@@jasonthefates7311 It would. From what I have read I don't think Ian Masters would be up for reunion. He just doesn't seem up to getting a bunch of praise and recognition.
vista7 that sucks. I can definitely understand an artist’s standpoint to want to stay underground, i just wish some of those artists would create more. But i guess when you’re done you’re done. He’s probably moved on to other things in his life sadly. Sometimes its better to enjoy the art created than to be disappointed by a new release imo
@@7stitches It does. They had an article on shoegaze in Alternative press around '00. Basically talking about the curse on a lot of the shoegaze bands. Lot of those bands had band members that suffered from depression like Liz Fraser and Kevin Shields. They talked in depth about Shields massive failure in putting out a follow-up to Loveless and the suicide of Chris Acland. I don't recall if they covered Pale Saints but they lived on with one other album that really lacked the creativity that Masters had.
One my friends way back then asked why I would listen to Pale Saints when I could listen to MBV. Like, why is it one or the other? I've always loved Pale Saints and they still remain one of my favorites.
Exactly. The great thing about that whole movement was the fact that every artist offered something a bit different whilst still sharing a dreamy feel to their music
Along with the warm embrace of loving tunes like this one, comes also the cold slap of fate... that such a great band basically self-destructed over a dislike of touring. Oh, what might have been... sob!
@@viceactivity Agreed, vice, she was fantastic and they never made as much use of her as they should have, due to their admittedly very good lead singer - bit of an anomaly to have 2 great singers at your disposal in an indie band of that era, after all the Stone Roses did well with none
@@viceactivity Also quite bemusing that she left Lush, and I'm a fan, despite being a far better singer than Miki or Emma - there was a lot more to it than that I assume
LOVE! (any new songs or writing happening? I've been asking for years.) Regardless, I love there sound so much. The soft distorted hiss of the analog that drummer working that kit & Her voice...special place in my 💙 always and forever!
Actually,Meriel Barham was in Lush for a few months in 1987 before joining Pale Saints. There is an interview with Emma and Miki where they mentioned it.
St.Fiacre Oh wow, I didn’t know that! Makes sense though, because both bands kind of have similar sounds. I’ll for sure look up that interview. Thanks!
Throwing back the apple to whom? There is a strange irony in the garden of eden mythos. One tree gives you eternal life, the other gives you knowledge. Knowledge leads to wisdom which leads to eventually understanding how to live eternally. And, if you live long enough, eternally, in a good way, not in a genie tricks you kind of way, then you will grow old enough to amass knowledge and wisdom. I don't thing Genesis is accurate, in its original form or current form. Something smells fishy about it.
Does knowledge always lead to wisdom? Rarely. Wisdom is discernment when you don't have all the facts. Many brilliant minds have chosen poorly. Only God knows all. We are all fallen creatures because of sin. Only the Christ who was nailed to a tree and died for all of us can redeem us. Only through the Son may we approach God the Father. Try as we may to throw back the apple to regain our innocence, none can be redeemed without Christ's redeeming blood.
so you do not think the bible can have massive errors? what saves us? are we saved because god said so, or because god was lso weak that only a magical blood sacrifice of a first born could save us, just like molech sacrifices? maybe god was tricked into saying we were all cursed, then had to break it with a child sacrifice? or maybe, jesus came to call people to take a job ruling in the government of god that rules over the multitudes where many are called but few chosen to lead, and the occult child sacrificing evil people elite of the world corrupted the original gospel and made god a hypocrite and child sacrificer so that their children would be taught, as it actually is, that god is secretly like them, and thus excusing their evil and brainwashing their kids. its a good thing that the bible says it is perfect and god didn't have to inspire someone to warn people not to add to it or change it, oops, he did. odd that. i hope you see the truth and it sets you free, and helps you see that god is sane, jesus was and is sane, and the elite sacrifice children because they like to use it on their subordinates to keep fellow occult members from competing and having to share power. @@slackjaw4270
I mean that if we could throw back the apple and live in the Garden of Eden before the fall happened, then we would be transformed from our present condition of fear and suffering to a condition of bliss and innocence.
