The 2023 Model 3 Update Is Here - All New Features!
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Here is another thing to consider when saying consumers are choosing EVs. As a person looking for a Camry Hybrid for the last 7 months, the dealership experience is horrible. Nothing in stock, and allocations sell before arrival. Add that dealers know this and are marking up vehicles anywhere from 2500 to 50000 over MSRP. Being able to hop online and get your order in directly with the manufacturer is a god send. No bait and switch, you get exactly what you want and updates when its due to arrive.
this is why I'm considering going with a Tesla when I jump to an EV. there are other EVs I was looking in to but having to deal with dealership BS is not something I want to do.
Holy damn, this has been my experience and dealerships have changed a ton as of recently. You can’t even negotiate prices and non-hybrid Camrys are running at $700/month with a few thousand down. With no down, you get a customized-to-buyer’s liking Tesla model 3 for the same for zero down. So I just said F it and placed an order for a model 3
Same here! Was gonna get a bimmer....too many games with these dealers with 6-12 month wait times for hyped models....instead, went for a brand new 2022 MS LR w/3 miles on odometer, took only 1 week to get if you buy existing inventory (vs custom order build out)
Agreed. I called a Toyota dealer this morning and he gave me the run around. Bought a Tesla Model 3 with a few clicks on their website.
I ordered my SR using the Tesla App. 2 weeks later I showed up, unlocked the vehicle with my phone... a guy walked out and had me sign a few papers, asked if I had any questions and then went back inside. A massive change from horrific dealer experiences in the past.
I picked up my 2023 Model 3 SR from my local service center this past weekend! So far things are looking great aside from the lack of USS (squeezing into the garage can be challenging and there aren't any warnings without the USS). It was nice to see the LFP battery in there just as noted in this video. Hopefully the battery will last for a very long time. It'll be nice to not have to deal with setting charge limits and then worrying about forgetting to change them for a trip. Overall, the whole process was really, really smooth. Got registered, financed, and insured in about 15 minutes in the app after placing my order. No paperwork to deal with whatsoever.
Don’t forget to mention that 2023 cars with no USS seem to have new cameras that appear to have wider angle lenses. These may even be the higher resolution 5mp Samsung cameras (that will replace the lower resolution 1.2mp existing cameras). Photos of the two cameras side by side are just starting to appear on blogs of customers who have just taken delivery of their 2023 model cars. Removal of the USS will have saved money that likely offsets the potentially more expensive better cameras!
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I don’t expect to see hw4 before CT or semi. Removing the uss, is the fruits of their fsd labours. They now have far better, more advanced ( occupancy network) systems already running in the car.
Went to the dealership to test drive a 2019 model 3. I waited over an hour and a half while three other people test drove it. The first two passed and the last person ended up buying it. I wasted almost two hours of my dad and there isn’t much they could have done, but they did not communicate this with me at all and I had to finally walk up to the last person and ask if they were purchasing. I probably would have sat there for another twenty minutes before the salesman told me I was out of luck.
I went home and ordered a new model 3 through Tesla and the experience has been flawless.
LFP is also rated for roughly 5,000 cycles. At 270 miles of range, and accounting for loss, you will get 270*5,000*0.8= 1,080,000 miles out of that battery pack. That’s pretty awesome! Also, my M3-LR ‘19 got the vision based downgrade for Autopilot, it is significantly worse than the LiDAR version, in every way. The auto brights feature is terrible too because it blasts oncoming traffic with brights all the time.
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Lidar version? What are you talking about?
Push the light lever (left-hand) forward once to disable auto-headlights. During that drive, you are on manual for the headlights. You have to do it again for the next autopilot ride though.
@@donaldstinnett5630 100% this 👍
I’d decrease that by 20% to be more realistic with regular driving habits and degradation over the lifetime
The new low voltage battery is actually on a 16V infrastructure and has a circuit board up top to allow for better monitoring. The previous 12v system was known for dying pretty easily during large firmware updates since there was no high voltage support from the BMS(battery monitoring system) as the systems would not speak to each other for safety reasons. The 16V architecture allows for much better and more reliable standby and battery control.
The improvement I'd most like to see in the Model 3 is a hatchback.
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I don't think it will ever happen on this model, it would bring the price of the car up.
Me too, no hatch is a showstopper.
