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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- At farmers Markets sharpening knives has to be done fasy and Very Sharp. Here is my process.
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I have seen this video maybe 8 times. But anytime I get back to it, I am amazed! Great job! Greatly improved process! Beautiful result!
thanks for the complement.
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Holy shit! I was wondering why you had so many different sharpeners. Now i get it. Saves so much time on change overs and if your not happy with results you just move back a step. I subscribed a week ago and only wish i would have found you sooner.
Hi and great videos PG, keep it up. On reading some of the comments from others and your replies to them one of them asked you how you bend (set) the bits of silver armature wire to the correct angle. Its a great idea having the armature wire as a set reference point for freehand sharpening and the results that you achieve are brilliant. You commented that you would talk about it a bit more in part 2. I would certainly like to see exactly how you do this and try it myself.
Again Great job with your info in your videos !!!.
Im using laser now. far far better. Videos coming soon.
Nice to watch a real pro knock off a knife in a minute. Awesome.
Thx. More videos this week. SUBSCRIBE so you don’t miss out
Great process! I've been establishing a bevel on a similarly beat up knife (half the size) for days using a set of tiny, pocket diamond stones. Almost have a burr. What a difference a wheel makes!
OH MY YOUR SETUP ROCKS.
Thanks for the video, I like that farmers market environment too,man.Nice people and cool things to purchase at the farmers market.
For me markets are best. Lots of bartering goes on. But it’s the people, kids and dogs.
Plus it’s only a 4-5 hour work day.
Very cool. Thanks for sharing. 👍🇺🇸
I've gotten that comment before. But every time I get very busy I can really run thru a lot of knives fast. Ive seen other setups where in a big truck they have a couple sharpening tools and a lot of unused counters. I'd want more tools if I had space. I like tools!
Thanks for sharing your setup. I’m going to try this out and see if I can keep my production and consistency at the same level as it is now. I’m would like to get away from the grinder dust 1x30 makes. I’m doing 3 markets so it needs to be quick turnarounds. People aren’t patient lol. Thanks again
At my Sunday market (my best) I just had my best day. In 5 hours I did 200 knives. Of course I take my wife to handle the customers. If I’m on my own 80 knives is the most I’ve done and it’s stressful cuz you get so behind.
My forearm was cramping the last hour bad from pushing on the course wet stone hard. That’s the step that takes the effort. All other steps are lighter pressure.
To keep your quality figure out the best testing step and never skip it.
@@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER wow that’s some production.
How strange to have this video pop up, your system has quite a few similarities to what i use myself though I am no where near as fast and proficient as you are.
I use a tormek to re-grind a bevel if needed, a hard deburring wheel to smooth it and then unfortunately I don't have the super fine stone you have so I go to an mdf wheel with fine compound for the final edge. Very slick setup on your trailer there, I like it.
I’m impressed that you can do that freehand.
practice with a lot of knives.
Oh C'mon man! For me to sharpen a knife that fast on my Wicked Edge my arms would have to be a blurr! Gonna have to drink more coffee I guess..
Wicked edge is perfect for Pet Knives, not for other people’s abused,disrespected cutlery.
Excellent!
That’s a nice rikon belt sander. May i ask where you purchased?
I don't remember. better to buy any brand and upgrade. see UA-cam videos. some guy sells parts for all upgrades. better motor, stronger tension spring and bearings. good luck
Hot damn! This is legit!
Thank you for your videos. Would you be so kind as to put links up for some of your tools and possibly explain your metal pointer and how you attached it for knowing where to hold the blade to achieve the angles you desire? Specifically interested in the woven and polish wheels on your smaller grinder motor. thank you
Most of my tools are modified so identifying them is only part of what the tool has become. As for the pointer. It’s found on Amazon. It’s 1/4” armature wire. It’s used as a framework inside clay sculptures. It’s actually flexible aluminum. I mounted mine in the tool clamp holes.
@@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Thank you, I appreciate you sharing your info.
I just found your channel and enjoyed watching. I was wondering if you have a website or calandar showing when and where you will be out sharpening. I'm local to you and would love to get a couple knife edges from you...
Errol Korpinen I’m not at any markets due to Covid. But I setup in my driveway Saturday’s. 8182572051
real world, really fast, super sharp and no jig's (I guess tormek hate you for that).
nice work!
Thanks for your comments. I’ve got more sharpening instructions and equipment hacks shot but waiting for editing. Standby!
@@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER I hope you publish em soon
Looking forward to learning your process of taking the finger guard down.
