Mirror Universe Refinery | Early Thoughts & What Star Trek Fleet Command Players Should value
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Good evening @everyone and sorry for the delay in getting this one out. LOTS of videos being worked on AND we're giving away 5 more battlepasses on tonight's Friday Twitch Stream, so that should be a real hoot! So today's Star Trek Fleet Command video breaks down the refinery for the new mirror universe (link in the volunteer charts channel of my discord) and we discuss the pitfalls and struggle points as well as the loot!
Topics covered:
1. As always a thank you Jules Vern for allowing me to help on this project!
2. Where to spend your Trelium-D
3. How the refinery changes as you level it up
4. If you have any game mechanic questions, feel free to drop those questions in the comments!
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I haven't even bothered entering a mirror system yet, if that tells you how much I care about this.
Same😅
Is Scopley just going to chase us all away, this is like a 2nd job
i have done almost nothing for this arc
This is getting to be re-god-damn-diculous!
With 40 premium required per trel-d run, at 80 used per day, all 51+ players will run out in 5 days. We need better sourcing for it now.
The uncommon rift keys are my biggest bottleneck.
@@evancprokop Get back to me in 5 days after you've used you premium up.
To start, fight mirror hostile until you get about 11K in Trellium - D for the refinery. Will be enough to research the new shields. Also, downgrade uncommon jewel dust to common jewel dust. Watch for the "plus" sign on the right of the chest pull buttons. With the trellium, and uncommon dust, you should have enough to research the shields, the mining increase, and increase hostile loot drop. These three research options takes less than a minute to research. You should be able to research all three in under 2 minutes. Have fun.
Enjoyed the video. Still not sold on this grind. Will play it like you, when and where I want too 🍻
I generally like Tiger's content but this is annoyingly complicated. I thought he made the Voyager loop too complicated but this is another level.
It's not complicated. Take the time to just kill shit and explore the systems. Regular crews. Find your sweet spot. It takes 300 to enter the park. 100 to ride. Going to a Premium hub it's 40.
I agree. It's not super complicated, But it does take some patience which we all lack. What is really annoying is to get to the cool places It eats up a lot of your 20-minute timer. That ain't cool. The biggest problem, however, is this new mechanic which requires time and exploration on top of all the other things. It's taking 2 and 1/2 years but this is the one that's kind of got me thinking maybe this is too much.
@@nutznchocolates56doing it isn’t hard at all, being a farm for whales is!
At Ops40 you get access to the Monaveen, NX-01, and Eviscerator ships/loops. Then on top of those 3 you now have MU and Silent Enemy loops to add into your daily grind. It can be quite overwhelming with everything that must be done and difficult to prioritize which to do.
OPS 45 - For the first time in many arcs, I quite like the MU addition, particularly the Forbidden Tech section where the tier-up catalysts are a major bottleneck. The 20 minute timer in MU is a bit short, 30 would be preferable, but I can usually get what I need within the time limit, tho without the support of protected cargo you do find yourself looking over your shoulder and wondering if that player parked on the exit node is just arriving or a gate camper. I've not been hit yet, but it's going to happen sooner or later. Ive already reached the Ops 51 cap (lv4) on the Apex barrier research, so the next step is working on the mining, though I wouldn't be surprised if the next Scopely offering is a survey ship to assist with mining. However, yes there it is . . . however, there seems to be a deafening silence about the stability of STFC, since the Gorn events the game has become a constant source of frustration, game crashes and screen freezes whenever you look at, or change something to the ship and crew, this is occurring several times an hour and having to reboot just to get back where you were is plain annoying. I fear that this only going to get worse, with new content piled on top of new content, one day, STFC will truly be unplayable.
The mirror universe has a chance to be really fun. The problem is this is now the 18th refinery. And it's convoluted. And while they've made improvements to the sourcing of what you need to get in there, it's not nearly enough. There should be unfettered Access all the way through uncommon. Should just be able to go at will. But What takes away from what could be a fun loop is there is just so much blanking stuff to do before you even think about this. You've got to do silent hostiles, Gorn, Xindi... None of which the free booter mechanic works with at all... And you've got to do your mantis, and your ISO mining and nanopro grind... And yes, free booter can't help with those but you generally only get enough to get one full pull... So somewhere along the line you've got to do a bunch of other grinds on top of other things such as War... Throw in some real life stuff... And they've just made it too much to freaking do.
I do xindi once a week and run it 5-7 times once,same for gorn and voyager. Borg I only do for events. Only time dailies take me more than an hour is if I don’t afk mine. I haven’t done silent enemies at all
and the fact that game locks up during the middle of doing it
I really do appreciate the thought behind this arc. I love the theme and some of the ideas. However:
* it's too much in one hit (formation armadas, love em or hate, was a better rollout, starting with uncommon and adding rare in the next month or so)
* it adds far too many new currencies (compare that to how the ex-borg faction is providing amazing value with fewer currencies)
* it lacks balance out of the gate (a systemic problem with this game),
* it doesn't really to me have the value of other loops (gosh, it makes Xindi look good). The refines are just not that good.
