39 ft 5th wheel!
What are the specs for power on the AC you are running with it?
Crazy that the HF model has better QC than the HD model. Times they are a changin' for sure! Thanks for the informative and well thought out video.
Same factory
Own two of the 56200i WEN's and love em. Great generator for the money. My first one is at close to 100hrs with no issues. Just picked up the second one and it's at 12hrs. WEN has a better warranty (2yrs) than the Predator (90 days). Both are pretty much the same, but you have to pay more money to get a real warranty on the Predator. Once you add the extra warranty the WEN is cheaper. Realistically if your good within 90 days (test it) you will probably not need the warranty. Predator did sound less noisy and didn't bog down as much on the AC.
Advice: Run some Brad Penn SAE 10w30 oil (high zinc) which is necessary for air cooled engines. Also change oil a couple times within the first 10hrs. You will see metal shavings in the oil from break in. Sooner you get it out the better. Magnetic oil dispstick works good and I also added a RPM/HR gauge (great mods).
Hey FTLAUD 911! Thanks for the comment! Actually, I am pretty happy with the WEN and think I made the right choice... I need to take a look at that exhaust and see if it is bent. If so... off it goes to get another one! Thanks for the tip on the oil, good advice. I did get the magnetic oil stick, so hopefully that will pick up the shavings once broke in! Thanks again!
FTLAUD 911 just use a 20 percent off coupon that is always available online, and buy the two year warranty, and it puts them about identical. And one thing is in my opinion it is much easier returning to harbor freight then home Depot. Harbor freight has never gave me a bit of hesitation, home Depot has. But two great generators
@@BK33REVIEWS All my 20% off Harbor Freight coupons say not applicable with Predator brand products.
Nice video! I just got the HF. I believe in heat cycling to break in a new engine. I'm using a 1500W hair dryer to increase the cyl. pressure to seat the rings. First few runs of 10? minutes with no load and full cool down. After that I use the hair dryer to sneak up on the loading in small bursts increasing the duration each time. Back in the day my buddy glazed the cylinder walls on his new Honda 350 because he babied it too much on the break in.
it's good to see neighbors get along and just hangout together
Absolutely some of the best times! :)
wait I thought the guy on right was trying to sell a generator to the guy on the left
Awesome, thanks guys. It's people like you who keep America's gears oiled and the public informed of important consumer choices.
Nice video Al. I appreciate the genuineness in every one of your videos. And it’s great to see you tag team with Jack on these recent videos 😊
Thank you Abin! Jack is a great neighbor! Hope to make more videos together!
Remove the side panel for servicing the Wen . Use the little access door for checking oil level.
I used to sell Honda generators. Nice units, but terribly pricey. The units you show here are good units for the money. Nice job on the demo, guys. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks bcgrittner!
Not even interested in a generator, these guys are just a good watch, takes you back to a early more wholesome UA-cam, (yes I know It's 4 years old, still)
Thank you! And thanks for watching! :)
You guys went a long way towards my being able to pass by any buyers remorse.
(I know..."a day late and a dollar short"...but) you have helped confirm that I may have gone the best route by choosing the Predator 2K in the first place as a matter of shear happenstance and a bit o' luck!!
Thanks!
I'm lucky sometimes. I'm Irish. And you guys are TOPS!
Thank ya Foxisms! Jack sure liked his Predator and would feel you made a good choice! Wouldn't mind having you around... could use a bit a that Irish luck!! :) Take care!
My friend burned his Predator 2000 inverter module running 1800 watts by mistake. Took 3 minutes and poof. There is no breaker to trip out. When in overload the inverter module melts. Never expect to run a 1500 watt load on this without melting it. Inverter Module plus labor $275 plus. Predator,Wen,Roybi 1.6Kw Inverter Generator 120V/240V 60Hz MPN: 30043-Y5V1210-0000 all use this inverter module and are basicly the same.
5000 btu Ac uses 500 watts real power and 100 watts or so reactance power. So 600 watts is what it uses. Check the watts and VA rating and power factor.
Good information! Thanks
Perfect work gentlemans. Greetings from venezuela the country that ran over 100hrs last week. I have a eu2000 and went perfect trough those 5 days. A friend ran a predator 2000 and a 9000 and both also did a perfect job. Never seen a wen so i cant speak for that but under this deplorable circumstances that we went, predator and honda saved our food, our water, and our minds.
If i were in the market for a 2000w generator, i would go with predator.
Thank you Yosue! Glad you made it through such a terrible time and your generators were able to see you through! From what I hear, the Wen and the Predator are made in the same factory. The Wen is manufactured for Home Depot and the Predator is manufactured for Harbor Freight. I would have to say then... if the Predator was able to help get you through the tough time, the Wen should be just as reliable! Thank you for stopping by!
