The best (and worst) eras of motoring in India | Deep Drive Podcast Ep. 21 | Autocar India

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  • @gauthamsuhaas6225
    @gauthamsuhaas6225 5 місяців тому +71

    Watching Hormazd speaking his heart out on cars is pure bliss. I request Autocar to continue this show as long as possible.

  • @chandan4156
    @chandan4156 5 місяців тому +25

    Honda City was one of the iconic cars in India.... It made Honda in india.

  • @dheerajdmoto
    @dheerajdmoto 5 місяців тому +28

    My favourite car Era was 2012-2018
    Figo S diesel, Ecosport, Punto Abarth, City Vtec 4th gen, Swift, Polo GT TSI/TDI, Baleno RS, Civic Diesel, Rapid DSG, Polo GTI, Octavia vRS
    2nd Best was 2007-2012
    Lancer, Accord, Civic, CRV, City, Cedia, Octavia, Laura, Swift

    • @vm-my6hg
      @vm-my6hg 5 місяців тому

      Some day we're gonna tell our grand kids "those were the days" 😊

    • @blackbirds1440
      @blackbirds1440 5 місяців тому +1

      The BS VI was the worst decision in India's automotive history. It just killed small engines with emission norms. It was more of an activism led decision than a business driven one. Cars just became ridiculously expensive after BS VI.

    • @jereignjayavenhenryjohn6802
      @jereignjayavenhenryjohn6802 5 місяців тому

      Nice 👏 not even a single SUV..... U truly are a car enthusiast

    • @darpanbhuyan1909
      @darpanbhuyan1909 5 місяців тому +1

      you're forgetting both the old (2006) and new (2012) Fiesta sedan. Out of the entire lot of cars named above, it was the best handling by a fair margin.

  • @jereignjayavenhenryjohn6802
    @jereignjayavenhenryjohn6802 5 місяців тому +24

    As a Malaysian.....who likes cars..... I find India automotive history to be interesting. So much better than Malaysia auto history. Get your dream cars or bikes boys and girls before every car, every bike and everything goes electric.

    • @kiran75424
      @kiran75424 4 місяці тому +2

      dude you get honda I-v tech turbo there but here we don't get honda I-v tech turbo here

  • @barfnite
    @barfnite 5 місяців тому +23

    The merc window switch in the tata estate that always blew and cost 5 k each to replace 😂

  • @prabhankatesar4728
    @prabhankatesar4728 4 місяці тому +7

    Hormazd, long time back you had a program where viewers could ask questions about cars and bikes and have their problems solved. I would like you to please again start a program on those lines in the near future.

  • @jagadishdasari6466
    @jagadishdasari6466 5 місяців тому +13

    Please bring details of what goes into making a car and why not all manufacturers are unable to compete with features at same price point.
    Hyundai Vs Maruti Vs Mahindra Vs Tata Vs Citroen

  • @nitinmodi6675
    @nitinmodi6675 5 місяців тому +9

    As CA Student in 1989 Got the chance to Audit Fiat plant of Kurla and Dombivali Mumai Maharashtra the walchand group.Most of the indian first car in 1985 to 2000 was mostly Maruti.🙏

  • @ethanhunt937
    @ethanhunt937 5 місяців тому +3

    When Hormazd speaks, I listen carefully!! He is pure music to ears

  • @psg5772
    @psg5772 5 місяців тому +2

    Even Maruti 800 had a waiting period of 2-3 years. People used to sell used 800 cars at the price they bought after using them 2-3 years. New cars had a premium like crazy & you needed to have a connection to get your car early. Later Maruti tapped the Premium market itself by launching TK (TatKal) model at premium price 😊

  • @rajkumarvpost
    @rajkumarvpost 5 місяців тому +1

    I remember my father reading Hormazd's reviews on Indian auto journal in the mid 1980s. His review of a red BMW 3 series in the 1980s was a dream for me

  • @humairaalam6664
    @humairaalam6664 5 місяців тому +1

    Dear mr hormazd and mr. Sergius, thank you for another wonderful podcast. the first diesel engine (Perkins make) was introduced in the Mahindra cj 500 d Jeep and fc 260 d pick up in 1977. In Feb. 1984 the hm Contessa was launched with the 1489 cc petrol engine with 4 speed manual gearbox from the ambassador. In 1988 the Contessa classic was launched with the 1817 cc Isuzu petrol engine and 5 speed gearbox. this power train was installed in the ambassador from 1996 to 97 onwards.