Maybe someday do a video on getting correct angles and setting up the armature wire.
916wilton thanks for your suggestions. Can you clarify your Finger guard part. I can’t figure what item are you referring to. Thx. SUBSCRIBE To get latest videos every couple days.
@@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Really enjoying your videos. As for the finger guard, timestamp 2:49
Now I understand. I use my belt sander to shape it and then the fine scotch bright wheel to finish. The ginger guard is softer steel. SUBSCRIBE and get new videos as soon as they come out. I’ll put this question in my future episode list. Thx
I’m very interested in this setup. Two questions, 1) Do you feel that the Japanese water stone is necessary for the process, or would a less costly stone of lower grit work as well, and 2) Do you believe the Wen and Tormek machines will specifically outperform 2 belt sanders in their place? Just trying to keep costs contained, but not at the expense of quality! Thanks.
1) You do not need the sj250 but I have found it's quicker to get the same consistent edge quality every time. The sj250 lasts a long time. I might get 30,000 knives on it. That said I know lots of guys use a setup with 2 belt sanders with different grit belts 180 - 320 and a polishing wheel to remove the burr. It works but also makes a lot more dust and I seem to slightly round the edge when de-burring on the polishing wheel. After I use the sj250 putting on a micro bevel the burr removes so easy I don't round the edge. Another guy on the internet who uses a Tormek with jigs and the strop wheel who gets great results better than I can but he spends 15 min on a knife. I spend 1.5 - 2 min per knife. 150 - 300 knives in a 5hr market.
2) belts are faster. Belts are also a must for thinning and heavy edge removal. You must have a belt sander!
As far as cost, I have done several different process and settled on my process. For me its fast and very little dust. Customers watch me at farmers markets and see the wet stones. Sometimes I can tell they are checking how I sharpen. It seems the guys delivering the lowest quality in my area happen to use belts, its fast, cheap and easy. That said quality guys can also use belts, it just depends on how much you care.
Sharpening is a cat that can be skinned 100 ways. What ever you start with will only be what you start with! Your experience and curiosity will guide your final process. good luck
Thank you very much for such a helpful answer! I’ll post you as I progress!
@@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Mr. Peter, in theory if you sharpen 1 knife per minute you can sharpen 300 in a 5 hour market shift, but realistically how many knives do you sharpen in a normal market day?
I am about to start a sharpening business in Australia and I would like to know how much work can I expect to do.
Thanks heaps for making and uploading very informative videos 😉👍
@@redangrybird7564 I average about 120 items in a market average. Max 200. But those days kill me. And I really need my wife to be at the front table. I only work 2 days a week average
@@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Thank you Mr. Peter for the quick response, most UA-cam sharpeners rarely mention their average day, perhaps some of them make too many knives and some others too few. If I can make 70 per day on Saturday and Sunday I'll be more than happy.
Thanks again for the videos and the information 😉👍
I admire your workmanship very much. I have a question, and I hope it’s not a stupid one. I see you sharpen your knives with the wheel turning away from you. I also see the Tormek videos sharpening with the wheel turning towards the operator. Can you please explain why you do it your way instead of the Tormek way. Thanks.
My guess: Given the high pressure used, it is safer/more comfortable to turn away. Where with Tormek turning in gives less burr
Ever try the paper wheel system?
Yes I did. I even tried it again recently. Many love it. Perhaps if I stuck with it perhaps I’d like it more.
I enjoyed seein your set-up. Is there a reason you just did not use two Wen machines, they are much less expensive? Thank you
I’ve had the tormek for 12 years. I would be surprised if the Wen made it that long as hard as I push it.
I have had the tormek for 12 years. I push the tormek hard. The wen has my 4000 grit stone and gets less abuse. I think the wen is fine for 95% of users and for my 4000 grit stone but not as hard as I push the Tormek.
By pushing I mean I apply about 11 pounds of down pressure on a knife while sharpening on a coarsely graded stone
Wait so you have a scotch brite pad in the water tray? How do you keep it in there against the wheel?
sorry i am a bit late to the party...great video, can i ask is the angle on the sg stone and japanese stone the same. I thought you put a micro bevel on the japanese stone but on the comments it looks like the micro bevel might go on at the final polish.