@@OregonBatman after going trough what i mentioned before, the predator started to surge. i had to set it almost on choke to avoid the surging. i took out the carb, cleaned deeply, inspected the jet, etc and the surging was still there. i contacted HF and they said that i had to wait 16 WEEKS for a carb replace. i said what? are you kidding me? are you gonna make from zero? They said they dont have parts in any store, they have to mae a special order to china and that is why it takes so long. For that bad experience, we ended up almost gifting the predator and we are selling the 9000 before give us a "surprise" and prevented my friends from buying 6 predators, and went with 6 briggs & stratton. i will never ever get anything from HF. By the time we are only getting 4 hours of electricity daily, im actually writing this thanks to my generator
@@yosuecaridad944 Jack's Predator did the same thing... brought it out of the garage and fired it up and it sat there and surged. When he plugged in a load and turned the power on... the surge went away. Ran it for a little while and everything was fine again. We fired them up a few weeks ago and all is back to normal. Try starting, let it warm up (even if it surges), then put a load on it and let it run. See if that helps.
Hi, Yosue. I’m a gringo, but my wife is Venezuelan and I have a ton of family still there.
I’ve been there two dozens, did marketing work for Santa Teresa rum, and had a condo in Macuto that was destroyed by the mudslides.
Good luck with everything and God bless.
Thanks for the great comparison I have been looking at the predators I'm getting to old 😏 to lug around the 3500 thanks
The Predator 3500 has electric start which is a nice feature on a low cost genny.
My problem, too. Not as strong as I used to be. Need a lighter weight generator.
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For those new to generators, it's a good idea not to exceed 1/2 the rated output of the generator during the breaking-in period. The reason is the moving parts are still new in the engine and you are trying to "seat" the rings properly. This will give you the maximum life out of the generator. Also a good idea to vary the load.
Great tip... we bring the generators out twice a month and run with no load for a while, then run with a load (about half). Almost ready for first oil change. Try to run 1 to 2 hours before putting away... seems to run better each time!
Wrong, during break in you want cylinder pressure to seat the rings that’s the only thing that is happening, cross hatch grinds rings for a perfect seat, many many tests have been done, research for yourself doesn’t matter what the instructions say you want to load it straight from the get as the cross hatch smooths very quickly, and blow by produces acidic oil so the better the rings seat the longer the life will be.....
Good video.
Most early failures on those inverter generators are related to failure to change out the oil after initial burn-in. So after you run it for 30 mins to 5 hrs, and all the rough edges have had a chance to smooth down and leave deposits in the oil, be sure to drain and change it out. That magnet should help significantly too.
Good advice... I let Jack know we should run the generators for about an hour then change oil out. Hopefully they'll last for years to come!
Nice Heads Up on two gens I've been wondering about. Thanks men! Watchin from Manitoba. Good Luck.
Thank you T D!
Love my Predator - we got the paralell kit for two of them
That's awesome! I think they are great generators!
For me, the Wen would have to be significantly cheaper ($75-100 less) to choose over the Predator. One thing that was apparent to me was that the Predator was much more responsive and reacted faster when a load is put it on. It throttled up and handled that initial power surge demand much quicker. The Wen seemed to take a couple seconds to slowly rev up and react. That, plus the quality control / design issue of the Wen (exhaust not centered in case), the Wen being larger, and having a poor oil fill design, would relegate it to more of a budget version, and thus the price compared to the Predator needs to reflect that.
Good observation Dan! The Wen was a little slower to react than the Predator. I think the Predator has better reviews, and is less than the Wen unless you find it on sale, then about same price. Was disappointed with the exhaust, but after running for a while, straightened itself out. Two years have gone by, and the Wen still performs well. No more issues at this point just yet! :)
I did the same test you did with the 5050 btu window digital air conditioner it worked. But the thing I should have done is run ac on a little bit of an extension cord to duplicate it in a RV. The longer the cord the more the load and harder to start. I noticed the Predator had some pretty thick foam on the side panel. That's thicker foam than my 2200 watt Sportsman dual fuel suitcase style generator like yours. My dual fuel little generator runs on propane or gasoline. Propane is one of the cleanest burning fuels out there. the spark plug and carburetor never gets clogged up on propane. But one problem they use the snorkel propane conversion kit on my generator. I have to pull start it 16 through 20 times to get it started. So I come up with a plan I fill the fuel tank up with propane for about seven or eight seconds. With the fuel tank valve on, choke on and economy mode off one or two pulls it starts and it's on. Basically my generator is not pulling the propane into the engine when you pull on the cord like it should. I don't know if this is just my generator or all of them having a problem but they need to fix that before they go out of business. I've not used it on gasoline at all. In my Sportsman dual fuel 2200 watt generator its only a 79cc engine. I think they run the RPM higher to get 15 amps out of it. But that is what they told me at the factory 15 amps so it may not be true unless I measured it with a gauge. On this generator I can run 19 hours at half load on a full BBQ standard tank. And one advantage with a bag on the front seat of my truck. I can put my generator up in the front seat. and put a seat belt around it because I don't have any gasoline in it to spill. I've never had gasoline in it so far so I won't be smelling gasoline fumes. I have another generator I had the carburetor off while rebuilding it and I was just spraying propane into the intake of another gasoline only generator to start it. And with the gasoline valve shut off it was running on propane at an idle and when I put my hand over the intake to block airflow and still had the propane down the intake it revved all the way up. Running propane is more dependable but I'm having like i say a little problem with mine. And this is probably going to destroy Sportsman dual fuel generators because most people don't know to fill up the fuel tank with propane to get it started. You shouldn't have to do this to get it started. I paid $500 for it on the door. I missed the sale when it was on sale for $400 on the door which was a better deal.