R.I.P. Graeme Naysmith 🕊 ️
Pale Saints delivered us two exceptional albums. The comfort of madness and In Ribbons
EPs omg I love them. Wouldn't it be nice to hear something new
@@jasonthefates7311 It would. From what I have read I don't think Ian Masters would be up for reunion. He just doesn't seem up to getting a bunch of praise and recognition.
vista7 that sucks. I can definitely understand an artist’s standpoint to want to stay underground, i just wish some of those artists would create more. But i guess when you’re done you’re done. He’s probably moved on to other things in his life sadly. Sometimes its better to enjoy the art created than to be disappointed by a new release imo
@@7stitches It does. They had an article on shoegaze in Alternative press around '00. Basically talking about the curse on a lot of the shoegaze bands. Lot of those bands had band members that suffered from depression like Liz Fraser and Kevin Shields. They talked in depth about Shields massive failure in putting out a follow-up to Loveless and the suicide of Chris Acland. I don't recall if they covered Pale Saints but they lived on with one other album that really lacked the creativity that Masters had.
FAX
I can't beleive this album is 30 years old today. Still slaps and sounds fresh!
Yess! They were overshadowed by Ride and My Bloody Valentine. But Pale Saints were best shoe gazers!
@@edfromtheairship welllllll, they weren't better than Nowhere era RIDE, but they were very very good, and heinously underrated.
Love all the vintage shoegaze clips 4AD has been posting lately
Hope Pale Saints get a boxset like Lush did
Brilliant composer Graeme Naysmith was. Loved his guitar, may he rest in peace.
Brilliant how the deep snare and deep crash cymbals, grinding guitars are overthrown by Ian's angelic voice. 30 years ago and still sounds epic.
Just discovered them….that voice is utterly beautiful!
RIP 😢
30 years ago! You know music is great when it can be around that long and still sound fresh.
Love the effortless 5/4 time during the intro
One my friends way back then asked why I would listen to Pale Saints when I could listen to MBV. Like, why is it one or the other? I've always loved Pale Saints and they still remain one of my favorites.
Exactly. The great thing about that whole movement was the fact that every artist offered something a bit different whilst still sharing a dreamy feel to their music
A classic, sounding as fresh as when it first came out. And who else could get away with such a brilliant chorus in 10/4 meter!
"It hurts so much
But you're close enough
To step outside again"
Finally! It seems 4AD will post all Pale Saints videos. Great!
Love Pale Saints, and how good is the guitar too!
Still sounds great.
still?the shit is timeless
this is one of my favourite songs. Ever
Literally just discovered this band what an incredible song I can't believe this is 30 years old did these guys create shoegaze sounds like it to me
This is the one and only Rock and roll band of the nineties. Now change my mind.
Along with the warm embrace of loving tunes like this one, comes also the cold slap of fate... that such a great band basically self-destructed over a dislike of touring. Oh, what might have been... sob!
HOLY CRAP - thanks for reminding me of this band. I'm telling you Pale Saints were well ahead of their time...
They were when Mogwai go to number one with tunes nowhere near as good as The Pale Saints
What a sublime, beautiful song 🧚🏼♂️
Quite nice that the most replayed bit is Meriel's bit.
she has the voice of an angel
@@viceactivity Agreed, vice, she was fantastic and they never made as much use of her as they should have, due to their admittedly very good lead singer - bit of an anomaly to have 2 great singers at your disposal in an indie band of that era, after all the Stone Roses did well with none
@@viceactivity Also quite bemusing that she left Lush, and I'm a fan, despite being a far better singer than Miki or Emma - there was a lot more to it than that I assume
Ml@@roberth1322Miki wrote that she appeared to have no enthusiasm in the band and was asked to leave
@@peternagy-im4be Thanks for clarifying Peter, had no idea what had happened.
so good! love love love this album! 🖤
This song came out 30 years ago ... enjoy
RIP Naysmith❤
Classic still listen to them
It gets really filthy at the end. That dual guitar solo outro
Amazing to see a new upload!
one of my favourite songs by them! thanks for uploading, 4AD
Things won'b be better, than with the Pale Saints! R U A Saint?
stylistically, "throwing back the apple" belongs to "comforts of madness"...they did give it the production of "in ribbons" though.
The true "Masters"
I love this song and video, thanks
KOOL classic!
Lo que necesitan mis putos oídos!
A great song with a five-pound-note video.
Their best song IMO.
Show de bola
Cool
LOVE! (any new songs or writing happening? I've been asking for years.) Regardless, I love there sound so much. The soft distorted hiss of the analog that drummer working that kit & Her voice...special place in my 💙 always and forever!
