As a Jays fan, i’d much rather have the team stay in that area instead of moving out to the suburbs and building a nicer stadium. Access to public transit has always been a critically underrated factor in judging stadiums considering it’s ability to remove the stress of being stuck in car traffic for two hours JUST to get out of the parking lot (ahem Buffalo Bills). All of Torontos sports teams have access to multiple forms of transit, and the city is investing to improve transit in order to accommodate for the increased usage over time (take the Ontario Line that goes to BMO field as an example). Because of the baseball and hockey arena’s proximity to Union Station (second busiest train station in North America), people can effectively get to the stadium from the regional GO trains, the subway, the local streetcar lines downtown and even through the UP Airport Express train that goes directly from Pearson Airport to Union (good for visiting fans potentially if they need to get to the stadium quickly after flying in). Having all of these transit options are vital when it comes to moving 45K people into and out of a dense area like a sports stadium!
Eh-men. I live in Barrie and can get down to the game by train in about the same time as driving/parking/walking. With the new outfield district I can get get to the game and attend for 60 bucks ($42 American- for context) and I live 100km(60mi) away. And since I saved a shit load by not needing Gieko, I can afford 12 dollar beers.
If the skydome were to be built it would have to be in the same location, so the jays would have to play at a temp stadium for the 10 or so years it takes to tare down and rebuild it. But i don't see a reason why, just reno the skydome and its all good.
@@twocansams6335 well, the offense (Vladdy in particular) exploded in Buffalo lol I wouldn't mind a full year(s) of that. Vladdy was on pace to hit 41 HR in Buffalo/Dunedin in 2021 - in just the home games. (He had 21hr in 42 games) His numbers took a huge hit after they returned to Toronto. He was well on pace to beat 61 hr in 2021. But yeah, can't lose that location, it's amazing. Renos are just fine.
Citi Field is easily accessible by the 7 line - there's a stop called "Mets - Willets Point". There isn't much to do around the ballpark yet but give it a couple of years. The city, NYCFC and others have some great plans for the neighborhood.
Citi Field was #18 according to the metrics I used. However I find Citi Field to be an even better ballpark than Yankee Stadium. Citi Field could easily work it’s way up to the top 10.
@@cities4ppl. You should take a look at yankee stadium and citifield again because both are easily accessible via mass transit in nyc with 5 trains to Yankee stadium and 2 to citi field.
The Go Train in Toronto is a great way to get to a Blue Jays game. However, I do think on game days they should have a Rogers Center stop, instead of having to go to Union Station, and walking back to the Stadium. I wonder if they could do some renovations, and make a couple large stairways from the tracks to the stadium?
So the governing body of GO Transit “Metrolinx” has plans to build a Spadina GO station right near where the SkyDome is. Unfortunately for various reasons (it’s kinda a rabbit hole to go down so I won’t go into much detail) it only serves the Barrie line trains which only serve the northern regions of the GTA and runs less frequently compared to the Lakeshore West and Kitchener lines. It could hopefully change but there’s no plans on it right now. On the bright side, the revamping of Exhibition and the new Ontario Line station at Queen and Spadina will help to reduce the GO train congestion at Union Station after games. Exhibition is going to be turned into a mini Union station and will handle higher frequencies of GO trains + Ontario Line in addition to being able to physically handle massive crowds compared to how it currently is rn where the tunnels and platforms are too packed and slow moving after TFC games
@@jakestar121 Interesting, thanks for commenting. I'll have to look it up. I always found after games, walking back to Union was bad. If you miss a train, on the walk back, you have to wait an hour for the next one. That's not much fun at 11pm.
@@BWyatt76 ikwym. ya Skydome isn’t a perfect ballpark for pedestrians (it’s right next to the Gardiner after all). after driving out of the Buffalo Bills parking lot on game day, never again will I take transit access for granted lmaooo
@@jakestar121 Overall, I think getting to Rogers Center on the GO is positive, especially since I live in Burlington, but a couple things could make it even better.
Love T-Mobile Park. The pic you showed of the train is actually the Sounder commuter train. Link light rail has an underground station nearby though. And the Sounder runs trains to and from Seattle on game days. So close enough. :)
The only knock against Skydome's location is that it can definitely use more bars and restaurants outside of the stadium. Even on the north side, you still have to walk across a pedestrian bridge towards front street where there are plenty of restaurants buts its a minimum 5 minute walk from the stadium. However, other places like Wrigley and Fenway have restaurants literally across the street from the stadium which makes a big difference.
That's the trade off though. If you put a baseball stadium next to the biggest train-station in Canada, you're going to have to walk over the tracks. The Restaurants are plentiful, but you have to walk 5-10 mins. Or, get there early and go to st Louis bar and grill. It is 1 min away on Bremner.
The walk from the Skydome to Front street is about 2 minutes max unless you are built like a hobbit or the stadium is letting out and the crowd is at its densest. Considering there is a St. Louis, Boston Pizza, Wahlbergers & more all within a stones throw of the stadium, so your point isn’t really valid as it is either overly picky or simply ill informed.
@adellis24 who are you to invalid someone's opinion? I went to the very first game at skydome and have gone to twenty games every year so I have substantial experience. It sounds like you are the one that are ill informed and have not traveled to other ballparks to understand the proximity that I am referring to. Getting to front street from skydome won't take 2 minutes when you are leaving after a game and the pathways over the rail is crowded. The average person walks around 9-10 minutes per kilometer. This slows down considerably when walking with thousands of people...probably around 12 or 13 minutes per kilometer. Sure if you are leaving from gate 1(the closest gate) and walking to Boston Pizza where there is no crowding, it would take 3 minutes. But realistically, most people are walking 10+ minutes to bigger places like scattabush, jack astors, loose moose, earls, movies. They aren't generally going to tiny places like Wahlburgers.