Hatch back ??😭😭tf? You gay or some
From the early days of the Model 3 this has been desired. However, Tesla has maintained that the Model 3 will never be a hatchback as the body structure is inadequate to protect the occupants in the event of an accident. So, not going to happen.
hey guys! awesome video~ its 7:40 am and im picking up my model 3, 2023 later on today. im usually a stickshift, turbo guy
I never use autopark - and smart summon is a party trick that I use to convince people that it can drive itself - but never in practice. HOWEVER simple straight line summon (forward or reverse) is amazingly useful - I'd miss it for sure. Reverse summon would be huge - except that it'll be parking itself a long way away and now I'd NEED smart-summon to get it back again!
But usually, Tesla put back missing features fairly quickly - so I doubt it'll be long until they're back in the car again.
I'm happy with my Model 3 FSD (beta) - but do plan to upgrade to a performance model sometime in the near-ish future. My #1 concern is whether I'll get enough money from selling an FSD car to buy another FSD car at their current prices. I've been holding off until FSD (beta) goes "gold" and (probably) my car will be worth the extra I paid for it. We'll see.
Got my TM3LR a month ago, dont know yet if i am exited for having the sencors or not. watching this in my car :)
Picked up my 2023 RWD with enhanced yesterday. Ordered April 5th!
Just picked up a 2023 SR Model 3. First Tesla or EV i've owned. I am absolutely hooked. Two things... while the performance version would be a significant upgrade, I don't see a situation where i'd need any more performance out of this SR. Acceleration is plenty fast for my typical daily driving. I upgraded to the sport wheels and white interior. Immediately ordered ceramic spray for the seats and for sure you'll need something if you purchase the white seats. They show EVERYTHING. All in all, I absolutely love this vehicle. I'm not sure i'll ever buy anything other than a Tesla moving forward.
They need to add a powered frunk and also make the frunk drainable so you can use it as a cooler (the Rivian has this feature, which is super cool, no pun intented, lol).
Hi. Really enjoy your content. We ordered a Model 3 RWD in As you noted, the Long Range was grayed out on the Tesla website so you couldn’t configure or order it online. But the Tesla “salesperson” at the Austin showroom said that they could configure & order the LR in their system. Something you may want to verify but I thought you might find interesting.
We ordered in early October
Phantom breaking is scary due to either ultrasonic sensors or radar/lidar. I had rented a Tesla Model 3 Performance with FSD. I was at an intersection going 45mph to an instant stop and to not get rear ended instantly I had to hit the accelerator fast so instant head forward motion to instant head backward motion can cause sever damage in your neck for the rest of your life. Regardless, I still want to own a Tesla. Just can't afford one yet. It seems the new 2023 Model 3 and Y are limited compared to earlier models, I hope the over the air updates are swift and everyone gets what was taken away back soon but I doubt it. Cutting costs is usually what does a company in. I want a Tesla because of all the features and performance, not a Tesla with limited features. Also, don't want a standard Model 3, Performance all the way baby!
Just ordered a Tesla 3 Long Range, I'm not an FSD customer, but I do wonder about the parking experience without the sensors. I guess I'll find out!
Must be a used one, last I checked new model3 LR are postponed till 2023
I got model3 a week ago. It did not come with a key fob and a charger. Do I have to buy separately?
Not crazy about removing the sensors, it actually guides me in & out of my garage. Also, since you did this last video, the standard model 3 is now $38,390 as of today. Hoping a Tesla reduces their prices for the performance model 3 so it could qualify for the tax credit cap at $55,000 (if this actually passes in Jan 2023). 🤷🏽
Is see the value as of today as $46,900. I assume you are including the 7500$ tax break?
You got what u wished for! Now the M3 can be sold around 30k ish with the EV cr !
Waiting for delivery of our model Y, November 23-December 28. Can you delay accepting vehicle till after first of the year?
Here we are a month later. I ordered a ‘23 Mdl 3 LRAWD five days ago. Delivery is scheduled for two days from now. 7 days from reservation to scheduled delivery. And I had a two day delay while consolidating funds for the down payment into a single account (later learning I could have pulled from multiple accounts).
I put in a trade in request this morning, a sales rep called me 20 or so minutes later and told me the long range Model 3 is available for order again as a 2023. He sent me a link for the build I wanted and I can simply click order and place a deposit. He also said if I placed the order the order today I will be picking it up in a month or so in Fremont, CA.
That's sick. Are you trading in an older model 3 for the new one?
But you will not get the 2023 electric vehicle incentive of $7,500
@@HourRomanticist possibly trading in my 2018 Ram 2500 Megacab. The trade in value is higher than what I paid for the truck 4 years ago.
@@sellingoutloud Will there be a $7,500 tax incentive next year? I’ve been waiting for the $7,500 incentive for a long time. We purchased a Model Y Performance last year, we were tired of holding out for the 4680 batteries and a possible tax incentive.
