The defendants were trying to manipulate their responses in the hope that it would help their case. U don’t do that in front of JJ and not look stupid.
I think people are so clueless about the law. Like the guy who printed out laws that bicyclists have to adhere to in his state after running him over when he was a lane designated for bicyclists. Like Judge Judy would have seen it and said "Oh, now that I've read bicyclists should always wear a helmet and look both ways, it's his fault you ran him over." But they have to prepare for a case and if they don't have a legitimate defense, they just bend whatever they can find to prove their case. Also in cases where someone obviously damages their property and they even admitted to it in a police report but then say "No, I didn't" or "How do you know that damage wasn't already there?" as if they can give probable doubt like it's some murder case.
JJ had been around long enough that you would think litigants would know better than cop attitude with her. Yet, they continue to do it even when JJ says it’s not going to go well for them…..
The photographer is very polite, respectful and honest. I would use her business if I lived in the area in a heartbeat. I'll bet if she has a family they are model citizens.
There are some local laws or regulations judges might not be aware of. It's quite common to point out the existence of those laws if they seem to get overlooked. But you don't do it in a 'well acktually' way like mum Karen did here
@@erickmatamoros1853 The whole concept that 'everyone has to know the law' is unrealistic, even for judges. A judge in arbitration court (like Judy) can try cases all over te country in all kinds of jurisdictions.
@@erickmatamoros1853 you are the one complaining about telling judges about the law. I'm telling you that pointing out lesser known relevant legislation is normal part of arguing a case
Both times I've hired a photographer, the contracts CLEARLY stated that they retained the rights to use the pictures, and I received some free ones. OR, I could pay a bit more and would receive the rights with my photos.
As a semi professional photographer...... Wow.... but there is one thing I stand on. Long time friends are not. Always, always, always get a contract/written agreement regarding the free photo sessions in exchange for business advertising. You never know when deals can go south, especially when the work is already done.
Exactly. I had pics done of my granddaughter and the photographer wanted to use some for her portfolio but I had to sign a release for her to be able to do so.
I agree, except it depends on the friends. I have a good family friend who is a photographer, and when we use her we always pay her full fee and tip afterwards. Good friends will never shortchange or try to barter for your art, at least that's my humble opinion.
When you’re a child and you watch Judge Judy, you think that she is just some mean cranky old lady. Then as you grow older, and you start working for the public, you realize you side with that mean cranky old lady.
People have asked me how in the hell can you watch that bitch? My reply is, she is sworn to uphold the law. And some of those people, I don't blame her for getting mad with them.
I always use a Release Form that the customer signs indicating that I have rights to these photos for advertising. In return the customer gets a dozen photos.
If the customer doesn't want you to retain the rights & they're paying money for portraits, is that ever a problem? I'm asking seriously. Besides I.D., the last portrait I've had was 30+ years ago for my high school year book. Will you work with customers you don't want you to retain the rights to their photos? Will any pro photographers? Before digital cameras I guess the customer could request the negatives, but now with digital cameras.... 🤷♂️
Jim Jones sometimes that is requested and I am okay with it. Usually it is a boudoir or lingerie shoot that the customer only wants her husband to see. It doesn’t happen often, but in these cases, I agree because I have plenty of other photos to advertise my services.
The photos were taken by a business for free so what did the defendant expect? I have paid for professional photo shoots for things like headshots, model portfolios and album cover. Although I paid for the pictures to be taken that still didn’t give me copyright to the photos. So the photographer and I had to draw up a contract where I paid so they relinquish the rights to me. Otherwise I could have been sued for duplicating the photos. Ever notice when you go places like Walgreens they won’t duplicate pro photos without documentation you have the authority? On the other hand I’m also a photographer/videographer but because I mostly did this as an employee of companies the companies own the rights to all my work not me.
Um.. From what I have always known, photographers have the rights to photos you allow them to take. They can use them as they please. Especially if the images are free. Always strings attached
This needs to be in r/choosingbeggars. Her logic before the shoot: "I'll pay for a family shoot with exposure" Her logic after seeing the ad: "HOW DARE YOU SHOW MY SON'S PHOTOS FOR FREE!"
As a photographer, I hate people like this. I also retain the rights to all my images and can use them as I please. Do I respect my clients? Absolutely. But I do have the right to use any photo I take in advertising my business. People are nuts. She got free photos done for her and she agreed to do it for advertising. I just can't. The Mum and her don't have two braincells to rub together between em.