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Sure sounds like the Wen was louder idling, and with heater, but not as loud with the air conditioner. NIce thorough comparison.
There's no way to know from an automatic leveling camera. Sorry. I work in pro audio and it would be difficult even with our most expensive gear. There are a lot of factors including the base and harmonic frequencies your ears are hearing.
The wen went on sale today at Amazon for $340. Harbor freight has a sale June 7th that will bring theirs down to 449.00. I picked up two Wens.
Perfect price! I missed the sale from Home Depot at $358, and paid more for mine... good score!
Add a hard start kit (capacitor) to your A/C to make startup easier on the genny.
cz luver I did this , well my son did it for me, I ran it off of the little 2 stroke 1000 watts. It was everything it wanted but it worked. I had our ran into our camper with a 12 guage 25 foot drop cord. My wife wasn’t even think about it and plugged her hair dryer into it. Running the 5000 btu A/C only pulls like 450 to 550 watts. Her hair dryer pulls 1700 watts. It dogged it down some but the genny never tripped its breaker or gave up. My son also invented me a meet little cap for mine. He took off the air vent valve and job welded a spout onto the cap which he attached to my cap. He then attached a 5 gallon fuel tank with another homespun spout at the bottom. 3 feet of fuel line and a 5 gallon bucket to gravity feed the predator to. It will now run almost all weekend. He said he’s looking for a beer keg to hold 16 gallons of gas to run to both of our gennies to and buy the parallel control system to. That way when we are out at our camp spot. By the way it’s a privately owned sight we can have roughly 4000 watts. We have a concrete lined pit about 30 feet from our camp sight. When they are running you can’t hear them. Since his gas cap invention which provides about 36 hours depending on what we run there have been a few mornings we have awoke to a very hot tent. We just run up the road and buy 10 gallons of gas. I usually have to take my boat because by day 3 it’s usually needing gas also. Love this genny set up. My next one. I’m buying the next bigger unit however. My oldest son is wanting to start bringing his family along. He asked us if he could power his 5000 btu unit off our setup. I said well if it doesn’t the nearest harbor freight is 17 miles away. I got extremely lucky when I bought mine. It was an open box return. They wanted 350 for it. I asked if they could cut me a better deal. She took it up front. Said how’s 175. I told her to ring it up. It was in its first oil fill. So I took it home dumped out the oil and put in Mobil 1 full synthetic oil. Ran like a champ. 450 generator for 182 dolls out the door. I did not get my tool pouch it my 12 volt plug in though. I guess I’ll look on amazon see if they sell them on their. I have been nothing but pleased with mine. We’re talking about next year buying 3 10x10 sheds and slowly remodeling them into houses or cabins if you will. That way the cousins have some privacy if they want to bring a friend. And just fixing up the place a little better. It’s 5 acres. Right now we have an out house. Eventually we’d like to get a septic system and drill a well. That’s a few years from now though.
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The big difference will be if you need warranty service or parts. That is where the Harbor Freight generator will be deficient. The extra $8. buys the USB charge port & the funnel.
I have two of the Wens with the parallel setup. One wen will easily run a 5000 btu AC unit all night long on eco mode with gas to spare. If I store it for a few months I do drain the gas and run it until the carburetor runs dry to keep the cheap gas from ruining it. When I gas it up after storage it usually takes 3-4 pulls to prime the carb to run. I have had them for about 3 years now, and good little generators. Im sure the Wen and Predator are probably made in the same kung-fu factory and are great generators
WEN MADE IN ILLINOIS
Great video and tests, I have the Wen but have not fired it up yet so I appreciate the walkthrough. Thank you guys!
Thanks for taking the time to watch!
Who needs AC I need it to run the refrigerator, internet modem and computers, TVs, cable boxes, and charge call phones. With PG&E cutting the power to Northern California keeping food cold and frozen is way more important...
You have a great point there! Couldn't agree more!
Really good comparison video guys 👍👍👍 I wouldn’t have purchased the predator before I watched the video! I know a lot of generators are manufactured by the same company.
Its simply amazing.....in China they build these things with all the Guts being the same..... just a different shell in many cases.
See some bad reviews on Wen web site but cost seems really reasonable !! That includes run times of about 5 hours a gallon on full power ! NOT jumper cables 2:10 charger cables !!!!! DO NOT expect to boaster start your car with it that way , just charge the battery up !
My opinion is : there is no loss in our money when we buy each of them .. and they are beautiful 😍 .
Very true! Thank you!
Great review from my listening the predator sounds quieter and better in general
I agree... and running side by side, I think the Predator has less vibration too!
There's no way to know from an automatic leveling camera. Sorry. I work in pro audio and it would be difficult even with our most expensive gear. There are a lot of factors including the base and harmonic frequencies your ears are hearing.
Sorry, but there's no way you can tell from UA-cam. Microphone placement, audio levels, etc.
