Thanks for watching everyone! I wanted to pin a comment here to answer some FAQs. - Yes, Alchemy is technically possible in a very limited capacity. Without being able to level up, I could only make potions using 2 ingredients with the same first property and no other overlapping properties. This is a short list and would have taken much longer to acquire than normal since looking down was fairly difficult. For the sake of what was already an hour long video, it was much quicker to just say that it effectively wasn't possible, although we did discuss this possibility in stream. I never did craft any though, and just opted to sell all ingredients for a tiny amount of extra gold to buy potions with. - I picked an Argonian because I believed that Histskin to face-tank for Faendal would be more impactful in the long run than any of the other racial benefits/perks such as ancestors wrath as a dark elf or (maybe) an easier time at the Thalmor embassy as a high elf. In hindsight, I do not regret that decision in the slightest. - I was a bit unclear on the whole Ralof/Hadvar thing in the video. With Ralof, in the first room you need to either be able to open the door, or loot the body to continue. If you can do neither, he just repeatedly tells you to grab the gear off of the fallen soldier. - I was also unclear on why I couldn't use the quest menu. While you can hit J to open it, and then easily select a quest, you then can no longer reload old saves. There is no keyboard key that switches between the different menu tabs (I tried them all, promise). There is also no key that directly opens the settings tab, so once you leave it to the stats or quest menus, you can never go back and therefore I can't reload if something goes wrong. I unintentionally opened the quest menu a lot in this run and had to plug in the mouse, change tabs, then reload an earlier save from before I accidently opened the quest menu (or used the mouse) every singe time. - I did have a fallback plan to get the Dremora merchant from the Dragonborn DLC. It is entirely possible to navigate that section of apocrypha in order to get the power without moving the camera (although very difficult), but accepting it takes a mouse click on the OK button. There ended up being no part of the game where that one click would have removed the need for a mouse, so I opted not to get it. I could find no other summonable companions that would need the mouse less. - No one has asked this here yet, but the dungeon that contains the Visage of Mzund fell into a similar category. I couldn't find a way through without mouse clicks (or a lot more clipping) and it ended up being unnecessary anyway. - And finally, yes, "Skyrim With Only a Keyboard" would be a more accurate name for this vid, but "Without a Mouse" just sounded better to me. I recognize wording it this way does not rule out the use of my DDR dance pad, but I promise I didn't use it for this one.
As someone who struggles to use computer mice due to my disability, I appreciate you making an entire video showcasing the reasons why I don't play games on PC.
Alchemy should be possible, though very difficult. The box you can't click Okay on is just telling about newly learned effects of ingredients. You can learn the first effect of an ingredient by eating it. So if you find some ingredients that can be combined using only their first effects without unlocking other effects on them, you should be able to eat them to learn those ingredients, then craft some potions. That would be incredibly limited, but it should be possible.
@Kahadi that is totally correct and we looked into it on stream and found it would be so limited to not be worth the time investment over just buying potions. I ultimately would have to buy one of the two ingredients used in most cases anyway. I couldn't even use blue mountain flower/wheat for a healing potion because they both also have fortify health as a property in addition to restore health.
I'm not of the opinion that doing something the game absolutely forces you to do invalidates a challenge run, so long as every other potential option is explored first. Especially given how much work goes into finding those other options everywhere else. Great run!
i don't think the challenge was completed 100% legit because of the one time you had to use the mouse but i don't care. it was a tremendous amount of patience and ingenuity that went into the attempt. damn fine video as always.
55:04 Gotta love how Bethesda will patch out useful glitches like using the waterfall to skip Skuldafn, but not any of the game breaking glitches or incorrectly programmed game mechanics or followers.
Dude! This is such a great video! As far as I'm concerned you completed the challenge, although I do think it's possible to skip the "OK" box after Mirmulnir by going into the thalmor embassy early with a bucket! Ymfah at least skipped it in his Fewest-Shout video so it might be possible! Also, maybe the Dremora merchant from that one black book could help you get through Skuldafn or even using it to skip Skuldafn with whirlwind sprint + netch jelly to catapult yourself into the portal, provided you can get it of course! The strategies you pulled were all great though, 10/10 video! Edit: also, maybe you could use the Dunmer's racial ability Ancestor's Wrath to break cobwebs/kill enemies!