I would never do business with you if you would assume total ownership over a product I have paid you to produce. If you want license to the images I am paying for then that is a separate clause in the contract and would require some accommodation or remuneration.
@@anacondaadultlearningcente4522 That's nice? As a Canadian I legally hold the rights to all my photos. Like I said literally above, I respect my clients, but I do have the right to use my photos as I choose since they are my artistic property. That is the law. Would I use them if a client specifically asked me not to and we had come to that agreement before the photos were taken? No, I wouldn't. But legally I retain the rights to all of my photos.
Imagine someone suing you because they were in the background of your selfie that you took in a public place. Like that’s why the copyright always goes to the photographer not the subject.
I’m getting so irritated by this lady that she just doesn’t understand what JJ explains her like 12 times. Such a stubborn woman, ugh. I will never want to be in contact with someone like her. So exhausting 😂
I do think there is a difference where she uses the pictures. If her son is the face of her company and all over the internet instead of one small poster on one small wall in a rural mall. It DOES make a difference and the photographer should have stated what she was gonna do with it. I would give permission to let my child be a model as one of the examples, but not as the face of her business.
If that mother was intending to use her child for modeling purposes, she pretty shot herself in the foot now. All the modeling agencies are going to watch this and decide not to work with her or her children ever again. Congrats to being black balled out of the modeling industry forever.
I think the mom just wanted final say on which pictures she wanted the plaintiff to use for advertising. If I were a mother, I would also want that final approval on what images of my child go out to the world. But that needed to be clear in writing before the photo session. I'm not sure what the plaintiff is suing for since the segment did not reveal that.
Many years ago my company had a photographer come in to do pictures for a company brochure. I signed a waiver to use my image, was paid $10 by the photographer, and that was it. Ontario, Canada.
I had a photographer in the plaza of my business ask to take pictures of my child. I just assumed it would be for her catalog...something else happened in this casefor sure. Defendant is mad about something else
Defendant says plaintiff didn’t have a right to post the pictures. Ma’am, what exactly do you think copyright is? The photo owns the image, not the subject of the photograph.
Horrible... just Horrible... if that was her friend, why take her to court over pictures? Let me guess... was jealous that she started making money and now her and her mom wanted her money. Smh! Think it's mainly her mom who started the drama. Bet daughter was fine with everything, until her mom started given her feedback and input.
When JJ says, “Just a second” it means it’s over for you.
lol lol!
Always 🤣🤣🤣
I read this and then she said it Lmaooo 😩😂😂
😂
Yep. It's usually followed by we're done!
Did the grandmother really try to tell the Judge the law? Big mistake.
The defendants were trying to manipulate their responses in the hope that it would help their case. U don’t do that in front of JJ and not look stupid.
@@earleenvierra6558 they were warned!
Multiple times, I believe!
Was bout to pass but WHAT
There’s many ways around the law. But when you start your case with free . Yea
I think people are so clueless about the law. Like the guy who printed out laws that bicyclists have to adhere to in his state after running him over when he was a lane designated for bicyclists. Like Judge Judy would have seen it and said "Oh, now that I've read bicyclists should always wear a helmet and look both ways, it's his fault you ran him over." But they have to prepare for a case and if they don't have a legitimate defense, they just bend whatever they can find to prove their case. Also in cases where someone obviously damages their property and they even admitted to it in a police report but then say "No, I didn't" or "How do you know that damage wasn't already there?" as if they can give probable doubt like it's some murder case.
Oh that signature bop in her chair makes my day every time 🤣
I love it too. And when she says “just a second”
@@DJ-bg3de or when she says “hey!” And smacks the podium surface🤣🤣🤣
@@yolandejacobs6881 🤣
Hahaha so true
She's so cute 🥲
Oh goodness, another annoying defendant. Let me guess, the friends had a falling out and the defendant is now being petty.
Least she coulda done is not stare down the whole time and give us a massive double chin the whole time. Surprised she didn't eat her kid.
So right!
« former friends » makes me so sad.
Omg 😳 you so right omg ttyl y’all
👍
Attitude written all over mom's face. 🙄🙄🙄
Ohhh that's what that is
What's that thing under her chin?
JJ had been around long enough that you would think litigants would know better than cop attitude with her. Yet, they continue to do it even when JJ says it’s not going to go well for them…..
That's just her frumpy face 🤣🤣🤷🏾♂️
@@mybrothaskeeper4156 🤣🤣🤣
@@wontsufferfools9332 that’s Peter Griffin’s chin
The photographer is very polite, respectful and honest. I would use her business if I lived in the area in a heartbeat. I'll bet if she has a family they are model citizens.
Iiiooiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo❤
If the son looks angelic, then he looks like his dad 🙈
💀💀
Epic!!!!!
Ha ha I agree
😂
Ohhhhh snap!!!!
Her posture HURTS me
My upper back was killing me lol
I used to hate judge Judy. But now I realize what a great judge she is.
Same here 🤚🏽🤚🏽
How could anyone hate Judge Judy? 😮
You became a grown woman
me as well!
@@ShichibukaiKuma its insulting but funny. 😂 thanks for the laugh.
I love when people who haven't been to law school try to tell a judge about law.
There are some local laws or regulations judges might not be aware of. It's quite common to point out the existence of those laws if they seem to get overlooked. But you don't do it in a 'well acktually' way like mum Karen did here
@@An0niem4 if that was the case don’t go to a judge outside of your jurisdiction. Don’t be dumb
@@erickmatamoros1853 The whole concept that 'everyone has to know the law' is unrealistic, even for judges. A judge in arbitration court (like Judy) can try cases all over te country in all kinds of jurisdictions.
@@An0niem4 if that is the case why continue to complain
@@erickmatamoros1853 you are the one complaining about telling judges about the law. I'm telling you that pointing out lesser known relevant legislation is normal part of arguing a case
Both times I've hired a photographer, the contracts CLEARLY stated that they retained the rights to use the pictures, and I received some free ones. OR, I could pay a bit more and would receive the rights with my photos.
I'm happy y'all saying this. I will never let my child have photos taken professionally.
as you state, you clearly had a contract. Contracts protect both parties for cases like this.
As a semi professional photographer...... Wow.... but there is one thing I stand on. Long time friends are not. Always, always, always get a contract/written agreement regarding the free photo sessions in exchange for business advertising. You never know when deals can go south, especially when the work is already done.
Exactly. I had pics done of my granddaughter and the photographer wanted to use some for her portfolio but I had to sign a release for her to be able to do so.
I agree, except it depends on the friends. I have a good family friend who is a photographer, and when we use her we always pay her full fee and tip afterwards. Good friends will never shortchange or try to barter for your art, at least that's my humble opinion.
@@kimberlyf.4130 people like that are increasingly difficult to find!
I hope your friend realizes how lucky she is!
☮️💜
Yeeeeup. Always have contracts in place when you're doing freelance work.
I love judge Judy 😂
She doesn’t take any BS
Why did the defendant wear a cocktail gown to court lol
Some people think dress nice means dress like you’re going to a party. Really a blouse and either a skirt or pants is all you need.
At least grab a cardigan or something…
@@courtany7871 For court, yeah but this is TV. Gotta make the most out of your 15 mins, you might not get another!
Screaming 😂
It’s the Illinois law.
13 grandkids. Damn JJ, that's a big ole family :)
right, i love big families
But imagine the poor guy who had to 'work' with JJ to get those kids.He probably was scared as hell.😟
@@exoressdelivers70 She is actually really kind.
Judge Judy has 5 kids. If you divide 13 grandkids among 5 kids that's 2.6 kids for each.
@@jaanzaz2000 still a lot of kids tho
Lol why does the mum stand like that making a double chin. Her attitude is frustrating
She just had to bring up " ILLINOIS LAW " as if it was important (it wasn't) - the mother should have stayed home.
Because unless she stands with a specific stature, she will have multiple chins. She's just a fat gal. The chins cannot be avoided
😂 not the double chin!
She thought maybe that angle work better to cover her chin 🤔 🤣
These comments are hilarious 😂
The defendant could not have choose a worse top to wear. I’m feeling suffocated just watching her.
I like how JJ warns people to think b4 u speak bcause if u don't I'm going to make u look like an idiot.🤣🤣
When you’re a child and you watch Judge Judy, you think that she is just some mean cranky old lady. Then as you grow older, and you start working for the public, you realize you side with that mean cranky old lady.
People have asked me how in the hell can you watch that bitch? My reply is, she is sworn to uphold the law. And some of those people, I don't blame her for getting mad with them.
The mother was so dense. Wow. (Also you could tell from her body language that she wasn't comfortable in her fancy outfit.)
🤣 savage
Right. She's standing there all hunched over like Quasimodo.
@@tracyd693 Quasimodo 😂😂😂😂
😂
That is fancy?
