What we see in intellectuals like Noam. It is easy to read Noam as a creature. Noam lays it all out with not his grand puzzle. We just seen all the missing pieces. Noam and Marx act superior, smart material linguistics that mean nothing. It is all internal constructed nonsense of made up linguistics. Nothing applies to the real world nor has it been applied in reality! All the fantasies of Marx and Noam. Are monuments to failure. That is are main problem with intellectuals! It is great to have big creative fun wild thinking . However, if you can not get it to work in the real world after 175 years. Better stop thinking and start testing on a small scale then improve on working applications. Your super big untested big ideas just end up killing people. Like this video points out. ua-cam.com/video/UnkMA0l7Af8/v-deo.html Noam's base-line soul and his books are based on big envy, anger and using big violence to obtain his untested contentment. Just like Marx. That is very easy to see. He covers it up with overly complex meaningless linguistics. None of his words are tested in reality. Call him on that fact and he will fall back into a corner. He is just a poet. Dreamers love mad poets. I am an engineer. I am not great just one of millions in the world. If you want to make a bridge. Most of the time you base your idea on past bridges that worked. You refine the design based on geological tests. Wind tests, material testing, Finite Element Analysis testing. Live load testing, in-process construction testing ect. ect. Most engineers do not consider them self's intellectuals. nor do they like to be called intellectuals are all theory. An engineer is happy when he see's the mile long bridge across a bay transporting millions of cars and truck for many many years in safety. The Workers that build the bridge get the satisfaction of knowing they built that dang thing. These underlying applied realities to make something work do not exist in the minds of Noam, Marxists or most intellectuals.
@@Jarjarjar21 I agree... I think once upon a time he would've reacted to that in a negative light, i.e. don't revere me... now he sees it as "there's a new generation that are going to challenge the status quo"
Aside form politics, can anyone tell me why is Chomsky so admired? I doubt that his followers understand his work on linguistics, so I suspect the admiration comes from Chomsky's political stance.
@@samerdrich5579 he's like a Bernie Sanders of the intellectual world, he's been morally consistent and had the gall to stick it out for 90 years, the man has been consistently calling out atrocious and inhumane foreign policy decisions since forever. He's a reliable and trustworthy point of information, why wouldn't people be appreciative of him?
@@doreekaplan2589 oh boy, I commented that 8 years ago, so much has changed since than, so much… new information has emerged, and I can see patterns now much better
Chomsky is an intellectual activist, considering and exploring issues before forming an opinion then acting on them - a great example. He will be one of the few who are respected far into the future when people look back.
He merely does what most of us were told in school we should do, in terms of thinking and laying out an argument. We simply refuse to have open and honest discussions. It's not really intelligence that's lacking.
He’s an idiot with the same conclusion to every equation. America bad. It’s like Trump. Everything Trump does the answer is Orange Man bad. Trump sends troops to Syria, Orange man bad. Trump brings troops home from Syria, Orange Man bad. Well Chomsky which one is it? Maybe Chomsky should think a little deeper. Krauss isn’t much better. Krauss tells us that the universe came from nothing. Krauss couldn’t tell us where life comes from. He couldn’t create a single protein let alone a complete cell. And then he gets political which makes him a blithering idiot. Ditto with God.
But most importantly, also contributes with own qualified arguments, so that it becomes a real live dialogue. Just reading loud questions is not good interviewing.
As someone who loves learning and the pursuit of knowledge, and who has an appreciation of critical thinking, I highly value Chomsky's take on deflating your ability to orate efficaciously in order that people value what you say, and not just how you say it. At the same time, your burden is passing along the idea of critical thinking. And if the benefactor doesnt already possess, then you have to be oratorically persuasive. It like the epitome of irony. I love the whole landscape painted by these two artists, and crave more of it.
Could you imagine seeing him sitting on a bench and feeding pigeons? You'd sit down, say one thing, and realize very quickly that this man is an absolute genius. Quite a surprise but a welcome one.
The opening introduction brought tears to my eyes. I've been following Noam for decades and he never disappoints even if the subject matter may be disturbing. Very well worth the extra time. ❤
Excellent Discussion between Professors Noam Chomsky and Lawrence Krauss, kindred spirits in the search for truth and liberty in a world that is always at a critical crossroads between enlightenment, creativity and peace to irrationality, destruction and aggression. It is really great to see the two of these great men in discussion about everything from human intelligence, social structures to conflict and aggression and the development of our civilization both technologically and morally and the responsibility of intellectuals to seek the truth and expose lies no matter what authorities say.
Ray N Today is of course Holocaust remembrance day. Critics like Keith Harman Snow critique what he calls the Holocaust Industry; and the profits being made off of countless heinous murders. Contrast that with zero collective memory in the West about the murder of Cambodians by the Khmer Rouge. First hand accounts such as this put into acute contrast the wildly differing results of mass genocide on a population years later. Needless to say both are disturbing.
I am an admitted Chomskyite! Many years of study, observation and deep thought are always evident when he speaks! We need him around in this day and age, especially! 🙏❤️✌️🌎🌞🌻🦋🎶🎼🌈❤️🙏
What we see in intellectuals like Noam. It is easy to read Noam as a creature. Noam lays it all out with not his grand puzzle. We just seen all the missing pieces. Noam and Marx act superior, smart material linguistics that mean nothing. It is all internal constructed nonsense of made up linguistics. Nothing applies to the real world nor has it been applied in reality! All the fantasies of Marx and Noam. Are monuments to failure. That is are main problem with intellectuals! It is great to have big creative fun wild thinking . However, if you can not get it to work in the real world after 175 years. Better stop thinking and start testing on a small scale then improve on working applications. Your super big untested big ideas just end up killing people. Like this video points out. ua-cam.com/video/UnkMA0l7Af8/v-deo.html Noam's base-line soul and his books are based on big envy, anger and using big violence to obtain his untested contentment. Just like Marx. That is very easy to see. He covers it up with overly complex meaningless linguistics. None of his words are tested in reality. Call him on that fact and he will fall back into a corner. He is just a poet. Dreamers love mad poets. I am an engineer. I am not great just one of millions in the world. If you want to make a bridge. Most of the time you base your idea on past bridges that worked. You refine the design based on geological tests. Wind tests, material testing, Finite Element Analysis testing. Live load testing, in-process construction testing ect. ect. Most engineers do not consider them self's intellectuals. nor do they like to be called intellectuals are all theory. An engineer is happy when he see's the mile long bridge across a bay transporting millions of cars and truck for many many years in safety. The Workers that build the bridge get the satisfaction of knowing they built that dang thing. These underlying applied realities to make something work do not exist in the minds of Noam, Marxists or most intellectuals.
This was an excellent interview which I have share in every possible place I can post awareness. Thank you Noam Chomsky and Lawrence Krauss
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Aside form politics, can anyone tell me why is Chomsky so admired? I doubt that his followers understand his work on linguistics, so I suspect the admiration comes from Chomsky's political stance.
@@samerdrich5579 Not just his stance(s). John Kerry criticized Bush's war. Heck, Donald Trump used the mass-rejection, late arriving, of Bush's war, to attack Jeb so he couldn't win on the coattails of his younger brother. Chomsky provides analysis, mostly factual, about US and Western violent interventions, by so called liberal intellectuals, and covert ops that became known.
My respect for L.Krauss skyrocketed.Brave man very brave and exactly what sort of people this age of humans needs,hopefully more of the bright people will speak up !not against america against the greed against injustice for all our sake
@@dreamingrightnow1174 he loves to come across as a "Naughty boy" Krauss is a terrible nontalent - a disgrace to his field , and a "Assgrabber" - with a long lineup of young female students he just couldnt help himself from grabbing and being a total sexist jerkoff , who believe AYNYONE find his craterface and plumb style, attracting,-
Apo Galiev It’s a load of crap. This book isn’t worth the media it’s propagated on. No one should waste their time even considering looking into it at all. Pure nonsense and dribble. Only the soft-minded could possibly take it seriously.
At this point, I don't know what is to come. But the intoduction to Noam Chomsky by Krauss is a great start. Thank you all involved in making this available here.
massive dissapointment with the sound for the first 45 minutes... I mean seriously, on THIS show? Whoever was working the sound should be ashamed professionally.
AsFewFalseThingsAsPossible I think the problem mighta been that they had the levels turned up because Chomsky speaks so softly, would that have caused the feedback?
I might be the universe's biggest nerd, but when I first saw the title of this video and realized it was genuine I just about rolled around on the floor with delight.
No. I hated school and dropped out of college. The rigidity was too much. But I listen to this sort of stuff while I drive, cook, lift weights etc. Sometimes I think I have some form of ADHD
@@Creamy6oodness You might very well. During college, I had to smoke a cigarette each break to slow my brain down to be able to withstand the slow pace of the courses. I learned way more spending time in the library, studying all the books on a matter I could find, solving problems on my own. But that's also where I believe Chomsky makes a mistake. Not everybody is built this way. Most of my fellow students were not interested in doing that huge intellectual effort. They were much more interested in getting knowledge poured into their heads like a liquid. Also, only a few of the professors were able to each me by just watching over my shoulder, telling me that there's another book I should read, or that what I was looking into might be connected to some other field I may want to look into, and just very discreetly guiding me, based on the huge knowledge they themselves had already accumulated, at the same time being humble about it. If we'd rely on the few professors of this kind, and on the few students who are willing and able to learn this way, we'd still be in the middle ages, and modern science would be magic to most people.
I thoroughly enjoyed that discussion. For me, the great joy of such gentle but deep discussion is available to me in my own home - I am at home in my chair but right with them. If I don't grasp a point being put forward I can stop, rewind and re approach. I can stop and think through what is being suggested or observed. How lucky are we, this generation who can observe and participate in so many debates and discussions. Chomsky is growing on me. Of course I am familiar with him but the internet allows us to pursue him throughout his life listening as he casts off pearls and thoughts over his shoulder.
Every time I hear Noam Chomsky speak, I am in awe of his evident intellect. He seems to easily express thoughts and concepts which, though very deep, appear to be obvious once they are spoken.