  • @charishraju
    @charishraju 5 місяців тому +6

    In 1994 I was doing a marketing project at Hindustan Motors in Calcutta..those days many HM dealers were shifting from HM dealerships to other brands gradually…
    Management’s one reply was why would we invest in R & D when we are selling all we are producing

    • @vm-my6hg
      @vm-my6hg 5 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing

    • @Newbutold
      @Newbutold 4 місяці тому

      Company run by babus went bankrupt

  • @MrDebranjandutta
    @MrDebranjandutta 5 місяців тому

    Growing up as a kid in Kolkata with an Amby, a Premier 118NE and the original Maruti Zen, this episode was very nostalgic. I drive a Punch EV now, so really fortunate to have witnessed the evolution of motoring in our country. Delightful talk this was. Thank you.

  • @Raaga2208
    @Raaga2208 5 місяців тому +2

    Please make a video on the life of the autocar editorial test team,it’s really nice to hear about mr.Sorabjee’s experience with cars

  • @Aditya-gm8uf
    @Aditya-gm8uf 5 місяців тому +2

    Sobarajee is very smart i watched almost all episode of podcast series

  • @hk4848
    @hk4848 5 місяців тому +1

    I remember the 50th anniversary of Indian independence when in auto car when he had made a edition from fuel price in india during 1947 to every thing.

  • @saurabhaloriya3950
    @saurabhaloriya3950 4 місяці тому

    The last comments from Mr. Hormazd is so true. We have not gone global yet.

  • @sandeshnigam3391
    @sandeshnigam3391 5 місяців тому +1

    Today's Podcast was better.
    Both of you guys especially Sergius made good attempt to keep the show balanced. Hormaz was definitely driving the show.
    Suggestion regarding few Topics
    Many Automobiles company launch product which fails to capture Audience both in city and rural areas.
    Few Examples -
    Tempo Dreirad
    Bajaj PTV,
    HM Contessa,
    Fiat Sienna,
    Mahindra Xylo, Nuvo.
    Young India vs Modern Indian Audience taste has evolved.
    What are the various challenges in front of Automaker whose cars stood the test of time and aged gracefully.
    Because keeping happy the Three to Four Generation of people while designing cars and meeting regulations is not easy.

  • @MohantyShan
    @MohantyShan 5 місяців тому +2

    Hi sir nice Nostalgia about auto industry post Independence but why did you guys missed out on Sipani automobiles Dolphin and Montana - India’s first diesel hatch
    Pls love to hear love to hear thr CKD story during 1982-1984 “ Dolphin” aka Reliant Kitten imports into India while Maruti was gearing up for a launch

  • @dashkanishka
    @dashkanishka 4 місяці тому

    Hormazd explains the details just like writing an automotive love story. Request Autocar India to keep this series going for at least a 100 episodes.

  • @ddr57
    @ddr57 4 місяці тому

    Fantastic walk down memory lane! Personallly, having lived through most of the post Independence Era, this podcast was a panoramic view of the Indian auto industry's evolution!

  • @meetadi4u
    @meetadi4u 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for this podcast . Good to see India’s automotive industry history discussed by Mr. Hormazd who saw the evolution first hand .

