Awesome Minneapolis mention! Yeah, all of our major league stadiums are in prime urban areas along the LRT corridor, even the most recently built Allianz Field is still along the Green Line with TOD plans to infill its surface parking lots! We've built a culture of public transit ridership to sports games thanks to this. It makes a huge difference.
Hey I love your videos, especially this one. Taking notes on gow you do voice work, really good! What is your audio setup? Also God Levi's is weird. It'd be one thing if SF built massive housing on the Candlestick site but, they didn’t? And as you pointed out, Levi's isn’t impressive. Love to chat sometime!
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Not a fan of your DC stadium location suggestion. That bit of forest's a good bit of parkland for residents of SE DC. Taking it to build more stadiums to appeal to upper class outta-towners is not going to be a good look. And the intersection nearby is cluttered. If not at RFK Stadium, it should stay where it is contingent on the team paying for a Purple Line expansion (or other light rail) connecting Morgan Blvd to New Carrollton. Urban stadiums are best built on former industrial spots that are historically close to downtown, transit, and neighborhoods. For having a okay-bad transit system, Baltimore does this really well in my opinion with its NFL and MLB stadiums. Right on the LR line, near the train station (with poor commuter hours right now but at least there's potential to improve), but also near the highway spur so drivers can get there without disrupting the city streets. The only other spots I can think of near DC, near both metro and major road access, would be near the Pentagon on its lots (never gonna happen), the Post Office facility by RI Ave, or the industrial space between Cheverly and Deanwood metro. None of those are really worth it I believe.
DC is definitely challenging but Nationals Park is a good example to follow. Looks like there is some momentum for updating RFK - a serious no brainer. Appreciate your feedback.
@@cities4ppl Much appreciated for the discussion! Regarding Nats Park/Audi Field and Navy Yard, yes that was overall a good way to revitalize the area (I'd like more rent control assurances to ensure longtime residents don't get outpriced, but that's an issue with DC in general). The best non-RFK solution may have been to build Audi Field as a combined soccer and football stadium for better land use. But that time is past and the area doesn't need 3 stadiums. Eagerly awaiting more videos on MD/DC. It's slow going but there's lots to be excited for regarding WMATA, the Purple Line, TOD around MARC stations, and rail lines in Baltimore.
I agree with the original comment for why the SE DC area is not good - I think there are also some parkland regulations. I also don't want a stadium on the RFK site, though. I live over here, and the events that are hosted in the empty lots around the stadium already bring in enough cars making it almost impossible for even emergency vehicles to enter and exit our neighborhoods. Some of the attendees also block off our playgrounds and leave baggies of drugs in our yards and sidewalks. The RFK area is too densely populated for another stadium.
Arlington heights is off train access. And we have 7 million people in the suburbs vs 2.6 in the city. Soldier field is owned by the city so it’s not an option. It’s not like the rest on this list just purely because of the major highways and train and buses that service the area. You forgot other burb locations like patriots/cowboys/??? Shit greenbay is on avg 3-4 hr drive for their fans.
You’re not wrong about a lot of this but the reason why I didn’t include those other stadiums are; The Cowboys haven’t played in Dallas since the 60s. Boston is tiny and the most expensive city in America so NFL stadium just doesn’t make sense. Similar thing can be said for NY Jets/Giants. Lambeau is in the “core” of Green Bay.
Core of a city of 140k….i guess location only matters if fans get a good experience. Soldier field was pretty but far from any cool bar neighborhood and Chicago made it impossible to tailgate. Arlington heights gets us back to Midwest roots and a huge fan experience like greenbay and New England have. Some teams need city location …i dont think bears do
A good case study is the Detroit Lions. They went from sharing Tiger Stadium (in a neighborhood like Wrigley Field) to giant parking lot surrounding the Pontiac Silverdome, nowehere near the actual downtown Pontiac. And in 2002, the Lions moved back to Detroit proper with Ford Field located in the downtown area. If you want to see what a difference location can make, compare the Silverdome to Ford Field.
