Picked my e-Niro up on the 18th April and I just love it. I am getting just a tad short of 300 miles from a full charge (mixture of roads from motorways to narrow single track country roads). Once Octopus installs my smart meter and I can take advantage of the GO tariff would mean that I can easily do South Devon to London for just £2 :-)
Carol Steele - Only has short test drives so far. 30mi yesterday and about 20mi today. Drove some of my most travelled paths. Reckon I’d be looking at a mean average of 3.5 to 3.9mi/kWh. Less when loaded up or full of people.
Love ours! We had used 25% charge since collection which was at 100%. 75 miles used on the trip since that last charge. So with that sort of driving that's a 300 mile range. I charged it up in town last night back to full and the gom was showing 289. Absolutely loving the car. Plenty of space on board. Plenty of power for our needs. Comfortable. What's not to like?! 😊
Great review! I live in Sweden and have now driven my e-Niro for 7700 km. Best car i’ve ever owned. Good build quality and fun to drive. Full spec model including led-headlights, deadspot warning, heated/ventilated seats, sunroof etc. here in Sweden.
I work for Kia and this car is well worth the wait..we've taken orders and if you change your mind after leaving a 'Reservation' deposit and change your mind when it arrives in 12 months or so?? many buyers will be waiting in the wings to snap it up!! Fantastic piece of kit :)
A really well balanced and detailed review of the e-Niro. Having owned one since Mid-March we are really getting to like the car - Mrs. e-Niro uses it more than I do!..The steering isn’t the most communicative but I think this is a function of electric assist. The Top Gear/Grand Tour crowd love to bang on about this kind of thing but for the average driver like me I am perfectly happy that it steers accurately and easily. Our old Prius (now for sale) has electric assist and is similarly ’Nigel-Like’ - nice but not exciting. What will be interesting is when the RWD cars from VW and others start to appear. The opportunity there will be to make the car more ‘sporty' and appeal to the aforementioned petrol-head reviewers...but can the steering feel of a hydraulically assisted system be replicated in an electric system? A challenge for those brands who trade on those qualities. We are just about to set off for a 600 km round trip to Orleans for the weekend, destination charging at the hotel awaits. Thanks again Ryan.
Great honest review, thanks. Totally understand the Nige/Nigel descriptions. The Kia push button cup holders never fail to impress! Long live the spinny holders
Rolling on neutral without regen brings you the best mileage because no extra energy transformation is needed to propel a car. When breaking, regen is applied automatically to capture kinetic energy which otherwise be lost as heat. Chasing best mileage you should avoid regen
I think this is my favorite EV. The low key design inside and out (Hopefully they don't all have the bright colour at the front). Non-sporty (comfy) handling. Good range. Not ridiculously expensive. Good size for me. Then the usual EV kicker sets in - Can't tow.
Same here. Please can we have an EV that can tow. We have a Leaf, but swopped our second car from an Auris Hybrid to an Avensis because we need a tow car. I'd much rather have one EV for all our needs, but the lack of towing ability rules it out. The Tesla Model X is too expensive, and too big for us. Owning an EV, even the 1st gen Leaf, just makes ICE cars feel old hat and I'm very aware of the pollutants pouring out of the exhaust.
Go to your dealer and put the money in his hands paying it off in full. Then spec the car completely and prepay the shipping charges. Now that the dealer is convinced that you are buying the car, perhaps he will work with his company to make it possible.
You also will be patient for 8 months THEN YOUR DEALER WILL FILLING IN THE GAP WITH The necessary info and you won't be upset because Kia has a great quality build.Interior is completely comfortable.
Looking forward to the head-to-head next week. Drive an eNiro yesterday for a couple of hours yesterday and another 45mins. today. Nigel yep, that makes sense. Not an exciting ride but that’s not what I need. It’s got its fair share of hard plastics inside. But you don’t spend your time tapping the trim as your driving. Tends to roll/sway a bit on country roads; but the car was empty. So may be more steady loaded..? Seats are ok and will probably give a bit when worn-in. The steering wheel’s stitching is a bit rough on the thumbs. The drive selector has a nobbled edge, which makes it easy to grip & turn. I don’t know what setting is was in yesterday but it was more fun and the steering more responsive. Today it was in ‘ECO’ and I didn’t know how to change it. I stopped and fiddled but it stayed in ECO. Which still had plenty of oomph when needed but it felt a bit numb and the steering overly soft. Like wading through treacle on a hot day. Easy to reverse, (first car I’ve driven with a reversing camera). So that’s a novelty which didn’t get used. Yes it was on but I just used the mirrors as usual. The sensors seemed overly sensitive. I backed into a garage and beeping was like 4am on Christmas morning, when your nephew has found the toy trumpet. I get out to check and there’s an 18”/45cm clearance, (measured it). Control surfaces and buttons were a bit on the Hot Black Desiarto side. You press a black button and a lack light lights up black to let you know you’ve done it. It was a right day, so even with the lights on, the switches and buttons sort of melded into one. But i dare say get used to it. The front windows are are auto up & down. But you have to keep a finger on the switch to fully open or close the rear windows. On the plus side, the motors are smooth and almost silent. Same goes for the wipers. The spread of the front windscreen washers is good. Only needed the brakes a few times, due to regen on 2-3. And once in an emergency. Brand new car with brand new brakes. It was an immediate cessation of forward progression. Seat belts worked too. A driver assuming there wouldn’t be another road user, me, on the other side of the blind bend. The supplied Type 2 cable seems a bit short. Sorry, I didn’t measure it. On the other hand. You could plug the granny lead in in York and it would stretch to Dublin. Why oh why, does a modern car, (the eNiro) not have blind-spot monitoring. And come on Kia, spec. the UK vehicles with LEDs all round. The Kona is a 150 quid cheaper and has both. Plus rear cross traffic alert.