@daviddavidsson6243 @daviddavidsson6243 Typically in challenge runs i try my best to complete quests in the intended order, so I dodnt want to do a huge sequence break to try to skip one text box. See the pinned comment for why I couldn't use dremora merchant and why I chose argonian. Also from my cloak spell vid I know that ancestors wrath doesn't interact with the environment in any circumstance.
You definitely get a pass for needing to use a mouse for that silly dialogue box. I mean, seriously why don't they let you press enter or E to clear it? Ending the run there would have been sad. The fact you "broke the rule" that single time meant we all got to witness this incredible feat
@bluedragon2997 from my research the only things you can summon that can talk to you end up requiring mouse clicks. I was planning on getting the dremora merchant from Dragonborn but you have to click OK to get the power.
In the sea of Skyrim content you managed to catch my eye and I’m very happy you did. Excellent video, you have a great story comedy balance. Keep it up!
I do like these types of video but i dropped what i was watching to give this a watch because we had a family dog called magoo so youre getting a sub for that alone.
I can’t believe I’m not the only one who has had this idea. There’s not a single original bone in my body. My thoughts and ideas are just carbon copies delivered to me and several thousand others.
If you played a High Elf you could have infiltrated the Thalmor Embassy with Hooded Thalmor Robes and a high speech skill, but that would've been a pain to grind.
You can't change quest with only keyboard?? I could swear I do it all the time. WS to scroll up and down and AD to navigate 'layers', like entering misc. list and then E to set it active or deactivate. Am I hallucinating or what 0-o.
@filipwarpechowski6681 I should have been more specific, you can't change menu tabs with only keyboard. So if I open the quest menu to change quests then I can't get back to the settings menu in the event I need to re-load a save, which i needed to do often.
@garethleahy412 I was a dark elf in my last challenge, so I already was aware that Ancestors Wrath doesn't interact with the environment (including the webs). The damage is super low too, so since I was going to have a follower anyway I figured tanking as an argonian would save time in the long run.
Heya! been binge watching your vids and love all the challenge runs so far, I just have a very off topic question, what music did you use at 21:41 ? I swear i've heard it before but can't find it and it's killing me and my friend for the past 10 minutes
That's the music from pyrite town in Pokémon XD Gale of Darkness. I can't remember for sure if Collisseum uses the same theme for that area or not, so it might be from both, but I've played Gale of Darkness way more.
I got to ask (since i never watched your stream): did you know that in bleak falls in the chamber with Draugr Lord (forgive me if i butchered it's name, i haven't played in a while) there are 2 more chests? One behind shout wall (right side of the chamber), and one to the left of the staircase you use to get out after killing the Draugr. The one leading to the stone wall you wall-clipped through.
Edit: This information is wrong! He can't level up. Oops! You COULD technically do Alchemy if you EXCLUSIVELY used potion ingredients with ONLY one effect in common. Then you level up Alchemy enough to take the Experimenter perks, and learn more ingredients by eating them from your inventory, unlocking more potion combinations (such as the Wheat/Blue Mountain Flower we all love so much.) The enchanting is still a wash, though Can't help you there.
@Tinkatube I had the same thought when playing. There are technically a couple of potions that are made from ingredients with only the first property in common that could have been used, but none of them would have been remotely worth the effort. Especially when looking down to harvest ingredients already takes 10 times longer than normal. So any ingredients I got I just sold to buy healing potions.
@@MAGOOdog Smart strategy! If you could level it would've been maybe worth the power grind (especially if the Resto Loop wouldn't be banned) but since you couldn't level to actually IMPROVE your odds, the only ingredient worth keeping would've been like, Hawk Feathers for their natural Cure Disease.
