Breaking the ‘Bad Woman’ Stereotype Ft. Krishna in Ishqiya

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • What makes a woman 'bad' in a Bollywood film, and how did Krishna from the movie Ishqiya make us rethink the trope of the 'bad woman'?
    'Recasting' is The Swaddle’s new video series where we look at characters who defy the stereotypes of Indian cinema.
    Edit and Motion Graphics: Pranav Ratra
    Art Director: Neha Shekhawat
    Scriptwriters: Debdatta Sengupta, Anushka Dias
    Additional Research: Samiksha Mathur
    Voiceover: Anahita Sachdev
    Creative Director: Shrishti Malhotra
    Executive Producer: Karla Bookman
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 402

  • @AJ-zg1nq
    @AJ-zg1nq 3 роки тому +115

    A smart woman will never go for being the "heroine" depicted in bollywood movies. I'd rather be called a bad woman than have no aspirations other than love and devoting my life to a man.

  • @Amar77033
    @Amar77033 3 роки тому +623

    When we see male actors drinking in the movies they try to show that the heroes have tragic past or something bad is happening in their life but when women drink in the movies there's no reason behind it they are just bad character

    • @Amar77033
      @Amar77033 3 роки тому +43

      @@Ayisha4889 yess! most of the time heroins cast for just glamour.

    • @hopeslies3364
      @hopeslies3364 3 роки тому +27

      @Riya Saha You do know #Metoo is for sexual harassment, right? There's a difference between seducing and sexually harassing. If a woman sexually harasses her way up the corporate ladder, she is as guilty of sexual harassment as any other man would be. But seduction and consensual sex for whatever reason does not make her guilty of molestation 🙄🙄

    • @Amar77033
      @Amar77033 3 роки тому +1

      @@jkshallinheritearth3883 why do you think that??

    • @anitachandra2030
      @anitachandra2030 3 роки тому

      @The superior MGTOW first of all the woman is t forcing the high status man to have sex with her. Moreover metoo is against sexual harrassment and non consensual sexual activities. How in the world can you even compare them?

    • @anitachandra2030
      @anitachandra2030 3 роки тому +2

      @@jkshallinheritearth3883 so you are saying that handsome men don't get accused of sexual harrassment?

  • @raaganaada6493
    @raaganaada6493 3 роки тому +378

    Over time we have understood that we shouldn't judge someone by their choice of clothes, choice to drink and smoke, choice to choose a partner, choice to express sexuality. Something applaudable about society now is the paradigm shift in way of understanding life and embracing wholesome acceptance of people around as they are
    Edit - I feel there are too many teenagers in the comments section who have borrowed their parents phones under the pretext of online classes and posting non sense comments totally deviating from the topic.
    The whole point of the video was a particular outfit some habits do not make a person bad. Anyway you're too immature to understand and please start attending online classes instead of this non sense.
    Whatever you say WE DON'T CARE. We'll do what we want. Bye 😁😁😁

    • @at1906_
      @at1906_ 3 роки тому +44

      I don't think judging someone is bad per se, as long as there is no infringement on someone else's rights. People judge each other all the time and it is natural for humans to do so.

    • @sharma1457
      @sharma1457 3 роки тому +3

      @@at1906_ ya right the person in the above comment may have forgotten to mention this

    • @tani6071
      @tani6071 3 роки тому +10

      @@at1906_ yes and we judge they for ourselves, as to should we let them be in our conpany
      And not disrespecting or looking down on them at the same time

    • @at1906_
      @at1906_ 3 роки тому +2

      @@sharma1457 The OP is actually stating the opposite of what I am stating. It is saying that judgements are bad. I don't think that judgements are bad.

    • @at1906_
      @at1906_ 3 роки тому +4

      @@tani6071 When you are judging someone and due to said judgement, you are allowing/disallowing them in your company, you are, by default, already looking up to/down on someone and their choices.
      Do you see the logical fallacy in your argument???

  • @anahita_sachdev
    @anahita_sachdev 3 роки тому +132

    Krishna was really the perfect character to understand how we can't portray all characters in just black or white, as 'evil' or 'good.' Love how this explores the complexity of that!

    • @shikhashaw6393
      @shikhashaw6393 3 роки тому +8

      @Riya Saha First, no it's not right but most people use it an excuse to demean women's capability. It much less often than people blow up to be. And it's not black and white as the movie shows. Some women try to use their sexuality for advantage and men may or mayn't deny. It doesn't harm the men.
      But when a boss asks for so called favours from their employees in return of promotion and stop their promotion inspite of their professional capability. That's when MeeToo comes.
      Man offering a female boss favours are not common because unlike men most women don't see men as sexual objects.

    • @syriaramenchinese9593
      @syriaramenchinese9593 3 роки тому +6

      @@shadowhymn5162 I don’t want to be Meerabai or Ahilyabai. I want to wear shorts, drink a little with friends and have fun without feeling immoral. Swaddle points out double standards and the oppressions of Indian ‘culture’. Indians only glorify women who sacrifice, fit the cultured bill and befitted them . Real women-hood and manhood is a construct from society to benefit from them by devoiding them of their personal freedoms, more from women than men. The real womanhood you are talking about only seeks to benefit from them rather than comply to their wishes. Also why would swaddle want to inculcate western ideals into women and make them haywire? To control society? Why would they want to spread propaganda by going against a culture that oppresses people? They do have fair points to make.

