Is the Aiyima T9 Cheap Tube Amp Worth the Hype?
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- Sometimes we come across a product where we immediately have an expectation bias. I saw the reviews, however, I wasn't convinced. For me, it's all about experience and hearing it for myself. In this video, I'll let you know exactly how it went with the Aiyima T9.
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Table of Contents:
0:00 Aiyima T9 Tube Amp
0:32 Ceremonious Unboxing
2:09 Introduction and Features
7:35 Sound Quality
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The company has since upgraded this item to the T9 Pro and it looks really encouraging. They put to rest all the bugs in the original T9, went with a lower profile tube buffer so they don't get pranged crooked quite so easily, and the new look -- while significantly different -- is a big winner with me. You should be the first to review it, since none of the other usual suspects have gotten around to it yet!
I will try and reach out to Aiyima to see if they would like me to take a look at it.
@@mykandrew I'd be very interested in your reactions if you get the chance -- and, if you're willing, I'd be especially interested in how the T9 Pro's internal DAC stacks up against a price-appropriate stand-alone comp like the Zen Air DAC.
Encouraged by the good quality of the T9 I upgraded to the T9 Pro yesterday. Apart from the digital display (for volume, source and level) a major difference is the more powerful power supply (32V 5A). It has less of a retro look, but the bronze applications and the shorter, less wobbly tubes inspire confidence. What I miss in ALL of the reviews is the discussion of the BT functionality, which was flawed on the T9 (have yet to test it on the T9 PRO which comes with an upgraded BT chip).
@@ThomasTVP If you happen to have a $100'ish stand-alone DAC, I would be extremely interested in your impressions of the T9 Pro as an all-in-one, vs bypassing the T9 Pro's DAC circuit to use it strictly as an integrated amp. It seems to me that if the DAC stage of the T9 Pro is good, and especially if it's noticeably good, it's going to be extremely difficult to beat in terms of the value proposition.
I bought this little amp and Im impressed how clean it sounds. Im a newbie to the whole HIFI world and really just want something with a small footprint I can fit into my home office without taking up too much space.
I picked up a T9 on a whim about 6 months ago when my old receiver gave up the ghost and have been really happy with it. My only quibble is that the sleep mode timer could use a few more seconds grace, but otherwise it's a great little unit for the money.
Agreed 👍
FYI: THE Aiyima T9 clicking sound problem can be fixed by long pressing the "M1" button on the remote
Thanks for the review. I have a t6 pro with an A07. Sounds great!
One of the other brands that this manufacturer - Nobsound - uses is "Douk Audio." The Douk Audio ST-01 is identical to the Aiyima T-9, BUT the ST-01 Pro differs from the Aiyima T-9 Pro in that it has the 3 knob setup and analogue VU meter, with the upgraded DAC and such of the Aiyima Pro. I just bought one, waited 3 weeks for it to arrive, and am very pleased with it thus far. From their eBay listing "Warm tips:
1. Add a M1 button on the remote control of ST-01 and ST-01 PRO, to turn on and off the function that it will auto enter mute mode when there is no signal input for 10S.
2. ST-01 PRO supports U-disk input to play lossless formats music.
3. Add sensitivity adjustment of VU meter on its bottom, easy to set and match better with different input signals.
4. Add three decorative golden circles around tubes and VU meter, looks more exquisite and luxury.
I found it on eBay for those interested.
I think you're asking too much from a piece of disposable audio. What do I mean by disposable? Well let's say it breaks, would you pay double it's worth to fix it? Or just buy another one or something else? The reason these Chi-Fi companies can sell at these prices is because their isn't much sophistication to the design. They are off the shelf parts that go into a device meant for a purpose. I am glad you found happiness within these types of products, it makes this hobby way less expensive!
I paired an Aiyima A07 with the T7 preamp. I feel the T7 uses a better tube the Russian 6H3N. I originally used the Aiyima T2 which uses the 6AK5 family (6K4, 6C1 etc.). Felt the sound tended to be brighter with less bottom end than the T7. When I changed the T7 to GE 5670Ws things got even better. Then upgraded the opamps in the A07 to LME49720s and added 13,200 uf of additional capacitance to the power supply. Imaging, bass, and sound stage are extremely good. It's now my daily driver in place of my vintage Proton 930 receiver.
I wish I had one to test, I love these types of little amps.
So wt u recommend with t9
@@mobeatzleedsPair of GE 5654w tubes.
@@kennethoransky4881 thanks bro will give them a try
I have one driving Advent Legacy III’s. Sounds fantastic. Did take a few hours playing for the sound to open up, but once it did it did. Worth picking up.
Do you get enough volume out of it? I don’t, and I have very small Sony speakers.
It's a free country. Use all the tone controls you want. Rather than spending thousands on room treatments, just turn a knob. I agree with you about condiments. Anybody that doesn't put mustard on a hot dog is a barbarian and needs to be punished!
Lol Speakers and room treatments before tone controls for sure. Lol 😆
I just returned a defective Douk Audio ST-01 and it is shipped in exactly the same box as the Aiyima that you show. Exactly.