I'm on the fence about investing in this, but I already find Wave Defence hard to keep up with and I'd rather invest in that (the trouble with Wave Defence is that arranging times for good team mates is really, really hard - we need a solo expansion for Wave Defence so that I can at least drip the faction currencies).
What I find the most interesting with this mirror universe at ops 41 is what ship to use. I done test runs with the ENT, Voyager (t5). D4. I did not do the pickle or auger because they are slow. Mirror universe is all about impulse speed. In the end run after run testing. The iso crew on the d4 out performs everything at ops 40/41 hitting the 40's I would have never guessed.
Remember Refinery reseach 5 can only be done by player OP51+
Good video Rev 🤙🏼
In the words of Dr. Smith " oh the pain, the pain"
Kudos for the work put in to create all the spreadsheets but gawd so many spreadsheets, Picard Face Palm
Just going to do the events, save up and upgrade research. Will plan to go for tucker and archer to improve xindi grind.
Rev, you also remember the time when you were OPS level 15 and Scopely released new content for OPS 30+ every time. That was also very irritating. That was years ago. What I mean by this is: it's always been a thing. -This will always remain the case, unless Scopely is willing to scale content to every player's OPS level and strength. Scaling according to level and strength is used by many MMOs in content such as story, dungeons, open world, etc. I don't see Scopely going to do this. Although it is best for the long term, for everyone
I swore you said “premium grift keys” at one point and lol’ed
Freudian silp
Got my stone of memory to level 8 today unlocking the new remnants refinery. It unlocks 4 new remnants refines. Might want to do video on the entire remnants refinery and how it works with the new stones.
Remnants refinery?
Whoaa...what? MIrror Picard and Data needs own currency to upgrade? Also both doesn't work with Tal....thanks Scamley
Sigma player who subs to Rev's channel. Good info for spenders too.
Love the feeling of actually moving around, rather than a boring auto warp. Refinery I can choose the level of engagement from day 1. Extra vouchers nice surprise. Few technical challenges we need addressed still tho 🖖🏻
that the video i needed
I am an ops 56, and I haven't purchased any packs for the MU, and I have found the loop enjoyable. It's not complicated it just takes time, and if you have a ship at the proper level, you should have no problem.
New content idea- How to test crews. Personal example: Just earned L55, Silent’s jumped to level 55. Which crews to try out to find what is best for me with my officers. Idea with every officer available, on down
the game also doesn't seem to applying loot bonuses correctly from officers and ships in mirror space
Anybody have idea where to find and how to trigger Mirror Loot exocomps? I received already couple of those but i am totally unable to find them among the regular exocomps. Is this another Scopely mess or is it better hidden and i just cant see it?
Dealing with events only, this will be ANOTHER loop that I will check out of at arc end or sooner. Likely sooner as I am already tired of the daily go kill 50 mirror reds. At least nested event and the surface event are the same so both will score but forcing a grind over a dozen is a good enough reason not to engage.
I'm mid 40s and I'm tired of new content. I want new content for higher levels where they might not have stuff to do, and give my levels or levels below me more ways to speed up and catch the 50s.
Is there a way to do that while not making 50+ speed up as well OR feel like they wasted the money they spent to get there?
Old primes (2+ years old) - should they still be worth $99.99? See about reducing costs or developing some f2p grinders paths to some?
More vouchers are needed!
To get to even the bottom rung of syndicate exp slb event is impossible I did everything including buy my battlepass for the extra syndicate exp and still didnt even get half way to first milestone ABsOLUTELY RIDICULOSSSS!!!
as any one check syndicate event on 09/06/2024, totally insane milestone, 550K syndicate points just for the first one, are there any push to lower it. or in future we can expect to get more insane and just quit on that?
no this is an intentional act so f2p can't win anything. Scopley has openly admitted it
on refinery section on mats refinery i think it needs improvement so many times i get just common refined mats maybe its just me but that is frustration i still dont understand the point of the refinery building provides no bonuses at all
Have only did 1 run of he new space, found it clunky and annoying to be locked into it for a set amount of time. I don't think this will be a loop I interface often as its just not in my schedule to be locked into an activity that I cant return from at a moments notice yet requires 100% of my attention.
Turnins in certain areas shouldn't be chance.... And if you have to grind like crazy the 24 hour timers should be reduced to 12 hours.... And the actual percentage for pulls should be on all pull spaces where the minimum and zero are options
Fair to say catch up other loops before bothering with this until high 50's?