Will Griffin Anytime you got an old athiest jew circuit speaker like Chomsky spinning yarns about everything under the sun except jewish usury caste system. You got an old jew shekeler...
1:27:32 "It happens because we're supporting it." That statement could not be more correct. Every fault in our society, is due to society, not individuals. Each individual should take personal responsibility, so our systems put in place can function successfully.
Esteban Nemo who do you mean when referring to ASMR? I'm racking my mind to try and work out who it is but my brain fails me, it's probably the lack of sleep and stress of other things causing me to have what I can only describe as a brain fart, thanks.
Too bad about the sound problems at the beginning, they were somewhat distracting. If anyone is wondering, they get finally resolved around 26:50 mark when new microphones are brought in. Other than that, I did enjoy watching this, although it was more of an interview than a dialogue. But I guess in this case that's okay. ;)
Amazing to see these two fine men on a stage together. Chomsky still has his dry wit. I don't recall see him giggle as much before either; endearing. Krauss has the wherewithal to pair with Noam, and challenge someone he has respect for. GREAT POST.
There is not enough that I can say about Noam Chomsky that can trump the plaudits bestowed on him. This video was recently shot at ASU as part of a series hosted and led by Lawrence Krauss, himself not just a noted physicist, but a public intellectual as well. If you believe that there is another way for the world to revolve than the out of control spin set in motion by the current global and economic crisis, then you must avail yourself of this interview, done in two parts, the first of which is linked here. Chomsky is a "public intellectual", a term he deserves. However, he is not your average snooty, ten dollar word upper crust sort, and that is really part of what makes him different, and his thoughts accessible. He does not get enough credit for the manner in which he communicates, the attractiveness of his logic, and the common sense that his opinions reflect. If you are attracted to what he has to say, and you feel as I do about his style of rhetoric, I highly recommend that you encourage others with concerns about the future of the world we live in, to put aside their initial abhorrence of the word intellectual, and their hatred for elitism, and just listen for five minutes to what he has to say. Chomsky's words need to be proliferated far beyond the world of the already converted. He needs to be heard by the masses of people who are the power base on which change can evolve.
I really liked it that Krauss did this discussion. I bet Krauss has many followers who have never heard of Chomsky, so I'm glad he did it. And good that he didn't turned it into an endless discussion about religion.
I'll second your comments on both counts. Krauss, as a "star" of the ASU series, does a great job with his discussion approach to bringing out the ideas of those who sit in the chair next to him on stage. One admonition of course, and that is that he has guests on who he admires so there isn't a sense that you have to brace yourself hard for the antagonistic question that you think may be coming. After all, he's talking to a friend, and that friend has good, solid and meaningful things to say. So it just seems to flow with Krauss's approach. And yes, let us not put that threadbare discussion of religion on the docket. There are plenty of other opportunities to air out the scientists grievances against religion.
George Aponick Christopher Hitchens on Chomsky: '[Chomsky] has now been impeached by his own standards, since scrutiny of the evidence does not bear him out on Serbia or Afghanistan or Iraq. It didn't bear him out on Cambodia either, though he was never a "Holocaust denier" or anything like it. And he has, I think, ceased to be of any use to young people who might pardonably doubt the official story.' 'My quarrel with Chomsky goes back to the Balkan wars of the 1990s, where he more or less openly represented the "Serbian Socialist Party" (actually the national-socialist and expansionist dictatorship of Slobodan Milosevic) as the victim. Many of us are proud of having helped organize to prevent the slaughter and deportation of Europe's oldest and largest and most tolerant Muslim minority, in Bosnia-Herzegovina and in Kosovo. But at that time, when they were real, Chomsky wasn't apparently interested in Muslim grievances. He only became a voice for that when the Taliban and Al Qaeda needed to be represented in their turn as the victims of a "silent genocide" in Afghanistan. Let me put it like this, if a supposed scholar takes the Christian-Orthodox side when it is the aggressor, and then switches to taking the "Muslim" side when Muslims commit mass murder, I think that there is something very nasty going on. And yes, I don't think it is exaggerated to describe that nastiness as "anti-American" when the power that stops and punishes both aggressions is the United States … In some awful way, his regard for the underdog has mutated into support for mad dogs. This is not at all like watching the implosion of an obvious huckster and jerk like Michael Moore, who would have made a perfectly good Brownshirt populist. The collapse of Chomsky feels to me more like tragedy'
Matthew Singh-Dosanjh Thank you for the insight you presented quoting Christopher Hitchens who I also admire for the intellect and insight he displayed during his tragically shortened life. That said, nobody is perfect in their representations or perceptions about complex international issues. I certainly will follow up on this quote and research it in its larger context. There are a couple responses I'd like to present. First, Hitchens let me down when he evolved out of his socialist positions. He also disappointed me when he supported the criminal invasion of Iraq. He declared that we were somehow saving the Middle East from a savage dictator. I opposed the war from the beginning and wrote that it would be the disaster it turned out to be for all peoples of the area. I've not been to Iraq but I have been to the West Bank and I was appalled by the mistreatment of Arab Muslims at the hands of a government supported by the U.S. and I would then suppose, Christopher Hitchens. One other comment, and I suppose more of a question, and I would like to know, after following Chomsky, what is your opinion generally of Chomsky's views on the world we live in and the problems we face. I'm not presenting the question as a challenge, but rather an honest want of trying to understanding of your points of view. I hope you are able to read this and respond.
wrining this from october 2024. noam is speechless after a massive stroke but still alive and have been reportedly rehabilitating. his intellectual weight and contribution to the society are enormous. long live dr. chomsky. your voice is missed badly 💔
Chomsky's point about leaving out theatrics in speech is something I've always believed in. If you're trying to teach, leave any charisma or eloquence out of it. These are nothing more but emotional appeals. That isn't teaching, it's manipulating.
Rather ironic he would say that. It's rather clear that he uses a great deal of theatrics, charisma and appeal to peoples emotions, to make his point. I doubt he lacks the self awareness to see this.
Ian Escobar I disagree. I recently had the most boring lectures with an old professor who was pretty much talking to himself about theory of literature (my kinda thing) with monotone voice and no "theathre" and I literally remember nothing. I was sleeping. But maybe he wasn't just good in verbalizing his thoughts and then a very energetic, quick, intense and fun lectures with another professor about cognitive and generative grammar (not my kinda thing, but not anymore) and I was so exited about this topic. I think you need to find a nice balance between not being "too much" and being boring to death.
Me too, when I started to listen to Chomsky, it was really painful, cuz I was used to listen to charismatic speakers like Hitchens. But as time went on, I have learned so much more than I ever could. I learned to actually get interested in the words and the subject, and not the speaker. Listening to Chomsky speak, it's like listening him reading a book.
My new hobby is listening to science lectures while going to sleep. How lucky are we to have such access to these discussions and debates with the academics of the times. Thanks very much🤙 And i totally agree with the comments laurence is a remarkable moderator.
Yeah it's great, I do the same thing. Also, Terrence McKenna lectures are great to listen to at bedtime. The Trialogue Series with Sheldrake and Abraham is really great also
On topics I know something about, like the Taliban, I take what Chomsky says with a grain of salt. The Taliban were created by the Pakistani ISI. Taliban religious ideology, influenced heavily by Deobandi and so-called Wahabi dogma, is foreign to Afghans as well. The Taliban also destroyed the tribal system of consensus and eliminated the traditional role of women in Afghan society. The Taliban never controlled all of Afghanistan, either. (Their counterparts, The Northern Alliance eventually drove them out of Kabul, not US troops) The Taliban gave open support to bin Laden to set up terrorist training camps in Afghanistan, knowing full well UBL's enmity towards the West and the US. And then there is their horrible human rights record, and the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas. Does anyone really think the Taliban would have been fair-minded and reasonable negotiators? Yet in spite of all this, Chomsky reacts in mock puzzlement at the US not taking their "offer" to turn over bin Laden seriously. As if the Taliban had the political or moral authority or will to do such a thing. I follow Chomsky, but cannot agree with him here. His one-size-fits-all argument about the US being the progenitor of every conflict in the world comes off as a default response.
Esteban Nemo Condemning U.S. attack on Afghanistan in 2001 is like condemning U.S. attack on France in 1944. Some people have a view that if U.S. intervenes in something, everything that follows is their fault. If the U.S. does not intervene (like in Rwanda) then everything also is their fault. Some actually blame U.S: on what ISIS does.
***** "Condemning U.S. attack on Afghanistan in 2001 is like condemning U.S. attack on France in 1944." It's really not. At all. You could make a case that the US invasion of Normandy was justified. You cannot make the same case with the US invasion of Afghanistan, which was totally unjustified.
Well, it's an interesting analogy (though not one I would have made) and I think there are parallels, but really, it was the Northern Alliance, the Afghans themselves, that overthrew the Taliban, not US troops. America deployed limited special forces during the invasion and provided the Northern Alliance with air support and artillery. But getting back to the WW2 analogy, in a sense Afghanistan was liberated during the 2001 invasion as France was back during D-Day. At least we can say 15 million Afghans were liberated that day- the female population.
To see the amount of truth and wisdom come from his mouth make me believe once more in humanity and the precise goal of being an intellectuals is to speak the truth , honesty so you can touch the souls of victims of war crimes and send condolences in defending them by telling the truth , thank you Naom chomosky from IRAQ , baghdad
This was a great conversation. I wasn't aware that Noam was also interested in science because I have been living under a rock for a decade. He explains the connections between linguistics, behavioral science, and physics so concisely. Sometimes people think I am not paying attention because I seem to get lost in thought but in the truth I am just busying processing their words and picking apart their internal process. Which may stem from my years editing. I think the words people choose out of all the probabilities of word order are interesting. One just has to be careful not to jump to conclusions and to not make a defined judgement based on their interpretation of what those choices mean because there are always exceptions, lost in translations, and bias.
Such a great discussion. Thank you so much for capturing and uploading it. I was very pleasantly surprised when it showed up in my subscription feed. It is now depriving me from sleep though!