LoanDepot Park would have made a good honorable mention. You can take the Metrorail to overtown station, which used to be called overtown/arena station, because the Miami Arena once stood in front of it. Once you get off the station you take the shuttle that takes you straight to the ballpark. There's also a trolley that takes you to the ballpark if you're coming from Northern Dade County by getting off civic center station. There's also the tri rail and brightline trains if you're coming from West Palm Beach or Broward. There are shops and restaurants around the ballpark area. And no parking pass needed to park in the garage. You pay for parking by phone or the parking app.
I looked at Miami for awhile but according to my data it’s ranked 23rd. It’s tough to compete with the cities that are more sense w ballparks in a central location.
@@cities4ppl I mean it's near downtown Miami. Where there are plenty of tourist attractions for visiting fans like Bayside, Jungle Island, and the beaches. I'm from Miami and been to the ballpark many times.
Busch Stadium is great but I used a little different methodology. Ultimately the walk, bike and transit score wasn’t quite up to snuff to crack the top 10.
As a White Sox fan, just curious on where Comiskey Park (I refuse to adhere to any other name) would be on this list. Yeah it has way too many parking lots, but it's also next to a subway line, a commuter train line, and within walking distance of multiple bus stops.
Surprised Comerica Park didn't make the list. Right outside downtown Detroit in the heart of the entertainment district. Accessible by both the people mover and the qLine rail line. Pedestrian friendly and bicycle accessibility improving. Several bus lines within 2 blocks with direct no transfer routes to all the suburbs. And while several small surface lots near the stadium, several parking structures quite cut down the footprint of parking. While maybe not top 5 worthy, it quite certainly fits this list.
According to my data - Comerica ranked just behind PNC & Camden who also didn’t make the list. Comerica would be top 10 with improved bike infrastructure.
Considering it's your background in this video, I was shocked that PNC wasn't on the list. Walk across the bridges from downtown or take the T or the water taxi. And once you're there you get the best view from any MLB park, with the Allegheny River in front of you and downtown as a backdrop.
@@omcnair it’s a list about ease of access for pedestrians instead of about the look of the ballpark. No water taxis will be as effective at transporting 30+K people out of a stadium to wherever they want to go in the city or region compared to the parks that are right next to high capacity subway stations or even being 10 min walk away from major transit terminals like Torontos Union Station
As a Mets fan for over 50 years I've developed reasonably tough skin, even as I'm repeatedly treated as an afterthought, but I don't know how CitField did not make this list. From a city (not outsized-town) standpoint it's hard to find a better For People MLB ballpark. The ballpark is not a "5-, 10,- or 15-minute walk" from transit: the 7 train's platforms exit to the ballpark's promenade. And the 7 train has stops at Times Square and Grand Central Station, meaning that virtually everyone in the city can get to the ballpark with one connection or fewer. ...
Several folks have brought this up. The transit score is 100 for Citi Field. It’s the walk and bike score that kept it out of the top 10. Transit, walk and bike were weighted equally.
@@cities4ppl Those factors should be weighted for each of the individual markets. "Transit" itself is a generic term which equates the NYC subway system to bus lines in Milwaukee, or the area north of Atlanta. Perhaps a couple of hundred fans would have trouble walking or biking to CitField, but the efficiency with which the 7 train is able move 30,000 or more fans is worth noting ...
As a dodgers fan, it’s a pain in the ass to get to the stadium. Sometimes you have better chances hoping on the train than taking the shuttle to the stadium. Parking there is an absolute nightmare and a big blow because they could develop it to be so much more than just a sea of asphalt. Funny how this park took inspiration from Disneyland. Maybe it should follow what they’re doing instead of staying behind the 20th century.
@@cities4ppl People actually hate that, especially the ones who live around that area. They prefer it to be a heavy or light rail extension underground or just leave it as is for now.
i’m so disappointed in the braves for moving out to suburban cobb county but the neighborhood where they used to play at (summerhill) is way better now than it has been for several decades so it’s kind of a double edged sword
Atlanta is difficult to wrap my head around. It seems like the consensus is everyone likes the new stadium even though it’s not even in Atlanta. The Atlanta sports culture is weird.
You say outdated while those of us who see the bigger picture can tell it was well ahead of its time. The Rangers new park looks like it’s retarded southern cousin with a bunch of new amenities but none of the charm, class or innovation.
@@cities4ppl I agree Camden Yards doesn't have impressive transit, even if the potential is there. Camden Station is right there, but has about 6 trains each way per weekday running commuter hours, no weekend service. The MARC comes by every 30 minutes depending on which terminus. I've taken the light rail to games, but acknowledge it needs way more lines on top of frequency because it's only useful to a linear sliver of the metro area. That being said, these are things that could get quick fixes before a more robust system is built, namely by (1) increasing frequencies on game days and (2) implementing signal preference for LR cars so they don't take 10 minutes to go through Inner Harbor. But the reason I think Camden Yards deserves to be in the top ten is that it feels like it's in a genuine neighborhood with bars all open, streets closed, and things to do, rather than the sterile "stadium district" feel a lot of other cities are trying to recreate, like Nats Park in DC (which I also love). I also think that Baltimore does a good job of accommodating people who need to drive in too, because let's be honest, Baltimore needs better transit but doesn't have it now. I-95 and 295 allow easy access to the stadium in a way that doesn't interfere with the walkability of the local neighborhoods or the stadium. It's a pretty fortunate setup that Baltimore has uniquely because of its geography and road layout.