  • @chandermotwani3493
    @chandermotwani3493 5 місяців тому +1

    Brilliant Content and Overview on history of Indian automotive industry 💯👌🏼🤘🏻

  • @hooloovoo90
    @hooloovoo90 5 місяців тому

    Wow! Another very interesting podcast! Loved the old pictures of Hormazd Sorabjee and the cars! At 02:28, his great grandfather's car dealership had a telephone number of just #1560! 😂

  • @Manish_Bhasin
    @Manish_Bhasin 5 місяців тому +1

    This episode was very very special & I congratulate autocar for these efforts

  • @sachinhonnal2226
    @sachinhonnal2226 5 місяців тому

    Even Autocar has history with the automotive industry. We want more like these on each indian companies. We want to know more inside stories. Thank you both for this podcast 🙏

  • @sharadpagar6776
    @sharadpagar6776 4 місяці тому

    Really Superb Episode, bunch of Car industries information from start to till date, what a fantastic podcast 😀

  • @maadhuu1
    @maadhuu1 5 місяців тому +1

    Excellent podcast, nostalgic

  • @rishikeshsamant5449
    @rishikeshsamant5449 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video, scorpio got the mention but you forgot sierra and safari in the same breath. It redefined the SUV in India

  • @Blue_Rider23
    @Blue_Rider23 4 місяці тому

    Always interesting to hear from Hormazd. Belated Saal Mubarak

  • @TaufiqueAmmangi
    @TaufiqueAmmangi 5 місяців тому +4

    Imagine Dodge cars in India
    And after market modifications 😅

  • @nitinmodi6675
    @nitinmodi6675 5 місяців тому

    Wow !!!!! what a wonderful video on Indian automobile industry before independence.Superb! facts shared on automobile industry specifically cars.Please do similar way on two wheeler too.But one thing you both will agree that ambassdor back seat comfort and suspension was so good looking to roads we were having in 1950 to 1985.🙏

  • @anuragkhot7841
    @anuragkhot7841 5 місяців тому

    Really you guys are doing God’s work here!! Passing on, so much knowledge to us young car enthusiasts. Really a huge fan of this podcast, please keep the videos coming!😁

  • @melwynphilips856
    @melwynphilips856 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for the nostalgic trip down memory lane. I was so into it that the end of the discussion seemed abrupt.

  • @AjayKumar-ap
    @AjayKumar-ap 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for the nostalgic info on the evolution of our car industry...

  • @svijaymba
    @svijaymba 4 місяці тому

    Sir I keep watch every week u r session

  • @hk4848
    @hk4848 5 місяців тому +3

    Maruti 800
    Maruti 800 with small changes
    118 ne
    Standard 2000
    Contessa
    Dolphin sippani
    Telco estate and Sierra
    Maruti 1000
    Maruti zen
    Maruti esteem
    Hyundai santro
    Daeweoo cielo
    Eclass 124
    Ford ikon
    Tata Indica
    Honda City
    Crdi accent
    Toyota qualis
    Mahindra Scorpio
    Skoda Octavia
    Toyota Innova
    The cars that changed the Indian automobile launguage

  • @vinodgeorge3190
    @vinodgeorge3190 4 місяці тому

    Calling this an 'Interesting' episode was a huge understatement....😊

  • @rajnishmehta4730
    @rajnishmehta4730 5 місяців тому +2

    If we could have something about the Contessa

  • @AayKay47
    @AayKay47 4 місяці тому

    Please also make a podcast on ethanol blending, govts. further plans on it, and its impact on old and new engines, both petrol and diesel.

  • @rahuljain5980
    @rahuljain5980 4 місяці тому

    Sealed distributors and end on changing condensors and CB points from Maruti 1000 onwards.
    Also Aluminium blocks.

