Anyone who goes on the show needs to realize that it is a production that needs to provide drama in order to increase ratings. It is not really about finding love to the producers. Unfortunately, the welfare of the couples comes a poor second.
Exactly! I guess the only good thing that MIGHT come out of it is once these people go on a reality show their chances of finding real love might increase. After they are humiliated of course.
I agree she's very intelligent, articulate, respectful and a very nice, gentle lady so I understand where you are coming from. On the other hand I totally understand why she was on the show. I think she genuinely was looking for love and unfortunately didn't find her match
Holly is much calmer here than in the prog where she was v wound up.. He simply didn’t give her a chance (& what he said to her about their physical relationship was disgraceful. Someone should NEVER say those comments and should be kind & tactful and just say physically things are at the early stage & it can take time)..
I watched their scene, Andrew telling Holly about how he was upset about the sex and he said he had a lot of one night stand and they r better than her experience with Holly i was like but that is why it is a one night stand because it’s lust and Holly is for marriage and should not compare, I would have felt the same way if i was her, i would be gone quickly.
Also he didn't even bother to ask if she had a good experience as well. He only cared about himself and how he didn't have a good night of sex. He acted like it's her job to give him good sex in spite of her own feelings. his is a major problem with men unfortunately. Their pleasure is always more important to the point where sex ends when the man reaches orgasm. Women's pleasure is always second.
Holly was treated really badly by Andrew. He should have been kicked of the show. Olivia was vile to her because she is a vile spiteful creep and the show loved her. Very unfair on Holly.
I think the saving grace with the edit is that the viewer for the most part saw that Andrew was a shit, narcissistic person. From the edit, the viewer knew full well that the group was being gaslighted and I know I was astounded by how seemingly 'gullible' the cast was with not being able to see through him. But then again, I guess it helps if the audience does understand what narcissist abuse is. Yes, Holly was portrayed as a little bit of a hippie at times with the spiritual stuff but overall I think the edit did at least show who was the abuser and who was the victim in that relationship.
I agree. Watching Andrew gaslight the rest of the cast with his fake breakdown was hard to see. I'm not surprised that they didn't see through the act because it's classic narcissistic manipulation and Holly bore the brunt of it very unfairly. I wish the others had been able to see what the viewers did because it was pretty obvious who was the abuser in that relationship.
Geez what I saw I thought he was an arsehole straight away! I felt so sorry for Holly the whole time. I thought they shud have put her with Anthony but yeah they've got a hit show to produce n the contestants feelings don't matter to them. Holly deserves the best. I always think when something bad happens in life something good has to happen to balance it out so I hope u got your good things Holly!
UA-cam won't let me type the word I want to use to describe Andrew, but it starts with a C, ends in a T and has the initials of the United Nations in the middle 😤
A bit late but I think Holly and Andrew are both OK people but they were just not right for each other. So that's the casting directors fault. I wish both of them well.
She was not the smartest, tbh. I couldn’t believe how quickly she judged the guy based on an assumption of his political views. With that type of holier than thou behaviour it’s hard. Zero accountability. If someone is honest with you, look for how best you can adjust rather than get offended.
I'm glad there is at least one person in this comment section who also sees through her BS. She's putting ALL the blame on everyone else except herself. And I'm not saying he was perfect, but even if he was "gaslighting" he at least owned up to his part.
Yes That's the problem i had all the way through they could have played back all the things andrew did to holly everything that we see that the cast didnt And all the stuff edited going on holly saying we only see 1 percent of what went on and what was said WOW They could of showed snip bits throughout the show or done a complete re run of there time together and highlighted andrews behaviour to holly And its crazy and wrong that the 1 percent we did see the cast didnt even see all of that let alone the other 99 percent we didnt see and the cast So andrew walked away with cast not seeing a chunk of the 1 percent and us not seeing the other 99 percent So andrew walked away unscaved leaving holly looking like she is to blame mental I am pleased to hear although to late going on what holly has said the cast must have seen the other 99 percent for them to say my god holly we didnt realise But she had already been nailed to the wall throughout Not a very good portrayal on the people who suffered Tv shows should not be allowed to let someone be treated like that playing with there lives for getting high ratings should not be allowed Andrew walked away thinking he did nothing wrong because the show didnt show all what he had done wrong to holly
Holly is such a sweet and compasion woman, she dicurved better! he is a narcissist! i think the team do this one purpess to break people heart just to get a lot of viewers!!