Model 3 no longer qualifies for Federal tax incentives since it’s over $45K after the latest price increase to $47K. Only the Model Y SUV versions under $80K qualifies in 2023.
Just took delivery of late 2022 model Y AWD 7 seat. We have USS (ultra sonic sensors). Thankful at this moment for the extra hardware. 405 days after original order date. Enjoying our new vehicle.
Just got my 2023 Model 3 Performance. The lack of park sensors bugs me. They should have sorted out the Tesla Vision software first and THEN removed the sensors. I currently have no working park assist features (not that I need them but my 2021 3LR had them and it was nice.)
Yeah this really bugged me as well. I have on order a standard model 3, and I was initially going to get the enhanced autopilot, but hearing that over half of the features are going to be disabled because of the removal of the sensors makes me glad I didn't splurge that extra money. If teslavision wasn't ready to take over for the lack of the sensors no longer being there, then why deactivate the features right now? It doesn't make any sense.
About to sign up for delivery of a new model 3 in late Dec 22 or early Jan 23, No sensors , radar has been removed. Is it worth waiting for a new makeover which has been suggested by some which will take place next year.
Driving a Tesla LRM3 in Marina Del Ray California and waiting for a Model Y in Thailand and at my country residence.
Are they bringing back the ability to plug the controller into the usb again in that centre compartment? That was removed due to a chip shortage
Do you think they will switch to front and rear castings like on the Model Y? I had speculated that that was the other reason they stopped taking orders. This would help margins, improve fit and finish and improve the manufacturing velocity.
If they did this I'd seriously consider selling my LR RWD and "downgrade" to a base Model 3.
I would love to see that. It might even cause me to upgrade my LR RWD to the new one. However, the problem with that is that it would then require 4680 cells with a structural pack. There aren't enough for the MY, CT and SEMI let alone a new M3 so I don't expect it happen any time soon.
@@bryanwhitton1784 Yeah, slim to none...
@@epcalderhead Yeah, it almost seems to me that the M3 has become kind of the ugly step sister of the Tesla product line. I have driven all of the released models and in my opinion the M3 is the best of the bunch as a car goes. The Y and X feel bulky. The S is simply huge. Of course that is simply my opinion and I am pretty sure no one cares.
@@bryanwhitton1784 Hmmm, you and I should form a club. I've taken the Y on several test drives and thought the 3 was more fun to drive over the Y. Don't have ankle biters or need the space daily, so the Model 3 is perfect. We've made several multi-thousand-mile road trips in the 3 and it's amazing how much it holds. We've even "camped" in it a few times on the trips. Admittedly the Y is a better camper. Had several S loaners (old style) and never once came away thinking, "I wish I had an S!" I do have a Cybertruck on order. That seems like the perfect vehicle for road trips if they don't screw up the ability to camp in the back.
I'm planning on getting the model 3 standard but I'm waiting until the EV tax credits become available on January 1st. The range is more then enough for my commute to and from work that if I wanted I'd only have to charge up once a week.
Same here! I’m waiting for the tax credit 🙃
@@MrsLyds in New Jersey where I live you can get up to $9,500 between state and federal credits. Which is just too much money to just pass up some I'm fine with waiting a few months.
@@evandipasquale9255 I’m in Texas, u can only get the federal one. They don’t give state money for Tesla because they don’t have “dealerships” 🥴
@@MrsLyds I think it's more because the state government is in oil/fossil fuel business. And giving incentives to purchase an EV will cut into their profits, most states at the very least will give you money off your utility bill for home charging. But Texas power grid is privately ran do I doubt you even get that.
@@evandipasquale9255 you probably right .. 😫
Picking up a M3 LFP friday at 2pm. The wait was not bad at all, I ordered in June. Our other cars are VW, BMW and Volvo, all of which have shite inventory and are gouging.
Congratulations on getting your new car I probably won’t get mine until at least 2026 😂
@@Eastsidet03 Thank you. Yeah i really don't understand why it's so random. My neighbor says he has been waiting almost a year for the same spec.
I am taking delivery next week, and I ordered in March! M3 LFP
Got it today and it's a 2023. It's suspension feels fantastic on my wrecked roads in my part of eastern MA.
@bill Scott did you get RWD or AWD? Since it is a 2023 does I have the new 5mp cameras?
For context, I couldn't find the Toyota Camry in the top 20 best selling cars in Australia. Granted one site does have the Model Y in the #3 spot.