Gotta love white label products from the same plant.
Would it be a good idea to pair t9 with A07 or use it standalone? Thx
Is it advisable to use it for Passive speakers for connecting it to TV?
Edit: Speakers I will be driving is Micca RB42.
I have order t9.waiting for delivery soon. Is it okay to pair with the old dali 2b speakers.?
why you cant use the 3.5mm to drive headphones? i have 2 heaphones that i wanted to try, and they are of low impedace, ( i dont have the amp yet, i waiting for it to arrive).
Can i use this as my primary amp for my HE400SE or do I need a different amp to drive my headphones? A few people told me that it's only a pre amp.
Do you have a link to the Indian tubes you use? I'd like to try them out. Thanks
How do you recommend connecting an EQ to this amp? Any recommendations? Thx
I have had this amp for about 2 months now, paired with Moukey 3 ways. Amazingly good sound for the money.
I wanted a headphone amp in line so I tried their A2 solid state preamp and felt that it severely deadened the sound. It's about 50 bucks and sounds like it would be. I then switched to their T8 tube pre/headphone amp and it is an amazing combination.
What sub would you recommend to pair with this? Something that won't sound loose or sloppy but with a price that makes sense for a bargain system?
Probably a Starke Sound SW10 or a SVS sb1000. I own both and they both are awesome options.
Would you let us know what op-amp you were considering to upgrade with and make some suggestions for other tubes to try. Also, are there any other economical amps with more power. I’m digging out my custom cabinet with some very high end Focal speakers that I’m guessing will need more power
I'm no hifi expert like you, and this is my first amp. I love it. just like you say! The stereo image is super. yes. It sings ! I turn up the bass just a bit. And that's only on a mediocre pair of speakers. I've spotted some Q acoustic 2020i speakers on ebay... think I will buy them. I run the FLAC from a USB into my android TV set top box through to a smart TV with HDMI, out of the optical cable to the amp. That way it's digital all the way into the DAC. Loving it.
Almost forgot. In a small 12x15ft living room.
can I use this as a stand alone dac?
Can it drive low db speakers?
so do you need to have your speaker wire attatched to rca plugs??? how do the speakers hook up??? and inputs are rca so you can use reg rca cables to hook up things like cd player or turntable?thank you for the video
You would attach your speakers to the speaker terminals. The RCA is for the source you are using like CD player, DAC, streamer etc.
Good review! I'm starting in this hobby and got one of these. I almost got the the a07 but these has some cool features. I'll pair them with JBL Stage A130s. Do you think is a good match at all? Using on my desktop setup
The A130's should be great with this amp. 👌
@@mykandrew Btw, do you think tube rolling works at all? Is it worth it?
Re-discovered tube amps today, the power to size ratio is mind blowing, I hate integrated amplifiers they're maintence intensive and energy vampires. Found this amp after a day of research, this review confirms all my suspicions, thanks for the info, with this I'll be upgrading my home studio for the first time in years.
Can I use it as a guitar amp?
I would like a preamp with tubes. Randy from cheap audio man lo es this aiyima! Thanks!!!! Great video!
Awesome, glad you liked the video!
Mikeeeeeeeeeeee thank you for the review mate. The company is very affordable here in greece.!!!
Thank you my friend I hope all is well. I have some new music coming soon for you 😉
How much amp it provides into 8 ohms around 1% distortion/ useable power? Couldn't find information on Amazon.
The TPA3221 chipset data sheet doesn't have a rating for 8 ohms unfortunately but I've heard people estimate it to be in the 40-50 watt range.
I bought one to drive my JBL E20's for ,y new M2 Pro Mac Mini upgrade and boy does she sound good.
For an inexpensive bookshelf system with a pair of ELAC Debut Reference speakers, which amp would you recommend, the LOXJIE A30, T9 Pro, AIYIMA D05, or even another one I haven't heard of? I'm leaning towards the T9, but researching amps in this price range (under $300) is overwhelming.
Are you limited by space?
@@mykandrew Not really, this is just a rather simple office setup. I'm more concerned with sound quality and having an optical input for the WiiM Pro I plan to use. I already use the PS Audio Sprout 100 for my main setup.
I would search the used market for something better than the Schenzen offerings or look into Schit Audio.
Also try Peachtree Audio.
Saw some Amazon review which some had problem with clicking sound ? Was about to pull the trigger but on hold for now. Any thought why some are facing this problem ? Thanks
I know which one you are referring to. I honestly think Sean got a bum unit. It happens from time to time in rhe industry, not sure why he didn't just switch it out.
I know which one you are referring to. I honestly think Sean got a bum unit. It happens from time to time in rhe industry, not sure why he didn't just switch it out.