I do a micro bevel with the sj250. Otherwise matching bevels freehand is too difficult to be consistent
Hi PG- Great vid's. And Thank you! I looked up Woodturners Wonders. They do have rolled radius CBN wheels- at quite a price though. I have a question on your deburring wheel. I read in the comments you mentioned it was a Scoth-Brite. I looked them up- quite a selection. Is there one in particular you are using? I've got some 8" rock hard felt wheels and I'd like to mount a deburring wheel on one side. I'll be using a Rikon 8" 1750 rpm grinder to mount them. Thank you for your time.
de burring wheel-www.mscdirect.com/product/details/81244113
look here for cbn wheels and best wet grinder. its the best but $$$ (2 week return no shipping cost)
Tradesman Edge 810 DC Variable Speed Bench Grinder
WOW! thats is so much quicker tahn me!!
Can you please tell the material/brand of the left black wheel on your grinder, that you start deburring on? Looks like a fine scotch-brite or nylon. Thank you
My supplier takes the sticker off before selling. It is very fine and hard, for a non woven wheel. Perfect edge cutlery, San Mateo. ca sells them, I think they call it an edging wheel $$
What’s the name of that scotch brite like wheel?
I would love to have all the specialty configurations you have but assume I will have only a single tormek machine with the SG-250 and the SJ-250 wheel. I do not have the separate grinder with the scotchbrite and rock hard felt wheel. Missing those two extra wheels would I still be able to achieve a similar result to what you have? In other words, what steps would I have to augment by not having the scotchbrite and rock hard felt wheel?
Sure you can skin the cat many ways. But you just have to practice the technique to get your desired results. And expect it to be slower.
@@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER I have an old Craftsman 6" bench grinder (not slow speed, maybe 3400 rpm?), maybe these wheels you use could be mounted to this.
Hello, I am just starting out and would like to replicate your setup. Would you see any reason to not get 3 WENs with good quality stones on them?
I have added,subtracted steps and several times. I don’t think 3 is necessary. Plan on getting a procedure that consistently delivers sharp edges. Then adjust the process to fit what you want.
I like wens. Cheap, durable, I can remove the strop wheel Tormek still has a drone wheel that’s in my way when the stones get smaller. That said if you plan to use jigs tormek is better.
@@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Thank you so much for responding.
just wondering what angle you are starting your angle at? great and helpful vid ! thanks
It depends on quality of the knife, kinda more of a quality guess.
First grind roughly 12 -15 degrees. 2nd bevel 15-20 degrees.
Better to error on larger number cuz loosing a couple degrees is imperceptible but too sharp goes dull too fast. And customers notice that.
And always test every knife. Customers bring me knives straight from other sharpeners that can’t cut any thing. They must not be testing, or caring.
Ok yep that's about what im doing. I just have a Wen wheel and most of the time using a fine grit on it. I have used the 2x42 to try and set a bevel then use the Wen. so when you go to the belt sander what grit is good to finish with? yes I find it better to use the 1x30 than my 2x42 just easier. Not much of a knife sharping business here on Molokai HI but I make about 40+ knives a year for the hunters. thanks again!!@@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
Liked and Subscribed. 👍I hope you do some new videos. TY. 😊
How do you sharpen serrated knives?
I have two ways. Subscribe and you will get notifications for future videos on Sharpening. But with out going into to much here but most of the time you can grind the flat back. Polish the burr away. Many more details though
2 questions please. 1. Can this be done with one WEN wheel and using the stone to change grits half way through. 2. Can you provide a link for the scotch bite type wheel and the hard felt wheel?
1- yes the design of the wheel is to set bevel and make corrections with the stone graded to course. Then grade to fine. Work the bevel with fine grit. Then go to the leather strop. Don’t round you new edge by running on strop longer than necessary or doing it at the wrong angle. Expect disappointment on your first try. If you do have trouble think about what could have gone wrong and try again. Angle control is hardest to learn. Tormek sells jigs to solve this. But much slower. SUBSCRIBE and get updates. A Wen update and tip coming next.
@@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER is this the scotch brite wheel: www.amazon.com/3M-Scotch-Brite-Convolute-Silicon-Deburring/dp/B0006N7KYU/ref=sr_1_31?dchild=1&keywords=scotch+brite+wheel&qid=1589482079&sr=8-31
is this the hard felt wheel: www.amazon.com/Marathon-Felt-Polishing-Wheel-Arbor/dp/B07BHBG7YD/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=hard+felt+wheel&qid=1589482147&sr=8-3
Pg i would to like links to the two wheels on your center machine, can they be found online? Thank you for spreading the knowledge in such a comfortable pleasing way 👌👍
Thankyou
Hi Mr Peter, perhaps you could make a video on how did you start your sharpening business.