@@cities4ppl I feel like you only highlighted Muni which only serves San Francisco and a small sample of Giants fans. San Francisco is the smallest of all these cities. If you look at the entire Metro area you can get to Oracle Park by Ferry (right up to the ballpark) from the East and North Bay. By Caltrain (1 block away) from the Peninsula and South Bay. You can also take BART from all over the Bay Area. It would be a 20 minute walk or direct transfer MUNI (about 5 minutes on T line).
Unpopular opinion but I actually don’t mind the large parking lots around ballparks and stadiums. Even though it’s an eyesore I enjoy the tailgating experience. I know this applies more to the NFL than MLB but it’s always a great time grilling out and having a few beers with people before the game. In my opinion it makes for a great experience
I hated to do it but according to the data, they didn’t quite make the top 10 as far location goes. It’s more about the cities infrastructure than the stadiums themselves, although that plays a part as well.
At yankee stadium there's the 4, C, and D trains and metro north. Yankee stadium should have been number one for the train options and restaurants in the area. Ironically it's sucks to drive to.
How does PNC Park not even rate in the top ten? PNC Park is a very short walk from Downtown Pittsburgh and the trolleys stop within a block or two from the stadium. And it's right on the Allegheny River. That's the most glaring omission you made out of all the stadiums you highlighted.
Not into the sportsball much, but wouldn't it be better to build the sportsball stadiums out in the sticks where land is cheap? The Buildings also don't require much infrastructure. There are better uses for that land in the city than sportsball stadiums that only get used 1 day a week, for a season. Even when you take other events into account it is still a terrible use of prime urban land. This is why sportsball often needs subsidies for their stadiums.
Yes I think the argument could be made for building stadiums far away from the city center. But there have been so many examples of stadiums/arenas spurring the redevelopment of an otherwise “soulless” area of the city. It’s a fun discussion as there’s no right answer and each city is different.
@@cities4ppl we can also have similar discussions about airports, HSR stations and more. There are arguements for putting them close to the city as well as putting them far away.
It’s also in St. Louis so it loses points for that alone. Like Baltimore & Philly the city is a glorified pile of excrement at this point with little chance for change in the near future.
#20 - tough for St. Louis to compete with the likes of SF or DC. Almost every team has a great ballpark and location now. Only a few teams with dinosaur stadiums.
Leftards scream racism while people who posses common sense understand the economics behind such a move. Why do you think the Thrashers left town but now might return with a new suburban building? Money.
as a dodgers fan, I will say the stadium is definitely a pain to park and get there. and the sea of concrete is ugly. but once I’m in Dodger’s Stadium im just mesmerized by the views and the stadium as a whole. and I wouldn’t want it any other way
@@cities4ppl idk how it would be possible to fix the car only problem with the Dodgers Stadium just because it’s on a mountain. And I don’t think the fans would like to hike up there 81 times a year 🤣 but Angels Stadium definitely has potential of being revitalized being on a flat surface and having hella parking
I imagine the parking situation at Dodger Stadium is why many people leave after the 7th inning, especially when Dodgers are losing, so that they can "beat the traffic."
That's why Baltimore's Camden Yards is unironically great- it's good for drivers to access since it's right off I-95 and 295. But it also has decent transit access (Light Rail and Camden Station- even though MARC really needs to increase frequencies and add weekend service on that line). And of course, the neighborhoods around Camden Yards are super vibrant. You can walk 5 minutes to Pickles or 10 minutes to Inner Harbor, or 15 minutes to the heart of Fed Hill and have tons to do. It's convenient for people in the city while acknowledging that most fans are gonna come from other parts of the state.
You did not mention Citizens Bank park in Philly. Broad Street Line. Fans from New Jersey, take the PATCO line to in to Philly,. Off at 12/13 and Locust walk to Broad Street Line boom. There. The Alley is best spot to hang out with REAL Base Ball fans and watch game. Bleachers on the roof a true wow experience. Remember this is Philly so if you take the trains in ,your car will not be stolen.
Citizens bank park was ranked #22. I recognize Philly has a decent setup for their sports stadiums but just look at the aerial. Surrounded by parking lots.
Idk I feel like petco and giants could have been a higher I i feel like there a lot of things to do before and after a game some of the ones rated better we’re nice but in boring areas like the on by the factory’s but maybe I’m bias anyway LFGSD
@@cities4pplHow did Oracle get a low score for Public Transit? You two separate light rail lines on its doorstep. A block away, you have a Commuter rail line, CalTrain. A block over, you have 3 bus lines.
@@cities4ppl You said that with a straight face. I am in Jackson, MS. This is a city where being strapped is not optional and a place where you can't have nice stuff. And before you say that is not an Major League city... My best friend got his truck broken into about a block maybe 2 from Busch Stadium almost a year ago.
@@keithbeck8170 stop electing incompetent Democrats to municipal office if the problem has gotten that bad. It’s like every failing major city in the nation hasn’t learned the true definition of madness.
@@lightningdragon1237 I guess the Braves, Twins, Giants, Mets, Jays, Diamondbacks, Red Sox, Yankees, Cubs, Padres, Rangers, Pirates, Brewers, Marlins, Mariners, Tigers, Athletics, Dodgers, White Sox, Guardians, Royals, Cardinals, and Nationals would all be dirty cheaters then by your logic
@@cities4ppl WRONG,2013. AND 2022 it is worse on that subway line,especially after a night game. I have been a Yankee fan since 1957. Been to the REAL ORIGINAL Longer than you have been alive. I know the Bronx,you do not. That damned hunk of N.Y.City has ONLY 2 nice neighborhoods, The original little Italy Belmont, near Fordham U. Zoo, Botanical garden and City Island. Yankee Stadium is not in either.Going to a sport event at Fordham is a thousand times safer than Yankee Stadium.(Ram Ram Ram for victory!)The present and past two mayors continue to ruin the Apple. That is a FACT you progressive liberals just cab NOT accept.When I do go,I go heavy,know what i mean? Belmont is where Bronx Tale took place and Chaz lived it.Dion is from there too.Rest of the Bronx produces a combat zone level body count.