  • @sprajesh4224
    @sprajesh4224 4 місяці тому +1

    my 5 fav cars till date:-
    Gen-1 Honda City (vtec)
    Toyota Qualis (Facelift)
    VW Jetta (2016) (TDI)
    Maruti Suzuki Kizashi
    Toyota Innova Crysta (Pre-facelift) (2.8)
    Fiat Punto Abarth
    Maruti Suzuki Baleno RS
    Maruti Suzuki S-Cross (1.6)
    Honda Civic (pre-facelift)
    Honda Accord (V6)
    2nd Gen Maruti Suzuki Swift (1.3 DDiS)
    Ford Fiesta(1.6)
    Ford Ecosport (1.5 TDCi)
    Ford Ecosport (1.0 Ecoboost)
    Ford 2nd Gen Endeavour (3.2)
    Mahindra Scorpio (2010)
    Mahindra ScorpioN (2.2)
    Mahindra XUV700 (2.2)
    Mahindra Thar 2nd Gen (2.0 Diesel)
    and many more, ik I can't name 5 :)) , I am a car enthusiast, I have missed many cars in the list. pre-covid era was the best era was the best era for us.

  • @maddymri
    @maddymri 5 місяців тому +1

    No mention of hyundai Santro ? In post liberalisation era that was THE aspirational car for Indians after Maruti 800.

  • @vipul_singh
    @vipul_singh 4 місяці тому

    Dear Shri Sorabjee, please consider addressing the impact (or not) of car models availability here due India being an RHD market (while most of the world is LHD).

  • @sangv
    @sangv 4 місяці тому

    I personally feel that the Daewoo influx with the Cielo + Matiz, Mitsubishi’s Lancer, and the entry of Škoda with their product line starting with the Octavia perhaps has been the real turning point of the Indian market. To show that India can appreciate global products and quality. Would not agree though that the Indica was a iconic product. It was the most terribly engineered product in that day and age. The product only sold due to its price point and the attractiveness to the Taxi drivers! To own one personally felt like Customer doing the R&D for Tata! Tata post acquisition of JLR took at least 10 years to bring a great product! I would think the single most iconic product from the Tata stable has to be the Sierra!

  • @mayankpandey2001
    @mayankpandey2001 4 місяці тому

    Best auto podcast

  • @deepakprasad4027
    @deepakprasad4027 5 місяців тому

    *Iconic cars*
    #########
    CJ
    Ambassador
    Maruti 800
    Indica
    Scorpio
    Innova

  • @subinsomasunder4891
    @subinsomasunder4891 4 місяці тому

    Next episode should be about the rise of suv culture in india and how long it will last.

  • @stophatred3030
    @stophatred3030 4 місяці тому

    I think a separate of video of what car does autocar journalists drive and why did they choose it and what were other options they thought of

  • @rajoosolanky780
    @rajoosolanky780 5 місяців тому

    Great Podcast. As interesting as it was reading AUTOCAR issues.
    So very nice compilation.
    The miss according to me was Honda City which established them as the best Sedan Car Co. Was able to Built that overall trust of Quality, Cabinspace luxury & Realibility of Engine.
    Man maximum & Machine minimum.
    City Success had reverse effect, Honda became arrogant & did not offer according to competition or customers demand. Would say off Sync with Indians market & aspiration. Till date it's the same. So they got blame themselves for their poor market Share & position they are today.

  • @srs.shashank
    @srs.shashank 4 місяці тому

    Even Honda city is another landmark car similar to Innova but yes Innova is probably the most iconic foreign brand mass market car in India.

  • @anand_nair
    @anand_nair 5 місяців тому +1

    Loving these podcasts.
    Can you please do a podcast on Forgotten Indian cars. Like the Jaya Mayura, Jayaram GT, Aravind 3 , Rajah Kazwa and many more unknown gems.
    These were genuine attempts on indigenisation but failed due to government policies

    • @jereignjayavenhenryjohn6802
      @jereignjayavenhenryjohn6802 5 місяців тому

      Crap.... Those are some rare and unknown cars that.... Only God knows......I guess your born in the 1950s.....how are u still alive?

  • @Soorya-ry6ov
    @Soorya-ry6ov 5 місяців тому

    Let's Go! 😊

  • @sureshkumar-qi6cz
    @sureshkumar-qi6cz 5 місяців тому

    You have missed the Standard Herald from Madras.