Will the new S and 3 come with amber indicators similar to the X and Y?
The Bland Model 3 is going strong
I ordered my model 3 on 10/8 picked it up exactly a week later 10/15 standard RWD Blue on White with Sport Rims
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HOW!!!
Is it 2022 or 2023 does it have bumper sensors?
Removin a sensor is not equal to removing a feature hence the feature (autopilot, self-driving, self-parking ect.) is still working or just temporary limited or partially unavailable.
A feature is a value given to you on the fundamental level e.g. car parks itself. Individual parts of the system making this work (eg. certain sensor) are just continuing to make the system work. Parts that over the time can be made redundant.
Removing a part of the features system is not canceling a feature.
Thats like saying Apple removing the headphone jack equals to the removal of the listening to audio feature.
Removing the USS Sensors results currently in limited functions. And this is a fraud when you ordered a car with these features.
Anyway, it is dumb (unbelievable dumb) to rely only on one information source. USS Sensors ylould tell the camera that his interpretation of the world is incorrect.
Tesla needs anyway to upgrade its Car Lineup. Today I would not purchase a Model 3 Performance again. M i4 M50 is a much better car, as well as the Kia EV6 or the new Polestar. They provide "more" Car that is enjoyable. And the ride quality on a Model 3 is for a car at this pricetag unbelievably uncomfortable. The suspension simply is rubbish and, on the Model Y completely catastrophic.
Yes there are arguments for a tesla, but everyday Tesla do not upgrade the Model 3/Y the arguments will be going down.
Special the i4 M40 and M50 are so much nicer cars that I would take these instead of a Tesla.
@@I_love_our_planet very interesting how you shifted the argument into how some other brand cars are better overal for your needs :D
But I read along. I owned a BMW 3 Series F30 from 2016 to 2021. It's a great car and great car manufacturer. Im from germany, they're from my area. See everyone has a different set of how different criteria a car can fullfill is prioritized. My case i absoluteley unique but the mechanics of my local bmw cardealership fucked up my car and the boss protected them and blamed me. It was a huge fight and I was close to getting to court. Because of this incident I sold the car and will never buy one again. Next up criteria I value, Tesla is doing the best. Over the Air update, being innovative, expatsion of the whole intraintegrated Tesla Devices eg Tesla Wallconnector, Tesla Powerwal and Solar roof. There are very interesting possibilities that can be enabled with future software updates. Alot has to do with selling power to the grid of let others use you wall connnector and tesla is handeling the billing ect. Othe Automakers aren't remoteley there. They are like Apples walles garden and contiue to innovate as said. Also I''m a Tesla investor and like to see the company ingeneral succed. Of course I will buy their car. But I have a Renault ZOE until the Tesla is delivered but I willl keep the ZOE. Tesla Supercharger and the seemled Routplanning is unparraleled at the moment. And it holds value way better than comparable EV's. And you don't have to go to services that are just in place so the dealers can rip you off.
@@I_love_our_planet Relying on just one informations source (vision) is unbelivably stupid. Said the human how was driving whit that very same information source only ever since. Haha
@@joe55514 yes and that's why humans are bad drivers.
The FSD program without radar was a bumpy ride, but today (10/5/22) it's a vastly superior system compared to FSD with radar. I expect the same development path for FSD with ultrasonic sensors removal.
😢 idk about this. Cost optimization may not be the best interests to customers. At least they need to add 360 camera
Heads up display will be nice
Reverse Summon is MAJOR! the car will find an open Destination Charger, it will open it's charger port, the Destination Charger will plug itself in. Game changer. The moat has gotten even bigger.
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Will they be improving the quality control on the new model?
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My 22 Model 3 Performance quality at delivery and now 8 months later is very good.
My delivery for 2023 Model 3 is Nov 12. I'm not sure if those sensors have been removed from my model.
I have a model X with FSD, a model 3, and a Y. The 3 and Y just have autopilot. Truthfully just go with the base autopilot. Legislation must pass before any level 5 is ever released.
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I am picking up my M3 tomorrow and I got the 2023. Stoked about the LPF battery.
How did you order it? I ordered my model 3 and will not get it until December but I think it’s the 2022. I didn’t see an option for 2023 on the website
@@karencarrizo7497 ordered it on 5/18/22. I am pretty sure you are gonna get the 2023 model as well.
@@karencarrizo7497 you will know once you get the VIN.
How are you liking it?
@@Patrick-pr6zh its great man. Saves me money.