@@dwaynerichardson5380 It is not, at night it is worse and you know it. Fans move in packs,if you do go you also know that is true. WHY? Street crime according to both the Federal D.O.J.and the N.Y.P.D. is what ? UP!Buildings are not on fire, but gangs now rule the night,and they are way more armed now.Not near as many burned out cars and stores, but more and more powerful firepower is in the wrong hands. So say 7 retired N.Y.P.D. cop buddies of mine.Oh how EXPENSIVE is it NOW to see the Choker Yanks play? I grew up with the Yankees 1957 first game, M and M days in the 60's, been to that stadium, the redone stadium at same spot and this one. This one is my least fave.Even met George, drank with Billy in Oneonta NY, at the Copper Fox, saw Willie try to coach Fordham, the Yankee experience is so over ratted today.You walk out back to car all alone,ride the train all alone? Do not think so..
You forgot Citi Field, in Queens. You focused on Yankee Stadium in NYC, but forgot the Mets stadium. The (7) train stops right in front of it, and the 7 train also shares the stop with the US Open Tennis Center, where Tennis is played.
As a Jays fan, i’d much rather have the team stay in that area instead of moving out to the suburbs and building a nicer stadium. Access to public transit has always been a critically underrated factor in judging stadiums considering it’s ability to remove the stress of being stuck in car traffic for two hours JUST to get out of the parking lot (ahem Buffalo Bills). All of Torontos sports teams have access to multiple forms of transit, and the city is investing to improve transit in order to accommodate for the increased usage over time (take the Ontario Line that goes to BMO field as an example). Because of the baseball and hockey arena’s proximity to Union Station (second busiest train station in North America), people can effectively get to the stadium from the regional GO trains, the subway, the local streetcar lines downtown and even through the UP Airport Express train that goes directly from Pearson Airport to Union (good for visiting fans potentially if they need to get to the stadium quickly after flying in). Having all of these transit options are vital when it comes to moving 45K people into and out of a dense area like a sports stadium!
Could not have said it better myself! All of the above is precisely why I felt like it deserved #1 status. I look forward to the renovations.
Hells to yeah
Eh-men. I live in Barrie and can get down to the game by train in about the same time as driving/parking/walking.
With the new outfield district I can get get to the game and attend for 60 bucks ($42 American- for context) and I live 100km(60mi) away.
And since I saved a shit load by not needing Gieko, I can afford 12 dollar beers.
If the skydome were to be built it would have to be in the same location, so the jays would have to play at a temp stadium for the 10 or so years it takes to tare down and rebuild it. But i don't see a reason why, just reno the skydome and its all good.
@@twocansams6335 well, the offense (Vladdy in particular) exploded in Buffalo lol I wouldn't mind a full year(s) of that.
Vladdy was on pace to hit 41 HR in Buffalo/Dunedin in 2021 - in just the home games. (He had 21hr in 42 games)
His numbers took a huge hit after they returned to Toronto.
He was well on pace to beat 61 hr in 2021.
But yeah, can't lose that location, it's amazing. Renos are just fine.
Citi Field is easily accessible by the 7 line - there's a stop called "Mets - Willets Point". There isn't much to do around the ballpark yet but give it a couple of years. The city, NYCFC and others have some great plans for the neighborhood.
Citi Field was #18 according to the metrics I used. However I find Citi Field to be an even better ballpark than Yankee Stadium. Citi Field could easily work it’s way up to the top 10.
@@cities4ppl And the food is better at Citi Field :)
And citi Field has the Lirr and parks and a zoo across the bridge.
@@cities4ppl. You should take a look at yankee stadium and citifield again because both are easily accessible via mass transit in nyc with 5 trains to Yankee stadium and 2 to citi field.
@@szaretsky819 as a yankee fan I have to agree the food is better at Citi
The Go Train in Toronto is a great way to get to a Blue Jays game. However, I do think on game days they should have a Rogers Center stop, instead of having to go to Union Station, and walking back to the Stadium. I wonder if they could do some renovations, and make a couple large stairways from the tracks to the stadium?
So the governing body of GO Transit “Metrolinx” has plans to build a Spadina GO station right near where the SkyDome is. Unfortunately for various reasons (it’s kinda a rabbit hole to go down so I won’t go into much detail) it only serves the Barrie line trains which only serve the northern regions of the GTA and runs less frequently compared to the Lakeshore West and Kitchener lines. It could hopefully change but there’s no plans on it right now.
On the bright side, the revamping of Exhibition and the new Ontario Line station at Queen and Spadina will help to reduce the GO train congestion at Union Station after games. Exhibition is going to be turned into a mini Union station and will handle higher frequencies of GO trains + Ontario Line in addition to being able to physically handle massive crowds compared to how it currently is rn where the tunnels and platforms are too packed and slow moving after TFC games
@@jakestar121 Interesting, thanks for commenting. I'll have to look it up.
I always found after games, walking back to Union was bad. If you miss a train, on the walk back, you have to wait an hour for the next one. That's not much fun at 11pm.