DC Various Vids that’s a good sum up. For info the button to change drive modes in on the centre console below the drive selector. All in all I though it was a good solid car 😁👍
Hi to you good review as usual accept to say having driven a new leaf I find it less dull and more modern not to mention it has better battery management and for me drives and feels a better quality product. As a result I have ordered one. I found the Kona a bit to small in the back and boot for me. Enjoy the videos keep it up.
I'd mention in your upcoming comparison with the Kona that the eNiro is 20cm longer so better rear passenger legroom and more cargo space in rear. If you open the bonnet/hood from memory the components are Hyundai badged on both. Is infotainment system same or slight differences between Kona & eNiro? I was waiting on eNiro but I jumped on EV train with Ioniq which I'm loving totally only about two weeks in so far. Good review though, was hoping you may do an eNiro after Kona review previously.
Very polished video. Great review. It's certainly my choice over the Kona, much more practical and the boot space on the eNiro is much more family friendly than the Kona.
Great, can't wait to see you do a comparison side-by-side with Kona Electric, compare specs and measurements (especially back seat leg room).. but would it possible to do a range test side-by-side (eg, two drivers driving together at same time), and maybe fully charge to 100% on both, and drive until each car gets down to 75% battery and see which car went further to extrapolate the full range?
Good review, thanks Ryan, I went to my local Kia garage for some figures (my Leaf contract ends May 2020)... Deposit :£3000 Gov Grant: £3400 (round about that figure?) Monthly Payment: £557.03 Mileage: 8000 mls p/y So it’s a no go for me, can’t justify those monthly payments. May go to my Hyundai and see about the Kona, so will be interesting to see your next video comparing them 👍 Or will see what the 64kwh Leaf turns out like, and see what Nissan can offer 😉
The regen brake is also linked into sat nav and reacts accordingly becoming stronger as you approach junctions, secondly hold regen paddle fully and will regen even more powerfully than step 3, like Tesla regen power
I could drive this and charge 2 times a week instead of the every day, sometimes twice a day in my Leaf. I wish they were available here... and that I could afford one.
I don't get why the place for the charging cables is always under the boot. If you have anything in there it's a pain to get to them. Surely there's somewhere more logical to put a holder.
I reckon for day to day travel, in the boot/truck in fine. But when travelling or loaded up, I'd just sling the cables on top of the cargo being carried. Or there's the niffy poly box under the bonnet/hood adaption.
One positive thing about the Tesla is that it was designed from the ground up without a large front engine - and so has some storage up front. A shame other car companies haven’t incorporated that element yet. Perhaps second generation designs...
I like the regen hooked up to my brake pedal like on my Fiat. It feels more natural and it tells you the amount going back into the battery. The harder you brake the more energy goes back into the battery.
Small details I didn't think about when I bought my Toyota Auris hybrid. First, Traffic Announcements. My previous cars had a button marked TA to turn the feature on, off or cancel current announcement. The Toyota requires a button to get into setup mode followed by four touch screen buttons to turn the feature on, same procedure to turn it off. Second, electric folding mirrors (great if you've got them). On narrow lanes a simple push of a button folds them in reducing the car width a bit when there is an oncoming car. This is really a Tesla Model 3 issue. Third, not a current problem, it's the disappearing hand brake. When I learnt to drive I was taught to apply the handbrake at red lights and other occasions when stopping for a few seconds. I asked a BSM instructor about this recently and he still teaches it. So, how do you do it with the new electric parking brakes?
The transmission Park is in the centre of the transmission knob and there is an electronic parking brake button on the centre console. I was wondering is the console different between right and left drive models? In Canada we get heated and cooled seats for driver and passenger, heated seats in the back. The heat pump is standard for cold climates but they have a base model without it in order to qualify the Niro EV model for a federal EV grant. I was told Canada get 400 cars in total for this year.