Pain and drugs no strictly dont listen to that ah nar that is even bad if u communicate with world yes i tryed to do this but got cut out but dident worry ok
He was an absolute asshole! But i disliked her to, she acted like in 2 weeks or how long she was in it, like her spirit was broken come ooon! 😖 I was cringing so bad when she had that speech! Plus she has shown to be very nasty to! I'm not saying she's a bad woman but she's not perfect either!
This show is as exploitative as things can get. They choses participants with major flaws and mental issues, knowing very well drama and controversy will ensue. Most participants have 2 things in common, selfish and narcistic. Having said that, I can't wait for 2023.
Love you holly. You're a ripper of a woman. I appreciate how authentic and head strong you are.
I loved Holly on the show ❤️ I never got why the other women get annoyed, just because she is a wee spark of positive energy? 💗
I love Holly she is one of the most genuine person I've ever watched in a reality show.
Being 65, Holly called it Right! He’s the Narc & projects his own Narcissistic character on her! So glad you Called It Holly! You Deserve the Best!
Being 65?
@@Bexks Being older with my mistakes experience!
@@katherinekieffer5022 Oh, you being 65?! I thought you meant Holly lol 😂. I’m 54 myself girl, not far behind you ☺️
I'm 37 with a few grey hairs. I wish Holly nothing but the best
I am so sorry Holly. He was an absolute Jerk. The rude stuff he said was unreal.
Anyone who goes on the show needs to realize that it is a production that needs to provide drama in order to increase ratings. It is not really about finding love to the producers. Unfortunately, the welfare of the couples comes a poor second.
Exactly! I guess the only good thing that MIGHT come out of it is once these people go on a reality show their chances of finding real love might increase. After they are humiliated of course.
Holly is a stunning looking woman who comes across as intelligent and articulate so it blows my mind that she would go on this show
I agree she's very intelligent, articulate, respectful and a very nice, gentle lady so I understand where you are coming from. On the other hand I totally understand why she was on the show. I think she genuinely was looking for love and unfortunately didn't find her match
Holly is much calmer here than in the prog where she was v wound up.. He simply didn’t give her a chance (& what he said to her about their physical relationship was disgraceful. Someone should NEVER say those comments and should be kind & tactful and just say physically things are at the early stage & it can take time)..
I hope you find love Holly and you get your baby xx
None of us thought you was crazy. We all saw through him but we also saw through Olivia
Poor Holly. She deserved so much more than the show gave her.
I watched their scene, Andrew telling Holly about how he was upset about the sex and he said he had a lot of one night stand and they r better than her experience with Holly i was like but that is why it is a one night stand because it’s lust and Holly is for marriage and should not compare, I would have felt the same way if i was her, i would be gone quickly.
Also he didn't even bother to ask if she had a good experience as well. He only cared about himself and how he didn't have a good night of sex. He acted like it's her job to give him good sex in spite of her own feelings.
his is a major problem with men unfortunately. Their pleasure is always more important to the point where sex ends when the man reaches orgasm. Women's pleasure is always second.
She dodged a bullet by dismissing Andrew. He was full of himself and so self centered.
Holly was treated really badly by Andrew. He should have been kicked of the show. Olivia was vile to her because she is a vile spiteful creep and the show loved her. Very unfair on Holly.
I think the saving grace with the edit is that the viewer for the most part saw that Andrew was a shit, narcissistic person. From the edit, the viewer knew full well that the group was being gaslighted and I know I was astounded by how seemingly 'gullible' the cast was with not being able to see through him. But then again, I guess it helps if the audience does understand what narcissist abuse is. Yes, Holly was portrayed as a little bit of a hippie at times with the spiritual stuff but overall I think the edit did at least show who was the abuser and who was the victim in that relationship.
I agree. Watching Andrew gaslight the rest of the cast with his fake breakdown was hard to see. I'm not surprised that they didn't see through the act because it's classic narcissistic manipulation and Holly bore the brunt of it very unfairly. I wish the others had been able to see what the viewers did because it was pretty obvious who was the abuser in that relationship.
Hippie? What spiritual stuff? The only thing I saw was holly talking to her mirror and the vision board 😂😅 I’m on episode 3 right now though lol
beautiful 🤩 and most honest
Geez what I saw I thought he was an arsehole straight away! I felt so sorry for Holly the whole time. I thought they shud have put her with Anthony but yeah they've got a hit show to produce n the contestants feelings don't matter to them. Holly deserves the best. I always think when something bad happens in life something good has to happen to balance it out so I hope u got your good things Holly!
some of these contestants are really hurt by their experience hopefully not long lasting. The programme is very exploitative
Ma’am we picked up on him from the beginning.. just like when we picked up on Olivia after she went off on you.