@@BWyatt76 ikwym. ya Skydome isn’t a perfect ballpark for pedestrians (it’s right next to the Gardiner after all). after driving out of the Buffalo Bills parking lot on game day, never again will I take transit access for granted lmaooo
@@jakestar121 Overall, I think getting to Rogers Center on the GO is positive, especially since I live in Burlington, but a couple things could make it even better.
That would be a fantastic upgrade!
Love T-Mobile Park. The pic you showed of the train is actually the Sounder commuter train. Link light rail has an underground station nearby though. And the Sounder runs trains to and from Seattle on game days. So close enough. :)
I did recognize that as I was editing. I figured somebody would catch it haha.
The only knock against Skydome's location is that it can definitely use more bars and restaurants outside of the stadium. Even on the north side, you still have to walk across a pedestrian bridge towards front street where there are plenty of restaurants buts its a minimum 5 minute walk from the stadium. However, other places like Wrigley and Fenway have restaurants literally across the street from the stadium which makes a big difference.
I see your point. Wrigley and Fenway are usually 1 and 2 because of the environment immediately surrounding the field.
That's the trade off though. If you put a baseball stadium next to the biggest train-station in Canada, you're going to have to walk over the tracks. The Restaurants are plentiful, but you have to walk 5-10 mins. Or, get there early and go to st Louis bar and grill. It is 1 min away on Bremner.
The walk from the Skydome to Front street is about 2 minutes max unless you are built like a hobbit or the stadium is letting out and the crowd is at its densest. Considering there is a St. Louis, Boston Pizza, Wahlbergers & more all within a stones throw of the stadium, so your point isn’t really valid as it is either overly picky or simply ill informed.
@adellis24 who are you to invalid someone's opinion? I went to the very first game at skydome and have gone to twenty games every year so I have substantial experience. It sounds like you are the one that are ill informed and have not traveled to other ballparks to understand the proximity that I am referring to. Getting to front street from skydome won't take 2 minutes when you are leaving after a game and the pathways over the rail is crowded. The average person walks around 9-10 minutes per kilometer. This slows down considerably when walking with thousands of people...probably around 12 or 13 minutes per kilometer.
Sure if you are leaving from gate 1(the closest gate) and walking to Boston Pizza where there is no crowding, it would take 3 minutes. But realistically, most people are walking 10+ minutes to bigger places like scattabush, jack astors, loose moose, earls, movies. They aren't generally going to tiny places like Wahlburgers.
LoanDepot Park would have made a good honorable mention. You can take the Metrorail to overtown station, which used to be called overtown/arena station, because the Miami Arena once stood in front of it. Once you get off the station you take the shuttle that takes you straight to the ballpark. There's also a trolley that takes you to the ballpark if you're coming from Northern Dade County by getting off civic center station. There's also the tri rail and brightline trains if you're coming from West Palm Beach or Broward. There are shops and restaurants around the ballpark area. And no parking pass needed to park in the garage. You pay for parking by phone or the parking app.
I looked at Miami for awhile but according to my data it’s ranked 23rd. It’s tough to compete with the cities that are more sense w ballparks in a central location.
@@cities4ppl I mean it's near downtown Miami. Where there are plenty of tourist attractions for visiting fans like Bayside, Jungle Island, and the beaches. I'm from Miami and been to the ballpark many times.
the only issue with that ball park is too many drug dealers and not much else around there
How could you forget Busch Stadium :O. We were on City Nerds list… :/
Busch Stadium is great but I used a little different methodology. Ultimately the walk, bike and transit score wasn’t quite up to snuff to crack the top 10.
SkyDome (sorry, Rogers Centre) is a great stadium, and it is in a great location!
Worthy of #1
As a White Sox fan, just curious on where Comiskey Park (I refuse to adhere to any other name) would be on this list.
Yeah it has way too many parking lots, but it's also next to a subway line, a commuter train line, and within walking distance of multiple bus stops.
Comiskey was #21. The transit score was good but the walk and bike scores were comparatively low.
You ever try walking from the Red Line to Comiskey? It's not exactly fun crossing over the Dan Ryan Expressway from the Red Line or Metra stations.
@@CreightonRabs It's been some years, but I have done it.
Fun? Probably not.
Convenient? At least a little bit.
@@cities4ppl i live right by Sox Park and can confirm that biking is awful along 35th Street.
Surprised Comerica Park didn't make the list. Right outside downtown Detroit in the heart of the entertainment district. Accessible by both the people mover and the qLine rail line. Pedestrian friendly and bicycle accessibility improving. Several bus lines within 2 blocks with direct no transfer routes to all the suburbs. And while several small surface lots near the stadium, several parking structures quite cut down the footprint of parking. While maybe not top 5 worthy, it quite certainly fits this list.
According to my data - Comerica ranked just behind PNC & Camden who also didn’t make the list. Comerica would be top 10 with improved bike infrastructure.
@@cities4ppl As a Tigers fan, I was wondering where Comerica was ranked.
Yankee Stadium has two subways. 4 line was mentioned, but also D line.
I liked the photo of the 161st stop better but I should have still mentioned the D line.
Truist Park in Atlanta is a BEAUTIFUL ballpark, the home of the Braves, it should be on your list
I like the design but it’s 14 miles from the city center of Atlanta. No MARTA connection.
Considering it's your background in this video, I was shocked that PNC wasn't on the list. Walk across the bridges from downtown or take the T or the water taxi. And once you're there you get the best view from any MLB park, with the Allegheny River in front of you and downtown as a backdrop.
PNC literally just missed the cut and that is why I decided to showcase it as my background. Camden yards was another tough one to cut.