1st time I've ever seen someone keep their mouth shut when they were clearly winning 😄
I always use a Release Form that the customer signs indicating that I have rights to these photos for advertising. In return the customer gets a dozen photos.
Smart. But then...where's the drama? You mean you just conduct business like a sane and professional adult? Wow, what a concept...🤔
😂😂😂
If the customer doesn't want you to retain the rights & they're paying money for portraits, is that ever a problem? I'm asking seriously. Besides I.D., the last portrait I've had was 30+ years ago for my high school year book. Will you work with customers you don't want you to retain the rights to their photos? Will any pro photographers? Before digital cameras I guess the customer could request the negatives, but now with digital cameras.... 🤷♂️
Jim Jones sometimes that is requested and I am okay with it. Usually it is a boudoir or lingerie shoot that the customer only wants her husband to see. It doesn’t happen often, but in these cases, I agree because I have plenty of other photos to advertise my services.
@@karljacobson7811 Cool. I was just curious. Thank you.
“Illinois law says…”
Lady, you CHOSE to get a free trip to California to have your case heard! To quote the great Judge Judy: “WHO CARES!”
Case, shmase. I am in love with the grandmother's crystal necklace!!
lmaoo she said “ you weren’t there don’t speak✋🏾”🤣🤣
The photos were taken by a business for free so what did the defendant expect? I have paid for professional photo shoots for things like headshots, model portfolios and album cover. Although I paid for the pictures to be taken that still didn’t give me copyright to the photos. So the photographer and I had to draw up a contract where I paid so they relinquish the rights to me. Otherwise I could have been sued for duplicating the photos. Ever notice when you go places like Walgreens they won’t duplicate pro photos without documentation you have the authority?
On the other hand I’m also a photographer/videographer but because I mostly did this as an employee of companies the companies own the rights to all my work not me.
The advertisement was the offer, and she accepted when she agreed to have her child model for the photo shoot… never try to teach the law to a judge 😂
Mahalko’s posture is so pretty! It’s so curvy n leans forward!!
It's crazy how the lady can think she knows more than Judge Judy
Her face even slouches!
This has been a ruling in many court cases. The subject of the photo never owns the rights. The photographer has those rights.
Can’t she just be President already? That would be fantastic. Probably the only person that can save America lol.
Um.. From what I have always known, photographers have the rights to photos you allow them to take. They can use them as they please. Especially if the images are free. Always strings attached
Like the monkey naruto en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_dispute
If you don’t have to speak during a Judge Judy case, you’re probably winning.
Her mom has been fighting her battles her whole life
These ppl always think they know the law and "rules"
This needs to be in r/choosingbeggars.
Her logic before the shoot: "I'll pay for a family shoot with exposure"
Her logic after seeing the ad: "HOW DARE YOU SHOW MY SON'S PHOTOS FOR FREE!"
Never go full Karen
"Do you have an angelic looking child???" "Yes???" Notice how her answer sounded like a question too.🤣🤣🤣
0:23 aw gawd. It's Sarah Huckabeesanders
I was thinking the same thing 🤔
As a photographer, I hate people like this. I also retain the rights to all my images and can use them as I please. Do I respect my clients? Absolutely. But I do have the right to use any photo I take in advertising my business. People are nuts. She got free photos done for her and she agreed to do it for advertising. I just can't. The Mum and her don't have two braincells to rub together between em.
I would never do business with you if you would assume total ownership over a product I have paid you to produce. If you want license to the images I am paying for then that is a separate clause in the contract and would require some accommodation or remuneration.
@@anacondaadultlearningcente4522 the law says that the photographer has the copyright
@@anacondaadultlearningcente4522 That's nice? As a Canadian I legally hold the rights to all my photos. Like I said literally above, I respect my clients, but I do have the right to use my photos as I choose since they are my artistic property. That is the law. Would I use them if a client specifically asked me not to and we had come to that agreement before the photos were taken? No, I wouldn't. But legally I retain the rights to all of my photos.
@@jukebox1096 which law? Which country?
@@HollyBerry0255 I still have the right to not do business with you based on your business criteria.
Judge Judy is the original OG of the law! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Judge Judy is simply brilliant she is so smart. I’d love to sit down with her and have a cup of tea. 😂
I love her. I want to get a beer with Judge Judy.
Imagine someone suing you because they were in the background of your selfie that you took in a public place. Like that’s why the copyright always goes to the photographer not the subject.
