OK I really want to try and dissect this "nan" thing and I am almost certainly wrong, but this is too much fun not to try and puzzle out. I looked at all the words that contain "nan" via the wiki: - Vhenan: "my heart" - Elvhenan: "Elven Civilization" - Enansal: "Blessing" - Renan: "Voice" And a few that we don't know the definitions of, per the wiki, but that appear in text and for which we know some context: "Melava inan enansal" > With "Melava" meaning "time," enansal as above, and the whole phrase meaning "Time was once a blessing." So inan here... possibly a "was/a" type word. So my best guess is that "nan" is something like "being" or "embodiment," or just variations of "to be." As follows: - Vhenan: "Love's embodiment/being" - Elvhenan: "Embodiment of Elves" - Enansal: Well, honestly, "blessing" is already a kind of... noun thing. "Positive Divine Will" perhaps (think "I AM" from old testament stuff for an analog of what I'm getting at) - Renan: "Embodiment of ... Thought(?)/Sound/Word" Side note, "Ren" is most commonly found in "hahren," or "elder," which might be an... evolution? of "speaker" since the Elder speaks for the Alienage. So Elgar'nan could literally be "Embodied Spirit," or "Spirit that IS," if you prefer. Admittedly, this is quite a stretch, and informed by what I know from the games, but it seems to fit in that kind of wish-washy way everything works in Elven.
I would dispute Elvhenan. It is translated as "the place of our people" and the Elvhen is the elves' word for themselves so I would say that the word breaks down to Elvhen an, which is supported by other locations that also have the suffix -an, such as Arlathan or Fort Revasan in the Exalted Plains.
@@AulisVaara It wouldn't be that weird if we someday find out that "Morrigan" as a name originally belonged to a spirit. :) Considering the Avvar relationship with spirits, this would be... especially un-weird as a name to me. There is also that since Morrigan'nan is an Avvar figure, the name might not be related to the Elven "nan" at all.
@@YoshtTheAwesome You are probably right. I agree with your argument that "an" most likely means something along the lines of "land" or "place," but I think the ancient Elves had a slightly different perspective on what a "place" is (at least in their early days). It could be coincidence that the "an" suffix and the "nan" suffix (is it still a suffix if it comes after an apostrophe? Is there a word for that?) are close, but I still think there's something there. If the ancient elves started out as spirits crossing over from the Fade, with the knowledge that the difference back then between "the Fade" and "the physical earth" was... a matter of perspective... it makes me think that the Elvhen concept of a "place" and the Elvhen concept of "embodiment" are... similar, or related - since spirits must become embodied (either how Cole did or by possession) when they... arrive? in the physical world, and when we visit "places" in the Fade, they're not really "places," but focal points of power for the spirits that inhabit those, um... "regions." I think it's possible that the Elvhen civilization started out as "the place/state where Elves became embodied," and then as Elves spread out into the physical world, and especially after the Veil, the concepts of "place" and "being" became a lot more concrete. That said, I knew I was probably reaching with those definitions, especially with that one. But I got lost in trying to "work forwards" from the perspective of a race of recently-embodied spirits.
I thought of it as "to be" as well when I heard the examples in the video, and would argue that these are things which come out of nothing. Elvhenan may have simply come into existence, a voice simply comes out of your mouth when you wish, Elgar'nan came into existence, the first spirit.
EUREKA: the Evanuris killed Mythal by finding her Soul Anchor Dragon hidden in the Fade, but her soul was so old and powerful that she was able to anchor herself to the mortal world by fusing with the souls of living hosts. “A soul is not forced on the unwilling, Morrigan. You were never in any danger from me.” (Flemeth) No dragon: no physical reincarnation.
Corypheus's immortality wasn't *dependent* on his dragon, since he died and came back several times before he got the dragon. I think the idea is that he invested part of his being into it, which allowed him to control it. Morrigan says when you kill the dragon, it will temporarily disrupt Corypheus's ability to possess other bodies.