    • @RMatt2016
      @RMatt2016 3 роки тому +5

      @The superior MGTOW there are many movies or shows that try to spark sympathy for a Morally wrong character. For example, have you seen the Netflix series "You"? It's about a serial killer but the way its shot and presented makes you... sympathize with him because of his past. But it's still obviously wrong ethically and Morally. But it's good to understand a person's motive.
      In any case such shows should not be watched by kids. They may misunderstand

    • @ajayk.3356
      @ajayk.3356 3 роки тому +1

      @@shikhashaw6393 so u r saying that if a women seduce a boss then it not harm men..
      I think u r living in a bubble, my friend a capable candidate but in his a office a women whose is not a capable women for promotion but she got promotion. Do u know why because she seduce her boss(yeah it a women who seduce her male boss) for getting promotion... And my friend didn't get promotion because of her... And this is common in corporate sector.
      So it harm men, why can't a achieve thing by her talent rather than using Ber sexuality ...
      And talking about famale boss then OK left me tell u truth, male employe seduce their female boss but the important and got thing is that male employe doesn't expect promotion in return they just have sex and forget.. And even female boss also seduce her male employe because they know that male employe doesn't accept promotion in return... And I am telling this by my own corporate experience....

    • @justawlwwholikesshygirls5704
      @justawlwwholikesshygirls5704 2 роки тому

      @@shadowhymn5162 agree with that too an extent but it is sort of idiotic how women are judged for wearing slightly revealing clothes or drinking and labelled as promiscuous. In some people's eyes, woman doing anything that even slightly benefits her is promiscuous. And that's wrong.
      Instead of promoting actual promiscuity (that is cheating/molesting etc) they should promote that being yourself isn't promiscuous. Liking fashion isn't being characterless.

  • @ethellochrose6531
    @ethellochrose6531 3 роки тому +43

    Even though we've humanized our villains and stopped associating liberated women with loose moral "bad" women in Bollywood movies and OTT shows, regional shows and soaps till hold on to the trends form the 50s.
    For instant, in Marathi serials, the vamp is always the modern woman who wears short clothes and doesn't believe in being selfless and submissive. She wants to work, wants to separate the hero from his family by asking to live separately and doesn't believe in traditions. Examples: Majhya Navryachi Baiko, Aai Kuthe Kay Karte.
    It breaks my heart to see women watch this garbage and stigmatized independence and free will.

    • @cauliflowerhead2735
      @cauliflowerhead2735 3 роки тому +5

      I think that's true for Hindi serials as well

    • @ajayk.3356
      @ajayk.3356 3 роки тому +2

      I hope u accept kabir Singh as a imperfect men...

  • @asha1537
    @asha1537 3 роки тому +43

    People are complex whether it's male or female. No one is completely good or completely bad. In our childhood we thought sleeping beauty was cursed by a bad mean fairy. But finally Disney acknowledged the back story of the bad fairy(maleficent) . Similarly when we start judging someone be it male or female first we must empathize with that person. It is completely wrong to categorize people as good or bad. Similary movies also should portray multidimensionality of a character, and not just their bright or dark side

    • @risinggamer7423
      @risinggamer7423 3 роки тому +1

      Disney make malificient for money they never had a story for her in first place that what I have heard

    • @shinosukeff2925
      @shinosukeff2925 2 роки тому +1

      @@risinggamer7423 it isn't about disney... it's about the character-

  • @shinchannohara2102
    @shinchannohara2102 3 роки тому +96

    So, the "vamps" of old times were ahead of their time

    • @audio4642
      @audio4642 3 роки тому +3

      Agreed shinchan
      Ya plus I'm your fan
      So stop being naughty

    • @at1906_
      @at1906_ 3 роки тому

      They were anachronistic for their time, similar to how the "modest Indian women" is anachronistic today in Bwood.

    • @shinchannohara2102
      @shinchannohara2102 3 роки тому +5

      @@audio4642 I won't 😏

    • @anatine_banana_69
      @anatine_banana_69 3 роки тому +1

      @@shinchannohara2102 as a person who's watched uncensored Shinchan, I'm worried for your peers

    • @shinchannohara2102
      @shinchannohara2102 3 роки тому +4

      @@anatine_banana_69 hehehe ab mai itna bhi kuch khaas nahi 😅

  • @travelcutlet
    @travelcutlet 3 роки тому +5

    absolutely killer video! and a whole new lens of looking at female characters, thank you for this.

  • @vikassagar2304
    @vikassagar2304 3 роки тому +21

    I watch every videos of TheSwaddle, whether it biased or unbiased. Ye series bhi dekhunga. At least kuch to pta chalta hi hai girls k baare main. Jinhone kabhi girls se baat bhi nhi ki hai.😊 good job, theswaddle

    • @khushi.jaizwal
      @khushi.jaizwal 3 роки тому +9

      I appreciate ur Wisdom

    • @vikassagar2304
      @vikassagar2304 3 роки тому +3

      @@khushi.jaizwal 🤝🤝😊

    • @vikassagar2304
      @vikassagar2304 3 роки тому +3

      @Heinz Doofenshmirtz 🤝🤝

    • @aayehomerizindgimtuumbahar3380
      @aayehomerizindgimtuumbahar3380 3 роки тому +4

      @Semen_Demon You go and study if you want to clear JEE under 100 rank 👍

    • @vikassagar2304
      @vikassagar2304 3 роки тому +1

      @Semen_Demon swaddle bhi sahi hi batayega girls k baare mai. I mean, girls kya kya problems face karti hain ye sab kuch swaddle bata deta hai.