It's amazing (or self-evident) that intellectuals like these two guys are never an important part of the political "process". Noam Chomsky has written 100+ books on the subject, and is roundly criticized and/or dismissed when the forum is political. If intellect and open-mindedness became an important part of our public discourse, then an AMAZING culture could be realized in the USA. Everyone is so busy with "one-upmanship" and how much fucking MONEY can you earn, that being a thinking human being doesn't matter anymore. This sort of interview/debate/lecture CONVERSATION should be mandatory viewing for everyone who is registered to vote. We might be able to weed out the scum that don't deserve an elected "office". If you can't comprehend what great minds are talking about, then you don't HAVE a great mind and shouldn't be able to LEAD what you can't follow.
I'm 58 and I remember that, in high-school, a solid 50% of all kids (and their parents) believed that reading, learning, knowledge, science, art, and intellectualism in general, was decidedly "uncool". These people never changed their attitudes, they still believe "thinking" is uncool, but they back candidates, in a cult of personality fashion, and vote.
@@mad_cat_1stHonestly, I hadn't noticed the date, but I certainly would have replied anyway. In the intervening years, we've seen how correct you were, 7 years ago. :)
What we see in intellectuals like Noam. It is easy to read Noam as a creature. Noam lays it all out with not his grand puzzle. We just seen all the missing pieces. Noam and Marx act superior, smart material linguistics that mean nothing. It is all internal constructed nonsense of made up linguistics. Nothing applies to the real world nor has it been applied in reality! All the fantasies of Marx and Noam. Are monuments to failure. That is are main problem with intellectuals! It is great to have big creative fun wild thinking . However, if you can not get it to work in the real world after 175 years. Better stop thinking and start testing on a small scale then improve on working applications. Your super big untested big ideas just end up killing people. Like this video points out. ua-cam.com/video/UnkMA0l7Af8/v-deo.html Noam's base-line soul and his books are based on big envy, anger and using big violence to obtain his untested contentment. Just like Marx. That is very easy to see. He covers it up with overly complex meaningless linguistics. None of his words are tested in reality. Call him on that fact and he will fall back into a corner. He is just a poet. Dreamers love mad poets. I am an engineer. I am not great just one of millions in the world. If you want to make a bridge. Most of the time you base your idea on past bridges that worked. You refine the design based on geological tests. Wind tests, material testing, Finite Element Analysis testing. Live load testing, in-process construction testing ect. ect. Most engineers do not consider them self's intellectuals. nor do they like to be called intellectuals are all theory. An engineer is happy when he see's the mile long bridge across a bay transporting millions of cars and truck for many many years in safety. The Workers that build the bridge get the satisfaction of knowing they built that dang thing. These underlying applied realities to make something work do not exist in the minds of Noam, Marxists or most intellectuals.
As a Canadian, I think the political slogan for the United States should be "Make America Smart Again". I think that Noam and Lawrence would agree with me.
How can a professional setting like this, where the thing they say are the most important, have such bad audio? I hope it wasn't this bad for the live audience.
I am grateful to Professor Noam Chomsky for informing me of United States diplomat George Kennan decision in 1947 to allow war torn Europe and European settler colonizers to rebuild on the back of Africa. I appreciate all that he has done. Professor Noam Chomskys information enabled me to better understand my reality.
Love the content but why in lots of these videos can they not sort the sound out in advance? It's hard to listen to them without hearing all the high frequencies being swept and having a constant frequency ringing as they speak.
A really, really productive and illuminating exchange. How nice to see how Krauss, the great cosmo-monologist, submits to the true discipline of interviewing, tapping into Chomsky's mind with the just the right questions, knowing when to defer, when to challenge.
He's not giving a physics lecture here, oddly enough... And may I ask just what the fuck he's supposed to do, being a cosmologist, but monologue on cosmology? That's his job...and I'd rather have my fingernails pulled off than listen to Chomsky for 2 more minutes, since even on his own subject he's soporific when he's not being inaccurate, or even downright bloodless.
What we see in intellectuals like Noam. It is easy to read Noam as a creature. Noam lays it all out with not his grand puzzle. We just seen all the missing pieces. Noam and Marx act superior, smart material linguistics that mean nothing. It is all internal constructed nonsense of made up linguistics. Nothing applies to the real world nor has it been applied in reality! All the fantasies of Marx and Noam. Are monuments to failure. That is are main problem with intellectuals! It is great to have big creative fun wild thinking . However, if you can not get it to work in the real world after 175 years. Better stop thinking and start testing on a small scale then improve on working applications. Your super big untested big ideas just end up killing people. Like this video points out. ua-cam.com/video/UnkMA0l7Af8/v-deo.html Noam's base-line soul and his books are based on big envy, anger and using big violence to obtain his untested contentment. Just like Marx. That is very easy to see. He covers it up with overly complex meaningless linguistics. None of his words are tested in reality. Call him on that fact and he will fall back into a corner. He is just a poet. Dreamers love mad poets. I am an engineer. I am not great just one of millions in the world. If you want to make a bridge. Most of the time you base your idea on past bridges that worked. You refine the design based on geological tests. Wind tests, material testing, Finite Element Analysis testing. Live load testing, in-process construction testing ect. ect. Most engineers do not consider them self's intellectuals. nor do they like to be called intellectuals are all theory. An engineer is happy when he see's the mile long bridge across a bay transporting millions of cars and truck for many many years in safety. The Workers that build the bridge get the satisfaction of knowing they built that dang thing. These underlying applied realities to make something work do not exist in the minds of Noam, Marxists or most intellectuals.
could you put ShileyFilms this video with spanish subtitle? or the option to automatic youtube translation? is very hard as a english secon language understand most of it. Thanks!
i am very lucky to be able to watch his discussion on this channel. I just want to underline his last statement that : "we have to make a distinction here between individual rasionality and the institutional rasionality" and his views on today's climate change issue: "you don't have to be a climate scientist to understand this much about what's going on" very thoughtful and enlightening. understanding his thoughts requires a clear thinking and understanding the context of the discussion. may he always be given health. 🤲🙏🏼
At 1:22:30, Chomsky says ISIS didn't come from nowhere, but rather from our invasion of Iraq, which was "imposing sectarian divisions that barely existed." Could someone please explain to me, an opponent of our invasion of Iraq from the very beginning, how we "imposed" sectarian divisions, and how these divisions had not previously existed for hundreds of years and were still there in a dormant form?
Chuck Turchick I didn't mean that Iraq was "imposing sectarian divisions...," but that Chomsky said our invasion of Iraq was what imposed these sectarian divisions.
Chuck The overall definition of secularism is to divide church from state. I don't understand when you say "how these divisions had not previously existed for hundreds of years and were still there in a dormant form". So the dormant form must have come about before the hundreds of years when those divisions had not previously existed. If America imposed sectarian divisions it is only because they want no morality to get in the way of their killing millions of people. They want to divide the state from the religion. Otherwise, Iraq was about the taking of resources, just like every other false flag that the nazis, called the american government, have created just before each war.
This is one of the subjects Chomsky gets correct. He's referring to the Yinon Plan (1982) to destabilize the region along sectarian, religious and ethnic lines picked up by the Neocons and modified in Richard Perle's Clean Break report and later thinly disguised in the PNAC plan running America foreign policy in the middle east (which has been designed by Israel since 1967 according to Yitzhak Rabin); funding and supporting radicals like Al Qaeda and ISIS is essential to this and it's well known now America and allies are doing this now in Syria (as of Sept 19, 2018). This project for 'Greater Israel' is based on a rabbinic interpretation of the land promised to Abraham's seed (Gen 15.18) and misapplied to themselves rather than the messiah whom they reject, Yeshua Jesus and therefore those in covenant with Him (cf Ps 118.22, Mat 21.42ff, Gal 3.16-19, Rom 9.8, Hos 1.9-10)
Yeah, Chomsky isn't well thought out on Islamic states and their problems. Even when it comes to human perceptions, he discounts Richard Dawkins work by making a strawman of Richards coined term "Meme". Chomsky is B-level when it comes to the study of the propagation of useful communicable strategies in social-cultural structures (meme-idea survival).
""...When the syrens tried to stop Ulysses, a great calm came over the sea. But "profound calm is perhaps more awful than the storm itself", Mellville´s Moby Dick teaches us, and the most tremendous storm almost always bursts out from the cloudless sky, like an exploding bomb over a dazed and sleepy town." The fact is that when Ulysses´ ship passed near that island , "the wind ceased " and a honeyed song reached the ears of the hero, a song that tried to bewitch him, to make him forget who he was, to fill him with new experiences instead. Those who stay with the sirens, leave "knowing more things". One hundred years ago, in 1912, there was also a great calm when the Titanic sank. This calm was the result of the optimism of the sirens, then positivsm and scientism, which for at least several decades had announced that the world was progressing relentlessly and had promised to know enough to be able to give comfort to all.""
This is just great thanks for posting - along with Hitchens Harris Dawkins when he’s not being exasperating, Bart Erdmann Bishop Spong these 2 are my faves and experiencing them together having a real dialogue just f in makes me happy . The perfect thing to watch after a bowl of Nightmare Cookie nugs!
It's a crime that I haven't read any Chomsky yet -- but part of the problem is that he's had such a prolific career that it's rather daunting to figure out where to start. Krauss said he assigned himself five books to read in preparation for their talk, so I'd like to put that call out to any Chomskyphiles who might be reading. What are the 5 (more or less) must-read Chomsky books -- or with which books should a new reader start their trek?
Depends on what interests you, for his political philosophy 'Chomsky on anarchism' is a good read. Talks a lot about the Spanish revolution and about the possibilities of organizing human society amongst other subjects. It's very well written with sources as varied as conservative economists to George Orwell. It'll also be good for you if the line, authority should be challenged and if it's illegitimate ultimately dismantled and replaced with... because that's the philosophy of anarchism. If you want to read about the media and how the state gets people to go along with unpopular decisions read 'manufacturing consent'. As for foreign policy I must admit a limited knowledge on his vast library(he has written over 100 books after all)... it depends on which foreign policy action you're looking for.... he's got everything from works on Vietnam, middle eastern affairs, Latin American atrocities committed either directly or indirectly by the u.s, I'll let someone else take this one... if you want his linguistics I must admit near ignorance on his writings. He's got some good essays on his website on whichever subject interests you.