Hypothesis: Solas isn’t just called “The Dread Wolf” because that’s just what they call him. I believe that Solas’ effective immortality comes from an actual Wolf that Solas bound his soul to as an anchor causing the Wolf to be the vessel of Solas’s soul. I also hypothesize that Solas and the Evanuris keep theirs Soul Anchors in the Fade where the magical energies of the Fade can keep their dragon (Mythal), Wolf (Solas), etc. alive and young. That way because their Soul Anchor hidden in the Fade could never die or be killed thus giving Solas and the Evanuris eternal youth and effective immortality.
Where does the “Hidden in the Fade” idea come from? Look what happened to Corypheus. He used his dragon in open combat and when his dragon was destroyed he lost his immortality.
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I love the idea of the gods being powerful spirits and taking forms of animals like owls, dragons, weird deer. It is a theme that draws on very old mythologies. Thanks Caitie for another great video!
Sarah Marie J Except they were definitely elves. Now the question if Elves were all originally spirits who became physical is a different question. Although The fade is generally thought to be the source of all life anyways (being magic and thought)
Reflection: Ghil Dirthalen said in the video that one could maintain continuous youth by feeding on the magical energies of the Fade. But, one could still die. This makes sense why the DA Elves possess a psychopomp deity that guides Elves to their eternal rest, because elves though non aging could still die involuntarily. Then we come to “the secret of effective immortality” (Solas): this provokes the theory that the elven gods used dragons as soul anchors to gain effective immortality and thus the Evanuris were the only Elves with immortality and so were revered as deities. And so, when Solas erected the Veil Elves were cut off from the Fade energy that was keeping them eternally young and as such grew old and died.
I think the translation that sounds best to me of the ones you listed be “First Spirit” which would make Elvhenan mean “First people” leaning on the idea that elves were spirits who became corporeal, so they literally consider themselves the first civilization.
Elgarnan sounds like a badass. A really angry dick. But still a badass. Who defeats a fucking titan in single combat, then orders the corpse carved into a statue of himself!?! Fucking savage
First in this context means leader. Like Captain America being "the first Avenger": eventhough there was no 'Avengers' when he went into the ice and the avengers already existed when he came out.
Exactly! I was hoping someone had made this point already. Or it could even mean 'best of'. First among men, first part of my joy, first in my heart, etc, etc
I see similarities in the icon of Vengeance skill of Anders from DA 2 to any of the elven people's face structure in the DA wiki, maybe that's the connection you're looking for when you doubt whether they called themselves "The People of Vengeance" ? The weird thing is that Vengeance skill has horns with elven face(or so I think), maybe this is aiming somewhere to how the Qunari were created, in the image of Elgar'nan, or if you'd like, Genesis 1:27 "So god created man in his own image", in the image of God - Elgar'nan. Other than the pictures, having heard that Elgar'nan had the story with the sun and the situation "Got the better of him" until Mythal came, kinda reminded me of Anders and Justice, Elgar'nan could not quiet things down inside of him, so he was motivated for anger - Vengeance, once Mythal came in she managed to calm him down and eventually became some kind of a judge of the elven people of their time, and a judge represents Justice, like the spirit of Justice in Anders. I can't say I am sure of any of that, I was never one of the bigger minds in theories xd
Theory: the only way to kill an Old God or the dragons that lead the blights is for a Gray Warden to deal the killing blow destroying both Warden and dragon. What does this indicate: the Blight is both biological and spiritual. Lirium is alive and can be blighted. The Blight can only infect living things. I believe the blight is tiny motes of a Titan and that the Old Gods May be the Evanuris or similar beings that can take the forms of dragons. Also, the reason the dragon comes back is because it’s anchored to a being not the other way around. However, a Gray Warden possesses a dormant piece of this Titan or Entity’s soul in the form of the Blight. Thus, the Gray Warden can kill the Archdemon permanently because they share the same soul in common. The reason I hypothesize the source of the Blight to be a Titan is because Wardens and sentient beings that turn into Dark Spawn claim to hear music and Titans sing and Lirium makes its own music.