  • @noone7097
    @noone7097 3 роки тому +4

    But is it necessary for anybody to drink or smoke to show the world that they are independent/Bold? Choose your way of life, but don't harm your body. Be wise enough while choosing the pleasure that doesn't come back haunting your physical and mental health.

  • @swatisaini6447
    @swatisaini6447 3 роки тому +12

    0:24 nadira
    0:25 bindu
    0:28 Aruna Irani
    0:29 helen

    • @anatine_banana_69
      @anatine_banana_69 3 роки тому

      @Heinz Doofenshmirtz if I had a nickel for every time I saw one of your comments, I'd have two nickels; which isn't much but it's weird that it's happened only twice (considering you're a top commentor)

    • @zombieoatmeal284
      @zombieoatmeal284 3 роки тому +2

      Thank you for that

  • @tani6071
    @tani6071 3 роки тому +7

    I want to see more if this
    It indeed made me see all the villains in new light and perspective!

    • @ajayk.3356
      @ajayk.3356 3 роки тому

      U r accept kabir singh

    • @tani6071
      @tani6071 3 роки тому

      @@ajayk.3356 I can accept him as an individual but glorifying it on national platform is unacceptable.

  • @justlearn24
    @justlearn24 3 роки тому +5

    If a girl is Modern in thinking n outfit, intelligent ,educated, working,bold, confidence, smart enough ,knows wt to do when to whom n how to tackle with this world she is definitely not a bad one or characterless n a girl who wears full clothes, educated,stupid, naive, simple but obedient doesn't mean she is the right 1

  • @udayankarmarkar
    @udayankarmarkar 3 роки тому +1

    Seems like a stretch to connect Vidya Balan from Ishqiya to vamps in 50-80s period.. but whatever, it's your channel :)

  • @spamham7965
    @spamham7965 3 роки тому +5

    the swaddle shooting arrows to privileged men's ego. Oh how i love to see men getting pissed.

  • @maha_sage
    @maha_sage 3 роки тому

    You already did this video before

  • @AnshuKumari-dd8kr
    @AnshuKumari-dd8kr 3 роки тому +8

    Cocktail bhi toxic movie hai. Deepika was a vamp and Diana was a good girl, and Saif playboy gets a good girl not playgirl as he is 😂👌

  • @endisnear306
    @endisnear306 3 роки тому +3

    Be bad but not evil

  • @ActualArtifice
    @ActualArtifice 3 роки тому +1

    Indeed!

  • @JIN-fn9gi
    @JIN-fn9gi 3 роки тому +1

    B S

  • @komals7026
    @komals7026 3 роки тому +798

    It just makes me so happy when Vidya Balan utters even a single word

    • @urvibhardwaj6685
      @urvibhardwaj6685 3 роки тому +11

      I exactly know what you're talking about

    • @ahemahem7056
      @ahemahem7056 3 роки тому +35

      @Riya Saha seducing is different from raping

    • @snehaghosh4132
      @snehaghosh4132 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah she is a queen 👑😍

    • @komals7026
      @komals7026 3 роки тому +10

      @Akash Mishra, MGTOW well I'm sorry if u think I meant it in that way... I'm just talking in general that she's really amazing and confident about her words..chahe woh interviews ho yaa movies she always knows how and what she's speaking and the way she speaks, I'm not sure but I guess that's bengali accent and it sounds really beautiful when she speaks with that accent. My comment actually had no context with the video...the reason I wrote this comment is because they played a short clip of her from the interview and it made me feel so good to hear her , that's all.

    • @swapnasandhya6073
      @swapnasandhya6073 3 роки тому

      She is goddess.🤩🤩

  • @kiaraswan9940
    @kiaraswan9940 3 роки тому +1013

    I love how Indian people say that sex and "women who wear indecent clothes" is a western concept.
    Look at ancient temples around us. Look at unfiltered, uneditied stories of our God's and goddesses. Look at ancient texts like kamasutra.
    Sex, and people's bodies weren't villainized and shamed and covered. They were explored and respected for their natural functions.
    There are so many depictions of sex and naked bodies in our culture, and it was never shown as bad, neither was naked body equated to sex.
    It was the invaders (Britishers, Mughals) who enforced the concepts of "modesty", "naked bodies are inappropriate", "women should cover themselves" etc. And now the west is evolving and realising that sex shouldn't be villainized and women shouldn't be objectified for what they wear, while we Indians still have the same backward mentality which isn't even really part of our "culture"

    • @khushi.jaizwal
      @khushi.jaizwal 3 роки тому +13

      Ikrrrrr!!!

    • @mrtriyja7800
      @mrtriyja7800 3 роки тому +3

      Don't read BS from Wendy doniger and other bytches

    • @ayushimittal3959
      @ayushimittal3959 3 роки тому +146

      @@Ayisha4889 and who visits prostitutes ? sanskari, decent men, right ?