It occurred to me,at the conclusion of the discussion that Bob Dylan's line "You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows" would have been good music to exit by.
The best teacher I ever had was in grade 11 and 12. Allan McPhail taught history and geography and most of his classes merged the two. Many of his classes would begin by his making a statement which I would challenge and the discussion/debate would begin. We would challenge each other and discuss a wide range of topics as one lead into another and the rest of the class just listened until the class was over. He was the only teacher that ever really challenged me and I always remember him with great respect. The worst teacher I ever had was the history teacher I had the year before I et Mr. McPhail. That fool would copy the history text onto the blackboard verbatm and expect us to copy it into our work books. At the end of each segment of the school year he would collect our notebooks and mark them I suppose on neatness. I never had one to hand in because only a fool would do that. He told me he was going to fail me and I told him he couldn't because I planned to ace his exams which I did because I loved history and that fool couldn't spoil my love affair with the subject. I always thought that if I wasn't so bored with school that I dropped out after grade 12, I might have been a good teacher.
@UCo4_-gnvkI8goMiIdhD7tJw I am Ronzig the Wizard and many miracles have guided me through a long life. But my time is coming to an end and others will have to take my place.
What we see in intellectuals like Noam. It is easy to read Noam as a creature. Noam lays it all out with not his grand puzzle. We just seen all the missing pieces. Noam and Marx act superior, smart material linguistics that mean nothing. It is all internal constructed nonsense of made up linguistics. Nothing applies to the real world nor has it been applied in reality! All the fantasies of Marx and Noam. Are monuments to failure. That is are main problem with intellectuals! It is great to have big creative fun wild thinking . However, if you can not get it to work in the real world after 175 years. Better stop thinking and start testing on a small scale then improve on working applications. Your super big untested big ideas just end up killing people. Like this video points out. ua-cam.com/video/UnkMA0l7Af8/v-deo.html Noam's base-line soul and his books are based on big envy, anger and using big violence to obtain his untested contentment. Just like Marx. That is very easy to see. He covers it up with overly complex meaningless linguistics. None of his words are tested in reality. Call him on that fact and he will fall back into a corner. He is just a poet. Dreamers love mad poets. I am an engineer. I am not great just one of millions in the world. If you want to make a bridge. Most of the time you base your idea on past bridges that worked. You refine the design based on geological tests. Wind tests, material testing, Finite Element Analysis testing. Live load testing, in-process construction testing ect. ect. Most engineers do not consider them self's intellectuals. nor do they like to be called intellectuals are all theory. An engineer is happy when he see's the mile long bridge across a bay transporting millions of cars and truck for many many years in safety. The Workers that build the bridge get the satisfaction of knowing they built that dang thing. These underlying applied realities to make something work do not exist in the minds of Noam, Marxists or most intellectuals.
I wonder if Noam knows the "woah" moments his listeners have, he doesnt seem to be schooling you. Hes always so humble like having a casual conversation lol
He reads almost every academic book printed. That keeps him pretty busy, I bet. The joke Krause made at the beginning. I had to read five books a night for a week, just to feel comfortable coming into this talk. That's the base line for a conversation, let alone keeping up with him. Look at those notes.
I'm glad I can actually hear Noam in this video. So often he seems to mumble and speak so softly that I have to turn the volume all the way up and quickly lower it whenever anyone else begins to speak.
Noam Chomsky, as usual, contributes some very valuable insights in this talk. He can be extremely critical of U.S. policy--because it is often very ugly--tho many just refuse to aknowledge this truth, prefering to believe the RA RA USA stuff they heard in youth. And I am glad to see that Lawrence Krauss is alive to these issues.
I can now listen to a conversation between Noam Chomsky and Lawrence Krauss while sitting on my couch here in Bangladesh.
Thank you internet.
What we see in intellectuals like Noam. It is easy to read Noam as a creature. Noam lays it all out with not his grand puzzle. We just seen all the missing pieces. Noam and Marx act superior, smart material linguistics that mean nothing. It is all internal constructed nonsense of made up linguistics. Nothing applies to the real world nor has it been applied in reality! All the
fantasies of Marx and Noam. Are monuments to failure. That is are main problem with intellectuals! It is great to have big creative fun wild thinking . However, if you can not get it to work in the real world after 175 years. Better stop thinking and start testing on a small scale then improve on working applications. Your super big untested big ideas just end up killing people. Like this video points out. ua-cam.com/video/UnkMA0l7Af8/v-deo.html
Noam's base-line soul and his books are based on big envy, anger and using big violence to obtain his untested contentment. Just like Marx. That is very easy to see. He covers it up with overly complex meaningless linguistics. None of his words are tested in reality. Call him on that fact and he will fall back into a corner. He is just a poet. Dreamers love mad poets.
I am an engineer. I am not great just one of millions in the world. If you want to make a bridge. Most of the time you base your idea on past bridges that worked. You refine the design based on geological tests. Wind tests, material testing, Finite Element Analysis testing. Live load testing, in-process construction testing ect. ect. Most engineers do not consider them self's intellectuals. nor do they like to be called intellectuals are all theory. An engineer is happy when he see's the mile long bridge across a bay transporting millions of cars and truck for many many years in safety. The Workers that build the bridge get the satisfaction of knowing they built that dang thing. These underlying applied realities to make something work do not exist in the minds of Noam, Marxists or most intellectuals.
from Pakistan !! :)
Thank you for remind of this fact. I sometimes forget about the modern marvel of the internet, even with its warts an all.
@@TheConstitutionFirst That was a lot of copious, inane and illiterate word vomit.
@@shadeassassin9248 Maybe! Puke?
I have been reading or listening to Noam for 63 years and I still get something out of it.
Marxist philosophy is just plain fun and inherently moral: This video Nails it!
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How old are you?
@@romaknafel4116 10 I am in High School.
Me too.
@@matthewbroe904 ikr
It has to blow Chomsky's mind that all these kids react to him like a rock star. Dude is legit cool
I'm sure it give him some hope.
@@Jarjarjar21 I agree... I think once upon a time he would've reacted to that in a negative light, i.e. don't revere me... now he sees it as "there's a new generation that are going to challenge the status quo"
Aside form politics, can anyone tell me why is Chomsky so admired? I doubt that his followers understand his work on linguistics, so I suspect the admiration comes from Chomsky's political stance.
@@samerdrich5579 he's like a Bernie Sanders of the intellectual world, he's been morally consistent and had the gall to stick it out for 90 years, the man has been consistently calling out atrocious and inhumane foreign policy decisions since forever. He's a reliable and trustworthy point of information, why wouldn't people be appreciative of him?
He is a rock star!
damn it, he is 86 year old and he is most lucid, self-aware, conscientious and mindful person I have ever heard.
He's now 95, still the same
@@doreekaplan2589 oh boy, I commented that 8 years ago, so much has changed since than, so much… new information has emerged, and I can see patterns now much better
Chomsky is an intellectual activist, considering and exploring issues before forming an opinion then acting on them - a great example. He will be one of the few who are respected far into the future when people look back.
He merely does what most of us were told in school we should do, in terms of thinking and laying out an argument. We simply refuse to have open and honest discussions. It's not really intelligence that's lacking.
@@katarinaaram588 He's exceptionally good at spotting and disregarding bullshit
Where are they going to do their looking back from?
From a voice from 2020.
Tasit.
He’s an idiot with the same conclusion to every equation. America bad. It’s like Trump. Everything Trump does the answer is Orange Man bad. Trump sends troops to Syria, Orange man bad. Trump brings troops home from Syria, Orange Man bad. Well Chomsky which one is it? Maybe Chomsky should think a little deeper. Krauss isn’t much better. Krauss tells us that the universe came from nothing. Krauss couldn’t tell us where life comes from. He couldn’t create a single protein let alone a complete cell. And then he gets political which makes him a blithering idiot. Ditto with God.
Lawrence Krauss defines what a good interviewer is: Somebody who ask questions and shuts up once the interviewee starts speaking.
But most importantly, also contributes with own qualified arguments, so that it becomes a real live dialogue. Just reading loud questions is not good interviewing.
Well said / makes The Hannity elk look like preschoolers
@@Jimyblues They are preschoolers.
I had a feeling that he wasn't even listening. :)
So right! I hate interviewers who interrupt the second they don't like what the person is saying! Many cable news desk jockeys do that today!
Could you imagine a world in which Chomsky is celebrated in our culture as much as kim Kardashian
that would be a thing
No. No, I can't. Unless you say "our culture" meaning educated people who actually give a damn about this place.
It will never happen. America is full of anti-intellectuals.
yes. communism
Don’t say anything start doing from now on
As someone who loves learning and the pursuit of knowledge, and who has an appreciation of critical thinking, I highly value Chomsky's take on deflating your ability to orate efficaciously in order that people value what you say, and not just how you say it. At the same time, your burden is passing along the idea of critical thinking. And if the benefactor doesnt already possess, then you have to be oratorically persuasive. It like the epitome of irony. I love the whole landscape painted by these two artists, and crave more of it.
Could you imagine seeing him sitting on a bench and feeding pigeons? You'd sit down, say one thing, and realize very quickly that this man is an absolute genius. Quite a surprise but a welcome one.
Me: ...Thoughts...
Chomsky: Well, in fact... Five hours later...
So in conclusion.
Me: 🧐 You don't say.
The opening introduction brought tears to my eyes. I've been following Noam for decades and he never disappoints even if the subject matter may be disturbing.
Very well worth the extra time. ❤
Excellent Discussion between Professors Noam Chomsky and Lawrence Krauss, kindred spirits in the search for truth and liberty in a world that is always at a critical crossroads between enlightenment, creativity and peace to irrationality, destruction and aggression. It is really great to see the two of these great men in discussion about everything from human intelligence, social structures to conflict and aggression and the development of our civilization both technologically and morally and the responsibility of intellectuals to seek the truth and expose lies no matter what authorities say.
Awesome dialogue, thanks Muon Ray
Muon Ray Well said!
I.