@@cities4ppl none of those were better than PNC
@@omcnair it’s a list about ease of access for pedestrians instead of about the look of the ballpark. No water taxis will be as effective at transporting 30+K people out of a stadium to wherever they want to go in the city or region compared to the parks that are right next to high capacity subway stations or even being 10 min walk away from major transit terminals like Torontos Union Station
@@cities4ppl The only thing to do in Baltimore after a game is to avoid getting mugged. I don't blame you for not adding Camden Yards to the top ten.
As a Mets fan for over 50 years I've developed reasonably tough skin, even as I'm repeatedly treated as an afterthought, but I don't know how CitField did not make this list. From a city (not outsized-town) standpoint it's hard to find a better For People MLB ballpark. The ballpark is not a "5-, 10,- or 15-minute walk" from transit: the 7 train's platforms exit to the ballpark's promenade. And the 7 train has stops at Times Square and Grand Central Station, meaning that virtually everyone in the city can get to the ballpark with one connection or fewer. ...
Several folks have brought this up. The transit score is 100 for Citi Field. It’s the walk and bike score that kept it out of the top 10. Transit, walk and bike were weighted equally.
@@cities4ppl Those factors should be weighted for each of the individual markets. "Transit" itself is a generic term which equates the NYC subway system to bus lines in Milwaukee, or the area north of Atlanta. Perhaps a couple of hundred fans would have trouble walking or biking to CitField, but the efficiency with which the 7 train is able move 30,000 or more fans is worth noting ...
@@jricoc3475 hard to argue with that!
Arizona Diamondbacks has a good one in downtown Phoenix it has two light rail Tran stops and it is close to good restaurants
Chase Field is #19. It’s really more of a product of being in PHX. Tough to compete.
Getting on the Dodger Express from Union Station is a real life saver. Get in/out of Dodger stadium within minutes since it has the right of way.
LA has little hacks where you can move around without a car but it takes a lot of effort.
As a dodgers fan, it’s a pain in the ass to get to the stadium. Sometimes you have better chances hoping on the train than taking the shuttle to the stadium. Parking there is an absolute nightmare and a big blow because they could develop it to be so much more than just a sea of asphalt. Funny how this park took inspiration from Disneyland. Maybe it should follow what they’re doing instead of staying behind the 20th century.
I’ve read about a gondola system from union station to Doyer Stadium. Slim chance that happens but anything would be helpful at this point.
@@cities4ppl People actually hate that, especially the ones who live around that area. They prefer it to be a heavy or light rail extension underground or just leave it as is for now.
There’s a shuttle that runs to dodger stadium from union station. Not bad going in, but gets caught up in the atrocious postgame traffic.
You shall not exit Chavez Ravine.
LA Dodgers fan here. But yes driving in an out of the stadium fucking sucks. Absolute nightmare.
Y’all need that gondola!
Dodger Stadium is amazing. Sunset over the city , ..best dogs, great open field park. Its a classic
Oh there’s no doubt that it’s great once you finally arrive…
If you can afford the time to drive in. A ballpark without a subway or light rail service just doesn't cut it.
i’m so disappointed in the braves for moving out to suburban cobb county but the neighborhood where they used to play at (summerhill) is way better now than it has been for several decades so it’s kind of a double edged sword
Atlanta is difficult to wrap my head around. It seems like the consensus is everyone likes the new stadium even though it’s not even in Atlanta. The Atlanta sports culture is weird.
Skydome is outdated…but location has never been an issue with it. Hopefully the renovations work out.
They’ll take Skydome to a whole new level.
You say outdated while those of us who see the bigger picture can tell it was well ahead of its time. The Rangers new park looks like it’s retarded southern cousin with a bunch of new amenities but none of the charm, class or innovation.
Camden yards...
Tough to leave Camden out. Camden was the pioneer of bringing stadiums back into the fabric of the city.
@@cities4ppl I agree Camden Yards doesn't have impressive transit, even if the potential is there. Camden Station is right there, but has about 6 trains each way per weekday running commuter hours, no weekend service. The MARC comes by every 30 minutes depending on which terminus. I've taken the light rail to games, but acknowledge it needs way more lines on top of frequency because it's only useful to a linear sliver of the metro area. That being said, these are things that could get quick fixes before a more robust system is built, namely by (1) increasing frequencies on game days and (2) implementing signal preference for LR cars so they don't take 10 minutes to go through Inner Harbor.
But the reason I think Camden Yards deserves to be in the top ten is that it feels like it's in a genuine neighborhood with bars all open, streets closed, and things to do, rather than the sterile "stadium district" feel a lot of other cities are trying to recreate, like Nats Park in DC (which I also love). I also think that Baltimore does a good job of accommodating people who need to drive in too, because let's be honest, Baltimore needs better transit but doesn't have it now. I-95 and 295 allow easy access to the stadium in a way that doesn't interfere with the walkability of the local neighborhoods or the stadium. It's a pretty fortunate setup that Baltimore has uniquely because of its geography and road layout.
As of 2020 I go to Boston every summer September for a game and Boston vibes
Tough to beat. My wife simply refers to them as “Fenway Games”. She doesn’t even like baseball.
@@cities4ppl great city
Wrigley should be above Fenway.
Look at that freeway behind Fenway, major point deduction!
I definitely considered that. They are so neck and neck in basically every way. Tough to say which is better!
i thought oracle park would be at #1. surprised its that low
Oracle park is a tremendous ballpark. It’s more about SF not having quite as extensive transit infrastructure as the other cities.