    • @AnshuKumari-dd8kr
      @AnshuKumari-dd8kr 3 роки тому +37

      @@Ayisha4889 logon ki pyas na bhuji thi, na bhuji hai aur na kabhi bhujegi so prostitution tha, hai aur rahega, aur society hamesa shaturmurg ki tarah mitti main sar chhupa ke rakhegi ki prostitution naam ki koi chidiya hoti hai😂

    • @hopeslies3364
      @hopeslies3364 3 роки тому +96

      @Megha Singh You actually read his entire comment?? I fell asleep after the first line 😂

  • @dreamer9375
    @dreamer9375 3 роки тому +325

    And how Ekta Kapoor demonised the vamps even more. It still infuriates me!

    • @user-sc9mz2du2e
      @user-sc9mz2du2e 3 роки тому +33

      @@eaglemgtow2789 OK listen, nobody told that exploiting a man is awesome. But then again why don't men just reject the woman's advances. And you are comparing seducing with the METOO movement which is about sexually harassed people (you know where the other person don't give consent) and the METOO movement has both men and women(since you were saying like woman use the metoo movement blah blah).

    • @Kingpin-zr5vg
      @Kingpin-zr5vg 3 роки тому +5

      @@user-sc9mz2du2e just because it's consensual doesn't mean it's appropriate, Vidhya Balan just a played the character so no hate on her but her character is the very defenition of bad charactered.

    • @dreamer9375
      @dreamer9375 3 роки тому +6

      @@eaglemgtow2789 This is not even related to the topic. Troll better, babe.

    • @dreamer9375
      @dreamer9375 3 роки тому +7

      @Vaidic Chaturvedi I tried finding this exact quote, didn't find it anywhere.
      Besides, you're quoting a book the whole existence of which is ignored by Indians these days. Stop relying on books written hundreds of years ago. Let's start with textbooks, shall we?

    • @vaidicchaturvedi219
      @vaidicchaturvedi219 3 роки тому

      @@dreamer9375 And what existence is ignored, I don't care about anyone else, I am a brahmin so it's my duty to read the sacred texts, I don't care about what anyone else is doing.

  • @shrishtimalhotra2406
    @shrishtimalhotra2406 3 роки тому +186

    Reading cinema against the grain is super duper exciting. There's so much you can tell about a society and the times just by seeing how a 'bad' woman was portrayed then.

    • @adibakalimi9108
      @adibakalimi9108 3 роки тому

      Yesss

    • @pamelasarkar9763
      @pamelasarkar9763 3 роки тому

      Not to say much about your comment, but the three of the main trolls of this video, and probably of other Swaddle videos as well, who are so illiterate that they cannot write newer comments, have also come under this thread.
      Now they'd spread a little more shit here. So beware. 🙃

  • @pa4760
    @pa4760 3 роки тому +315

    I'm a women from Nepal but i can relate so much to these situations. Divided by border, united by misogyny😷.
    Keep up the good work swaddle. You've no clue how you've inspired us from so many ways.❤

  • @incognitouser8256
    @incognitouser8256 3 роки тому +223

    Interestingly, the so-called-Vamps are the FEMINIST ICONS

    • @audio4642
      @audio4642 3 роки тому +10

      @@Ayisha4889 nothing

    • @shinchannohara2102
      @shinchannohara2102 3 роки тому +28

      @@Ayisha4889 you

    • @incognitouser8256
      @incognitouser8256 3 роки тому +39

      @@Ayisha4889 your understanding was wrong. Those days till the 90s( mostly), female leads who upheld the “Indian Values and customs” were Heroines. Those who refused were seen as Vamps and Villanesses.

    • @mrtriyja7800
      @mrtriyja7800 3 роки тому +4

      @@incognitouser8256
      Well a mad man is also free and liberated in a way.
      But we must keep a distance and aware others also .

    • @khushi.jaizwal
      @khushi.jaizwal 3 роки тому +4

      @@incognitouser8256 just as in movie "jalebi". Would recommend to watch

  • @khushi.jaizwal
    @khushi.jaizwal 3 роки тому +109

    As if toxic men from sacred games and mirzapur isn't romanticized by Emo bois who even get a happy ending most of the times. But unlike those, vidyya got her karma and died. And this is how it should be, if the main character is a molestor ,he shouldn't get a happy life just like Kabir Singh !!!!!

    • @sup4818
      @sup4818 3 роки тому +26

      @@eaglemgtow2789 no one said it's good to exploit men, they just said how she did that and still had the audience's sympathy as opposed to characters a few decades earlier

    • @Coolguy-or8ex
      @Coolguy-or8ex 3 роки тому +11

      The so called ' brave feminists ' like swaddle have no guts to criticize Islam or any other religions they only attack indian and hindu culture

    • @dialga7777
      @dialga7777 3 роки тому +1

      @@Coolguy-or8ex On point 👍

    • @eyeball5685
      @eyeball5685 3 роки тому +7

      @@eaglemgtow2789 Lmao there's a huge difference between getting lured and coercion. Understand before speaking anything.