It looks to me like "nan/an" is probably a suffix that works much like "-ness," or "-dom," that refers to the substance associated with or instantiating a quality. So if "ren" meant to speak, "renan" would be "speechness," or voice. Elvhenan would mean Elvendom (like Christendom), or Elvenkind. Elgar'nan could thus mean Spiritedness, or Spirit-ness, meaning either that they see him as the oldest spirit and the source of all spirits, or his name could mean "spirited" in the sense of prideful and angry.
It could also be possible that the "nan/an" suffix exist separately from the noun "nan" as it attached to Elgar with a " ' " , and we don't really have any other examples like that
Thought two: so, it seems that DA possesses the lore of Soul Anchors. In Harry Potter the concept is illustrated by Hoarcruxes. In D&D they are called Phylacteries. Soul Anchors are a person, a place, or a thing that literally anchors the soul to the living world. These anchors allow a soul to reincarnate into a another physical manifestation in which their soul was born. In the Silmarillion, if an Elf were to die and their soul entered the Halls of Mandos the Elf could choose to leave the Halls and exit into the Land of Valinor. Upon exiting the Halls of Mandos the Elf’s soul would be clothed in flesh once more, for the Eldar are truly immortal children of Erû Illûvatar.
Or combining a spirit of vengeance, elf body, and dragon's blood.. pre blight, and my guess void touching.. Anders has a pretty bad temper, because of his spirit of vengeance/justice. Abomination could also be immortal, and dragon's blood may be the key to fully mixing and or subjugating the extra spirit.
Recollection: in the Dragon 🐉 Heart ❤️ Movies 🎥 dragons could share their hearts with humans causing vitabio-sympathy between dragon and man. But, in the Dragon’s heart beat the life source, so the only way to kill the human with a dragon’s heart was to kill the dragon. Otherwise, the human would not stay dead.
The Elven Gods definitely shadowed themselves as the original “old gods”, sinned, were caged down as said old gods, then blood magicked themselves into a ritual turning the city black the moment the Magisters passed through into the once Golden City.
perfect as always thnx the way i see it there something to your theory but what if he have something like spartan rage from god of war and he lose him self or maybe a curse or a spell by the titans forgotten ones who knows as for Corypheus being able to come back from the death i don't think he can he just uses what all elven gods use essence transfer into another or a locket or place when we first kill him i don't think we actually did he may jumped into larius wich than gives knowledge of red lirium to bianca and at that point he is a mage instead the warrior
Great video! But I just have one thing the reference to Elgar'nan being a dragon or something of the sorts. Wasn’t it confirmed by Solace that the Elven Gods were just insanely powerful Mages? This would make the most sense imo. As they’d be able to bind others as slaves and create their own origins of their power or the Elves would do it. And over time the Myths become “reality” with only the “Gods” knowing the truth of things. It kinda ties into June being the Craftsman and not really knowing exactly what the Craft was, it could have been the more important tools the Elves used but also his “masterpiece” if you will could have been a spell that was placed on the people in order to make them slaves to bend them to the will of the “Gods”
You said that his name probably means something about vengeance. Is there any chance that he may be the same vengeance (or I suppose Justice) that we see in Anders? It's a bit of a stretch, but it's not unheard of for an evanuris to possess the body of a human (in the case of Flemeth).
I have a suggestion, How about a video for each one of the magisters of the tevinter Imperium, I mean you made videos about "coryphee" lol, And the magister sydell or how ever the fuck you say that name, But it would be interesting to know, I still play dragon age this day so I totally support all of your videos that just keep coming out, they keeping company at work and I have very long shifts so thanks for your hard work!
Sounds like the name of the next DA tie in movie.. move over Dawn of the Seeker.... It's "People of Vengeance: Revenge of the People!" Part two would be "The RE-re-punchening."
Well... Just remind me NOT to piss off Elgar'nan or Mythal! Either one pissed at me would be hazardous to my health bar! :-D I am curious about the cracks crying up the oceans. Does anyone know anything more about it?