@@mykandrew so the click sound is solved? sorry I have aiyima a08 but Bluetooth cannot connect to my iPod or Fiio dap and can only connect to laptop or phone only? most of my flac album are in my dap player . Can T9 connect to portable MP3 player with BT? thanks
@@EricWokei as long as you have a bluetooth connection from your source, which I never reccomend using if you want good quality sound, can be achieved with the T9
Just received mine. No clicking sound. Amazingly enough it powers my Acoustats THREE (4ohms, with a reputation for being power hungry) and a Jamo sub beautifully.
i would try some old tube sfrom old radio scommon philips onece like ecc83 or el84 that tubes are very common
Here in Greece we got so many problems buying great products especialy these produced in US.!!! So this is realy a huge obstacle for us here.!!!
did you try the internal dac?
It was satisfactory at best.
They have a t9 pro thats 200 watt now. Wonder how much it benches at 8 ohms per speaker
Not 200 watts I can guarantee you that. I would love to measure it but since my review of the T9 was a bit lukewarm for Aiyima they probably won't send me one ☹️
Liking this product and I may be naive as I didn’t know something like this existed.
i bought this... it sounds amazing... but did you know that the vu meter only works when there is sound on the left speaker only? try to play a right channel sound only and the vu meter doesnt move ^_^
Weird.
We are into unison about the tone tonality.!!! So into unison.!!!
“Being in the cockpit of your sound system, you deserve to have control of the tonality”
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Is the 120Watt rating Peak? I imagine it would be. Getting 120Watts out of tubes takes a lot more than those 2 little tubes.
Power Supply will only really improve the noise floor if it even has noticeable noise. Anything else would be plecebo effect.
Did you have any issues with clicking or with the input selector locking up? I've heard quite a few mixed reviews about that.
The tubes are just for coloration of the sound to add that distortion we all know and love. However here are my gripes after using it for a prolonged period. It's weak, it doesn't have that great of power output. I want to put it on a test bench because I dont think the 120 Watt rating will hold up. Another gripe is that it clicks off after like 5 seconds of not using it. Its said that its to protect the tubes.... I think it's a serious flaw and they are just flipping it as a feature rather than a weakness. Overall, its ok for desktop use however I can probably find way better options for around the same price. I will probably do a follow up video sharing my experience with objective measurements.
@@mykandrew Thanks for all that. Not sure how turning off after 5 seconds protects tubes, considering gear from the 30s to 60s didn't do that and a lot of those tubes are still good today. Sounds like an excuse to me....
Thanks again 🙂
How can I add a subwoofer on this unit?
There is a 3.5mm aux out on the back. Get a cable that has 3.5mm on one end and rca on the other. 🔥
@@mykandrew but the aux will be putting out the whole frequency range and not the lower range only.
Magnificient amplifier
I believe the output is 50watts per channel.
Is this Cheap audio guy’s brother?
Mad scientists... Thank god we are many.!!! 😆😆😆
I own many of these micro digital chip BT amps. I bought the T9 Pro to test it out. IMHO, it really is subpar and it weak. I compared the sound against five other chip amps I own and use from Douk, Fosi, Aiyima, etc. I used the same sound source, no added tone, same volume. The T9 Pro sounds distorted and "confused" while playing audio. IMHO, not worth the time or money. The best sounding micro amp I tested is the Douk Audio M1 PRO.
No wonder @aiyima doesn't want me to test the T9 Pro... makes sense.
50 watts per channel 100 total looking to get one but nobsound 6p1 look much better and class a tube not class d about 360.00 thanks for the video
I am in the process of reviewing the new model the T9 Pro and I will have some results for you in the coming days.
🤩clicking stop solution-🤩
To all those who bought this nifty little amp please press m1 on your remote to stop clicking in the amp worked on my unit no click feom then 🥳🥳🥳
I don't need a dac as I have an amazing 32 bit 348khz dac built into my device. Lol. It's a 25 watt at 8 ohms
I’m having too much trouble with this damn thing connecting to my phone so I think I’m going to get rid of it
A more objective argument for tone control or EQs is that everyone's hearing is different, and the more you age, the more you naturally lose the ability to hear high frequencies. Any argument that you shouldn't use tone control is simply idiotic.
Not really helpful if you just talk about this guy instead of powering it up and show what he can do...
very dark video, no details can be seen
Save your money and buy a brand name amp if you really want to get into audio then desktop amps are not worth your money if your stuck for room buy powered speakers instead as far as dacs go well that’s the new snake oil
Disagree completely, but you do you
I disagree as well. There's a clear difference between DACs and Products like these ARE good for people getting started that don't have $500+ laying around.
@@mykandrew They should just buy used equipment then as for a Dac I bought one and hooked it up to my 26 year old CD player and sonically I can’t tell a difference I doubt these low end Chinese manufacturers are truthful with specks and performance let’s not leave reliability out which is questionable at best
@@michaelgalanos981 I can gree with that 100%. Reliability is probably the biggest issue with disposable audio. I realize why you aren't hearing a sonic difference with your old CD Player. They actually made the output stages THAT good in the 80s and early 90s that it actually beats out alot of DACs of today. So I can get with that.
@@mykandrew Maybe so I do have a Marantz pro CD player the output stage for the Dac is a Texas Instruments op amp I am told these are good but at least it works and does what it claims to do