    • @ajayk.3356
      @ajayk.3356 3 роки тому +1

      Vidya balan support kabir Singh because she knows that like women men also have grey shads and they can also be a imperfect men...
      And kabir Singh tell us about a grey and imperfect men..
      But women can't accept men as imperfect character....

  • @rishvanthgv4396
    @rishvanthgv4396 3 роки тому +151

    The children who see these movies,tend to have the same thought process,and no one is there to change that

    • @bhumika0890
      @bhumika0890 3 роки тому +24

      @@Ayisha4889 they have nice though and don't even judge people

    • @mrtriyja7800
      @mrtriyja7800 3 роки тому +7

      @@bhumika0890
      It's important to judge otherwise how would we differentiate between a potential promiscuous women from a quality women.

    • @bhumika0890
      @bhumika0890 3 роки тому +27

      @@mrtriyja7800 nothing and no one deserve to be judge by a group of people who can't just mind there own business and just put there leg out of other's life Choice

    • @dreamer9375
      @dreamer9375 3 роки тому +24

      @@mrtriyja7800 Funny how you say it's important but add only women in that category. If you're so eager to judge, judge them all..women, men, children, elderlies. Judge them all equally and then tell me where it gets you.

    • @khushi.jaizwal
      @khushi.jaizwal 3 роки тому +19

      Its an adult movie, not for children. If kids from ur home are into these, may be you all have failed being a guardian.

  • @ColourMeRed_1990
    @ColourMeRed_1990 3 роки тому +44

    You should definitely do a bad woman recast from Indian television. The bad woman being more fashionable than the heroine, more expressive of her feelings

  • @iseedarksideofeverything5233
    @iseedarksideofeverything5233 3 роки тому +215

    *"Well behaved women seldom make history"*
    - *Laureal Thatcher Ulrich*
    And whenever I read this quote I get reminded of *Marilyn Monroe* , the greatest vamp of all time

  • @lafzzzzzzzzz
    @lafzzzzzzzzz 3 роки тому +28

    these are female characters written by male writers who for a very long time made them to suit the normative.

  • @SnippetsfromJazz
    @SnippetsfromJazz 3 роки тому +24

    Swaddle,can you please make a series on how tv series and commercials severely affect a large diverse proportion of Indian viewers?

    • @RivanJDas-rz7ug
      @RivanJDas-rz7ug 3 роки тому +4

      @Akash Mishra, MGTOW Jeezzzzz.
      This video flooded with your comments.
      What's going on Akash?

    • @RivanJDas-rz7ug
      @RivanJDas-rz7ug 3 роки тому

      @Riya Saha MeToo is against sexual harassment and assault.
      Women across the spectrum opened up and shared their stories about abuse by men in different position.
      Whether it's in
      Office
      Media
      Bollywood
      Journalism etc...
      MeToo is for obnoxious behavior by men.
      From unwanted attention seeking in the office to sexual innuendos on the film set.
      However MeToo should be done only if woman feels uncomfortable with the behavior of man.

    • @RivanJDas-rz7ug
      @RivanJDas-rz7ug 3 роки тому +1

      @Riya Saha Oh you're a man.
      Jeezzz again.

  • @anushaneogi3609
    @anushaneogi3609 3 роки тому +14

    Can we have a video regarding the stigma surrounding self-pleasure for women pls?

  • @harshitasharma3168
    @harshitasharma3168 3 роки тому +12

    A woman expressing herself
    A BAD WOMAN 🙂

  • @ruchirasarma9293
    @ruchirasarma9293 3 роки тому +14

    There's no doubt that the content is fabulous, but the editing and the overall presentation is really really good!!! Thank you for this video.

  • @aleenascaria6851
    @aleenascaria6851 3 роки тому +19

    Morals are how we treat the people we know. It's what makes you a good friend, neighour, partner, parent etc. BUT, Ethics are what builds a society.
    The problem with our society is that its run by the subjective morals of one group of people and they try to project their morals on complete strangers and we end up with a society that's governed by self-aggradizement. By being the first peasant to jump up to teach others a lesson about one's own moral point of view, we've done our part in the erosion of our entire social fabric. So, try to judge less...

    • @aleenascaria6851
      @aleenascaria6851 3 роки тому

      @Akash Mishra, MGTOW I'm not justifying conniving criminals who set out to destroy people's lives for their greed. I'm urging for a society where people do not judge other people (complete strangers) based on their personal set of morals. For example, you and your family might think (just assuming) that women who go partying are all loose, women who consume alcohol are characterless; and you project that thought onto a complete stranger say me and my family and you point us out in society saying "these people are immoral" because we don't follow your subjective morals.. that's what I'm saying.

    • @Kingpin-zr5vg
      @Kingpin-zr5vg 3 роки тому

      @@aleenascaria6851 both men and women who drink and smoke are considered bad charactered cause it's clearly unhealthy and they chose to do that. So instead of whining, it's better to take good choices.

    • @aleenascaria6851
      @aleenascaria6851 3 роки тому +1

      @Riya Saha It's not ethically wrong for two consenting adults to engage in a sexual relationship given that it's not coerced. It might be after marriage or before depending upon one's own set of morals. Here you are assuming that all men are naive and gullible and are unable to recognise other's true intentions. This is the same assumption given by moral polices who try to shut women indoors and ask them to wear "clothes" considered decent (acc. to them) because they might entice men. It's pure and clear victim blaming.