  • @rahuljain5980
    @rahuljain5980 4 місяці тому

    Maruti developed the component industry in India.
    Maruti survived because of tax sops below 800 cc engine.
    Maruti had 796 cc and dolphin had 848 cc

  • @prashantshetty2611
    @prashantshetty2611 5 місяців тому

    Really want to know which cars Hormazd drives now and more importantly Why?? Pls. Pls.

  • @govind9402
    @govind9402 4 місяці тому

    Common rail with turbo in ..bs3. .is the best

  • @germany123ification
    @germany123ification 4 місяці тому

    I still wonder why we dont have Global models in India, agreed that due to the tax structure and also sub4meter making cars more affordable to Indian masses, we wouldve loved a few Global models here bu sadly, our roads are a pain to drive on, with traffic conditions and road quality getting worse by the day (I live in Mumbai) and another prime example would be the Mumbai - Ahmedabad highway..what a disgrace! We did however have global models in the past with the amazing VW-Skoda models of the Superb, Passat, Octavia, Polo, Jetta to say the least..not to forget Fiat Punto, I remember seeing the VW Phaeton which launched in 2005-2007?? not sure but it was a large car and all these models mentioned are really successful globally but they deserve Good roads to ply on..buying these and maintaining them in India, with the poor infrastructure and road quality is really a hassle.... Now people might disagree saying new expressways are being built, new roads are being built.. my point is if yes, what about the quality used in building them? Are they gonna be well maintained and smooth throughout scorching summers and monsoons with our trucks plying on it, will it sustain? No it wont.

  • @rahuljain5980
    @rahuljain5980 4 місяці тому +3

    Maruti worked hard to develop vendors and also kept on upgrading their manufacturing practices which other car makers did not do.

  • @yeluripati
    @yeluripati 5 місяців тому +1

    Even apolitical person knew how ✋ govts wasted 44 yrs to build industry after Indian independence. Even though they got gud funding (privy purse) for independence movement from privateers. They simply not interested in private sector participation of nation building.

    • @davidemmyg
      @davidemmyg 4 місяці тому

      The congress government made a lot of mistakes but not opening up India to the so called private player participation is a lie, they did allow private player participation, they didn't let them control the market for their profits or allow more stronger or powerful multinational players to take over what little I Diane industry had. If you read Indian history, you'd understand that the British when they were leaving not only devalued Indian currency but pegged it that way to continue looting India even after they left, and much of the west looked at that as an opportunity to come in and loot India further. Most post colonial countries that allowed private player participation don't have strong homegrown industries whereas India has corporations that are able to compete with other foreign multinationals

  • @vm-my6hg
    @vm-my6hg 5 місяців тому +1

    Without hearing it out, i'm sure the license raj was the absolute worst period, especially as the world kept moving forward. Imagine having to consider cars from 3 decades back as the only two options, and thats if u were one of the lucky few to be able to afford a car. Even getting a scooter required some planning and years. Atrocious times for sure!

    • @saulgoodman124
      @saulgoodman124 5 місяців тому

      Dumb boy thats the reason we have all the brands having manufacturing plants for cars in today's times. Otherwise we would have been pakistan way, only importing cars even now no manufacturing plants in that country.
      Small Brain

  • @sandeshnigam3391
    @sandeshnigam3391 5 місяців тому

    Role of Indian Parents while choosing a Family Car.
    What makes Indians Parents different from other nations while choosing a car.

  • @yugsneni
    @yugsneni 5 місяців тому +2

    Why Germans make car of European standard y can they make for India n Indian users with easy maintenance

  • @paramveersingh8744
    @paramveersingh8744 5 місяців тому +1

    Don’t know if anyone noticed- but Hormazd also has a brilliant collection of watches - maybe one episode that combines motoring and horology

  • @VishnuVck
    @VishnuVck 4 місяці тому

  • @prabhankatesar4728
    @prabhankatesar4728 4 місяці тому

    Car makes that were there but not now
    1) Desoto
    2) Plymouth
    3) Pontiac
    4) Chrysler
    5) Hummer
    6) Lincoln

  • @TaufiqueAmmangi
    @TaufiqueAmmangi 5 місяців тому

  • @mostwanted_007
    @mostwanted_007 5 місяців тому

    It's sad to see that we're again going back into a regressive era 😢. EVs are not there yet and petrol and diesel cars are taxed to high heavens and fuels adulterated with ethanol! Basically becoming draconian again.