Ray N Today is of course Holocaust remembrance day. Critics like Keith Harman Snow critique what he calls the Holocaust Industry; and the profits being made off of countless heinous murders. Contrast that with zero collective memory in the West about the murder of Cambodians by the Khmer Rouge. First hand accounts such as this put into acute contrast the wildly differing results of mass genocide on a population years later. Needless to say both are disturbing.
Muon Ray Subbed lol
I am an admitted Chomskyite! Many years of study, observation and deep thought are always evident when he speaks! We need him around in this day and age, especially!
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What we see in intellectuals like Noam. It is easy to read Noam as a creature. Noam lays it all out with not his grand puzzle. We just seen all the missing pieces. Noam and Marx act superior, smart material linguistics that mean nothing. It is all internal constructed nonsense of made up linguistics. Nothing applies to the real world nor has it been applied in reality! All the
fantasies of Marx and Noam. Are monuments to failure. That is are main problem with intellectuals! It is great to have big creative fun wild thinking . However, if you can not get it to work in the real world after 175 years. Better stop thinking and start testing on a small scale then improve on working applications. Your super big untested big ideas just end up killing people. Like this video points out. ua-cam.com/video/UnkMA0l7Af8/v-deo.html
Noam's base-line soul and his books are based on big envy, anger and using big violence to obtain his untested contentment. Just like Marx. That is very easy to see. He covers it up with overly complex meaningless linguistics. None of his words are tested in reality. Call him on that fact and he will fall back into a corner. He is just a poet. Dreamers love mad poets.
I am an engineer. I am not great just one of millions in the world. If you want to make a bridge. Most of the time you base your idea on past bridges that worked. You refine the design based on geological tests. Wind tests, material testing, Finite Element Analysis testing. Live load testing, in-process construction testing ect. ect. Most engineers do not consider them self's intellectuals. nor do they like to be called intellectuals are all theory. An engineer is happy when he see's the mile long bridge across a bay transporting millions of cars and truck for many many years in safety. The Workers that build the bridge get the satisfaction of knowing they built that dang thing. These underlying applied realities to make something work do not exist in the minds of Noam, Marxists or most intellectuals.
@@TheConstitutionFirst Indeed. These are the thoughts of Thomas Sowell. He wrote a book about intellectuals and made these points
This was an excellent interview which I have share in every possible place I can post awareness.
Thank you Noam Chomsky and Lawrence Krauss
*Look through the pictures & you will find Krauss hanging out with Epstein
Birds of a feather flock together =
Once a friend of presidents, the ultra-rich and the elite of Wall Street’s bankers - plus a major benefactor to Harvard University - Jeffrey Epstein handled portfolios estimated to be worth over $15 billion. Then he became ensnared in a scandal involving the sexual abuse of underage girls. He is seen here, pre-scandal, at left, in conversation with Alan Dershowitz, one of America’s best-known legal experts and a Harvard Law professor emeritus, at a Cambridge event. Dershowitz became a key member of Epstein’s legal team.
Read more here: www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article232385422.html#storylink=cpy
Harvey Weinstein, Jeffery Epstein & Hugh Hefner were molesting all those that wanted initiation into his world.
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Revealed: Bill Clinton, Mick Jagger and Donald Trump were in black book of Prince Andrew’s sex abuser friend Jeffrey Epstein
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Billionaire Pervert Jeffrey Epstein And His Famous Friends A Primer
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Head of the Snake - Wexner, Maxwell’s, Mossad & Mega Group Exposed
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Blackstone Vault
Epstein files
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Ted Gunderson - Former FBI Chief Exposes 'Illuminati' (disturbing content)
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TED GUNDERSON CHRONICLES
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No Questions Asked - How the British Establishment hide child abuse
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The Monarchy British VIP pedophile ring for decades
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How The British State Protects Paedophiles
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Britain’s Pedophilia ELITE… [EXPOSED] 2018 Documentary
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Satanists & Pedophiles Run The World
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THE STRANGE STORY OF THE QUEEN AND THE CHILDREN WHO ‘DISAPPEARED’
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Queen Elizabeth and 10 Missing Children Truth With Trishaly
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Queen Elizabeth Found Guilty in Missing Children Case
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Mass graves of Mohawk children have been uncovered by ground-penetrating radar at the Mohawk Institute,
a residential school for Mohawk operated by the Church of England and the Vatican before its closure in 1970.
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THE QUEEN AND MISSING KIDS
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Proof Queen Elizabeth killed kids in Canada!
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No justice for Epstein accusers as Queen denies ties - Galloway
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The Origins of Jeffrey Epstein | 1971
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Fall of the Cabal Revelations: Meet the Scherffs [Bush] + Meet the Hitlers [Obama] - Robert Potter
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You can download the book for free here
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Meet The Scherffs
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Is George H.W. Bush Really Prescott Bush's Son?
Or Is He The Son Of Inventor Nikola Tesla's German-Born Accountant, George H. Scherff, Sr.?
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This satanic blackmailing has been going on for a long time now =
The Fatty Arbuckle Scandal
www.neatorama.com/2017/04/14/The-Fatty-Arbuckle-Scandal/
George Washington and his "White Slaves" / Indentured in the Mt Vernon Plantation / Truth
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From Indigenous American to African American // Meet The Original People of The America's
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White Servitude // Indentured in the Penal Colonies of America / The True Middle Passage
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The Truth about Abraham Lincoln // The Runaway Indentured Servant Colored Man
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Untold Ancient American Truth // Mayach/Turtle/First/Maya/Mu/Mother/Atlantis/Egypt/Amazon
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And Then They Came for the Books...
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I was afraid all the comments here would be very earnest and intellectual. I'm so glad to see that, as with all youtube videos, it's mostly rants and insults.
@andi Levicky
...and sarcasm. lol.
You just added sarcasm to the list.
Aside form politics, can anyone tell me why is Chomsky so admired? I doubt that his followers understand his work on linguistics, so I suspect the admiration comes from Chomsky's political stance.
@@samerdrich5579 Not just his stance(s). John Kerry criticized Bush's war. Heck, Donald Trump used the mass-rejection, late arriving, of Bush's war, to attack Jeb so he couldn't win on the coattails of his younger brother.
Chomsky provides analysis, mostly factual, about US and Western violent interventions, by so called liberal intellectuals, and covert ops that became known.
@@gg_rider My point is proved, I said "asides from politics" and no one has been able to answer so far.
Absolutely brilliant wide-ranging discussion.
Be sure to watch part 2, the 45 minute Q&A follow-up.
My respect for L.Krauss skyrocketed.Brave man very brave and exactly what sort of people this age of humans needs,hopefully more of the bright people will speak up !not against america against the greed against injustice for all our sake
Let's not go into Krauss's character please; spoil the mood.
fool
@@dreamingrightnow1174 he loves to come across as a "Naughty boy" Krauss is a terrible nontalent - a disgrace to his field , and a "Assgrabber" - with a long lineup of young female students he just couldnt help himself from grabbing and being a total sexist jerkoff , who believe AYNYONE find his craterface and plumb style, attracting,-
@@MikkelGrumBovin Yeah, and don't even get me started on his Jeffrey Epstein adoration...
Is there some way to Keep this man , Chomsky, alive for another 150 years?...
we should freeze him.
if technological singularity happens, perhaps
Ask Kissinger.
By giving him a portion of our lives!
Apo Galiev It’s a load of crap. This book isn’t worth the media it’s propagated on. No one should waste their time even considering looking into it at all. Pure nonsense and dribble. Only the soft-minded could possibly take it seriously.
Professor Chomsky, a true intellectual and wonderful human being
who is an untrue intellectual?
@@bryanpinto4051 Have you never heard of sophistry?
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At this point, I don't know what is to come. But the intoduction to Noam Chomsky by Krauss is a great start. Thank you all involved in making this available here.
Chomsky is one of the few great intellectuals who speak with grace and honestly 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Lower the gain on the sound desk and kill the feedback or find the frequency and lower it!!!
massive dissapointment with the sound for the first 45 minutes... I mean seriously, on THIS show? Whoever was working the sound should be ashamed professionally.
Robert Ransley There must be some standard settings for the two mics here in this theatre, not a complex arrangement !
AsFewFalseThingsAsPossible I think the problem mighta been that they had the levels turned up because Chomsky speaks so softly, would that have caused the feedback?
How can no one running sound at a university think about throwing an EQ on the mic?
Exactly, the trouble starts when Chomsky comes out, he speaks so softly. Soundguys nightmare. But no excuse.
I might be the universe's biggest nerd, but when I first saw the title of this video and realized it was genuine I just about rolled around on the floor with delight.
Wait till a decent copy of the Rise of Skywalker gets uploaded into torrent cyberspace.
I got an email from him once and was afraid to touch my computer for fear it would fly away
What does it mean to just about roll around on the floor?
rolled around in your own shit
Marxist philosophy is just plain fun and inherently moral: This video Nails it!
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Simply i can say i love NOAM CHOMSKY .
same here in germany
I’m sure he loves you too, nacho man.
@@freydenker6335 Same here. Another German.
Marxist philosophy is just plain fun and inherently moral: This video Nails it!
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@@TheConstitutionFirst I like how you classified the Nazi's as socialist xdddd, v accurate
"what's more obscene is that we don't talk about it" - on our part in genocide and war crimes.
Two of my heroes! The master of physics and the master of language and morality! What a treat for us to be able to listen to these two great men.
This guys knowledge is astounding. The breadth and the depth
anybody watching this quarantined, and misses sitting in theater to listen to lectures and debates like this?
no
No. I hated school and dropped out of college. The rigidity was too much. But I listen to this sort of stuff while I drive, cook, lift weights etc. Sometimes I think I have some form of ADHD
... well I do! I agree with you and miss it a lot.
@@Creamy6oodness You might very well. During college, I had to smoke a cigarette each break to slow my brain down to be able to withstand the slow pace of the courses. I learned way more spending time in the library, studying all the books on a matter I could find, solving problems on my own.
But that's also where I believe Chomsky makes a mistake. Not everybody is built this way. Most of my fellow students were not interested in doing that huge intellectual effort. They were much more interested in getting knowledge poured into their heads like a liquid. Also, only a few of the professors were able to each me by just watching over my shoulder, telling me that there's another book I should read, or that what I was looking into might be connected to some other field I may want to look into, and just very discreetly guiding me, based on the huge knowledge they themselves had already accumulated, at the same time being humble about it.