    • @aleenascaria6851
      @aleenascaria6851 3 роки тому +1

      @@Kingpin-zr5vg See that's my point. One knows alcohol is bad for health. One's own personal health. Then why do you think the indian government or any govt. for that matter has not banned alcohol, till now? Because we cannot run a society based on one's own personal life choices. For example, you don't drink or smoke at all, some people drink and smoke occasionally keeping their health in check, some people drink and smoke like no tomorrow. All of these are personal choices and are directly affecting an individual. AN INDIVIDUAL, that's my point. You are completely free to not indulge with people who drink and smoke, but what you don't have freedom to do is ask say me and my family to also not do it. That's where the difference between morals and ethics arise.

    • @raghavnamasivayam8706
      @raghavnamasivayam8706 10 місяців тому

      ​@@aleenascaria6851whatever you do affects society society is based of individuals

  • @parichayhin6141
    @parichayhin6141 3 роки тому +13

    I may like to watch/read various shades in fictional characters, irrespective of their gender; but in reality for me atleast, I would love to live a simple life, minding my own business. Instead of taking law in my hands, would fight within the law, if I feel the law is faulty or unfair then will fight against the law by using other laws.
    Enjoying or understanding the characters like Krishna or Kabir Singh is one thing, taking the inspiration from the good side of their characters is acceptable, appreciating the actors and all the people involved in the work for their job is also okay....But glorifying the 'whole' character? To me atleast this can't be acceptable.

  • @lalhitrs30off82
    @lalhitrs30off82 3 роки тому +9

    *Bhavina Patel* ✨✨ *wins silver 🥈* in the *final* of *Table Tennis* 🏓 in her debut *Paralympics games* 🥳🥳
    She is the first Indian to play in the finals of Table Tennis in Paralympics games and win a medal 🇮🇳

  • @ravenclaw_beater
    @ravenclaw_beater 3 роки тому +12

    Ishqiya
    Paa
    Kahani
    Dirty picture
    Begum Jaan....etc
    I love Balan's taste

    • @khushi.jaizwal
      @khushi.jaizwal 3 роки тому +1

      🤚

    • @ayushimittal3959
      @ayushimittal3959 3 роки тому

      yeah I love her versatility in roles

    • @ravenclaw_beater
      @ravenclaw_beater 3 роки тому

      @Akash Mishra, MGTOW how mature of you to only blame the women. Be it my father, brother, future husband or anyone, he is equally responsible.

  • @danerysstormborn7719
    @danerysstormborn7719 3 роки тому +7

    You guys are doing a great job. It truly makes me happy to watch these videos :)

  • @lamolamoa4442
    @lamolamoa4442 3 роки тому +4

    Even though the moives show women dressing up more openly the society still considers women as immoral for dressing that way .. (they even demoralise the heroines )

  • @the8star
    @the8star 3 роки тому +3

    in indian serials , the women who wears western clothing is always a villian or a bad woman , and the women who wears a saree is the good one

    • @the8star
      @the8star 3 роки тому

      @Jin Hit Entertaement Officialu I don't watch it. my family does

  • @cauliflowerhead2735
    @cauliflowerhead2735 3 роки тому +4

    The best thing to happen to India is industrial liberalisation. That opened us up to so many possibilities and perspectives and enabled us to come out of our cultural cacoon. I'm glad we're finally questioning the Madonna-w*ore complex and viewing woman as complex beings rather than artless uni-dimensional creatures.

  • @DhruvShah003
    @DhruvShah003 Рік тому

    And the “Bad man” or “Bad husband” is always stereotypically the one who is patriarchal, controlling, wife-beater, conservative.
    These never get recasted. No one ever justifies their behavior. And everyone is fine with that “villainous man”.

  • @dikshakar113
    @dikshakar113 3 роки тому +2

    I loved the main structure of this video ...the thing that really matters is , we should grow and develop ourselves and not "how" we do that ....nothing should be concerned as long as we reflect our true identity.

  • @at1906_
    @at1906_ 3 роки тому +14

    The reason why Indian audience, of that time, weren't appreciative of "Vamps" is because they seemed anachronistic for their time. Indians, then, weren't in touch with Western culture and lifestyle and, therefore, saw such "Vamps" as aberrations.
    However, with globalization, Western culture pervaded Indian cinema (which this video mentions too) and Indians started to familiarize themselves with the "Vamp" trope and now it has become quite prevalent in Indian cinema, so much so, that the "modest women" trope has become an aberration. Everything changes with time.

    • @swatisaini6447
      @swatisaini6447 3 роки тому +2

      Hollywood had vamps too it's called femme fatale. Swaddle mentioned it too. There could be slight variations in both tropes but the mindset is same

    • @at1906_
      @at1906_ 3 роки тому +4

      @@swatisaini6447 The "Femme fatale" trope is French and not American (Hwood).
      However, I am talking about Indian movies and how this "Vamp"/"Femme fatale" trope got into Indian movies and now has become prevalent. In this day and age of Internet, people are aware of such tropes, however, back in those days, people weren't.