I’m getting so irritated by this lady that she just doesn’t understand what JJ explains her like 12 times. Such a stubborn woman, ugh. I will never want to be in contact with someone like her. So exhausting 😂
I worked with this defendant in retail during high school. She was a lied then, no surprise to see her here.
Photographer holds the rights to the negatives, unless specified in writing. Its the photographers work.
The defendant has already annoyed me.
I don't think I could sit in the same room as that Mom for more than 10 minutes
I do think there is a difference where she uses the pictures. If her son is the face of her company and all over the internet instead of one small poster on one small wall in a rural mall. It DOES make a difference and the photographer should have stated what she was gonna do with it.
I would give permission to let my child be a model as one of the examples, but not as the face of her business.
She wanted free photos. That's it!
Defendant: "I liked the photo, but I'm complaining about her using them for her advertising to our agreement for some reason."
NO Clue about Copyright Law, LOL. The photographer owns the copyright to those photos ... end of discussion.
"Unless you are stupid?" Ha ha ha....
I love how savage she is
People can’t answer simple yes or no questions
If that mother was intending to use her child for modeling purposes, she pretty shot herself in the foot now. All the modeling agencies are going to watch this and decide not to work with her or her children ever again. Congrats to being black balled out of the modeling industry forever.
Lucky for the kid
‘ Don’t speak’ 👏👏👏
It’s the no neck for me.
No neck. No posture no waist. Stand up straight for Pete’s sake!!!
The plaintiff looks zannied out 😵💫
"You and your MODA!!!" LOL
Mind boggling that people would appear in front of millions so they can show their ignorance.
Houston, we have a problem.....what a waste of time...the mother has too much free time. she needs more babies
No…… please spare the poor children. They shouldn’t have to have this kind of stupid mother 😭
or an extra chin (as some have commented).
Hey everyone stay blessed 🙌 😇 🙏
Some these blondes look like they've had TOO much fun 😆
Oh the horror that facebook has brought upon people's lives yet people never learn.
Help her get clients......means advertising
Judge Judy knows how to deal with Karens better than anyone else in the world.
@4:56 Alexa, which way do I turn to get onto the freeway?
I think the mom just wanted final say on which pictures she wanted the plaintiff to use for advertising. If I were a mother, I would also want that final approval on what images of my child go out to the world. But that needed to be clear in writing before the photo session. I'm not sure what the plaintiff is suing for since the segment did not reveal that.
Yes that makes sense
Yeah, they don't mention why she's suing until the next part lol
Many years ago my company had a photographer come in to do pictures for a company brochure. I signed a waiver to use my image, was paid $10 by the photographer, and that was it. Ontario, Canada.
Yes this is a ridiculous case
Ma’am what don’t you understand 🤦🏾♀️
If that child is gorgeous then she isn't his biological mother.
She didn't pay for the photos. Period.
Her attire is not very appropriate for Court..
She would not take free sessions for nothing!!! Of course it’s for something (advertising) 🤦🏻♀️
I far prefer Judge Judy in her later posts, she doesn’t take shit and she’s more to the point. Love it!
I had a photographer in the plaza of my business ask to take pictures of my child. I just assumed it would be for her catalog...something else happened in this casefor sure. Defendant is mad about something else
“Do you have an ANGELIC looking child 👦”
Mom: yes 🤷🏻♀️
Who ever writes these titles needs to spell check.
The hand moves of Judge Judy are wild
I try not to judge based on a person's appearance, but defendant really needs to not lean her head so far back.
Victim victim I declare lying lying everywhere
JJ shut them down
ELLENOIS LAW!
Photographer retains the right
“it’s not gonna go well for you!” 😂sounds like something i’d hear in a movie superhero movie
Photog? Someone was lazy lmao
Officer Byrd is the Best
Wow, this defendant is on another planet that has no logic... Bring her back to earth, JJ!!
Defendant says plaintiff didn’t have a right to post the pictures. Ma’am, what exactly do you think copyright is? The photo owns the image, not the subject of the photograph.
First mistake is thinking u can outsmart judge Judy
The mother and the defendant are very annoying.
I wish I was as smart as Judge Judy
Mom is a piece of work.
Horrible... just Horrible... if that was her friend, why take her to court over pictures? Let me guess... was jealous that she started making money and now her and her mom wanted her money. Smh! Think it's mainly her mom who started the drama. Bet daughter was fine with everything, until her mom started given her feedback and input.
How stubborn and thick headed can people be.
If she had got a cut she would have been alright period
Strange case