I have a Model 3 which I bought used. I ordered a Y because of availability of the Model 3, but really like the smaller version. Is there any plan to use the GigaPress to create a lighter front and back frame like the Y which would also increase production rate ultimately and reduce cost?? Thanks
Good question. I am sure Tesla will do it, it just isn't a priority atm.
i need help, im thinking to get either a tesla model 3 long range or a bmw m440i xdrive gran coupe. I'm not sure which one to go with
Wish they had just hatchbacked the 3 also. The back dash is just a inconvenient speaker mount.
With all these decrease in features, the only thing I want to see in the 2023 Tesla is a decrease in price. Funny how that essentially stays the same while they keep removing everything else.
it’s an electric vehicle you can’t expect it to go below 48k
@@yahmyawilson2530 firstly there are Ev’s for less than 48 k lol. Secondly why can’t someone expect lower prices?!
@@bigde131 i was talking about tesla specifically. i don’t expect them to lower their prices
@@yahmyawilson2530 they just did.
bruh OTA is worth it. Decrease in "lidar" is just an increase in Vision
Had 3. Got rid. Not enough range for me. Still loved car
you forgot to mention that the 2023 model 3's come with updated cameras. The 1.25 Megapixel cameras were replaced with 5mp cameras.
For over a month I have been playing with the idea of changing to electric and the model 3 has been my main focus as the model y is out of my price range for the time being. This would be my first electric car and I am nervous to make that jump, what propelled you to finally decide to go full electric?
I got a model 3 lr, definitely worth it. Not having to pay for gas is a huge bonus plus the performance for the price is great. Its super easy to drive and very comfortable.
If you drive a LOT, then the higher payment works out because you're using way less gas. At $6 gas here, it was an easy decision. Just run the numbers
The main factor of why I was thinking electric is I can charge free at my job as they put employee charging in so I initially I wouldn't have to pay to charge at all unless I take off work. At which my electric company just started offering $38 a month weeknights and weekend unlimited charging. They put out the cost to have a lvl 2 charger installed but it's a 10 year contract. It will definitely be an option when I do get into a Tesla.
Something to consider is that insurance was much expensive (for me at least). If you don't have a home with a garage to charge it gets pretty inconvenient having to find charging. Superchargers can be just as expensive as gas depending on the which supercharger you use and if you're charging peak hours. I'd say if you have a home (long term) with a garage to install EV charger, it's definitely worth it. You'd be getting less range than advertised and find yourself charging a lot more often then getting gas. If you don't really have access to charging and find that you'd need to use a super charger, I wouldn't make the switch. Overall the car is amazing, but I wanted to make sure you're aware of the downsides and not be overhyped as I was. Also, no Apple Car Play
@@QuanMa the main reason I was considering the switch to ev is becuase my long term job of 11 years has free charging for employees and there are always spots open so charging wise I'm not too worried about. My electric company just this month started an ev contract for $38 a month unlimited weeknights and weekend charging but the contract is for 10 years, just getting into the ev scene I don't know if I want to commit 10 years off the bat. I will be installing a lvl 2 charger at my home for charging when I take time off from work or just need to charge in general. Thank you so much for your comment!
Well done- thank you
So if I understand this correctly, I order a 2022 Model 3 Performance on July 25. The current delivery date span is between Oct. 17 and Oct. 29. I have not been given a VIN yet. So if I understand this right, it will not be a 2022 but will in fact be a 2023?
They started production of 2023 Model 3 on October 3rd. You’ll get a 2023 model for sure
Will likely be 2023, I ordered in March and mine says 2023
I came here to find that exact answer. We pick it up in 3 days. We ordered it in may. It says it’s a 2023, what are the odds it still has the USS. Kinda bummed. I would’ve tried to find a 22 as to not loose features. I hope they bring back the summon and reverse summon on the 23. Or I just wasted 6 grand. Oh well still excited it’s coming
@@powerscw you should have saw a disclaimer already, right before the steps where you get a VIN. but no, 2023 models won't have USS. Should only be a month tho when we will get those features back, at least that's the rumor.
@@powerscw What is your order date? They changed my delivery date to Oct. 22-Nov. 5. I'm just trying to get a better idea on when it might actually get here. Thanks.
9:25 Re: AMD Ryzen. Very huge vs Intel. Up to 4.5x faster. Less heat/power.
One has always been given to buy or not these is no overbearing salesperson attempting to pressure one into a sale
Waiting for the 4680 battery in a Model Y
I’m picking up my car tomorrow. But apparently it is a 2023 when the insurance typed in the VIN number
How is it so far?