I've been to FedEX Field. The only way to get there is by car, really. The stadium is also falling apart. They discussed building the new stadium in Woodbridge and Loudon County in Virginia, which are both 20 miles away from downtown. I don't like either of those options.
@@Knightmessenger yeah, but I feel like you’d be kicking out poor people. It’ll probably happen anyway, because this is DC, but it’s still kinda effed up
@@joshfriedman7099 If they build it right where RFK is, it'd work. Build dense apartments on top of the parking lots (besides the one used for festivals). Realistically there should be a garage. But overall it could be built without pricing out current residents if the mayor wants.
You forgot Cowboy Stadium. Jerry Jones literally tried to get the city of Irving to drop out of DART, the transit agency to instead build him a new stadium. Naturally they told him to pound sand. But Arlington took him with open hands and lots of their tax dollars. Still gotta shell out quite a bit of money just to park.
I considered the cowboys with ATT stadium but The “Dallas” Cowboys have not played in Dallas since the 60s. The cowboys aren’t really associated with Dallas, weirdly. They are more associated with the entire state of Texas. But of course you’re right, could have easily made this list.
It always blows my mind how bad US stadiums' land usage is compared to the MASSIVE tax breaks they get to be constructed. NFL has got to be the worst offender. Y'all really need a giant blacktop for tailgates a few weeks out of the year that sits totally vacant the rest of the time????
Levi's as an embarrassment. It's an insult to the fans with half the stadium being dedicated to luxury boxes, the seats aren't covered, and the location is horrible.
It’s my least favorite stadium by far. I could see a franchise like the jaguars or browns building something like Levi’s stadium, but the 49ers? Shameful.
@@cities4ppl the I wear hip group is just a bunch of old money California libertarian finance bros. They get a free pass as horrible owners because the team actually does well on the field. But they treat the fan base so horribly. I stopped watching NFL games altogether as a result.
I lived in Phoenix and downtown is a joke, they should have built the stadium there not out in the boonies. Phoenix needs to do a lot of in-fill in the city center and stop with the sprawl.
@@cities4pplI’m a Bills fan and I wish they would build our new stadium in downtown or somewhere relatively close to the city centre. When they open the new stadium, a rail system should be built that easily connects the Bills Stadium (and Orchard Park) to Buffalo and they should build nearby bars and restaurants alongside roads at the stadium to make it more appealing to visitors. (Not like the Patriots mall but more-so like a town square)
To be fair, those stadiums opened in the 1960s when putting a stadium downtown wasn't a major sticking point. The people who do that in 2023 are just failing to learn from 50 years.
Actually the bears nrw stadium is simple. Th majority of the fans are people who have money and live in the north. They will probably have a huge parking lot. Plus they will avoid Lakeshore and i 94 traffic hours. I remember how my bosses always used to complain about driving to Chicago on game day.
A but of an over simplified way of looking at it. There’s no denying that the Northside is more appealing to the Bears owners. More so just sad that the Bears and Chicago can’t come to an agreement to keep them in Chicago.
Awesome Minneapolis mention! Yeah, all of our major league stadiums are in prime urban areas along the LRT corridor, even the most recently built Allianz Field is still along the Green Line with TOD plans to infill its surface parking lots!
We've built a culture of public transit ridership to sports games thanks to this. It makes a huge difference.
I’m waiting til I am more confident in my video making abilities before I feature Minneapolis. Criminally underrated!
Hey I love your videos, especially this one. Taking notes on gow you do voice work, really good! What is your audio setup?
Also God Levi's is weird. It'd be one thing if SF built massive housing on the Candlestick site but, they didn’t? And as you pointed out, Levi's isn’t impressive.
Love to chat sometime!
Thanks for the kind words. I use a blue yeti x mic and record in my closet lol. Hit me up on Twitter or Reddit!
4:07 the new Stadium location at RFK Stadium stands in Washington, DC/MD
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0:51 it’s Fort Lauderdale or Downtown Miami for the Miami Dolphins
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Not a fan of your DC stadium location suggestion. That bit of forest's a good bit of parkland for residents of SE DC. Taking it to build more stadiums to appeal to upper class outta-towners is not going to be a good look. And the intersection nearby is cluttered. If not at RFK Stadium, it should stay where it is contingent on the team paying for a Purple Line expansion (or other light rail) connecting Morgan Blvd to New Carrollton.