If we'd rely on the few professors of this kind, and on the few students who are willing and able to learn this way, we'd still be in the middle ages, and modern science would be magic to most people.
@@Creamy6oodness maybe you are just an idiot :)
Chomsky is so soft-spoken, keeping his mic from feeding back was clearly an ongoing challenge to some engineer.
I thoroughly enjoyed that discussion. For me, the great joy of such gentle but deep discussion is available to me in my own home - I am at home in my chair but right with them. If I don't grasp a point being put forward I can stop, rewind and re approach. I can stop and think through what is being suggested or observed. How lucky are we, this generation who can observe and participate in so many debates and discussions. Chomsky is growing on me. Of course I am familiar with him but the internet allows us to pursue him throughout his life listening as he casts off pearls and thoughts over his shoulder.
Every time I hear Noam Chomsky speak, I am in awe of his evident intellect. He seems to easily express thoughts and concepts which, though very deep, appear to be obvious once they are spoken.
I'm guessing they didn't have a union sound man on this shoot. Holy shit, what an amateur job on audio.
How did it feel when your girl Tulsi endorsed Biden?
A big fault with many UA-cam videos. Couldn’t UA-cam develop some algorithm to modulate soundto a a standard level?
Commie
I completely agree. There are multiple rings, build ups and actual fucking feedback the whole fucking time.
@@thomashenderson5047 nontalent
Oh, I just wish there was an audio engineer capable of getting the audio right for events like these.
Rude
That's just his voice, not the microphone.
Hey, maybe they should run his audio through garage band and filter it with auto tune.
Absolutely my favorite Chomsky talk. Its like an overall summary of his best work and ideas. All in under 2 hours.
Will Griffin Anytime you got an old athiest jew circuit speaker like Chomsky spinning yarns about everything under the sun except jewish usury caste system. You got an old jew shekeler...
1:27:32 "It happens because we're supporting it." That statement could not be more correct.
Every fault in our society, is due to society, not individuals.
Each individual should take personal responsibility, so our systems put in place can function successfully.
Pay my homage to you ,Noam👏. Your words and smiles, give the way to go to find the best we can!👏🙏The hope, no hopeless at all!
Finally, the perfect remedy for my insomnia.
***** Heh...Chomsky whispering in an ASMR video....look out, Maria!
Raoul Borans Hahaha True
Esteban Nemo who do you mean when referring to ASMR? I'm racking my mind to try and work out who it is but my brain fails me, it's probably the lack of sleep and stress of other things causing me to have what I can only describe as a brain fart, thanks.
Do a search for "ASMR Maria" on UA-cam.
Too bad about the sound problems at the beginning, they were somewhat distracting. If anyone is wondering, they get finally resolved around 26:50 mark when new microphones are brought in.
Other than that, I did enjoy watching this, although it was more of an interview than a dialogue. But I guess in this case that's okay. ;)
Amazing to see these two fine men on a stage together. Chomsky still has his dry wit.
I don't recall see him giggle as much before either; endearing. Krauss has the wherewithal to pair with Noam, and challenge someone he has respect for. GREAT POST.
Okay, but can you say someone like Krauss with his sexual assault/harassment allegations a "fine" man? He's lucky to be on the stage with NC.
Brilliant ideas and these two guys are source of them.
Long life for you two to shed more light on our minds.
The man is brilliant. Every time I listen to him I learn something at least somewhat mind-blowing.
"Man is born free and everywhere is in chains" a quote by Jean-Jacque Rousseau and is the correct quote.
There is not enough that I can say about Noam Chomsky that can trump the plaudits bestowed on him. This video was recently shot at ASU as part of a series hosted and led by Lawrence Krauss, himself not just a noted physicist, but a public intellectual as well. If you believe that there is another way for the world to revolve than the out of control spin set in motion by the current global and economic crisis, then you must avail yourself of this interview, done in two parts, the first of which is linked here. Chomsky is a "public intellectual", a term he deserves. However, he is not your average snooty, ten dollar word upper crust sort, and that is really part of what makes him different, and his thoughts accessible. He does not get enough credit for the manner in which he communicates, the attractiveness of his logic, and the common sense that his opinions reflect. If you are attracted to what he has to say, and you feel as I do about his style of rhetoric, I highly recommend that you encourage others with concerns about the future of the world we live in, to put aside their initial abhorrence of the word intellectual, and their hatred for elitism, and just listen for five minutes to what he has to say. Chomsky's words need to be proliferated far beyond the world of the already converted. He needs to be heard by the masses of people who are the power base on which change can evolve.
I really liked it that Krauss did this discussion. I bet Krauss has many followers who have never heard of Chomsky, so I'm glad he did it. And good that he didn't turned it into an endless discussion about religion.
I'll second your comments on both counts. Krauss, as a "star" of the ASU series, does a great job with his discussion approach to bringing out the ideas of those who sit in the chair next to him on stage. One admonition of course, and that is that he has guests on who he admires so there isn't a sense that you have to brace yourself hard for the antagonistic question that you think may be coming. After all, he's talking to a friend, and that friend has good, solid and meaningful things to say. So it just seems to flow with Krauss's approach. And yes, let us not put that threadbare discussion of religion on the docket. There are plenty of other opportunities to air out the scientists grievances against religion.
George Aponick
Christopher Hitchens on Chomsky:
'[Chomsky] has now been impeached by his own standards, since scrutiny of the evidence does not bear him out on Serbia or Afghanistan or Iraq. It didn't bear him out on Cambodia either, though he was never a "Holocaust denier" or anything like it. And he has, I think, ceased to be of any use to young people who might pardonably doubt the official story.'
'My quarrel with Chomsky goes back to the Balkan wars of the 1990s, where he more or less openly represented the "Serbian Socialist Party" (actually the national-socialist and expansionist dictatorship of Slobodan Milosevic) as the victim. Many of us are proud of having helped organize to prevent the slaughter and deportation of Europe's oldest and largest and most tolerant Muslim minority, in Bosnia-Herzegovina and in Kosovo. But at that time, when they were real, Chomsky wasn't apparently interested in Muslim grievances. He only became a voice for that when the Taliban and Al Qaeda needed to be represented in their turn as the victims of a "silent genocide" in Afghanistan. Let me put it like this, if a supposed scholar takes the Christian-Orthodox side when it is the aggressor, and then switches to taking the "Muslim" side when Muslims commit mass murder, I think that there is something very nasty going on. And yes, I don't think it is exaggerated to describe that nastiness as "anti-American" when the power that stops and punishes both aggressions is the United States … In some awful way, his regard for the underdog has mutated into support for mad dogs. This is not at all like watching the implosion of an obvious huckster and jerk like Michael Moore, who would have made a perfectly good Brownshirt populist. The collapse of Chomsky feels to me more like tragedy'
Matthew Singh-Dosanjh
Chomsky > Hitchens on every level.
Matthew Singh-Dosanjh
Thank you for the insight you presented quoting Christopher Hitchens who I also admire for the intellect and insight he displayed during his tragically shortened life. That said, nobody is perfect in their representations or perceptions about complex international issues. I certainly will follow up on this quote and research it in its larger context. There are a couple responses I'd like to present. First, Hitchens let me down when he evolved out of his socialist positions. He also disappointed me when he supported the criminal invasion of Iraq. He declared that we were somehow saving the Middle East from a savage dictator. I opposed the war from the beginning and wrote that it would be the disaster it turned out to be for all peoples of the area. I've not been to Iraq but I have been to the West Bank and I was appalled by the mistreatment of Arab Muslims at the hands of a government supported by the U.S. and I would then suppose, Christopher Hitchens. One other comment, and I suppose more of a question, and I would like to know, after following Chomsky, what is your opinion generally of Chomsky's views on the world we live in and the problems we face. I'm not presenting the question as a challenge, but rather an honest want of trying to understanding of your points of view.
I hope you are able to read this and respond.
Excellent//thanks Lawrence for this great dialogue..
wrining this from october 2024. noam is speechless after a massive stroke but still alive and have been reportedly rehabilitating. his intellectual weight and contribution to the society are enormous. long live dr. chomsky. your voice is missed badly 💔
Chomsky's point about leaving out theatrics in speech is something I've always believed in. If you're trying to teach, leave any charisma or eloquence out of it. These are nothing more but emotional appeals. That isn't teaching, it's manipulating.
Rather ironic he would say that. It's rather clear that he uses a great deal of theatrics, charisma and appeal to peoples emotions, to make his point. I doubt he lacks the self awareness to see this.
Ian Escobar I disagree. I recently had the most boring lectures with an old professor who was pretty much talking to himself about theory of literature (my kinda thing) with monotone voice and no "theathre" and I literally remember nothing. I was sleeping. But maybe he wasn't just good in verbalizing his thoughts and then a very energetic, quick, intense and fun lectures with another professor about cognitive and generative grammar (not my kinda thing, but not anymore) and I was so exited about this topic. I think you need to find a nice balance between not being "too much" and being boring to death.
Obviously you have never seen Richard Feynman teaching.
Ian Escobar : Preacher tactics, indeed!
Me too, when I started to listen to Chomsky, it was really painful, cuz I was used to listen to charismatic speakers like Hitchens. But as time went on, I have learned so much more than I ever could. I learned to actually get interested in the words and the subject, and not the speaker. Listening to Chomsky speak, it's like listening him reading a book.
My new hobby is listening to science lectures while going to sleep.
How lucky are we to have such access to these discussions and debates with the academics of the times.
Thanks very much🤙
And i totally agree with the comments laurence is a remarkable moderator.
For some of us this may actually be the best way of learning, perhaps the new future of education for some….
Yeah it's great, I do the same thing. Also, Terrence McKenna lectures are great to listen to at bedtime. The Trialogue Series with Sheldrake and Abraham is really great also
Lesson here is: dont go to ASU for sound production.
lack of knowledge expose armin nawabi
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It’s ASU. You go for the booze and the girls
A million thanks to Lawrence Krauss for this extraordinary dialogue with one of the most admirable, brilliant, and advanced humanists ever!!