I got my Model 3 RWD on September 30th although scheduled for October. It’s officially a 2022 model yet it appears to be 2023. It still has the ultrasonic sensors, which is actually pretty good when parking. The battery appears to be LFP since since you can charge to 100%. It’s an excellent value. I see no reason to buy a performance or long range.
It's an amazing car man, this 2200 miles now it 0 issues, has sensors came with a charger, matrix leds!! Standard range only thing is the midnight silver it looms Beautiful, nights here have hit in 30s an 0 battery degradation no problems yet here but winter is around the corner here in ne ohio very interested to see! But have fun with your ride 👍🏻😎
As a M3P owner, I see no reason to spend a little more and get something WAY more fun to drive.. But to each his own I suppose!
Its not officially a 2022 or 2023 model. They update on the fly. Something about your car or how it was made, is going to be different than the car they made 1 day before or after.
@@justinmallaiz4549 It’s a 2022 model. It’s shown on the official documentation.
@@finned958 what official documentation?? A window sticker for government compliance? How Tesla handles it (like software) and how the rest of world is set up, is two different things..
Wrong the new 23 performance has 20s and they are awesome
Lmaoo reverse summon 🤣🤣🤣 imagine you car go find itself a spot in a busy parking lot and it’s just going around and round cus it can’t find parking and by the time it gets back the battery is on 10% 🤣🤣🤣
I’ll say it again, Tesla should get into the NVIDIA shield business. Have a stream box and a controller. And instead of streaming from a massive server warehouse. It streams gameplay from the powerful computers in these cars. It could let you make the most of your car even as it sits around. Could be a huge publicity thing too, u don’t need a PS5. Just buy a Tesla 😂
Im really glad I got my 2022.......perfect timing. The new features are no features on the 2023.....
Ditto. My TM3LR is only a month old. Making the first payment today!
@@davidbeppler3032 is your payment really bad?
@@bigde131 My interest rate is good. That is all that matters. Payment is based on length of the loan. Tesla can stretch it out to 72 months.
What is new with the model S?
Teslas never said that they would seek approval for changes in specification of their checked but they would improve their specifications, however they could be influenced into changes.
LFP(IRON) (no cobalt)batteries love 100% charges and 0% discharged. You are receiving the real range of the vehicle vs trying to keep car in the 20-80%(lithium ION) for battery longevity. Lfp have longer life, super rare fire if any. With all manufacturers fighting over lithium, diversifying the batteries, IRON, ION, 4680, 2170, 18650 etc., helps spread choices with less bottlenecks. I have heard almost 50% Teslas already LFP. CATL and BYD prefer LFP’s. Stocks of LG chem fell due to inability to make LFP batteries, just lithium Ion. GM uses LG Chem
LFP have longer battery life? Will not matter. The car will need to be put down in 20 years anyway. LFP batteries are also not worth recycling. Iron is cheap. Granted, always having 100% of the battery would be nice.
New Model 3 performance now costs only 53K and qualify for $7500 tax credit. I am debating between RWD vs Perforamnce. But I want LFP battery. Is it possible to know if Tesla has switched to LFP on Performance model ?
Ugh, I ordered mine in June and it's about to be delivered and just got the vin and it's a 2023 model so I guess I won't be able to use those features for a bit.
I got my Yp fsd right when they removed the radar..(same sorta situation) You won't miss out on anything imo. The features you will be delayed getting haven't been updated in a long time. I believe it will be just as exciting for current owners when you get those features enable .. because it is likely a major update and the features will be greatly improved.
I've got a spring 2019 M3, and it still has the original legacy 12v battery. If the battery goes out before the warranty in spring 2023, or if I buy a new battery from Tesla, will it be a lithium 12v battery?
You can ask Tesla to replace it before it dies. It will die. When it does, it will be inconvenient. Chang it now.
My is coming on October 25th and it's the 2023
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Same
I ordered M3P in August and they had a VIN ready in 3 weeks, with delivery estimated near the end of Sept.. I declined. I now have a estimated delivery end of Oct, but I still do not have a VIN, and the date keeps getting pushed back by a few days. Why did I almost immediately get assigned a car, but now it keeps getting pushed back? I wonder if it has anything to do with removal of sensors or just backlog.
I started driving in the 60’s. I believe USS started in the 80’s. Cameras were too expensive and bulky at that time . As camera prices have come down as well as size USS is a waste of money. I have had USS fail and end up hitting a low lying rock as I was waiting for the sensor noise but nothing. With a camera you know if it’s working or not.