    • @swatisaini6447
      @swatisaini6447 3 роки тому +3

      @@at1906_ yes femme fatale is french word but u can find this trope in Hollywood movies also.
      Anyways what I meant is that humans have always liked to categorise anything and everything in standard black and white, conveniently ignoring the shades in between

    • @at1906_
      @at1906_ 3 роки тому +2

      @@swatisaini6447 Correct.

    • @kiaraswan9940
      @kiaraswan9940 3 роки тому +6

      @@Ayisha4889 actually 😀
      The concept of "modesty" and "well behaved women" is not part of Indian culture.
      This has been enforced upon us by Britishers and Mughal invaders (who brought upon the parada system)
      Look at ancient temples: many of them have "indecently dressed women" in "vulgar, sexual" poses.
      The hatred and conservative mindset towards women and sex is something we have adopted from the west.

  • @boyfromthemountains
    @boyfromthemountains 3 роки тому +1

    The fact is jab tak is desh mein cenima challe ga tab log chutiya ban te rahenge, and it's doesn't need a very smart individual to point out who's the biggest fan of Indian cenima, be it bollywood or be it daily soaps could you just take a stand for that and move ahead.

  • @abinn88
    @abinn88 3 роки тому +1

    all the other ladies seduced through clothes krishna seduced through eyes

  • @redpilled4872
    @redpilled4872 3 роки тому +12

    *Make a video on Gender Neutral laws. and why Feminists are against Gender Neutral laws*
    why Priyadarshini yadav still not arrested ?
    why women are not punished for abusing, harassing & beating men ?
    why domestic violence against men still legal in India ?
    why women not punished for adultery why only men ?
    why women are not punished equally as men ? why our laws treats men as 2nd class citizens ?

    • @abhinavtiwari4
      @abhinavtiwari4 3 роки тому

      They won't make it 😂😂😂

    • @redpilled4872
      @redpilled4872 3 роки тому +2

      @@abhinavtiwari4 they only worried about Bollywood movies. according to thier logic kids who watch spiderman they will jump from the building. we have brains to think which is good and bad. what is film and real life. they are busy in promoting Bollywood scenes instead of talking the real issues.

    • @redpilled4872
      @redpilled4872 3 роки тому +1

      @yiippeee Rajput No. only men are punished for adultery. women are not.

    • @redpilled4872
      @redpilled4872 3 роки тому +1

      @yiippeee Rajput why do u speak in the @ss instead of mouth ? if u speak in the @ss then what is the the function of mouth ?

    • @peeper646
      @peeper646 3 роки тому +1

      "Thou shalt not expect feminists to talk about men" - Book of truth, 4:45

  • @annanyaagarwal8624
    @annanyaagarwal8624 Рік тому

    1:22 as long as papa approved 😂😂

  • @balavelavan7469
    @balavelavan7469 2 роки тому

    To be honest ... I have never watched any of the movie this person is speaking about in "re casting" . This make me more curious to watch it . All the ones she speak in their videos 🤭

  • @khushi.jaizwal
    @khushi.jaizwal 3 роки тому +4

    This was one of my fav swaddle 's video. Great job guys.

    • @Coolguy-or8ex
      @Coolguy-or8ex 3 роки тому +2

      No it's the worst video

    • @factshouse3690
      @factshouse3690 3 роки тому +1

      @Riya Saha That's why equal gender laws are important.
      And, yes if she started harrassing a man in the name of seduction, she should be charged with harrasment case.
      A man is not a object.

  • @arunimabasak5863
    @arunimabasak5863 3 роки тому

    OMG I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS SERIES OF "RECASTING" BY THE SWADDLE. PLEASE DO MOREE OF THESE!!!!!!!!!!

  • @aayushigawde5829
    @aayushigawde5829 2 роки тому

    Please recast the modern girl in ishq vishq pyaar vyaar

  • @nayjashah7368
    @nayjashah7368 2 роки тому

    What I like about this isn’t the Vamp character being completely moralized because a lot of this is still questionable, it’s the fact that the MC is finally realistic with actual flaws and not the perfect Mary Sue which Bollywood feeds off of and makes no effort to change. The female lead actually had a prominent role in the story other than just smiling and dancing for 3 hours.

    • @Abhimanyu_Gupta_05
      @Abhimanyu_Gupta_05 2 роки тому

      When you watch Kabir Singh, you can sympathize and see why Kabir Singh is a bad boy because of his flaws. Why the swaddle never critized Kabir Singh, because they think it's cool.

    • @Abhimanyu_Gupta_05
      @Abhimanyu_Gupta_05 Рік тому

      @minni5503 give me examples of 3 or 4 toxic female characters in films

  • @gurubhai8419
    @gurubhai8419 2 роки тому

    So, Who is a BAD WOMAN ?

    • @Abhimanyu_Gupta_05
      @Abhimanyu_Gupta_05 2 роки тому

      According to this channel, the bad girl is the modest girl with traditional moral values

  • @hazelpastinionie
    @hazelpastinionie 3 роки тому +3

    I'm thrilled to know that the channel like you is exist in India.