Wen wins hands down
that old man is cool with his watch on his left wrist and smart watch on his right wrist lol 🤣🤣🤣
great in detail like a professional like the style calm , cool and collective both of you . Thanks
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Just a Note For those Who Purchased Either , The predator uses the same inverter board as the wen, I E : the WEN Predator and Ryobi 2kw models are produced in the same factory. so when your predator Inevitably kicks the inverter bucket You can replace the predator board ( 320.00) with a oem Wen Board for 150.00
That's a great fun fact right there!
If you buy straight from WEN, I got the 2200 Watt for $399. I had a 2000 Watt WEN and sold it because it was smoking right out of the box.
Well... THAT's a smoking good deal! (pun intended)! LOL! The exhaust was off center on mine out of the box, but vibrated into place after running for a while. Been good since.
Now how did I miss this video? Again another informative video. Thanks so much for sharing.
We sneaked this one in! :) Hoping to hit a spot where we can light them up and go totally off grid... we're ready for it!
Hi Al! Great demonstration! Jack seems to be quite a character! Early on I seriously thought of buying this type of generator, but, if one loses power at home the probability of the gas station being shutdown also to go buy gas and oil is imminent. After watching this video I’m not sure I could deal with the noise they both make! I ‘do’ like the price as compared to my Delta Ecoflow Pro at $3599! Quite the difference! Thanks for sharing! Have a blessed day! ~Jim~
I used to run my fishing cabin on the predator 3500 inverter gen, It was overkill running a 5000btu, a light bulb and a portable dvd player. Got tired of hauling it in the woods and switched to the 56200i. Just have to fill up more often but it works fine on eco and is easier on my back.
The 5000 btu ac when it was running by itself , was there residual power from generator ?
Thanks
*_Thank you so much, you two guy's have answered, my own personal questions about these gen's I have been wondering about myself, again thank you!_*
That's awesome! Glad to have helped! Thanks for watching! Cheers!
Nice video, bought my predator last year. Best choice I could have made
I couldn't agree more... very nice little machine!
I want one to put on my Party Barge to run a few lights and a A/C maybe a couple of fans.
I'm leaning towards the Predator.
Predator is good... can't beat the warranty! Go for the extended! :)
I got the Wen #56203i 2O00w for $300 on eBay.......... awesome deal for a brand spanking factory fresh machine........ I love it ! 👍
Absolutely good deal!! Its been a couple years since I owned mine and high time I get it out and show it off after two years use. Came in handy after a winter power outage last year, love this thing! Wishing you the best on your purchase!
Nice work Guys, I think I'm leaning towards the predator
Thank you Fuad! With the warranty HF offers, can't beat the Predator!
Moral of the story,... Don't bother buying a Honda ;)
Hmm. I bought a very lightly used Honda for just about the same money as they did. Let's test these against the Honda in, say... 10 years. The predator motors I've used from HF work great, for a year or two. They just won't last. The Honda, in my opinion, though more expensive innitially, will be much cheaper in the long run. I have a 30+ year old Honda riding mower that still starts/runs like a brand new one.
@@trbig67
Times have changed my friend,... I sold my friend a brand new Honda mower 28 years ago & it still starts on the first pull with the original spark plug,... It was actually built in Japan but the Honda product is not the same,... I have owned Honda bikes, mowers, trimmers & boat outboards,... My Dad has been a Honda Outdoor Power Equipment Dealer for almost 40 years & most years was Australia's top dealer :)
I have sold much of their product including generators,... I was selling their EU10's when they first got copied by The Chinese.
Honda has now been forced to make much cheaper disposable product in Taiwan, India & other countries to stay competitive & it's simply not the same product as your 30 year old Riding Mower.
I know many people who have had issue with Honda product including my brother with his minivan's dead transmission at 60,000 miles that Honda did NOT help him with at all :(
Ha ha, I was the Parts Manager for years in Australia's biggest Honda power equipment dealer & we retailed Honda mowers, one at a time to individual customers & one year we sold more than the entire country of New Zealand out of one store lol but now I live in The States, I just purchased the 1000 watt Sportsman Inverter Generator for $199 with free delivery ;)
@@davidyummus6259 Hmmm. Son's Honda car, 300k miles and still runs like new. Your friend's experience with Honda vehicles is not typical. Honda EU2000i generator, still starts and runs like new after a LOT of use. There's a legit reason everyone else compares their generators to Honda, and the only one that comes close is Yamaha.
@@trbig67
1999 Plymouth Grand Voyager with 287k miles & everything still works, even the A/C & every light bulb but we weren't talking Cars ;)
Honda Cars are not built in the same factories as the small engines, outboards & generators,... My brothers dead trans in his minivan was "typical" because there was a mass recall on them but his was just 3 months outside the recall build date so Honda said a big F*** YOU :(
All I said was that Honda has had to cheapen their manufacturing to stay in the game & I KNOW this because I was involved with Honda small engines & generators with Australia leading Honda outdoor power dealer exactly when the Chinese copies started & I KNOW how much it hurt Honda !