Urban stadiums are best built on former industrial spots that are historically close to downtown, transit, and neighborhoods. For having a okay-bad transit system, Baltimore does this really well in my opinion with its NFL and MLB stadiums. Right on the LR line, near the train station (with poor commuter hours right now but at least there's potential to improve), but also near the highway spur so drivers can get there without disrupting the city streets.
The only other spots I can think of near DC, near both metro and major road access, would be near the Pentagon on its lots (never gonna happen), the Post Office facility by RI Ave, or the industrial space between Cheverly and Deanwood metro. None of those are really worth it I believe.
DC is definitely challenging but Nationals Park is a good example to follow. Looks like there is some momentum for updating RFK - a serious no brainer. Appreciate your feedback.
@@cities4ppl Much appreciated for the discussion! Regarding Nats Park/Audi Field and Navy Yard, yes that was overall a good way to revitalize the area (I'd like more rent control assurances to ensure longtime residents don't get outpriced, but that's an issue with DC in general). The best non-RFK solution may have been to build Audi Field as a combined soccer and football stadium for better land use. But that time is past and the area doesn't need 3 stadiums.
Eagerly awaiting more videos on MD/DC. It's slow going but there's lots to be excited for regarding WMATA, the Purple Line, TOD around MARC stations, and rail lines in Baltimore.
I really like DC. I just featured a street in DC in my most recent video I just posted. Let me know what you think!
I agree with the original comment for why the SE DC area is not good - I think there are also some parkland regulations. I also don't want a stadium on the RFK site, though. I live over here, and the events that are hosted in the empty lots around the stadium already bring in enough cars making it almost impossible for even emergency vehicles to enter and exit our neighborhoods.
Some of the attendees also block off our playgrounds and leave baggies of drugs in our yards and sidewalks. The RFK area is too densely populated for another stadium.
2:11 I vote Downtown Phoenix, Arizona right under Chase Bank Field
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Arlington heights is off train access. And we have 7 million people in the suburbs vs 2.6 in the city. Soldier field is owned by the city so it’s not an option. It’s not like the rest on this list just purely because of the major highways and train and buses that service the area. You forgot other burb locations like patriots/cowboys/??? Shit greenbay is on avg 3-4 hr drive for their fans.
You’re not wrong about a lot of this but the reason why I didn’t include those other stadiums are; The Cowboys haven’t played in Dallas since the 60s.
Boston is tiny and the most expensive city in America so NFL stadium just doesn’t make sense.
Similar thing can be said for NY Jets/Giants.
Lambeau is in the “core” of Green Bay.
Core of a city of 140k….i guess location only matters if fans get a good experience. Soldier field was pretty but far from any cool bar neighborhood and Chicago made it impossible to tailgate. Arlington heights gets us back to Midwest roots and a huge fan experience like greenbay and New England have. Some teams need city location …i dont think bears do
A good case study is the Detroit Lions. They went from sharing Tiger Stadium (in a neighborhood like Wrigley Field) to giant parking lot surrounding the Pontiac Silverdome, nowehere near the actual downtown Pontiac.
And in 2002, the Lions moved back to Detroit proper with Ford Field located in the downtown area.
If you want to see what a difference location can make, compare the Silverdome to Ford Field.
Yeah Ford Field next to Comerica is a nice setup for downtown Detroit.
I've been to FedEX Field.
The only way to get there is by car, really.
The stadium is also falling apart.
They discussed building the new stadium in Woodbridge and Loudon County in Virginia, which are both 20 miles away from downtown.
I don't like either of those options.
Tough time to be a football fan in DC. They have a great example in the Nationals Park to copy.
Seems idiotic not to use the site of RFK stadium.
@@Knightmessenger yeah, but I feel like you’d be kicking out poor people.