  • @pratikdixit3791
    @pratikdixit3791 5 місяців тому +1

    Hormazd is Marlon Brando of Automobile Journalism .

  • @Areebalam1
    @Areebalam1 4 місяці тому

    27:10 "no one wants small car" and yet we have this stupid sub 4 meter rule in our country killing good products.

  • @sunnygarg4978
    @sunnygarg4978 5 місяців тому

    Hi, I am planning to buy Kia Sonet for a long term perspective. I wanted to buy X line diesel version but looking at current vision of government on diesel which is not good, I am confused that should I buy diesel or turbo petrol. As Kia sonet petrol is 1 litre engine with dct gearbox therefore not sure how reliable it will be for time period.

    • @ShubhamChauhan-yn6fy
      @ShubhamChauhan-yn6fy 5 місяців тому

      It also comes with IMT in turbopetrol...for long term usage I believe IMT is better than dct... recently I bought venue nline n6 it has same turbo petrol engine and comes with proper manual transmission

    • @psg5772
      @psg5772 5 місяців тому

      I have Sonet HTX diesel Auto & it is a fun car to drive. Diesel Ban concerns me too but I like to enjoy the moment & enjoy the drive. 10 years is enough for long term.

    • @BENJAMINKNADAR
      @BENJAMINKNADAR 5 місяців тому

      Hyundai Creta diesel CRDi 1.5.. 4 Cylinder Performance quality durability reliability Engine manual

  • @chandrachurniyogi8394
    @chandrachurniyogi8394 5 місяців тому

    we miss the HM Ambassador Nova (HF4) 1.8 I4 4-Dr Executive Sedan (RHD) . . . the Ambassador Mk3 - Mk4 was near impossible to drive on mountain roads, the 1.5 I4 just didn't have enough power to drive up inclines especially with paxs & luggage . . . overheated engine & doggy 4-speed manual transmission especially the steering mounted column shift . . .

  • @krupanandhanvelu4502
    @krupanandhanvelu4502 5 місяців тому

    Omg !!!! Ultimately superb both uncles are enclyopedia of world automobiles your 1 vedio is equal to my 5 years automobiles experience ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @RaghavRamji
    @RaghavRamji 5 місяців тому

    What is the autocar view on bringing back the iconic padmini ambassador and 800 as full electrics.

  • @RoodeMenon
    @RoodeMenon 5 місяців тому

    I thought everything before 1991 was bad. But now...I can't say things are better.

  • @stephenjeyapaul2664
    @stephenjeyapaul2664 5 місяців тому

    When will Honda Bharath planning to release Amaze 3rd generation car? I am waiting to buy a new car during Dec2024/ Jan2025.

  • @DrTJTechie
    @DrTJTechie 5 місяців тому

    This new era of car is like regulations n taxes. Govt just becomes fascinated with Euro emission norms n decides, we should also do so cz need to show the Europeans. Cars becoming very expensive

  • @ramakotaiahk7075
    @ramakotaiahk7075 5 місяців тому

    Understanding the situation after independence, I feel that socialism was a great solution to bring the population to a level, but the corruption has screwed up the whole story of implementation…

  • @adv.shebinkanjirappallil1733
    @adv.shebinkanjirappallil1733 5 місяців тому

    THAR ROXX

    • @autocarindia1
      @autocarindia1  5 місяців тому +1

      Here you go! ua-cam.com/video/HKDRU5oITK0/v-deo.htmlsi=gC-Uzv8B-0BSU7AL

    • @sankuM
      @sankuM 5 місяців тому

      @@autocarindia1