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Camera cruise control is way more nervous than radar. My 2019 Golf did that way better
The cars in existing inventory are not built yet, they are just for people that want to commit to buying before 2023. Read the description on them, it says coming soon and you can get refund if the car is not built by 2023.
That’s not accurate, some are not built yet, some are. It depends
The sensors cost $8.00 each which isn't much of a cost savings to replace 4 on each bumper. Even with them onboard the auto park was having issues with the newer Tesla self park software (previous version had run 3rd party software). So this will let the programmers streamline Data.
12 sensors, cables, manufacturing, times 2 million+ Tesla's each year is significant
Just accepted my delivery 2 days ago for my 2023 m3p. Couldn't be more satisfied
Soooo This video could have been 30 seconds long. Loosing ultra sonic sensor, and 3 features of the 5 for Enhanced AP or FSD. and They added Lithium Ion Battery over the lead acid one they use to use. Jesus this was WAY longer then it had to be.
Summon hasn’t worked since it came out. Doesn’t go 25ft. Why can’t tesla just make the things it offers work, before offering new tech?
I turned off the ultrasonic sensors in my non-Tesla vehicle due to how many false detections I would get if there was the slightest amount of dust on the sensor. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the phantom braking that is still present during FSD Beta, even after the removal of radar, is due to a false detection by the ultrasonic sensors. Tesla likely prioritized input from those sensors over what the vision model was seeing due to the inherent delay of detection with older Beta versions. With the more recent FSD Betas improving the responsiveness of path prediction and object avoidance, not using unreliable inputs from ultrasonic sensors was inevitable. I won't miss them one bit.
The phantom braking is not due to the USS. It is Tesla Vision. My Tesla slams on the brakes when it “sees” a shadow of an oncoming vehicle if the sun is to the left. Similarly, it will see a shadow if the sun is coming from the right. Also, if it sees any person or bicycle at all, it is freak out and slam the brakes. The USS are not doing this.
Agreed this is not the USS causing phantom braking issues that's actually the far from perfect "vision system". Removing radar and USS data points from FSD input IMO is not a good idea. The USS are for close range parking with extremely accurate and near instant detection of small distances. Radar was a redundant data point that can assist when cameras are blocked (sunlight glare, snow etc). This sensor removal strategy is a mistake and I don't know how Elon and the team at Tesla hasn't realized this yet...
I'm still waiting for proper automatic windshield wipers based on this vision 'savings' strategy.
@@199724 the automatic wipers are a pathetic joke!!! My wife has a 22’ Volvo with a real rain sensor (imagine that!) and the auto wipers are FLAWLESS. An absolute pleasure to use. The Tesla forces you in to using them and something my car will just run them on autopilot when it’s not even raining.
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Question: So if i crashed the front or rear of my 2021 M3, would I need to replace the ultrasonic sensors, or can I use a 2023 bumper replacement so its cheaper?
There is new 5 mp cameras on the new one.
I ordered a 2023 model 3 LR two days ago with an ETA of Nov 29 to Dec 27. It was confusing because I bought from the ones listed as existing inventory around San Francisco and got my Vin immediately I made the order yet the delivery date is Nov29 to Dec 27. Today I visited Tesla to understand why the vehicle cannot be identified by the vin and the guy said its still pre-production! Im not sure if someone else has experienced this
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when I ordered 3lr with enhanced autopilot back on January ..... I didn't expect not to get radar nor sensors. Im getting my Tesla next month and its 2023 model and im angry a bit
You’re not the only one. I hope they enable the enhanced AP sooner than later. I feel it’s a step backwards.
I really think to buy the Tesla 3 lr 2022
So I have better car then the 2023 in many things right?
I can order before 2023 what do you think I should do?
After taxes the standard model 3 will cost ~$50,300 cash
Where are you buying your car at? That’s not here in California
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Part of the video when he say New features are at 9:00
"You should only ever charge to 90%". 'Ever', really?
Sloppy.
Wait whats the different Summon and Smart Summon? Dont remember there was 2 of it...
Waittttt what .. Reverse Summon hmmmmmmm feeling skeptical
Summon is just fed and backward in a parking spot or garage.
Smart summon will have the car come to you FROM a parking spot within range (~200’).
Reverse summon is when you leave the car and it drives TO a parking spot.