They are simply not what they used to be, nothing is !
Stihl has also been marketed as a superior product but very little is German made & their products range from Cuban to American to Taiwanese to Chinese to Indian in manufacture.
Who the hell wants to keep a mower or generator for 40 years anyway when Parts are obsolete in 4 lol.
You buy the Honda EU2200 & I will buy the Predator for less than half price ;)
Got to harborfreight.com & read the reviews of the Predator 2000 watt inverter generator to hear from very unhappy Honda owners lol.
@@davidyummus6259 i have 3 hondas gen never had any problems 6yrs still running 1st pull 6 to 8hrs a day 24 /365..!
I have the same Predator generator, I bought mine last year during Hurricane Irma for the $449 price and used it to run our 120v 682watt/5.8amp 9000btu Mini Split in the house for 11 days along with the refrigerator. , but I bought a 2nd one after the hurricane new in the box because HF would not let people return them for $250 so I can run them in parallel or run higher watt loads, because so many generators popped up on the market. I bought a 2nd one because occasionally the generator would trip overload if the a/c and the frig compressors came on at the exact same time, which only happened about 3 times over an 11 day period. We ran ours in the window in the garage, I stuck plywood over the window on the outside for the hurricane but cut open a section just large enough to fit the generator out the window and out the plywood. Then on the inside of the garage, I ran a section of 2x3 I think it was through the handle on the generator and screwed it into the plywood from both sides to keep from someone pulling it out the window. The generator pulls air from the side with the plugs and out the back, so all the fumes stayed outside the garage. Then ran a box fan plugged in just blowing at the generator in the garage to maybe help with cooling, it ran nonstop for 11 days without any issues really. We averaged about 7hrs per gallon of fuel out of it running the a/c and frig once they both were cooled off.
Now that's putting it to good use!
That off center exhaust is a no go.
Yup... really didn't notice that until I went through the trouble of oiling and gassing it up! It did work its way back to center though... and been running great since.
I think the fact th2st you can get a 25 percent off coupon for the harbor freight unit makes it the winner. WEN is a great unit , I like color.
They do have pretty good sales, that's for sure! And Predator has good reviews! So for the money... can't be beat!
can't use a 20% or 25% coupon on predator generator
Thanks, I didn't know. I was waiting to get a 25% off coupon and I was going to get a Predator. Guess that plan is out the window.
One thing else to consider (that I have not seen in any reviews of the Predator), is the parts availibility from Harbor Freight. I have never had to replace any parts on my Predator, but in the past I have been able to get parts for other items purchased from HF. Just something to consider..
I got a part from them too....about 3 months later.
Better buy a 2nd predator for backup whilst u wait for a part.
@@MrChris-bx7ss I don't remember how long I have waited for parts in the past, but I'd guess most came in about a week. I guess it would depend on if/where they have the part(s). I might keep my eye open for a cheap non running predator on CL, just in case.
I found it very difficult to order parts from harbor freight for my predator 3500. The part number you need to order isn't the same as the part number is called.
I had to call HF to get the number and order. I just wanted a spare air filter assembly, spark arrestor, and oil door. It actually took a few days to get someone at the 800 number. I also had to get the part number from a different department, then do the actual ordering from a customer service number.
It took months for my entire order to come in. I couldn't see updates on the website or order spare parts from the website.
My generator has worked fine though, I would just hate to have an actual problem and have to go through harbor freight.
The WEN website is easy and I can already see the spare parts I want to get.
I'm an odd bird when it comes to spare parts, I order consumables when I get an item because a lot of times products change and you can't get them anymore.
I like to have a spare air filter, or whatever, ready to go so I can just swap things out if I have to maintain during extended use.
many thanks for this...I am shopping for one of these, so this really helps!
Glad to have helped Christie210!
Nice job fellas. I am in the market for a 2000 to 3000 generator and have been checking out these 2 that you did the review on and also the Predator 3500 watt. Thanks for some insight on the 2000's.
You got it! Thanks for stopping by!
thanks guys. trying to decide on one of these smaller generators...after finding out it will run a A/C 5000 unit no problem. 600 watt microwave, heater etc. without problem. was hoping it would run a/c. and tolerate the Small microwave occ use plus an LED TV and maybe 1-2 lights.. Watts seem to add up OK. looking at Westinghouse 2200 also...has 3 year warranty plus xtra 200 watts. hmmm
Hi miragexI007! Nothing wrong with a little more power!! :) Sounds like a good deal Westinghouse 2200 with the warranty and all! Should handle your needs!
A bit of knowledge from Sparky. Forget the Starting quotes such as 9000 Watts starting, It's always the lower figure, like 7225 Watts, that you can actually get out to use.
True statement from Sparky!
Predator is good not too loud. Thank for sharing this test.
Thanks for watching van viravan! Predator is actually a nice little generator... working great!
just remove my hearing aid both very very quiet
My favorite videos, side by side real world tests. Some inverter generators recommend not using eco mode when anticipating high start up loads like some tools, A/Cs, refrigerators, etc. I don't know if these two mention that.
I agree that the oil add mode is harder on the WEN, , but the everyday checking the oil seems easier. Thanks for the review.