My theory: Sun isn't Elgar'nans father but his father in law. Sun is Mythals father and Elgar'nan was not born as person from the sun but he wanted to be like the sun. His Character was born from the sun. The gifts come from the earth, but they were for mythal. Sun destroyed the gifts because he thing elgar'nan isn't good enough for mythal. So i thing Elar'nan wasn't a god, but mythal was. Sun is a Dragon or a person who could take a Dragonform. So Mythals children can do the same, take a animalform? now my explanation: Flemeth take the form of a dragon, i thing it is mythals power why she can do this. the archdemons are dragon and the old gods (Tevinter). They coming from the deep routs in the ground. Solas said he locked the forgotten ones(elven) in the abyss (void). What only can be deep in the ground. When i put one and one together.... Old gods = forgotten ones and mythal is one of them. It is like greek mythology. One replace the other.
Coming from the future, it's amazing how some of these theories aged really well. Connection between elven gods and dragons, the gods taking form using the titans, the Blight originating from the Titans... Damn.
Coming back to these now and i do find it funny that the last two gods you did before you got to 'the interesting ones' were Elgar'nan and Ghilanan 😂
This video is 4 years old. Either Caitie called it from a mile away, or she knew almost half a decade ago lol
Mythal just gave Elgar'nan Snickers. Eglar'nan, you get kinda fiery when you're hungry. Eat a Snickers.
Always thought Tranquility myself but that works too.
OK I really want to try and dissect this "nan" thing and I am almost certainly wrong, but this is too much fun not to try and puzzle out. I looked at all the words that contain "nan" via the wiki:
- Vhenan: "my heart"
- Elvhenan: "Elven Civilization"
- Enansal: "Blessing"
- Renan: "Voice"
And a few that we don't know the definitions of, per the wiki, but that appear in text and for which we know some context:
"Melava inan enansal" > With "Melava" meaning "time," enansal as above, and the whole phrase meaning "Time was once a blessing." So inan here... possibly a "was/a" type word.
So my best guess is that "nan" is something like "being" or "embodiment," or just variations of "to be." As follows:
- Vhenan: "Love's embodiment/being"
- Elvhenan: "Embodiment of Elves"
- Enansal: Well, honestly, "blessing" is already a kind of... noun thing. "Positive Divine Will" perhaps (think "I AM" from old testament stuff for an analog of what I'm getting at)
- Renan: "Embodiment of ... Thought(?)/Sound/Word" Side note, "Ren" is most commonly found in "hahren," or "elder," which might be an... evolution? of "speaker" since the Elder speaks for the Alienage.
So Elgar'nan could literally be "Embodied Spirit," or "Spirit that IS," if you prefer. Admittedly, this is quite a stretch, and informed by what I know from the games, but it seems to fit in that kind of wish-washy way everything works in Elven.
I would dispute Elvhenan. It is translated as "the place of our people" and the Elvhen is the elves' word for themselves so I would say that the word breaks down to Elvhen an, which is supported by other locations that also have the suffix -an, such as Arlathan or Fort Revasan in the Exalted Plains.
@@AulisVaara It wouldn't be that weird if we someday find out that "Morrigan" as a name originally belonged to a spirit. :) Considering the Avvar relationship with spirits, this would be... especially un-weird as a name to me.
There is also that since Morrigan'nan is an Avvar figure, the name might not be related to the Elven "nan" at all.
@@YoshtTheAwesome You are probably right. I agree with your argument that "an" most likely means something along the lines of "land" or "place," but I think the ancient Elves had a slightly different perspective on what a "place" is (at least in their early days). It could be coincidence that the "an" suffix and the "nan" suffix (is it still a suffix if it comes after an apostrophe? Is there a word for that?) are close, but I still think there's something there. If the ancient elves started out as spirits crossing over from the Fade, with the knowledge that the difference back then between "the Fade" and "the physical earth" was... a matter of perspective... it makes me think that the Elvhen concept of a "place" and the Elvhen concept of "embodiment" are... similar, or related - since spirits must become embodied (either how Cole did or by possession) when they... arrive? in the physical world, and when we visit "places" in the Fade, they're not really "places," but focal points of power for the spirits that inhabit those, um... "regions." I think it's possible that the Elvhen civilization started out as "the place/state where Elves became embodied," and then as Elves spread out into the physical world, and especially after the Veil, the concepts of "place" and "being" became a lot more concrete.