@@cities4ppl I feel like you only highlighted Muni which only serves San Francisco and a small sample of Giants fans. San Francisco is the smallest of all these cities. If you look at the entire Metro area you can get to Oracle Park by Ferry (right up to the ballpark) from the East and North Bay. By Caltrain (1 block away) from the Peninsula and South Bay. You can also take BART from all over the Bay Area. It would be a 20 minute walk or direct transfer MUNI (about 5 minutes on T line).
Unpopular opinion but I actually don’t mind the large parking lots around ballparks and stadiums. Even though it’s an eyesore I enjoy the tailgating experience. I know this applies more to the NFL than MLB but it’s always a great time grilling out and having a few beers with people before the game. In my opinion it makes for a great experience
Yeah for sure. I won’t be making a best NFL stadiums list because the parking lot is actually a benefit…sort of.
American Family Field in Milwaukee is great for tailgating.
Design and city views wise I feel like Oracle is amazing but transportation wise I think Coliseum is better since it’s easy to access via Bart
A’s could do something special with the new stadium.
Ok, this is bogus. Both PNC Park AND Orioles’ Park at Camden Yards not even making this list is the biggest farce ever.
I hated to do it but according to the data, they didn’t quite make the top 10 as far location goes. It’s more about the cities infrastructure than the stadiums themselves, although that plays a part as well.
Go train, streetcars, subway, walking, biking...you couldn't find a better place for a ballpark than Skydome.
That’s what I’m talking about!
At yankee stadium there's the 4, C, and D trains and metro north. Yankee stadium should have been number one for the train options and restaurants in the area. Ironically it's sucks to drive to.
Yankee Stadium has a perfect transit score and great walk score. The bike score is what kept it from being #1.
Could you do nfl stadiums and other sporting arenas?
In process!
How does PNC Park not even rate in the top ten? PNC Park is a very short walk from Downtown Pittsburgh and the trolleys stop within a block or two from the stadium. And it's right on the Allegheny River. That's the most glaring omission you made out of all the stadiums you highlighted.
Camden, PNC and Comerica just missed the top 10. PNC has excellent transit but just not quite as good as bike or walk score as the others.
And you had a photo of PNC right behind you.
It’s impossible to have a good sports venue for cars. The parking lot hells hurt everyone.
No disagreement here!
You put the Oakland Coliseum on the thumbnail but didn't talk about it at all 😂
Because there are even worse!
Not into the sportsball much, but wouldn't it be better to build the sportsball stadiums out in the sticks where land is cheap? The Buildings also don't require much infrastructure. There are better uses for that land in the city than sportsball stadiums that only get used 1 day a week, for a season. Even when you take other events into account it is still a terrible use of prime urban land. This is why sportsball often needs subsidies for their stadiums.
Yes I think the argument could be made for building stadiums far away from the city center. But there have been so many examples of stadiums/arenas spurring the redevelopment of an otherwise “soulless” area of the city. It’s a fun discussion as there’s no right answer and each city is different.
@@cities4ppl we can also have similar discussions about airports, HSR stations and more. There are arguements for putting them close to the city as well as putting them far away.
No Busch stadium is wild
Busch is pretty good on all metrics but just not quite good enough.
It’s also in St. Louis so it loses points for that alone. Like Baltimore & Philly the city is a glorified pile of excrement at this point with little chance for change in the near future.
No OPACY? Wow. Parking literally everywhere plus a train that stops feet from it. Then the inner harbor before or after. I call shenanigans
Camden JUST missed the top 10. Someone had to be left off.
Where do you rank the ballpark in St. Louis?
#20 - tough for St. Louis to compete with the likes of SF or DC. Almost every team has a great ballpark and location now. Only a few teams with dinosaur stadiums.
@@cities4ppl I understand
If I had a nickel for each argument I had about the Braves move to Cobb County being racist, I would build an extention of MARTA to Truist Park.
I wasn’t a fan of the move but wasn’t surprised at all.
Leftards scream racism while people who posses common sense understand the economics behind such a move. Why do you think the Thrashers left town but now might return with a new suburban building? Money.
as a dodgers fan, I will say the stadium is definitely a pain to park and get there. and the sea of concrete is ugly. but once I’m in Dodger’s Stadium im just mesmerized by the views and the stadium as a whole. and I wouldn’t want it any other way
The stadium experience once you’re finally in the ballpark is great, no denying that. Chavez Ravine!
@@cities4ppl idk how it would be possible to fix the car only problem with the Dodgers Stadium just because it’s on a mountain. And I don’t think the fans would like to hike up there 81 times a year 🤣 but Angels Stadium definitely has potential of being revitalized being on a flat surface and having hella parking
Views are wonderful its a painted dump though by far the most unhappy employees in any venue
I imagine the parking situation at Dodger Stadium is why many people leave after the 7th inning, especially when Dodgers are losing, so that they can "beat the traffic."
@@stephenkammerling9479 that’s actually very true. I always did that 🤣
You could also take the Long Island railroad to get to citi field
Citi field has some of the best transit access but the walk and bike score is what pushes it out of the top 10.
These stadiums are a nightmare for parking and leaving quickly/highway access
Bingo
That's the point
That's why Baltimore's Camden Yards is unironically great- it's good for drivers to access since it's right off I-95 and 295. But it also has decent transit access (Light Rail and Camden Station- even though MARC really needs to increase frequencies and add weekend service on that line). And of course, the neighborhoods around Camden Yards are super vibrant. You can walk 5 minutes to Pickles or 10 minutes to Inner Harbor, or 15 minutes to the heart of Fed Hill and have tons to do. It's convenient for people in the city while acknowledging that most fans are gonna come from other parts of the state.