@TUXmint Do you have SkyUI installed? I know some in my chat said it gave you the option, but vanilla skyrim there wasn't a single button on my keyboard that did. I systematically hit every key. If you find that you can on your game, I'd be interested to hear what key did it
"Can you beat Skyrim without a mouse?" Yes. Use a controller. "Can you beat Skyrim with only a keyboard and the default mappings?" I don't think so? In the final fight, Alduin is invincible while flying, so you'd have to find a way to aim Dragonrend at him to bring him down. Even then, the player needs to deal the final blow. Without your mouse, you can't attack, with the exception of Powers that deal damage. Unless you're a Dark Elf, that means only Shouts. Unrelenting Force does, apparently, deal damage, so it might work, but I hoghly doubt it. Which means the only option would be to get something like Fire Breath. You can try just using Unrelenting Force, but if that failed to count, you'd either need to have gotten something else anyway, or you'd need to load a save to go back and get a Shout that properly deals damage. It would be funny if Unrelenting Force was able to finish Alduin off though. I still think the biggest issue is Dragonrend to even be able to deal damage to him though.
Not to be that guy, but actually. Your companions will follow you anywhere in the dungeons, I was doing a battle mage playthrough awhile back. Couldn't beat this area because there wasn't enough spots to hide at or really be safe at to wait forever for my companion to kill the enemies one hit at a time before getting knocked back down. I waited I think 11 in game days, and that mercenary from riften bar finally showed up. I'm pretty sure they have to path from where you left them, out and around on a path to the front of the dungeon. Then go through it to you the intended route (and possibly fighting is counted in this calculation somehow? I didn't have to do this much and didn't really pay attention during the wait spams) to show up and be like "hey hi hello, I'm so lonely I've traveled for so long alone. Let me be all up inside your camera". I wonder if saving and loading has any effect on this situation though, or if you gave a follower armor so they could survive a shout and hope they clip out of bounds to spawn near you or back in the dungeon hopefully not behind any doors. I know barbas or whatever that daedric dog's name is, will follow you into more places than a normal follower. But I don't remember if it talks
Thanks for watching everyone! I wanted to pin a comment here to answer some FAQs.
- Yes, Alchemy is technically possible in a very limited capacity. Without being able to level up, I could only make potions using 2 ingredients with the same first property and no other overlapping properties. This is a short list and would have taken much longer to acquire than normal since looking down was fairly difficult. For the sake of what was already an hour long video, it was much quicker to just say that it effectively wasn't possible, although we did discuss this possibility in stream. I never did craft any though, and just opted to sell all ingredients for a tiny amount of extra gold to buy potions with.
- I picked an Argonian because I believed that Histskin to face-tank for Faendal would be more impactful in the long run than any of the other racial benefits/perks such as ancestors wrath as a dark elf or (maybe) an easier time at the Thalmor embassy as a high elf. In hindsight, I do not regret that decision in the slightest.
- I was a bit unclear on the whole Ralof/Hadvar thing in the video. With Ralof, in the first room you need to either be able to open the door, or loot the body to continue. If you can do neither, he just repeatedly tells you to grab the gear off of the fallen soldier.
- I was also unclear on why I couldn't use the quest menu. While you can hit J to open it, and then easily select a quest, you then can no longer reload old saves. There is no keyboard key that switches between the different menu tabs (I tried them all, promise). There is also no key that directly opens the settings tab, so once you leave it to the stats or quest menus, you can never go back and therefore I can't reload if something goes wrong. I unintentionally opened the quest menu a lot in this run and had to plug in the mouse, change tabs, then reload an earlier save from before I accidently opened the quest menu (or used the mouse) every singe time.
- I did have a fallback plan to get the Dremora merchant from the Dragonborn DLC. It is entirely possible to navigate that section of apocrypha in order to get the power without moving the camera (although very difficult), but accepting it takes a mouse click on the OK button. There ended up being no part of the game where that one click would have removed the need for a mouse, so I opted not to get it. I could find no other summonable companions that would need the mouse less.
- No one has asked this here yet, but the dungeon that contains the Visage of Mzund fell into a similar category. I couldn't find a way through without mouse clicks (or a lot more clipping) and it ended up being unnecessary anyway.
- And finally, yes, "Skyrim With Only a Keyboard" would be a more accurate name for this vid, but "Without a Mouse" just sounded better to me. I recognize wording it this way does not rule out the use of my DDR dance pad, but I promise I didn't use it for this one.
Playing skyrim with a DDR pad sounds chaotic and interesting 😂
did u try using F9 to load your quicksaves or was it the hard saves u needed to load more?