  • @chandrakalanilgar5478
    @chandrakalanilgar5478 3 роки тому

    Nice

  • @ashutoshsingh3389
    @ashutoshsingh3389 3 роки тому +6

    Bollywood khaali faaltu movies banata hai ... Sirf whi ghatiya Pyaar wagera... South Indian movies jyada acche Hain ♥️♥️💕

    • @CancerDepartmentFeminismWing
      @CancerDepartmentFeminismWing 3 роки тому +1

      Indian regional movies are better than rotten bollywood which doesn't have new ideas.
      Even Korean movies, dramas are better than Bollypoop.

    • @ashutoshsingh3389
      @ashutoshsingh3389 3 роки тому

      @yiippeee Rajput 😅 yeh bhi Sach Hain

    • @dialga7777
      @dialga7777 3 роки тому +2

      Humein kya, hum toh movies hi nahi dekhte😌

    • @Coolguy-or8ex
      @Coolguy-or8ex 3 роки тому +2

      Bollywood is trash only fools watch Bollywood

  • @justaninfiredperson
    @justaninfiredperson 2 роки тому

    There is serious deficiency of badass and sassy womens in Bollywood

    • @Abhimanyu_Gupta_05
      @Abhimanyu_Gupta_05 2 роки тому

      What about in South movies?

    • @justaninfiredperson
      @justaninfiredperson 2 роки тому

      @@Abhimanyu_Gupta_05 i haven't watched many. But the once I accidentally watched didnt had much of bold opinionated female leads.

    • @Abhimanyu_Gupta_05
      @Abhimanyu_Gupta_05 2 роки тому

      @@justaninfiredperson watch Pushpa with english subtitles

  • @rajmodi3107
    @rajmodi3107 3 роки тому

    👍🏼

  • @snehaghosh4132
    @snehaghosh4132 3 роки тому +2

    Now I wanna watch ISHQIYA badly😍

  • @funstories321
    @funstories321 Рік тому

    Meine dekhi nahi thi... 😭

  • @Adiishresthaaa
    @Adiishresthaaa 2 роки тому

    Breaking the bad women stereotypes but have you met KAMOLIKA yet,
    Oh there are a lot of mistake in this video.. ...

    • @Abhimanyu_Gupta_05
      @Abhimanyu_Gupta_05 2 роки тому

      They want us to sympathize with female villains, they don't want us to hate female villains.

  • @dumaba
    @dumaba 3 роки тому

    Would love to see more such character analysis videos! Great work!

  • @dayadarwazatoddo5921
    @dayadarwazatoddo5921 3 роки тому +1

    Old movies were correct in their potrayal

    • @dialga7777
      @dialga7777 3 роки тому

      🌝
      I see, what you did there

  • @mahamudulhassanrafirafi1159
    @mahamudulhassanrafirafi1159 3 роки тому +2

    I can't understand how can this personality be moral. I don't see any morality in this carectur. Seducing others to get what she wants is like giving money to criminals to attempt a crime and they are supporting this.

    • @sampreeth6575
      @sampreeth6575 2 роки тому

      wait.... if sex is what she wants why cant she have it???

    • @mahamudulhassanrafirafi1159
      @mahamudulhassanrafirafi1159 2 роки тому

      @@sampreeth6575 this carectur was not asking for sex. And if you want sex than just get married.

    • @sampreeth6575
      @sampreeth6575 2 роки тому +1

      @@mahamudulhassanrafirafi1159 no.... what if i dont???

    • @mahamudulhassanrafirafi1159
      @mahamudulhassanrafirafi1159 2 роки тому

      @@sampreeth6575 get a psychiatrist then.

    • @sampreeth6575
      @sampreeth6575 2 роки тому +1

      @@mahamudulhassanrafirafi1159 why?? Whats wrong if someone wants to do it before marriage??

  • @coolish3481
    @coolish3481 3 роки тому +1

    JO PAISE KAMATI H KHUD KE LIYE JO BACHE NI KRNA CHAHTI JO JEANS TOP PEHENTI H JO DRINK YA SMOKE KRTI H JISKE LADKE DOST H VOHI VILLAIN HOTE H MOVIE MEIN ADHIKTAR

    • @neetugupta9987
      @neetugupta9987 3 роки тому +6

      @Akash Mishra, MGTOW just shup up stop spamming

  • @CancerDepartmentFeminismWing
    @CancerDepartmentFeminismWing 3 роки тому +11

    NO MARRIAGE = NO ALIMONY 😘

    • @nurjahanbegam999
      @nurjahanbegam999 3 роки тому +2

      True

    • @dialga7777
      @dialga7777 3 роки тому +4

      And many more benefits as well

    • @ManonLucas14
      @ManonLucas14 3 роки тому +3

      No marriage= No small d*ck

    • @dialga7777
      @dialga7777 3 роки тому +4

      @@ManonLucas14 Aur yeh tumhi log hote ho jo men ko slut shaming aur body shaming par accuse karte ho🤷apna comment dekho mashallah!

    • @factshouse3690
      @factshouse3690 3 роки тому +7

      @@dialga7777 Yehi feminism hai.
      Agar ladki vamp hai toh usko shame nahi karna chahiye.
      Agar koi ladka fookboi hai toh usko ye log shame karte hai.
      Ladki ko body shame nahi karna bolke yeh khud ladko ko body shame karte hai.
      Feminism was never about equality.
      If it was about equality, most boys/men would have fully supported it.
      It's all about oppressing men.