Thanks, stay safe ✌😷
On the board. Thx
Interesting setup, This is basically the "ease of use" I was looking for...
The jigs and all those settings get tiresome...
I operated in an easy tent up for 2 years at farmers markets. 1hr setup and 1 hr load out. And my pickup was always full of tools and tables/tent. This is better and still open to be visible to your customers and fresh air.
@@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Very true...
Any thoughts about using the svd-110 tool rest in conjunction with your setup for people newer to sharpening (and thus people with a less stead hand)?
I have that rest. I tried it at the beginning and with the grind wheels rotation going away from the apex I find it pulls the knife. And having the wheel go towards the apex causes water to go all over the place as I remember. All that said I haven’t tried it for many year and I’ll try it again next time I’m setup. But Covid 19 has closed my business down for now. I’ll update this after I try it.
You bought the 4K tormek Japanese whetstone and you use it in your wen if I were to do the exact same thing would it work? Or did you modify it in anyway
Just add a washer to fill in the recessed center on former wheels 1/8" thick washer works
I have a used SJ250 that is now 8" If you are in USA and willing to pay $120. let me know.
I guess the WEN next to the Tormek is a good endorsement for the dirt cheap WEN.
Time will tell. But I’ve sharpened more knives on it than most will in a lifetime, I suspect.
Love this system! Thank you for making this video.
I'm a sucker for details so I'd love to see links to your gear in the description, especially the wheels on the the grinder.
Next up...more on that mobile market thing. Is it a trailer? Sets up nice at the market. How do you power your tools at the market? Cost?
I did a market for a while but the lugging the tools and the time it takes to sharpen caused me to leave. I think a system like this is important to make a market worth while.
Just knives, or do you do scissors, tools, etc?
Appreciate you!
My UA-cam views are very low with this series so it’s a Buzz kill for the effort it takes. This video had many sound problems due to my lack of experience. But now that Covid closed “Artisans” category in the farmer’s markets. So I’m sitting with no work for a while.
I have a unique mod that works great on the belt sander. I’ll try a video showing this mod and how it aids in thinning a knife.
@@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Do you have another channel? From my perspective you're getting great views with 35 subscribers and 6 videos. Just takes time, man. Hope you keep at it.
Yes. Unrelated subject though.
“Peter Gick “ or search “zodiac Futura 60 hp”
thanks.Where did you get that trailer?
sorry - just found your trailer vid - ua-cam.com/video/6_Gd7iiprK8/v-deo.html
I built it myself. I’m a retired fabricator. I did a video on it. Thanks for appreciating it.
People under estimate the value in how your setup looks. Not to mention making my life much easier.
It would have been nice if you provided some guidance on how it is exactly you got the right angle after you've been so meticulous determining it. What is up with people suggesting the sun shines 365 days a year in California to the point that people mention it when it rains. Absurd.
I mentioned going online to find a visual for angle. In these videos keeping the short is a priority. I was struggling with all that had to be said. Perhaps in part 2 I’ll talk about this a bit more.
@@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER That makes sense.You touched on it briefly when you mentioned those posts. Getting the right angle is something I struggle with, not just visually and physically, which I do, but which & why? At this point I'm just guestimating and using a belt sander with varying grit belts, from 120 to 1000. Nothing professional like yours. I get pretty good results, depending. Some knives seem to develop a burr I need a leather strop for and others don't. I don't know if it's the metal or what, and I don't want to make a career out of it. I mean, I guess I could, but then all those years of college would feel like a waste, but I'm more interesting in just having the sharpest knives around. As a Boyscout (I know, terrible, right?) we were taught that dull knives are more dangerous than sharp ones, & so I try to keep mine all as sharp as possible. Thanks for the video!!!!
Looks great! How much?
Please elaborate.
@@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER - Where do you ply your trade and how much do you charge? Say for a 10" Wustohf chef's knife? Oh, do you do mail order?
No mail order. The going rate around me Southern California is $1 per inch $6 min per knife.
Interesting video. Too bad he doesn’t know proper sharpening technique with Tormek. Cringe worthy...
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Was the knife not sharp enough? It sure seemed pretty sharp. My process is for a professional having to do a lot of knives. Not 1or2 Pet knives. But I’m respectful of any sharpener who can get a knife sharp no matter how he get it done. I’ve read blogs where a single knife being prepared for competition took 3 days. I’m absolutely sure it was sharper than any knife I hope to produce. But how would I price out a 3 day Sharpening job?
Rude Larry
Larry, Why don't you enlighten us?