Thank you for giving me a hearted comment. I respect your work, you show me respect. This is how it is supposed to work, not how it always works. Thank you.
Also, I believe that the Predator is only a 79 cc engine and the Honda which is rated for the same starting and running watts is over 90 cc. This doesn't really matter if it does what you need it to do but it is something to keep in mind.
True that... I am guessing that is why the Predator out performs the Honda in run time. Predator uses less gas and runs for a longer time.
In another utube review of the Wen I saw it came with a specialist funnel to introduce the oil so to avoid the mess/leak. You can download an app for your smart phone to measure dB.
Hi Dimitris! Yes sir... the Wen came with a funnel and a tube, but the tube did not fit into the opening of the oil fill, made a mess at first. I'll have to modify and get a smaller tube to do the job! That should cure the messy part! :)
You can run a 5200 btu AC off a 1000 watt genertor The most useful test is what the sine wave looks like under load.
NOW 2023 The Predator 2000W is $619 Retail and ONLY Comes with a 90 day Warranty = OVERPRICED!! WEN 2000W Only $349 2 year Warranty Or the Genkins 2300W for only $399 BEST DEALS GOING !!
Just watched a WEN how to set-up and demonstration by Quiet Teardrop Camping (not a subscriber or sponsor); it was a pretty good review, one point WEN instruction pointed out was 16 ounces of oil so he used an empty 16 ounce water bottle to measure. Great idea instead of guessing with a funnel and spilling oil all over. The Wn 56203i 2000 had the oil fill outside, no panel removal. Both generators seemed pretty good, guess competition for quality control is getting better in China.
That is a great idea... will definitely use that next oil change! Thanks Phil!
Great presentation covering all the essentials of a user
Thank you sudhir!
I do like the Predator but damn, I love that the Wen has usb.
I had a predator for Huricane Maria in PR. The predator damaged the ignitor coil. So I bought a WEN Generator. It is almost the same.
I think they are one and the same with a different casing... Hoping not to have the same experience!
@@OregonBatman yeah. Thanks
Wen has these on sale on their website for $349 shipped right now.
Excellent deal!
I’m sold on the predator. But I like the orange...
Wen generator has 3 years extended warranty in Lowes or Home depot.
I have two Wen generators each one came with the screwdriver, phillips on one end and pull it from the handle and the slot driver is on the other side
:) at some point, I know I'll have to use it!
Nice side by side comparison men. I'm leaning towards the Predator knowing the oil fill and muffler offset on the Wen. I have an old Honda that puts right along. No need to replace yet. You guys are ready to go camping again. Weather should be better next time.
Thanks Matt... I think if I had to do it all over again, Predator would be the choice I'd make, but I can live with what I got. Honda's are great... don't figure you'd need to replace for quite a long time! I'm ready to go for sure!
They are the same generator. They are both made by Wen.They are knock off of the Yamaha i2000
Great Presentation Guy's....... THUMBS UP !!!
Thank you JESUSisGODourSAVIOUR!
Does it have an hour meter? If not, that is inexcusable regardless of price.
Sine or square wave power?
Total harmonic distortion?
Auto-throttling depending on load?
Ease of draining carburetor for long-term storage?
Ease of adding or changing the oil?
Engine displacement?
Long-term durability comparison?
Accurate, dependable fuel gauge?
Toolless access to the engine?
Whoa....!! You got my head spinning with all them questions! Nope, no hour meter. Supposed to be sine wave... haven't heard any bad reports otherwise. Not sure what harmonic distortion is, but it sounds purtty! Yup... in Eco mode, auto throttle for the load. Haven't tried draining carb, I generally start it once a month to make sure all is well. Not too messy adding oil if you have the correct funnel. 350CI (LOL!) Haven't had them long enough for long term comparison. From videos I've seen and reports I've read.... they can last a long time and people are happy with them. It appears fuel gauge is accurate... when it hits "E", it stops! You will need a tool to remove sides to get to engine... I think there is three or four to remove.
Great job guys. Thank you
Not loud enough I am looking 4 a 2 stroke yz250 with a exhaust system on mine so when when my ac cuts on it will wake up neighbors 2 miles out....
I read your comment to Jack... we had a good chuckle on that one!! Thanks Halo Halo!
If you happen to be 2iles from me, be ready for a beating
Nice comparo. A thought on your pros/cons regarding filling up the oil. Just like the Predator, you can remove the side panel on the WEN. So, having the oil filler door is a bonus if you have the right kind of funnel. Otherwise, you can just remove the panel. So, this shouldn't be a pro for the Predator and con for the WEN... If anything, you could classify it as being the same, and the WEN having an option that might not be useful to everyone.
That is a great comment, and very true. The WEN having the option of an oil fill door may not be for everyone! Thanks for sharing hotchalupa!
I would it love to see the ac test with a 100 feet extension cord. If will be using the ac for sleeping only .
That much draw on a 100ft extension cord is ill advised. I have seen cords like that melt when drawing 15A constantly since most of them are only rated for 10-12A.
Just make sure to use a 12 gauge extension cord!