That said, I knew I was probably reaching with those definitions, especially with that one. But I got lost in trying to "work forwards" from the perspective of a race of recently-embodied spirits.
I thought of it as "to be" as well when I heard the examples in the video, and would argue that these are things which come out of nothing. Elvhenan may have simply come into existence, a voice simply comes out of your mouth when you wish, Elgar'nan came into existence, the first spirit.
EUREKA: the Evanuris killed Mythal by finding her Soul Anchor Dragon hidden in the Fade, but her soul was so old and powerful that she was able to anchor herself to the mortal world by fusing with the souls of living hosts. “A soul is not forced on the unwilling, Morrigan. You were never in any danger from me.” (Flemeth) No dragon: no physical reincarnation.
Corypheus's immortality wasn't *dependent* on his dragon, since he died and came back several times before he got the dragon.
I think the idea is that he invested part of his being into it, which allowed him to control it. Morrigan says when you kill the dragon, it will temporarily disrupt Corypheus's ability to possess other bodies.
Literally what i was going to comment, nice one Cole.
Kinda like Sovereign and Saren...
I hope this channel blows up when DA:4 comes out
Hypothesis: Solas isn’t just called “The Dread Wolf” because that’s just what they call him. I believe that Solas’ effective immortality comes from an actual Wolf that Solas bound his soul to as an anchor causing the Wolf to be the vessel of Solas’s soul. I also hypothesize that Solas and the Evanuris keep theirs Soul Anchors in the Fade where the magical energies of the Fade can keep their dragon (Mythal), Wolf (Solas), etc. alive and young. That way because their Soul Anchor hidden in the Fade could never die or be killed thus giving Solas and the Evanuris eternal youth and effective immortality.
Where does the “Hidden in the Fade” idea come from? Look what happened to Corypheus. He used his dragon in open combat and when his dragon was destroyed he lost his immortality.
I just finished watching a couple of your playthrough vids over at codex added❤️✨it kept me company while I was drawing and I just really enjoy them! I'm just happy you guys are keeping the DA community alive ❤️❤️❤️
I love the idea of the gods being powerful spirits and taking forms of animals like owls, dragons, weird deer. It is a theme that draws on very old mythologies.
Thanks Caitie for another great video!
Sarah Marie J
Except they were definitely elves.
Now the question if Elves were all originally spirits who became physical is a different question.
Although The fade is generally thought to be the source of all life anyways (being magic and thought)
Reflection: Ghil Dirthalen said in the video that one could maintain continuous youth by feeding on the magical energies of the Fade. But, one could still die. This makes sense why the DA Elves possess a psychopomp deity that guides Elves to their eternal rest, because elves though non aging could still die involuntarily. Then we come to “the secret of effective immortality” (Solas): this provokes the theory that the elven gods used dragons as soul anchors to gain effective immortality and thus the Evanuris were the only Elves with immortality and so were revered as deities. And so, when Solas erected the Veil Elves were cut off from the Fade energy that was keeping them eternally young and as such grew old and died.
I think the translation that sounds best to me of the ones you listed be “First Spirit” which would make Elvhenan mean “First people” leaning on the idea that elves were spirits who became corporeal, so they literally consider themselves the first civilization.
Elgarnan sounds like a badass.
A really angry dick.
But still a badass. Who defeats a fucking titan in single combat, then orders the corpse carved into a statue of himself!?! Fucking savage
Wait, I thought all gods were able to turn into dragons? I thought that was "the form" someone got in trouble for taking
First in this context means leader.
Like Captain America being "the first Avenger": eventhough there was no 'Avengers' when he went into the ice and the avengers already existed when he came out.
Exactly! I was hoping someone had made this point already. Or it could even mean 'best of'. First among men, first part of my joy, first in my heart, etc, etc
@@MsHipple It could mean both. "first among equals" is another way to describe the leader or the person with the most status.