Good luck to you
UA-cam won't let me type the word I want to use to describe Andrew, but it starts with a C, ends in a T and has the initials of the United Nations in the middle 😤
Good insight into the process. They were certainly not suited.
Holy you are a beatiful individual a d am glad u ztood up to that arrogant Bully. You had a narrow escape from that Texan
glad you called him out Holly, toxic narcissist that he was, you held onto your truth and we could see that, editing or no editing
Holly is absolutely beautiful inside and out ❤❤
The fact that people go on these shows and then act shocked when their "marriages" don't work 🤣🤣🤣
she’s my top favourite 💸🏦💵
Really love Holly!!
Love you Hollie ❤😊❤
She is like a Magic Pixie Dream Girl (example Jessica Day from the New Girl series) and Stifler's mother from “American Pie” in one person.
Experts lol... putting a narc in a relationship... absolutely missing tbe absolute basics...
A bit late but I think Holly and Andrew are both OK people but they were just not right for each other. So that's the casting directors fault. I wish both of them well.
She was not the smartest, tbh. I couldn’t believe how quickly she judged the guy based on an assumption of his political views. With that type of holier than thou behaviour it’s hard. Zero accountability. If someone is honest with you, look for how best you can adjust rather than get offended.
I'm glad there is at least one person in this comment section who also sees through her BS. She's putting ALL the blame on everyone else except herself.
And I'm not saying he was perfect, but even if he was "gaslighting" he at least owned up to his part.
The whole show is discussing.who gets married like that.there were no experts in the show.
The only normal ones in that season were Holi and Antoni!! ❤❤❤
I loved your positivity and he did not deserve your beautiful Saul. The universe definitely saved you from him. Lots of love.
They should have paired her with Dion they would have been 🔥🔥 together they both wanted the same and they both wanted love ❤
We saw through that jerk and am sorry you didnt have real/live support
This show is just super exploitative
Holly is my type of woman, i wish i was on that show and paired w her
Yes
That's the problem i had all the way through they could have played back all the things andrew did to holly everything that we see that the cast didnt
And all the stuff edited going on holly saying we only see 1 percent of what went on and what was said WOW
They could of showed snip bits throughout the show or done a complete re run of there time together and highlighted andrews behaviour to holly
And its crazy and wrong that the 1 percent we did see the cast didnt even see all of that let alone the other 99 percent we didnt see and the cast
So andrew walked away with cast not seeing a chunk of the 1 percent and us not seeing the other 99 percent
So andrew walked away unscaved leaving holly looking like she is to blame mental
I am pleased to hear although to late going on what holly has said the cast must have seen the other 99 percent for them to say my god holly we didnt realise
But she had already been nailed to the wall throughout
Not a very good portrayal on the people who suffered
Tv shows should not be allowed to let someone be treated like that playing with there lives for getting high ratings should not be allowed
Andrew walked away thinking he did nothing wrong because the show didnt show all what he had done wrong to holly
Holly is such a sweet and compasion woman, she dicurved better! he is a narcissist! i think the team do this one purpess to break people heart just to get a lot of viewers!!
Hay u captian holly
Wonder no hubby know this good buby
The show certainly showed Holly as a loopy!
Pain and drugs no strictly dont listen to that ah nar that is even bad if u communicate with world yes i tryed to do this but got cut out but dident worry ok
Poor Holly 😂
Playing the victim. Why would she write stay?
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He was an absolute asshole! But i disliked her to, she acted like in 2 weeks or how long she was in it, like her spirit was broken come ooon! 😖 I was cringing so bad when she had that speech! Plus she has shown to be very nasty to! I'm not saying she's a bad woman but she's not perfect either!
He use exubrence from clean
Apple
I don't like you. Holly.
No
Kids
Drama queen... 🙄🙄🙄
Habuby
Relax babes do shopping ok
And holly hubby people are grazy on money drugs no like hub an bubs invided
Who is that lott full on fool
This show is as exploitative as things can get. They choses participants with major flaws and mental issues, knowing very well drama and controversy will ensue. Most participants have 2 things in common, selfish and narcistic. Having said that, I can't wait for 2023.