@weasel2939 I needed access to the hard saves. Often times the quick loads wouldn't even fix the menu.
Looks-only-forward is a pretty good argonian name not gonna lie
It sounds like he's just really optimistic
reminds me of follows-chalk
I love the greaser aesthetic the mouse adds
@@zacharyheine4177 not what I was going for, but now that you say so...I can see it lol
Something about that intro gave me mitten squad vibes and I mean that as the utmost compliment
As someone who struggles to use computer mice due to my disability, I appreciate you making an entire video showcasing the reasons why I don't play games on PC.
@@ostermad a lot of games do have controller support which makes games far easier, of course depending on what your disability is
Alchemy should be possible, though very difficult. The box you can't click Okay on is just telling about newly learned effects of ingredients. You can learn the first effect of an ingredient by eating it. So if you find some ingredients that can be combined using only their first effects without unlocking other effects on them, you should be able to eat them to learn those ingredients, then craft some potions.
That would be incredibly limited, but it should be possible.
@Kahadi that is totally correct and we looked into it on stream and found it would be so limited to not be worth the time investment over just buying potions.
I ultimately would have to buy one of the two ingredients used in most cases anyway. I couldn't even use blue mountain flower/wheat for a healing potion because they both also have fortify health as a property in addition to restore health.
@Kahadi I initially recorded a blurb about it for the video but it took so long to explain I just cut it lol.
I voted, because Magoo was so gracious to put together this run after he got his mouse stolen by the Mickey Bandit.
The mouse looked like a pompadour. You rocked it!
I'm not of the opinion that doing something the game absolutely forces you to do invalidates a challenge run, so long as every other potential option is explored first. Especially given how much work goes into finding those other options everywhere else. Great run!
Underrated UA-camr
i don't think the challenge was completed 100% legit because of the one time you had to use the mouse but i don't care. it was a tremendous amount of patience and ingenuity that went into the attempt. damn fine video as always.
You could say this speedrun was straightforward
55:04 Gotta love how Bethesda will patch out useful glitches like using the waterfall to skip Skuldafn, but not any of the game breaking glitches or incorrectly programmed game mechanics or followers.
Dude! This is such a great video! As far as I'm concerned you completed the challenge, although I do think it's possible to skip the "OK" box after Mirmulnir by going into the thalmor embassy early with a bucket! Ymfah at least skipped it in his Fewest-Shout video so it might be possible! Also, maybe the Dremora merchant from that one black book could help you get through Skuldafn or even using it to skip Skuldafn with whirlwind sprint + netch jelly to catapult yourself into the portal, provided you can get it of course! The strategies you pulled were all great though, 10/10 video!
Edit: also, maybe you could use the Dunmer's racial ability Ancestor's Wrath to break cobwebs/kill enemies!
@daviddavidsson6243 @daviddavidsson6243 Typically in challenge runs i try my best to complete quests in the intended order, so I dodnt want to do a huge sequence break to try to skip one text box.
See the pinned comment for why I couldn't use dremora merchant and why I chose argonian. Also from my cloak spell vid I know that ancestors wrath doesn't interact with the environment in any circumstance.
@ I see, I’ll read it! This was the first video I watched from you!
Honestly Magoo why didn't u use a controller 🤓
came down to comment the same thing 🤓
@femHistorian If only I had thought of that! Not sure why no one in chat mentioned it during stream 🤦♂️
@@MAGOOdogwell I can tell you, it's because they like watching you suffer..
You definitely get a pass for needing to use a mouse for that silly dialogue box. I mean, seriously why don't they let you press enter or E to clear it? Ending the run there would have been sad. The fact you "broke the rule" that single time meant we all got to witness this incredible feat
Amazing work on the video, what a frustrating challenge which we all love so much
Every time you use Dark Cloud music it activates me like a sleeper agent
This is very entertaining, I hope this gets at least a million views.
3:44 “With the list of dissappointments ever growing”
*game shows Fondle*
I see what you did there and I am all for it.
Glad to have found this channel! You have the joov/jabo video format and it works!
Voted. All your videos so far have been super entertaining - and some, like this one, a bit terrifying.
@@timecage thank you for your vote!