@@user-id9ou2np8g A 5K BTU AC unit draws nowhere near 15 amps.
@@bobss7 OP didn't say what size AC. I'm not sure where you got 5k BTU from.
Regardless, I've seen a lot of people try to use a 100ft 16g extension cord on RVs.
For anyone wondering, it can melt your power cord or start an electrical fire.
if the air conditioner did not have a long enough time to equalize the pressure in the system it would have been a bit harder to start.
I just read the sticker on mine that says to wait 5 minutes to restart
More info
An air conditioner with 5,000 BTU is mostly recommended for areas/rooms smaller than 200 square feet (preferably 150 square feet). The wattage it typically uses ranges in between 446 to 580 watts. What is The Best RV Rooftop Air Conditioner? There are many well-known brands available in the market.
I own a newer version of the predator, and I can guarantee you whoever made those generators is the same person.
The way off center exhaust pipe is NOT poor design, it is shipping/handling damage!! I also purchased my handsome orange Wen56200i from HomeDepot.com figuring it would get better/faster handling and after I got it home I found that the exhaust pipe cracked and broke away some plastic on the panel's circular opening the exhaust exits. A call to Wen had a new black panel delivered totally FREE in 3 days. Some days later I confirmed the breakage was caused by rough handling, as in dropping the new box from about knee high on it's END (not bottom) causing the weight of the Motor-Genny unit to flex on the 4 motor mounts hard enough to actually BEND the engine mounted steel the motor mount's small rubber portion is bonded to. I almost too easily bent the 2 bent motor mounts steel brackets back with a screwdriver turned in the tight gap, centering the exhaust pipe in the opening to where it belongs. Wen is also to blame for what happened as the motor mount steel is NOT thick enough -and- they lack the stout travel limiting tabs visible on my (excellent) Champion 75531i inverter genny. Then again, if the mounts were heavier, they may break the more expensive all plastic base of the genny. Prominent "FRAGILE - DO NOT DROP!" warnings on all sides may also help. If buying from HD, open and check it over closely for plastic breakage and exhaust pipe being exactly centered in the plastic panel's opening. Mine was slightly down-from-center, but did not seem that irregular.
About your run tests, if you waited 20 seconds for the factory emptied carburetor float bowl to fill up with fuel the Wen would -always- cold engine start on 2 pulls. Immediately applying 1500W loads may be good for piston ring break-in but it could damage the engine's most vulnerable connecting rod big end bearing and piston skirt areas, adding thousands of hours of normal run time wear in just a few seconds. One on-line .pdf owners manual I read the for a clone 2k inverter genny mentions in the break-in about the maximum 50% load heating/cooling (curing) of the alternator stator windings, possibly referring to the stator winding's final curing of the tank dunked insulating compound. I just cringe every time a novice tries to start his RV's 15K AC unit, and continues to RUN it, with his brand new genny! Also, some great advice to those novices, one guy on UA-cam left the choke on for 61 seconds(!!!) the choke should come partially off immediately after the engine revs up to avoid spark plug deposits, cylinder wall lube oil wash off and crankcase oil dilution.
HD offered a great magnetic Aluminum dipstick with purchase ,that I also got, so valve train, piston ring and cast iron cylinder wall iron wear "powder" is captured on the tip.
Thanks Robert for the info... I agree, definitely was mishandled in shipping for sure! Lucky for me, after running the genny for a bit, everything vibrated right back into place. Yeah... already got spanked for not following recommended break-in procedures. Glad people are paying attention and laying down some much needed info! I will be doing the first oil change soon, we'll see how much the magnetic dipstick picks up. After the short test runs we did... have been babying it ever since and not overdoing it! Need this to last me a while! Thanks for all the great information sir, much appreciated!
If anyone is in the market for ANY generator, pay attention to the specs.
1) Wattage ratings. They tend to advertise the surge watt rating instead of the run watt rating to make it seem like it has a bigger capacity. No one runs any generator at the surge rating continuously. My construction generator has an 8000 watt run rating with a 13,500 surge rating (designed for large inductive loads at startup). Advertising it as a 13,500 watt generator would be false advertising in my opinion.
2) Run times. They use to advertise run times at 50% load. They are now leaning toward 25% load. That makes it seem like it's a longer running generator. 25% load on a 1700 watt genrator is only 425 watts. Consider the watt demands you'll be placing on your generator.
Very good points... it's all in how and who they market too.
I’m putting a small 5000 btu window unit in a truck camper I’m now configuring, just an A.R.E. bed cap/topper. I’ll either stick the AC unit in a window when I get to my site, or figure a way to plumb it in.
Besides the AC, and mind you they have these tiny Frigidaire units now that don’t pull a lot of amps, could these 2000s also handle a bulb or two, a TV, etc? It didn’t sound like either of those was struggling with that old, inefficient AC of yours at all!
As everyone has done, I’ve been eyeing the Predator 3000, but I just don’t think I need it and my back ain’t what she used to be. Either are my muscles.
Hello Ira Rather! I don't think it would be a problem running a light or two, maybe even the TV while air conditioner is running. The air conditioner didn't seem to pull that much power at all. Give it a try, think you'll find it will run okay! Thanks for stopping by!