I see similarities in the icon of Vengeance skill of Anders from DA 2 to any of the elven people's face structure in the DA wiki, maybe that's the connection you're looking for when you doubt whether they called themselves "The People of Vengeance" ? The weird thing is that Vengeance skill has horns with elven face(or so I think), maybe this is aiming somewhere to how the Qunari were created, in the image of Elgar'nan, or if you'd like, Genesis 1:27 "So god created man in his own image", in the image of God - Elgar'nan.
Other than the pictures, having heard that Elgar'nan had the story with the sun and the situation "Got the better of him" until Mythal came, kinda reminded me of Anders and Justice, Elgar'nan could not quiet things down inside of him, so he was motivated for anger - Vengeance, once Mythal came in she managed to calm him down and eventually became some kind of a judge of the elven people of their time, and a judge represents Justice, like the spirit of Justice in Anders.
I can't say I am sure of any of that, I was never one of the bigger minds in theories xd
That would be kinda funny if the Dalish legends made a couple out of the DA equivalent of How to Train Your Dragon.
I don't even know, I still mix their names up :')
Theory: the only way to kill an Old God or the dragons that lead the blights is for a Gray Warden to deal the killing blow destroying both Warden and dragon. What does this indicate: the Blight is both biological and spiritual. Lirium is alive and can be blighted. The Blight can only infect living things. I believe the blight is tiny motes of a Titan and that the Old Gods May be the Evanuris or similar beings that can take the forms of dragons. Also, the reason the dragon comes back is because it’s anchored to a being not the other way around. However, a Gray Warden possesses a dormant piece of this Titan or Entity’s soul in the form of the Blight. Thus, the Gray Warden can kill the Archdemon permanently because they share the same soul in common. The reason I hypothesize the source of the Blight to be a Titan is because Wardens and sentient beings that turn into Dark Spawn claim to hear music and Titans sing and Lirium makes its own music.
You were right!
It looks to me like "nan/an" is probably a suffix that works much like "-ness," or "-dom," that refers to the substance associated with or instantiating a quality. So if "ren" meant to speak, "renan" would be "speechness," or voice. Elvhenan would mean Elvendom (like Christendom), or Elvenkind. Elgar'nan could thus mean Spiritedness, or Spirit-ness, meaning either that they see him as the oldest spirit and the source of all spirits, or his name could mean "spirited" in the sense of prideful and angry.
It could also be possible that the "nan/an" suffix exist separately from the noun "nan" as it attached to Elgar with a " ' " , and we don't really have any other examples like that
I mean you may say it's a crazy theory but as far as I'm aware it's actually a sound theory
Thought two: so, it seems that DA possesses the lore of Soul Anchors. In Harry Potter the concept is illustrated by Hoarcruxes. In D&D they are called Phylacteries. Soul Anchors are a person, a place, or a thing that literally anchors the soul to the living world. These anchors allow a soul to reincarnate into a another physical manifestation in which their soul was born. In the Silmarillion, if an Elf were to die and their soul entered the Halls of Mandos the Elf could choose to leave the Halls and exit into the Land of Valinor. Upon exiting the Halls of Mandos the Elf’s soul would be clothed in flesh once more, for the Eldar are truly immortal children of Erû Illûvatar.
Spirit of vengeance? He's a ghost rider?
I can't wait to see what he actually looks and sounds like!
Or combining a spirit of vengeance, elf body, and dragon's blood.. pre blight, and my guess void touching.. Anders has a pretty bad temper, because of his spirit of vengeance/justice. Abomination could also be immortal, and dragon's blood may be the key to fully mixing and or subjugating the extra spirit.
You know, I never thought about the dragon theory before, but I don't think it's stupid. It's kind of a cool idea. :)
Huh. Pride, Mythal, Brow. I wonder if Solas was involved.
Not being able to die from aging IS immortality? Invincibility would be the ability to not die.
I think that elgar'nan is the Maker and he speaks with Andraste
Jesus you were pretty much spit on
Recollection: in the Dragon 🐉 Heart ❤️ Movies 🎥 dragons could share their hearts with humans causing vitabio-sympathy between dragon and man. But, in the Dragon’s heart beat the life source, so the only way to kill the human with a dragon’s heart was to kill the dragon. Otherwise, the human would not stay dead.