Hell yeah, new Magoo video! Always a blast, and this is a particularly fun challenge to watch!
I feel like this is just Micheal Jackson except he is physically incapable of walking and has to moonwalk 24/7
Summon something you can talk too man, deadra or something peaceful
@bluedragon2997 from my research the only things you can summon that can talk to you end up requiring mouse clicks. I was planning on getting the dremora merchant from Dragonborn but you have to click OK to get the power.
@@MAGOOdog shittt rip
In the sea of Skyrim content you managed to catch my eye and I’m very happy you did. Excellent video, you have a great story comedy balance. Keep it up!
I do like these types of video but i dropped what i was watching to give this a watch because we had a family dog called magoo so youre getting a sub for that alone.
Great vid McGoo, as always! Next up: Beating Skyrim without installing Skyrim.
Heck yeah. I caught part of a stream for this one. Love your stuff so much !!!!!
Awesome video man
Great video, hopefully more people will discover this soon.
what a great video, I love your humour and how you persevered to make everything work! To many more great challenges ahead!
Thats 17 hours of your life you will never get back 😂
But still, this was enjoyable to watch
I can’t believe I’m not the only one who has had this idea. There’s not a single original bone in my body. My thoughts and ideas are just carbon copies delivered to me and several thousand others.
Great vid! It just popped up on my recommended :)
If you played a High Elf you could have infiltrated the Thalmor Embassy with Hooded Thalmor Robes and a high speech skill, but that would've been a pain to grind.
You can't change quest with only keyboard?? I could swear I do it all the time. WS to scroll up and down and AD to navigate 'layers', like entering misc. list and then E to set it active or deactivate. Am I hallucinating or what 0-o.
@filipwarpechowski6681 I should have been more specific, you can't change menu tabs with only keyboard. So if I open the quest menu to change quests then I can't get back to the settings menu in the event I need to re-load a save, which i needed to do often.
I love that Bethesda never took out the platter glitch, used to glitch out of whiterun to get the chest under the skyforge
Did you ever consider being a dark elf? Ancestor's wrath would be an early damage dealer and might have been able to deal with the spider web.
@garethleahy412 I was a dark elf in my last challenge, so I already was aware that Ancestors Wrath doesn't interact with the environment (including the webs). The damage is super low too, so since I was going to have a follower anyway I figured tanking as an argonian would save time in the long run.
@@MAGOOdog Makes sense
I think the ok count as clicking but not using the mouse in the game. You should be able to have pressed something to get through the ok screens
🥔Fire video as always man🥔
That's a win in my book!
This sounds like a fun level of hell that will feel like a Commodore 64.
Your videos are fckin awesome
Great edit Magoo! Sorry I have been absent!
@TheHetheren hey no worries! Life is busy! Glad you enjoyed the video!!!
In reference to the dilemma mentioned at the end there...
Y'know the "One Free Bullet" Achievement in HL2E1? Yeah. That. 👍
Bro you are really good
🥔Let's go new video🥔
I love the spyro music
Heya! been binge watching your vids and love all the challenge runs so far, I just have a very off topic question, what music did you use at 21:41 ? I swear i've heard it before but can't find it and it's killing me and my friend for the past 10 minutes
That's the music from pyrite town in Pokémon XD Gale of Darkness. I can't remember for sure if Collisseum uses the same theme for that area or not, so it might be from both, but I've played Gale of Darkness way more.
Is your mouse a Logitech G600?
What next? Beating Skyrim by actually doing NOTHING?
That was a wild ride
Holy shut you did it!!!!!
I got to ask (since i never watched your stream): did you know that in bleak falls in the chamber with Draugr Lord (forgive me if i butchered it's name, i haven't played in a while) there are 2 more chests? One behind shout wall (right side of the chamber), and one to the left of the staircase you use to get out after killing the Draugr. The one leading to the stone wall you wall-clipped through.
Shouldn't you be able to craft potions, if you don't discover new effects, though?
Insane run!
Edit: This information is wrong! He can't level up. Oops!
You COULD technically do Alchemy if you EXCLUSIVELY used potion ingredients with ONLY one effect in common. Then you level up Alchemy enough to take the Experimenter perks, and learn more ingredients by eating them from your inventory, unlocking more potion combinations (such as the Wheat/Blue Mountain Flower we all love so much.)