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This is the best discussion with Chomsky I 've ever seen or read. Thanks for sharing.
Lawrence needs a shirt that says "we'll get to that" lol
:D
he needs a shirt that says "Pedophile conman"
@@MikkelGrumBovin self project much?
Can you imagine twenty five minutes in still getting ringing from the sound person?! If you book Noam, book a sound person that can handle him.
Chomsky and Krauss? What the fuck?! I would have never imagined these two on stage together. This is going to be good!
how can he - he is too large...
A Skeptical Human * Apparently, Chomski was one of Krauss' professors.
I was surprised the universe didn’t explode when these two met.
On topics I know something about, like the Taliban, I take what Chomsky says with a grain of salt. The Taliban were created by the Pakistani ISI. Taliban religious ideology, influenced heavily by Deobandi and so-called Wahabi dogma, is foreign to Afghans as well. The Taliban also destroyed the tribal system of consensus and eliminated the traditional role of women in Afghan society. The Taliban never controlled all of Afghanistan, either. (Their counterparts, The Northern Alliance eventually drove them out of Kabul, not US troops) The Taliban gave open support to bin Laden to set up terrorist training camps in Afghanistan, knowing full well UBL's enmity towards the West and the US. And then there is their horrible human rights record, and the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas. Does anyone really think the Taliban would have been fair-minded and reasonable negotiators? Yet in spite of all this, Chomsky reacts in mock puzzlement at the US not taking their "offer" to turn over bin Laden seriously. As if the Taliban had the political or moral authority or will to do such a thing. I follow Chomsky, but cannot agree with him here. His one-size-fits-all argument about the US being the progenitor of every conflict in the world comes off as a default response.
Esteban Nemo Where did Chomsky state that the US was the progenitor of every conflict in the world?
Esteban Nemo Condemning U.S. attack on Afghanistan in 2001 is like condemning U.S. attack on France in 1944. Some people have a view that if U.S. intervenes in something, everything that follows is their fault. If the U.S. does not intervene (like in Rwanda) then everything also is their fault. Some actually blame U.S: on what ISIS does.
***** "Condemning U.S. attack on Afghanistan in 2001 is like condemning U.S. attack on France in 1944."
It's really not. At all. You could make a case that the US invasion of Normandy was justified. You cannot make the same case with the US invasion of Afghanistan, which was totally unjustified.
Well, it's an interesting analogy (though not one I would have made) and I think there are parallels, but really, it was the Northern Alliance, the Afghans themselves, that overthrew the Taliban, not US troops. America deployed limited special forces during the invasion and provided the Northern Alliance with air support and artillery. But getting back to the WW2 analogy, in a sense Afghanistan was liberated during the 2001 invasion as France was back during D-Day. At least we can say 15 million Afghans were liberated that day- the female population.
+Adam Watson Provide an argument for "totally unjustified", because you're just making assertions and nothing more.
To see the amount of truth and wisdom come from his mouth make me believe once more in humanity and the precise goal of being an intellectuals is to speak the truth , honesty so you can touch the souls of victims of war crimes and send condolences in defending them by telling the truth , thank you Naom chomosky from IRAQ , baghdad
This was a great conversation. I wasn't aware that Noam was also interested in science because I have been living under a rock for a decade. He explains the connections between linguistics, behavioral science, and physics so concisely. Sometimes people think I am not paying attention because I seem to get lost in thought but in the truth I am just busying processing their words and picking apart their internal process. Which may stem from my years editing. I think the words people choose out of all the probabilities of word order are interesting. One just has to be careful not to jump to conclusions and to not make a defined judgement based on their interpretation of what those choices mean because there are always exceptions, lost in translations, and bias.
Such a great discussion. Thank you so much for capturing and uploading it. I was very pleasantly surprised when it showed up in my subscription feed. It is now depriving me from sleep though!
DEPRIVING?? It (or rather Chomsky) made me doze of even though I didn't want to.
It's amazing (or self-evident) that intellectuals like these two guys are never an important part of the political "process". Noam Chomsky has written 100+ books on the subject, and is roundly criticized and/or dismissed when the forum is political. If intellect and open-mindedness became an important part of our public discourse, then an AMAZING culture could be realized in the USA. Everyone is so busy with "one-upmanship" and how much fucking MONEY can you earn, that being a thinking human being doesn't matter anymore. This sort of interview/debate/lecture CONVERSATION should be mandatory viewing for everyone who is registered to vote. We might be able to weed out the scum that don't deserve an elected "office". If you can't comprehend what great minds are talking about, then you don't HAVE a great mind and shouldn't be able to LEAD what you can't follow.
I'm 58 and I remember that, in high-school, a solid 50% of all kids (and their parents) believed that reading, learning, knowledge, science, art, and intellectualism in general, was decidedly "uncool". These people never changed their attitudes, they still believe "thinking" is uncool, but they back candidates, in a cult of personality fashion, and vote.
@@charleswettish8701 I'm 56, and pleasantly surprised that you replied to something I posted 7 years ago. Thanks.
@@mad_cat_1stHonestly, I hadn't noticed the date, but I certainly would have replied anyway. In the intervening years, we've seen how correct you were, 7 years ago. :)
Thank You !!! for this amazing interview
I feel that my mind just got an overdose of logic and coherent thoughts
very refreshing
What we see in intellectuals like Noam. It is easy to read Noam as a creature. Noam lays it all out with not his grand puzzle. We just seen all the missing pieces. Noam and Marx act superior, smart material linguistics that mean nothing. It is all internal constructed nonsense of made up linguistics. Nothing applies to the real world nor has it been applied in reality! All the
fantasies of Marx and Noam. Are monuments to failure. That is are main problem with intellectuals! It is great to have big creative fun wild thinking . However, if you can not get it to work in the real world after 175 years. Better stop thinking and start testing on a small scale then improve on working applications. Your super big untested big ideas just end up killing people. Like this video points out. ua-cam.com/video/UnkMA0l7Af8/v-deo.html
Noam's base-line soul and his books are based on big envy, anger and using big violence to obtain his untested contentment. Just like Marx. That is very easy to see. He covers it up with overly complex meaningless linguistics. None of his words are tested in reality. Call him on that fact and he will fall back into a corner. He is just a poet. Dreamers love mad poets.
I am an engineer. I am not great just one of millions in the world. If you want to make a bridge. Most of the time you base your idea on past bridges that worked. You refine the design based on geological tests. Wind tests, material testing, Finite Element Analysis testing. Live load testing, in-process construction testing ect. ect. Most engineers do not consider them self's intellectuals. nor do they like to be called intellectuals are all theory. An engineer is happy when he see's the mile long bridge across a bay transporting millions of cars and truck for many many years in safety. The Workers that build the bridge get the satisfaction of knowing they built that dang thing. These underlying applied realities to make something work do not exist in the minds of Noam, Marxists or most intellectuals.
"man was born free but lives everywhere in chains" was the quote, Lawrence
Same meaning...
Noam - most respectable living intellectual in the universe.
So this is perhaps the most interesting thing I've ever seen on youtube!
Marxist philosophy is just plain fun and inherently moral: This video Nails it!
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As a Canadian, I think the political slogan for the United States should be "Make America Smart Again". I think that Noam and Lawrence would agree with me.
Make America Think Harder, MATH, was Andrew Yang's slogan
Just once would be nice
How can a professional setting like this, where the thing they say are the most important, have such bad audio? I hope it wasn't this bad for the live audience.
I am grateful to Professor Noam Chomsky for informing me of United States diplomat George Kennan decision in 1947 to allow war torn Europe and European settler colonizers to rebuild on the back of Africa. I appreciate all that he has done. Professor Noam Chomskys information enabled me to better understand my reality.
Prof. Noam Chomsky - what a fascinating and remarkable intellect !!!
Hey big respect to the people involved in putting a screen up for people who have hearing disabilities
That has to be the most beautiful introduction I have ever heard.
Thanks so much for sharing this.
Love the content but why in lots of these videos can they not sort the sound out in advance? It's hard to listen to them without hearing all the high frequencies being swept and having a constant frequency ringing as they speak.
A really, really productive and illuminating exchange. How nice to see how Krauss, the great cosmo-monologist, submits to the true discipline of interviewing, tapping into Chomsky's mind with the just the right questions, knowing when to defer, when to challenge.
He's not giving a physics lecture here, oddly enough... And may I ask just what the fuck he's supposed to do, being a cosmologist, but monologue on cosmology? That's his job...and I'd rather have my fingernails pulled off than listen to Chomsky for 2 more minutes, since even on his own subject he's soporific when he's not being inaccurate, or even downright bloodless.
I love listening to Chomsky speak, such a deep intellectual old spirit
To know within yourself before knowing any others! We are human beings!
Please make sure the folks running sound get the training they need or are replaced with folks that know what they're doing.
What we see in intellectuals like Noam. It is easy to read Noam as a creature. Noam lays it all out with not his grand puzzle. We just seen all the missing pieces. Noam and Marx act superior, smart material linguistics that mean nothing. It is all internal constructed nonsense of made up linguistics. Nothing applies to the real world nor has it been applied in reality! All the
fantasies of Marx and Noam. Are monuments to failure. That is are main problem with intellectuals! It is great to have big creative fun wild thinking . However, if you can not get it to work in the real world after 175 years. Better stop thinking and start testing on a small scale then improve on working applications. Your super big untested big ideas just end up killing people. Like this video points out. ua-cam.com/video/UnkMA0l7Af8/v-deo.html
Noam's base-line soul and his books are based on big envy, anger and using big violence to obtain his untested contentment. Just like Marx. That is very easy to see. He covers it up with overly complex meaningless linguistics. None of his words are tested in reality. Call him on that fact and he will fall back into a corner. He is just a poet. Dreamers love mad poets.