Each song I hear fro mthe Pale Saints get me closer and closer to picking up a project. I think I'm fully convinced! :-D
Bellissimo Pale Saints. 4AD Thank you for delivering again. Cheers
Masters is a genius
The Pale Saints definitely acquired a sound similar to Lush when Meriel Barham joined the band.
One of my all-time favourite bands. Love them now as I loved them then. Thanks for posting this video !
IN RIBBONS Is one of the top 5 LP's of the early 90's with :
-chapterhouse
- My bloody Valentine
- Lush
- Stone Roses
don't forget Boo Radleys first LP! it's so good too
Catherine Wheel's Chrome.
Just for a Day?
Stone Roses was 1989. :-P
Add to that list His Name is Alive _Livonia,_ 1990
My favorite Shoegaze band aside from Lush
Actually,Meriel Barham was in Lush for a few months in 1987 before joining Pale Saints. There is an interview with Emma and Miki where they mentioned it.
St.Fiacre Oh wow, I didn’t know that! Makes sense though, because both bands kind of have similar sounds. I’ll for sure look up that interview. Thanks!
🖤4AD! Best label for decades!
Not so much now.
Ahhh… throwing back the glorious stink of the 90’s
Is the swimming pool on this video the same as he one used in Lush “Desire Lines” video ?
Fuckin reyt tune! x
why is this never on mtv 120 minutes???
Was this shot in the same empty swimming pool as the Desire Lines video?
God only knows pal.
00.22 Meriel knows, she just knows
Amazing music. Lyrics are so incredibly vague and don't match the title. Can anyone shed any light?
Todo el tiempo pienso en manzanas!!😋😋🍎🍎
Yea I saw somebody left a eaten apple core by the rocks the ducks were attacking it
why is the sound quality so poor?
Capolavoro, inestimable
This is has porcupine tree vibes🙂
It's good that Ian Masters moved to Japan. He can be a total nobody here---as is warranted.
Why is it warranted?
Weirdest music video out there. What in gods name is it all about?
Best thing to do is close your eyes and listen to the music 🎼
Throwing back the apple to whom? There is a strange irony in the garden of eden mythos. One tree gives you eternal life, the other gives you knowledge. Knowledge leads to wisdom which leads to eventually understanding how to live eternally. And, if you live long enough, eternally, in a good way, not in a genie tricks you kind of way, then you will grow old enough to amass knowledge and wisdom. I don't thing Genesis is accurate, in its original form or current form. Something smells fishy about it.
Does knowledge always lead to wisdom? Rarely. Wisdom is discernment when you don't have all the facts. Many brilliant minds have chosen poorly. Only God knows all. We are all fallen creatures because of sin. Only the Christ who was nailed to a tree and died for all of us can redeem us. Only through the Son may we approach God the Father. Try as we may to throw back the apple to regain our innocence, none can be redeemed without Christ's redeeming blood.
so you do not think the bible can have massive errors? what saves us? are we saved because god said so, or because god was lso weak that only a magical blood sacrifice of a first born could save us, just like molech sacrifices? maybe god was tricked into saying we were all cursed, then had to break it with a child sacrifice? or maybe, jesus came to call people to take a job ruling in the government of god that rules over the multitudes where many are called but few chosen to lead, and the occult child sacrificing evil people elite of the world corrupted the original gospel and made god a hypocrite and child sacrificer so that their children would be taught, as it actually is, that god is secretly like them, and thus excusing their evil and brainwashing their kids. its a good thing that the bible says it is perfect and god didn't have to inspire someone to warn people not to add to it or change it, oops, he did. odd that. i hope you see the truth and it sets you free, and helps you see that god is sane, jesus was and is sane, and the elite sacrifice children because they like to use it on their subordinates to keep fellow occult members from competing and having to share power. @@slackjaw4270
@@slackjaw4270Imagine being in the Garden of Eden for one day, before the Fall, it would be such a wonderful transformation.
@@caoimhec7697 Do you mean experiencing the Fall would be a wondeful transformation to experience or something else?
I mean that if we could throw back the apple and live in the Garden of Eden before the fall happened, then we would be transformed from our present condition of fear and suffering to a condition of bliss and innocence.
Awful vid, what were they thinking?