The enchanting is still a wash, though Can't help you there.
@Tinkatube I had the same thought when playing. There are technically a couple of potions that are made from ingredients with only the first property in common that could have been used, but none of them would have been remotely worth the effort. Especially when looking down to harvest ingredients already takes 10 times longer than normal.
So any ingredients I got I just sold to buy healing potions.
@@MAGOOdog Smart strategy! If you could level it would've been maybe worth the power grind (especially if the Resto Loop wouldn't be banned) but since you couldn't level to actually IMPROVE your odds, the only ingredient worth keeping would've been like, Hawk Feathers for their natural Cure Disease.
platter works best. more surface area clipping so its a larger window.
Liked and subscribed ✌️
Generic comment for the algorithm.
19:09 genuinely curious on how you looked down there. Jumping while talking to fondle?
Yep! Looking down is fairly easy, as jump talking works. Looking up is much harder, since talk is changed to pickpocket.
I'm 75% sure you can tab through the alternatives in any Skyrim menu.
@TUXmint Do you have SkyUI installed? I know some in my chat said it gave you the option, but vanilla skyrim there wasn't a single button on my keyboard that did. I systematically hit every key. If you find that you can on your game, I'd be interested to hear what key did it
@@MAGOOdog It's Probably a part of SkyUI then. Can't stand not using it.
You did beat skyrim without using the mouse however as to the question can you beat Skyrim without using a mouse? the answer is no it’s impossible.
Ralof can open all helgen keep doors too btw
@@rus2371 he won't do it until you loot the guard, which you can't look down at. I tried him first when I had this idea.
I actually use alt for sprint, feels comfortable for my thumb to hit it idk am I not normal
What happened at 12:06?
Jar Jar 😁
"Can you beat Skyrim without a mouse?"
Yes. Use a controller.
"Can you beat Skyrim with only a keyboard and the default mappings?"
I don't think so? In the final fight, Alduin is invincible while flying, so you'd have to find a way to aim Dragonrend at him to bring him down. Even then, the player needs to deal the final blow. Without your mouse, you can't attack, with the exception of Powers that deal damage. Unless you're a Dark Elf, that means only Shouts. Unrelenting Force does, apparently, deal damage, so it might work, but I hoghly doubt it. Which means the only option would be to get something like Fire Breath. You can try just using Unrelenting Force, but if that failed to count, you'd either need to have gotten something else anyway, or you'd need to load a save to go back and get a Shout that properly deals damage. It would be funny if Unrelenting Force was able to finish Alduin off though. I still think the biggest issue is Dragonrend to even be able to deal damage to him though.
@@Kahadi Are you just making predictions before watching? Everything mentioned in this comment is covered in the video.
Your mouse kinda looks like a pompodore
I used a controller :p
"No one ever talked about Y/N!"
Have this man never played San Andreas?
Can you beat skyrim without a mouse? *proceeds to use controller*
Not to be that guy, but actually. Your companions will follow you anywhere in the dungeons, I was doing a battle mage playthrough awhile back. Couldn't beat this area because there wasn't enough spots to hide at or really be safe at to wait forever for my companion to kill the enemies one hit at a time before getting knocked back down. I waited I think 11 in game days, and that mercenary from riften bar finally showed up. I'm pretty sure they have to path from where you left them, out and around on a path to the front of the dungeon. Then go through it to you the intended route (and possibly fighting is counted in this calculation somehow? I didn't have to do this much and didn't really pay attention during the wait spams) to show up and be like "hey hi hello, I'm so lonely I've traveled for so long alone. Let me be all up inside your camera". I wonder if saving and loading has any effect on this situation though, or if you gave a follower armor so they could survive a shout and hope they clip out of bounds to spawn near you or back in the dungeon hopefully not behind any doors. I know barbas or whatever that daedric dog's name is, will follow you into more places than a normal follower. But I don't remember if it talks
I still don't fully understand why you can't you a control to act as your mouse
Bruh my keyboard has a mouse on it
Mans probably used his mouse to open Skyrim. Run was invalid from the start
Use a controller silly 🤓