I am an engineer. I am not great just one of millions in the world. If you want to make a bridge. Most of the time you base your idea on past bridges that worked. You refine the design based on geological tests. Wind tests, material testing, Finite Element Analysis testing. Live load testing, in-process construction testing ect. ect. Most engineers do not consider them self's intellectuals. nor do they like to be called intellectuals are all theory. An engineer is happy when he see's the mile long bridge across a bay transporting millions of cars and truck for many many years in safety. The Workers that build the bridge get the satisfaction of knowing they built that dang thing. These underlying applied realities to make something work do not exist in the minds of Noam, Marxists or most intellectuals.
could you put ShileyFilms this video with spanish subtitle? or the option to automatic youtube translation? is very hard as a english secon language understand most of it. Thanks!
i am very lucky to be able to watch his discussion on this channel. I just want to underline his last statement that :
"we have to make a distinction here between individual rasionality and the institutional rasionality"
and his views on today's climate change issue:
"you don't have to be a climate scientist to understand this much about what's going on"
very thoughtful and enlightening. understanding his thoughts requires a clear thinking and understanding the context of the discussion.
may he always be given health. 🤲🙏🏼
I love watching Krauss act towards Noam, the same way I act when watching Krauss!
Me tooooo
At 1:22:30, Chomsky says ISIS didn't come from nowhere, but rather from our invasion of Iraq, which was "imposing sectarian divisions that barely existed." Could someone please explain to me, an opponent of our invasion of Iraq from the very beginning, how we "imposed" sectarian divisions, and how these divisions had not previously existed for hundreds of years and were still there in a dormant form?
Chuck Turchick I didn't mean that Iraq was "imposing sectarian divisions...," but that Chomsky said our invasion of Iraq was what imposed these sectarian divisions.
Chuck
The overall definition of secularism is to divide church from state. I don't understand when you say "how these divisions had not previously existed for hundreds of years and were still there in a dormant form". So the dormant form must have come about before the hundreds of years when those divisions had not previously existed. If America imposed sectarian divisions it is only because they want no morality to get in the way of their killing millions of people. They want to divide the state from the religion.
Otherwise, Iraq was about the taking of resources, just like every other false flag that the nazis, called the american government, have created just before each war.
And you are?
This is one of the subjects Chomsky gets correct. He's referring to the Yinon Plan (1982) to destabilize the region along sectarian, religious and ethnic lines picked up by the Neocons and modified in Richard Perle's Clean Break report and later thinly disguised in the PNAC plan running America foreign policy in the middle east (which has been designed by Israel since 1967 according to Yitzhak Rabin); funding and supporting radicals like Al Qaeda and ISIS is essential to this and it's well known now America and allies are doing this now in Syria (as of Sept 19, 2018). This project for 'Greater Israel' is based on a rabbinic interpretation of the land promised to Abraham's seed (Gen 15.18) and misapplied to themselves rather than the messiah whom they reject, Yeshua Jesus and therefore those in covenant with Him (cf Ps 118.22, Mat 21.42ff, Gal 3.16-19, Rom 9.8, Hos 1.9-10)
Yeah, Chomsky isn't well thought out on Islamic states and their problems. Even when it comes to human perceptions, he discounts Richard Dawkins work by making a strawman of Richards coined term "Meme". Chomsky is B-level when it comes to the study of the propagation of useful communicable strategies in social-cultural structures (meme-idea survival).
This man's name strikes fear in the hearts of audio technicians everywhere! More feedback than a rock n roll show here!
""...When the syrens tried to stop Ulysses, a great calm came over the sea. But "profound calm is perhaps more awful than the storm itself", Mellville´s Moby Dick teaches us, and the most tremendous storm almost always bursts out from the cloudless sky, like an exploding bomb over a dazed and sleepy town." The fact is that when Ulysses´ ship passed near that island , "the wind ceased " and a honeyed song reached the ears of the hero, a song that tried to bewitch him, to make him forget who he was, to fill him with new experiences instead. Those who stay with the sirens, leave "knowing more things".
One hundred years ago, in 1912, there was also a great calm when the Titanic sank. This calm was the result of the optimism of the sirens, then positivsm and scientism, which for at least several decades had announced that the world was progressing relentlessly and had promised to know enough to be able to give comfort to all.""
I would Add 9/11 perfect day not a cloud in the sky then Chaos
This is just great thanks for posting - along with Hitchens Harris Dawkins when he’s not being exasperating, Bart Erdmann Bishop Spong these 2 are my faves and experiencing them together having a real dialogue just f in makes me happy . The perfect thing to watch after a bowl of Nightmare Cookie nugs!
Out spoken intellect, how refreshing in this dark time
It's a crime that I haven't read any Chomsky yet -- but part of the problem is that he's had such a prolific career that it's rather daunting to figure out where to start. Krauss said he assigned himself five books to read in preparation for their talk, so I'd like to put that call out to any Chomskyphiles who might be reading.
What are the 5 (more or less) must-read Chomsky books -- or with which books should a new reader start their trek?
brian177 "Failed States"
Depends on what interests you, for his political philosophy 'Chomsky on anarchism' is a good read. Talks a lot about the Spanish revolution and about the possibilities of organizing human society amongst other subjects. It's very well written with sources as varied as conservative economists to George Orwell. It'll also be good for you if the line, authority should be challenged and if it's illegitimate ultimately dismantled and replaced with... because that's the philosophy of anarchism. If you want to read about the media and how the state gets people to go along with unpopular decisions read 'manufacturing consent'. As for foreign policy I must admit a limited knowledge on his vast library(he has written over 100 books after all)... it depends on which foreign policy action you're looking for.... he's got everything from works on Vietnam, middle eastern affairs, Latin American atrocities committed either directly or indirectly by the u.s, I'll let someone else take this one... if you want his linguistics I must admit near ignorance on his writings. He's got some good essays on his website on whichever subject interests you.
Can you tell us the name of the book you are discussing for god sake? i mean i looked in the comments and in the intro don't find anything
It occurred to me,at the conclusion of the discussion that Bob Dylan's line "You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows" would have been good music to exit by.
The best teacher I ever had was in grade 11 and 12. Allan McPhail taught history and geography and most of his classes merged the two. Many of his classes would begin by his making a statement which I would challenge and the discussion/debate would begin. We would challenge each other and discuss a wide range of topics as one lead into another and the rest of the class just listened until the class was over. He was the only teacher that ever really challenged me and I always remember him with great respect. The worst teacher I ever had was the history teacher I had the year before I et Mr. McPhail. That fool would copy the history text onto the blackboard verbatm and expect us to copy it into our work books. At the end of each segment of the school year he would collect our notebooks and mark them I suppose on neatness. I never had one to hand in because only a fool would do that. He told me he was going to fail me and I told him he couldn't because I planned to ace his exams which I did because I loved history and that fool couldn't spoil my love affair with the subject. I always thought that if I wasn't so bored with school that I dropped out after grade 12, I might have been a good teacher.
@UCo4_-gnvkI8goMiIdhD7tJw I am Ronzig the Wizard and many miracles have guided me through a long life. But my time is coming to an end and others will have to take my place.
krauss should've chilled out with the quotes and kept it more of an open dialogue.
“We’ll get to that.” Did he? Did I miss it? Okay! I’ll watch the second part.
Thanks for sharing these awsome videos with these great guys.
I have watched this 3 times now and im still fascinated.
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I saw the names "Chomsky" and "Krauss" and said YEAH!!!
My click finger is faster than your's...just Chomsky and clicked already😀
🙋🏻same!
What I would do to be in that room with these amazing intellectuals!
Here’s a novel idea, QUESTION them.
This is recorded live, its not a movie, deal with the feed back and improper gain, the discussion is far more important than sound quality.
Y so much feedback? Reverb is awesome though. What's the name of the theater?
Dear Shirley, I don't know who you are, but thank you for uploading this conversation.
Thank you for this much needed Scientific Discussion !
What we see in intellectuals like Noam. It is easy to read Noam as a creature. Noam lays it all out with not his grand puzzle. We just seen all the missing pieces. Noam and Marx act superior, smart material linguistics that mean nothing. It is all internal constructed nonsense of made up linguistics. Nothing applies to the real world nor has it been applied in reality! All the
fantasies of Marx and Noam. Are monuments to failure. That is are main problem with intellectuals! It is great to have big creative fun wild thinking . However, if you can not get it to work in the real world after 175 years. Better stop thinking and start testing on a small scale then improve on working applications. Your super big untested big ideas just end up killing people. Like this video points out. ua-cam.com/video/UnkMA0l7Af8/v-deo.html
Noam's base-line soul and his books are based on big envy, anger and using big violence to obtain his untested contentment. Just like Marx. That is very easy to see. He covers it up with overly complex meaningless linguistics. None of his words are tested in reality. Call him on that fact and he will fall back into a corner. He is just a poet. Dreamers love mad poets.
I am an engineer. I am not great just one of millions in the world. If you want to make a bridge. Most of the time you base your idea on past bridges that worked. You refine the design based on geological tests. Wind tests, material testing, Finite Element Analysis testing. Live load testing, in-process construction testing ect. ect. Most engineers do not consider them self's intellectuals. nor do they like to be called intellectuals are all theory. An engineer is happy when he see's the mile long bridge across a bay transporting millions of cars and truck for many many years in safety. The Workers that build the bridge get the satisfaction of knowing they built that dang thing. These underlying applied realities to make something work do not exist in the minds of Noam, Marxists or most intellectuals.
I wonder if Noam knows the "woah" moments his listeners have, he doesnt seem to be schooling you. Hes always so humble like having a casual conversation lol
He's a linguist and expert communicator. I bet he does.
He reads almost every academic book printed. That keeps him pretty busy, I bet. The joke Krause made at the beginning. I had to read five books a night for a week, just to feel comfortable coming into this talk. That's the base line for a conversation, let alone keeping up with him. Look at those notes.
Fantastic! Thank you for sharing.
I'm glad I can actually hear Noam in this video. So often he seems to mumble and speak so softly that I have to turn the volume all the way up and quickly lower it whenever anyone else begins to speak.
Noam Chomsky, as usual, contributes some very valuable insights in this talk. He can be extremely critical of U.S. policy--because it is often very ugly--tho many just refuse to aknowledge this truth, prefering to believe the RA RA USA stuff they heard in youth. And I am glad to see that Lawrence Krauss is alive to these issues.
I was there! It was a great time.Origins dialogues are some of the coolest!