I live near the GTA and seeing a large amount of model 3's available. I'm interested in a 2019 long range with FSD for under $60k CAD with 80K km. Though I do feel like this large influx of model 3 availability will lead to a decrease in used model 3 prices. WDYT?
my rabbit would love to own this car. so she could take me out and about
So it's it cheaper now???? As they say Radar Expensive LOL
Sound good new upgrades. But I'm not interest in gaming or movies in Tesla upgrades
12 volt lead acid battery usually lasts 2 year’s especially in Arizona. That is why only one year warranty. The old 12 volt system been around a long time so EV manufacturers keep with the tried and true system and spent the money on the powertrain of the car. The 12 volt lithium battery can last 3-5 times longer. You can buy these for gas cars and motorcycles also. 12 volt system is still stressed more today vs the past cuz of more electronics. Some manufacturers moving to48 volt systems. Some gas manufacturers have one battery to start car and another for the electronics.
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Lots of fluff to get this to 12 minute video. He ended up hardly saying anything about the 2023 model
No way. I can afford a bmw 5 series but can’t afford a Tesla model 3.
So what happens to the cars that have those sensors like the 2021-2022 models do they just become obsolete?
Hahahaha yes, by having more use they are useless.
I was wondering also.. I don't think they can turn those off ota
@@blakeogeris2494 I think they can turn them off, either directly by flipping an electronic switch, or by disabling the input the sensor is sending to the navigation system (ignoring it). My M3 still shows the curve around the corners of the car from time to time so I assume they are still active. I might not have received the update with the kill order yet.
$47000 for a standard range model 3 is just too much. When my lease is up on my LR AWD, I am going to buy a Bolt for under $30K.
I think Bolt is the best bang for the buck EV out there.
Yeah. That makes sense. I felt the same way months ago. However, the amount of tesla supercharging stations is growing, and both the Bolt DC fast charging and the Bolt range both pale in comparison to the base Model 3. That said, $30K should be the benchmark for future RWD Model 3s.
is the body gaps even and small as it should be? no wearing of the stearing wheel? the motor will last more than 20 000 km?
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Are you kidding? Certainly the motor will last more than 20,000 km (about 12,500 miles). I have over 80,000 miles (about 129,000 km) on mine and it performs like-new.
@@donaldstinnett5630 read little bit of tesla part and assembly fails dude. i am not making it up just because i want to.
My Tesla isn't in order yet, it is but a dream that one day I will find one that I can afford!
Well…Let’s see: Today you’re affording to pay for fuel at $4 to $6 a gallon. (Electricity is Pennie’s not $’s.) Also oil, radiator, brake fluid (yes you should), steering system fluid, and more changes on a regular basis. None of that needed with a Tesla. No ”tune ups”. Alignments and rotation of tires are needed only rarely. Add it up. You’re already paying for a Tesla but driving whatever is in your driveway now. You might even like a used Tesla just as well, just remember, Tesla’s hold their value really well. You current car’s value is dropping like a rock.
Hoping to get a 2023 M3LR in 2023 and hope the tax credit will be eligible and it’s under 55k
Talking about the "2023 model year" with Tesla is silly. Changes happen continually.
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…..did anyone learn anything new? 😐
"Vision" is a giant downgrade to radar. Phantombraking, intermittent reduced speed from 50 MPh during light/medium rain "due to degraded visibility", had the car "jerk" towards an oncomming truck when it was 10 meters in front of me in light rain. Simply unbelievable bad compared to when car was radar-based and could have lights in manual as it has never worked & after +5 years since TM3 intro, i bet it never ever will. Unbelievable a manufacturer is allowed to degrade my property in such a way. & yes, its also when the car is only on old fashion adaptive cruise-control it ghostbrakes....A constant fight against automations in rain & at night 😞
I have a RWD model 3 on order, and ready for delivery. should I hold off wait for 2023 tax break incentive?
Depends on how long are willing to wait bc I'm sure there are plenty waiting to order come Jan 1st to get the credits. By that time, wait time might get crazier and Tesla might have to raise the price again to trim out waiting times. So, you might end up waiting longer and paying more.
No the standard model 3 doesn't qualify for 2023 rebate because the LFP battery is from China even thow I think it may qualify for half because it is built in US. I would wait until December thats when we will know for sure, you could get $3750 back, Good Luck!
@@nicholasmuni7995 do you think they will lower the price of the long range dual motor all-wheel drive model 3 to qualify for EV tax incentive? $55k
If you ordered the Model 3 after Feb 2022, too late. The Model 3 RWD price increase makes it ineligible for federal tax incentives in 2023. The Model Y under $80K qualifies.
@@finned958 The 2023 Federal Tax incentive is for cars that are $55k or less, not $45k. However, we don’t know if the base model 3 will qualify because of where the battery is produced. If they lower the price of the long range to 55k or less then that should qualify since it’s a different battery.