Wouldn't say high 50s, but maybe high 40s
I just got to lv 38 no way I’m jumping to do this got two ships that I need to get and building up
scopeley lied when they said quality over quantity, and how about sourcing an officer without having to spend?
WHERE TF DID OPS 71-79 come from??? Did I miss an announcement?
Did they deliberately screw us on this current syndicate xp event? Up until now you used to be able to get at least the first reward F2P. This one I’ve done all max pulls, saved my battlepass elite rewards (which had syndicate xp) AND the mission events which gave it and I’m STILL not even remotely close. I also notice they upped the limit on how many syndicate rep packs you can buy from 2 to 3……
no that started a few months ago
JUST GET RID OF VOUCHERS!!! Just make it take common keys (since all the first systems are all common)
Now if only the 400% trellium loot exo worked or was active.
As for mining exo pointless, bad design should've boosted research trellium ming 4x (assuming that's how mining exo was designed).
I just hit ops 40 this month and there's an overwhelming amount of loops unlocking, Gorn, Silent, Monaveen, Xindi etc. while I'm still working on getting titan, defiant, nx-01 and now also the gorn eviscator. I don't have enough ex-borg credit income to justify spending them on relieving the old grinds (I'm looking at you Talios and Mantis). Gorn, Silent and Xindi are VERY though grinds at my power level, most take multiple trips of a max tier enterprise (11million power) and burn through speed ups like crazy just to do single chest refines, but the rewards of especially Xindi and Gorn look pretty good. This mirror shizzle looks positively underwhelming and highly annoying; time-limits, really? Can't take home any loot if I die? Wake up scopely. we're in the age of casual gaming ... The officers would be nice to recruit, but it's way too slow. Highly likely I'm skipping most of this mirror universe when the events stop coming.
Hi rev my my friend. I need help still trying to get Archer need like three shards having trouble getting them please 🙏 help thank you !!
Rev Deuce, you're on fire with your videos
rewards are kinda nice. the loop sucks. They tried to put a extraction shooter into startrek
Mute your Discord notifications before recording, my dude.
We will need much better sourcing for the premium rift keys. It will become a bottleneck soon. If players cannot get to the systems will trellium D, the feature will die quickly…
I'm finding the game pre unity level unstable in MU systems. Lag, failing hostile locks, disappearing hostiles etc. Doesn't make me want to be there tbh.
plus losing mins in the mirror space from the game locking up and having to restart
Seriously? Kumari bp from the Mirror chest drops 😂 I scraped my last Kumari 2 years ago. Come on Scopley at least give ship bps for ships that can do something in Mirror space.🤨
I'm skipping the entire thing...
Too many new loops. They need to add to free boosters...
Cant be arsed with this loop, just like the previous one and the one before. It is time we see the promised quality instead of more useless add on crap
I’m just not prepared to spend any more time in this game. I already don’t do armadas, wave def and I’m not doing this arc. I’m lv49. My time is much more valuable these days…
Very meh, if they release a ship next month it's gonna need a revamp on the pulls
If there is an answer to the question “why is PC disabled for this?” that isn’t “because fuck you, that’s why” I’d love to hear it.
Why is PC disabled for what, exactly?
at this point I understand the value of all this but I dont have the time on any day to do this plus other grinds. so I will skipping all this
to be honest ... i do not like the way you get loot from the mirror systems, its wasting too much time
_by the way - Mirror Loot crates have way too much useless crap in them !!!_
Available loot crews and the new +400% exo comp gets you WAY more loot from Mirror Hostiles kills, then the loot Container , thats means >> you should really try to bring your cargo home,
this will either costs you another sets of rift keys to get back, which means less Loot runs
or "waiting" (to save rift keys) until you can get your ship back home
because i am able to farm the Lv51 ships i am able to loot around 10k very fast + 4 to 5k from chests
but because i am fast and effcient i have to wait every time
maybe i do it wrong
maybe i have to spend the full 20 min farming killing dozens and dozens of Lv 40 mirror ships and get less loot
who knows ....
It’s too complicated and is a turn off if won’t be playing this arc
Nothing engaging about the "mirror universe" -- The grind is not what anyone wants. There is just absolutely too much to do. I feel like this has become a 2nd and 3rd job to just try and keep up... One that I have to pay to have. They haven't fixed many of the performance issues but keep shoving crap content down my throat. I'm tired of being kicked in the nuts and asked to do more.
Way too complicated, time consuming, and inefficient. This fucking blows.
that is the dumbest content for the last 2 years. they wanna make people quit
Makes 0 sense, worst event ever. Dont understand why people are still so polite about this development
I am 38 and beyond tired of this crap form scoply