It’ll probably happen anyway, because this is DC, but it’s still kinda effed up
@@joshfriedman7099 If they build it right where RFK is, it'd work. Build dense apartments on top of the parking lots (besides the one used for festivals). Realistically there should be a garage. But overall it could be built without pricing out current residents if the mayor wants.
You forgot Cowboy Stadium. Jerry Jones literally tried to get the city of Irving to drop out of DART, the transit agency to instead build him a new stadium. Naturally they told him to pound sand. But Arlington took him with open hands and lots of their tax dollars. Still gotta shell out quite a bit of money just to park.
I considered the cowboys with ATT stadium but The “Dallas” Cowboys have not played in Dallas since the 60s. The cowboys aren’t really associated with Dallas, weirdly. They are more associated with the entire state of Texas. But of course you’re right, could have easily made this list.
3:03 The 49ers should go to San Jose instead of Santa Clara
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It always blows my mind how bad US stadiums' land usage is compared to the MASSIVE tax breaks they get to be constructed. NFL has got to be the worst offender. Y'all really need a giant blacktop for tailgates a few weeks out of the year that sits totally vacant the rest of the time????
Sadly agree and sadly this applies to almost everything, not just stadiums. It’s exceedingly rare for a city to execute anything very well.
sweet video
Thanks!
4:53 Chicago Bears new stadium should Be next door to Wrigley Field or United Center where the Bulls, Blackhawks and Cubs
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Levi's as an embarrassment. It's an insult to the fans with half the stadium being dedicated to luxury boxes, the seats aren't covered, and the location is horrible.
It’s my least favorite stadium by far. I could see a franchise like the jaguars or browns building something like Levi’s stadium, but the 49ers? Shameful.
@@cities4ppl the I wear hip group is just a bunch of old money California libertarian finance bros. They get a free pass as horrible owners because the team actually does well on the field. But they treat the fan base so horribly. I stopped watching NFL games altogether as a result.
I lived in Phoenix and downtown is a joke, they should have built the stadium there not out in the boonies.
Phoenix needs to do a lot of in-fill in the city center and stop with the sprawl.
Alright wait a second, where haven’t you lived?
@@cities4ppl Lol, just three places.
I lived in Pheonix in 87-88. It's not much different now than it was then. Sad!
I saw the drone footage you included of it, but K.C. DEFINITELY should have made this list! There is nothing but car-centric hell around it. :/
I didn’t add KC because their fans actually show up and seem to somehow enjoy where the stadium is. Same with the Bills.
@@cities4pplI’m a Bills fan and I wish they would build our new stadium in downtown or somewhere relatively close to the city centre.
When they open the new stadium, a rail system should be built that easily connects the Bills Stadium (and Orchard Park) to Buffalo and they should build nearby bars and restaurants alongside roads at the stadium to make it more appealing to visitors. (Not like the Patriots mall but more-so like a town square)
To be fair, those stadiums opened in the 1960s when putting a stadium downtown wasn't a major sticking point.
The people who do that in 2023 are just failing to learn from 50 years.
Haha of course not like the Patriots!
Exactly - that’s why Levi’s stadium, State Farm and “Arlington park” is not acceptable imo. Recently built in boring and hard to get to locations.
I doubt there are many, if any, Bears fans from the city that go to Bears games.
Moving to Arlington Heights would ensure they never do.
Been to Hard Rock. It's certainly not an ideal location.
Miami is a tough city to execute a large development but gotta do better than this.
Actually the bears nrw stadium is simple. Th majority of the fans are people who have money and live in the north. They will probably have a huge parking lot. Plus they will avoid Lakeshore and i 94 traffic hours. I remember how my bosses always used to complain about driving to Chicago on game day.
A but of an over simplified way of looking at it. There’s no denying that the Northside is more appealing to the Bears owners. More so just sad that the Bears and Chicago can’t come to an agreement to keep them in Chicago.
The 49ers could very well be the San Jose 49ers
Or Santa Clara 49ers. Even better!
I'd sooner burn down Arlington Heights than see the Bears move there - and thats from a Packers fan
Looking more and more likely!
What???