You did not mention Citizens Bank park in Philly. Broad Street Line. Fans from New Jersey, take the PATCO line to in to Philly,. Off at 12/13 and Locust walk to Broad Street Line boom. There. The Alley is best spot to hang out with REAL Base Ball fans and watch game. Bleachers on the roof a true wow experience. Remember this is Philly so if you take the trains in ,your car will not be stolen.
Citizens bank park was ranked #22. I recognize Philly has a decent setup for their sports stadiums but just look at the aerial. Surrounded by parking lots.
ya the massive surrounding parking lots scream ARLINGTON more than the urbanist Philadelphia that I know to be very solid and underrated for transit
@@jakestar121 last year Phills walked on water, this season they got to part the waves,FINISH!
I think oracle should have been higher on the list.
Some stiff competition.
Idk I feel like petco and giants could have been a higher I i feel like there a lot of things to do before and after a game some of the ones rated better we’re nice but in boring areas like the on by the factory’s but maybe I’m bias anyway LFGSD
Walk and bike scores are nearly perfect for those stadiums but ultimately the transit score brings their overall score down.
@@cities4pplHow did Oracle get a low score for Public Transit? You two separate light rail lines on its doorstep. A block away, you have a Commuter rail line, CalTrain. A block over, you have 3 bus lines.
Jon Branham is that you????
Lol we may never know!
Downtown stadiums are pretty but in many cities it is not practical or SAFE.
Downtowns aren’t safe. It must be 1973, not 2023.
@@cities4ppl You said that with a straight face. I am in Jackson, MS. This is a city where being strapped is not optional and a place where you can't have nice stuff. And before you say that is not an Major League city... My best friend got his truck broken into about a block maybe 2 from Busch Stadium almost a year ago.
@@keithbeck8170 stop electing incompetent Democrats to municipal office if the problem has gotten that bad. It’s like every failing major city in the nation hasn’t learned the true definition of madness.
@@cities4ppl it’s primarily a Democrat run city issue.
Was anybody else distracted by that banging noise? Sounded like someone hitting a trash can throughout the video…
Lol took me a minute…
lmao I think it was George Springer doing it when he talked about he rogers centre #cheaters
@@lightningdragon1237 I guess the Braves, Twins, Giants, Mets, Jays, Diamondbacks, Red Sox, Yankees, Cubs, Padres, Rangers, Pirates, Brewers, Marlins, Mariners, Tigers, Athletics, Dodgers, White Sox, Guardians, Royals, Cardinals, and Nationals would all be dirty cheaters then by your logic
Chicago Teams???????
Clearly didn’t watch the full video. Tsk tsk.
Minute Maid Park wasn’t on this??
Minute Maid is #15 according to my methodology. As downtown continues to improve, MMP could sneak into the top 10.
@@cities4ppl I think it’s a perfect location tho
The Bronx,yankee Stadium? Are you nutz? 4 line, 55% shot of getting robbed. Ass better be in a group of at least 15 to be safe.
Is this comment from 1980?
@@cities4ppl WRONG,2013. AND 2022 it is worse on that subway line,especially after a night game. I have been a Yankee fan since 1957. Been to the REAL ORIGINAL Longer than you have been alive. I know the Bronx,you do not. That damned hunk of N.Y.City has ONLY 2 nice neighborhoods, The original little Italy Belmont, near Fordham U. Zoo, Botanical garden and City Island. Yankee Stadium is not in either.Going to a sport event at Fordham is a thousand times safer than Yankee Stadium.(Ram Ram Ram for victory!)The present and past two mayors continue to ruin the Apple. That is a FACT you progressive liberals just cab NOT accept.When I do go,I go heavy,know what i mean? Belmont is where Bronx Tale took place and Chaz lived it.Dion is from there too.Rest of the Bronx produces a combat zone level body count.
Tell that to all the white, suburban folks who attend every game. This is not the South Bronx of the 70's, dude.
@@dwaynerichardson5380 It is not, at night it is worse and you know it. Fans move in packs,if you do go you also know that is true. WHY? Street crime according to both the Federal D.O.J.and the N.Y.P.D. is what ? UP!Buildings are not on fire, but gangs now rule the night,and they are way more armed now.Not near as many burned out cars and stores, but more and more powerful firepower is in the wrong hands. So say 7 retired N.Y.P.D. cop buddies of mine.Oh how EXPENSIVE is it NOW to see the Choker Yanks play? I grew up with the Yankees 1957 first game, M and M days in the 60's, been to that stadium, the redone stadium at same spot and this one. This one is my least fave.Even met George, drank with Billy in Oneonta NY, at the Copper Fox, saw Willie try to coach Fordham, the Yankee experience is so over ratted today.You walk out back to car all alone,ride the train all alone? Do not think so..
You forgot Citi Field, in Queens. You focused on Yankee Stadium in NYC, but forgot the Mets stadium. The (7) train stops right in front of it, and the 7 train also shares the stop with the US Open Tennis Center, where Tennis is played.
Citi Field just missed the cut!
Oakland Coliseum is best
I spared the coliseum since it’s painful enough to be an A’s fan.
LA always has traffic but their stadium was designed for a heavy volume of cars and it is done with perfection!
C.S.R - expert at sarcasm
It's just called "SkyDome" not "The SkyDome"
Strike one!
A Canadian stadium shouldn’t be #1. You forgot to even mention Camden Yards.
I know how very un-American of me! Camden was a tough one to omit. The transit score is 100 but the walk score is only 65.
Why?
Why not? Are you a fan overly sensitive cunt or do you just carry an unexplainable prejudice towards Canada?
Europeans trying to talk about American stuff again🤣🤡
Pardon