Look into synthetic oil, so you would not have to change oil as much and also protect the engine from over heating. Return yellow one to HD and get one that doesnt have muffler at an angle.
I wished I would have seen that first before I went through the trouble of oiling and gassing it up... It's something I can live with I reckon. Worst case, I would have to trim a little bit. All in all, works great and does what I need... as in everything in this world, ain't perfect, but it'll do! Good tip on the oil, something I will definitely switch to when ready to change out the oil! Thanks man for the comment!
I would suggest Havoline for the generators,it is far better than Pennzoil because Pennzoil is loaded with parafin plus additives to subdue the high sulphur and potash content...which all contribute to a high varnish build up in your engine...Also make sure the 30wt is a detergent type oil...non-detergent cause severe build up of deposits in your engine...
Will do Steve... thanks for the input!
And while at it, use only 100% gasoline in the generator. Keeps things from gumming up over time from ethanol. Also, replace the Chinese Torch spark plug with a quality Japanese NGK plug.
Agree with that! We use ethanol free gas... ahhhhh, the good ol' days! :)
Did you give the A/C enough time for the head pressure to drop B4 you ran it on the Wen?
I think so... hadn't run that A/C for months before plugging in. Fired right up and started blowing cold... worked pretty good!
@David Hollfelder - Interesting... so what's the procedure/how long should one wait to allow hp to drop on an a/c?
THank you so mcuh mister i lov you more thasn i love my wife. i bhought this generatror with the hopes that it eould curemy depression. Thank you mhch love caleb
LOL! Thank Nick! :)
Get the Mityvac fluid extractor and use it to fill the oil. It makes things MUCH cleaner and more exact as the extractor tube has hash marks for the amount in the tube. Under $20.
There ya go! That's what I've been looking for... I like the little syringe type one... might have to go for that one! Thanks for the tip, much appreciated!
@@OregonBatman Yes sir! the 7 1/2 inch one holds the perfect amount of oil. I also bought the Champion duel fuel 3500 but bought the Predator for camping after seeing this.
@@JasonWh Sweet! Good generator. And changing the oil will be a snap!
Has either the Predator or the Wen overloaded when using the small AC? I bought a Predator 2000 to run the small 5000 btu AC for my teardrop camper and the generator overloaded twice when the AC was on high as the compressor came on.
The AC I have is rated at 450 watts and 4.1 amps max, but I also used a Kill A Watt to measure it and it only actually draws 380 watts and about 3.1 amps when the compressor is running.
Hey notruss1... thanks for stopping by. Sorry to hear of your overloading issue. Neither the Wen or the Predator overloaded on the 5000 watt A/C. Actually handles it quite well. I am wondering if your Predator has a fault from the factory? It should pull your A/C without a problem. I believe it can handle a load up to around 13 amps. Any issues running other appliances such as a small heater? If it works without any issues... could be the A/C unit itself giving you problems. Only time I had the overload light blink, is when using a 1000 watt microwave, but was still able to boil water. Hoping it's just the A/C and not the generator (a/c cheaper to replace!) :)
@@OregonBatman No, I think it was the generator because the AC works fine on 120V. I suspect the quality of the Chinese parts vary a bit. Also, the startup for a 5000 btu AC can sometimes be more than 13 amps which would trip it. I returned it and HF refunded my money no questions. Now I just need to find one that wont have issues. A lot of the cheap 2000W generators wont handle the load they are advertised at. Have you ran your AC with it on high for over an hour?
Good to know you got a refund! The A/C I have has one setting... either on or off. So when I hit the switch, it's full blast. I haven't run it for an extended period of time, but compressor kicks on at initial start up. You may need a larger generator if using Predator, or may have to opt for the Honda which is twice the cost.
will go for Predator. Thanks
Good choice!
22:15 what about when that light kicked on
I'm SURE they didn't mean to ignore you. I watched that part again on full screen and that was the overload light that flickered on the Predator. At the end, he kind of implies the Wen didn't do as well as the Predator on the AC test, but I think that clearly shows the Predator had a harder time juicing up the AC when he flicked it's power switch. I see on todays date, 03-16-21, the Wen is on sale on their website for like $374? Sounds like a bargain.
Good job
PREDATOR...90 DAY WARRANTY / WEN....2 YEAR WARRANTY
Hmmmm, let me think......
honda 3 year
Wwll that's a no brainer
@@christinesmith7625 yes but at a higher cost . Much higher.
@@Spad68 you are correct
someone put the exhaust cover on wrong on the wen, mine is not like that
I know, right? I thought I could adjust or move mine.... couldn't do it. So I went ahead and run the generator thinking I might have to cut the exhaust cover for the muffler. But after running and letting everything cool... everything lined up perfectly! Weird! So my best guess is, while in shipping, things must have moved. Then after running the generator, the vibration put everything back in its place. What a relief it was to see that! Now it looks perfect!
Any used Honda Generator is better than any New generator in the market! Honda is made to last for long time !
I have a compressor like that... bought it late 1990's and still running strong!