Thought 💭 one ☝🏼: so, there’s a definite possibility there are male dragons.
The Elven Gods definitely shadowed themselves as the original “old gods”, sinned, were caged down as said old gods, then blood magicked themselves into a ritual turning the city black the moment the Magisters passed through into the once Golden City.
Elgar'nan king of the gods
perfect as always thnx
the way i see it there something to your theory but what if he have something like spartan rage from god of war and he lose him self or maybe a curse or a spell by the titans forgotten ones who knows as for Corypheus being able to come back from the death i don't think he can he just uses what all elven gods use essence transfer into another or a locket or place when we first kill him i don't think we actually did he may jumped into larius wich than gives knowledge of red lirium to bianca and at that point he is a mage instead the warrior
Great video! But I just have one thing the reference to Elgar'nan being a dragon or something of the sorts. Wasn’t it confirmed by Solace that the Elven Gods were just insanely powerful Mages? This would make the most sense imo. As they’d be able to bind others as slaves and create their own origins of their power or the Elves would do it. And over time the Myths become “reality” with only the “Gods” knowing the truth of things. It kinda ties into June being the Craftsman and not really knowing exactly what the Craft was, it could have been the more important tools the Elves used but also his “masterpiece” if you will could have been a spell that was placed on the people in order to make them slaves to bend them to the will of the “Gods”
After veilguard I'm wondering about him and the maker.
OK, just poped it to my mind...
If -an means place (like in Solasan - place of pride) then maybe 'nan or even -nan would mean person?
Great video, I love to see lore and story theories, even more about Dragon Age. Great voice and good work, keep it up 😀
You said that his name probably means something about vengeance. Is there any chance that he may be the same vengeance (or I suppose Justice) that we see in Anders? It's a bit of a stretch, but it's not unheard of for an evanuris to possess the body of a human (in the case of Flemeth).
WOW, HUH. That theory is really something to think about.
I have a suggestion, How about a video for each one of the magisters of the tevinter Imperium, I mean you made videos about "coryphee" lol, And the magister sydell or how ever the fuck you say that name, But it would be interesting to know, I still play dragon age this day so I totally support all of your videos that just keep coming out, they keeping company at work and I have very long shifts so thanks for your hard work!
Sounds like the name of the next DA tie in movie.. move over Dawn of the Seeker.... It's "People of Vengeance: Revenge of the People!" Part two would be "The RE-re-punchening."
Well... Just remind me NOT to piss off Elgar'nan or Mythal! Either one pissed at me would be hazardous to my health bar! :-D
I am curious about the cracks crying up the oceans. Does anyone know anything more about it?
My theory: Sun isn't Elgar'nans father but his father in law. Sun is Mythals father and Elgar'nan was not born as person from the sun but he wanted to be like the sun. His Character was born from the sun. The gifts come from the earth, but they were for mythal. Sun destroyed the gifts because he thing elgar'nan isn't good enough for mythal.
So i thing Elar'nan wasn't a god, but mythal was. Sun is a Dragon or a person who could take a Dragonform. So Mythals children can do the same, take a animalform?
now my explanation:
Flemeth take the form of a dragon, i thing it is mythals power why she can do this. the archdemons are dragon and the old gods (Tevinter). They coming from the deep routs in the ground. Solas said he locked the forgotten ones(elven) in the abyss (void). What only can be deep in the ground.
When i put one and one together....
Old gods = forgotten ones and mythal is one of them. It is like greek mythology. One replace the other.
If Elgarnan is a dragon I think that adds more credence to the elven gods and the old gods being one and the same.
Purhaps Dumat.
Excellent video. I enjoy them all.
Can't believe elgar'nan was the elvish god of simps
Woooo girl I love these lore vids!
Only Bioware can make mythology that is just as randomly ridiculous as actual mythology. Also, great video Ghil Dirthalen
I gotta feeling this dude is gonna be an issue in the future.
Maybe I should just shut up 🤐 now...
Coming from the future, it's amazing how some of these theories aged really well. Connection between elven gods and dragons, the gods taking form using the titans, the Blight originating from the Titans... Damn.