Who's Nigel 😀 great car 32k tho but still great. 250 range hassle free. Still personally can't be added charging my 22kw for journeys more than 15 minutes so fits for me 💪
I drove it on some backroads in Sport mode and I found it quite exciting considering it is a heavy crossover vehicle. The steering got heavier and more agile. The throttle response also increased. I found the car pretty noisy though, with studded winter tires, but like you say, It's a Kia.
Great review. Shame the wait list is so long I’ll never even consider it. By the time you get it much better vehicles will be available. Tesla Model 3 still tops my wish list.
Great review Ryan and yes it's a Nigel. Just a shame that you'll have to wait an age to get your hands on one and pay £30k for it. We're looking for something Nigelesque but smaller and definitely cheaper. Perhaps a Colin or a Brian. I suggested to my wife that what she needs is a Sheetal but said said it needs to be reliable!
Regarding the headlights doesn't the e-Niro comes with HID's or Xenons.? To be honest i don't like LED headlights, I had them on a hired Kia Sportage, I found they cannot give the range the Xenons on my present car give me and the worse thing is when on main beam the big white street signs reflect back at you so bright they blind you, it's almost like a car coming towards you with main beams.
Greetings from the US (Michigan). Great video review! I wish I could get my hands on one of these to replace my leased 2016 LEAF. However, it seems they are getting first release in the zero-emission states. I understand there's no app connectivity for remote climate control start and checking state of charge whilst having a coffee. Was this your finding as well?
Karl Bloss that is the only problem with these tests. I cannot use the app as it would mean registering to a brand new car before the customer so I can’t say for sure but I understand you are correct.
The Canadian models include a 5 year cell subscription to access the car remotely from the KIA App. Here's a walkaround of the Canadian model ua-cam.com/video/98WxVkF5irs/v-deo.html . Kia Canada hasn't published the specs for the model which is concerning. Not too worried about selling them,
It's only a small point but it looks like the colour matching on the charge flap is a bit off. Otherwise the only problem with it is there aren't enough available.
I would be intrested to know if you can start the Cabin heat/cool from the key fob? I hope there is no need to be pluged in any more when setting climate timer as the battery is so big. thanks for the review the Wife seem keen now.
I finally did a 30-minute drive in my Kia Niro EV 2019 and noticed the driver seat is narrow (seems like it's a little tight and hugging me)... I didnt notice this in my old Nissan LEAF 2017, which I assume now has a wider seat.. anyone else noticed this? Or maybe I'll just get used to it?
Great review. I don't believe the car is bland but there trying to make an EV that looks / behaves like a normal car. It's strange that the UK spec doesn't have the LED headlights when other countries do.. It's also the same with the memory seat function which aims countries don't have. Interested to see the Australian spec once it arrives. Cheers.
My dealer got one had a look like it put look under the battery is a good 4' lower So go over a curb and you mite hit the battery I all so looked at the kona it battery is level with floor How it should be
No contest. If you can afford a Y, you'll get it. Faster charging and the 'Supercharger' network, plus a superior driving autonomy & inter-connectivity.
@@pamcheung3923 yea thats true , its just i'm a button man 😜. But you're wright , should buy a tesla , without them EV's wouldn't be as hot topic as today. Tesla is allways one step ahead. See etron, 150kW charge speed and S+X gets 145 ( old) and 200kW with the updated drivetrain. If they should get an update in in material and european quality Tesla will be unbeatable ( they allready are but many ppl freak out on that topic , you know my point
I really wish they hadn't downgraded the First Edition. The Korean version looked really nice, I was very excited... And then saw the boring UK version and now I'm going off it. But a Kona is a year wait so what to do...
I was on a waiting list in North Carolina until I learned it would be 12-24 months, to perhaps getting one. I told them to forget it and I’ll get the leaf +.
Having owned four kias previously the steering is the vehicles biggest let down and when I got behind the wheel of the 2018 leaf WOW as you'll hear me say on many occasions how epically Great its steering is. Sadly I have a worn rack I believe on my leaf and it feels like I'm back in my kias :(. Cheers
@@EVOpinion me too ryan as it's getting worse! On a job right now at heathrow and on the way here I activated pro pilot and whereas before the steering wheel is very stiff it's now easily movable left or right from the centre and the pro pilot is having to make inputs all the time as if its trying to play catch up! Cheers
Been a Kia customer for over 2 decades. Before that (early 1990's) had Hyundai. Test drove this a few days ago (my dealer likes me, considering I've been buying Kia for longer than he's been in business). BUT... drove a Tesla Model-S several days before I tried the Niro... In short... despite my long association with Kia, I will be waving goodbye to them in a few months - will be getting a Tesla Model-3. Tesla is light-years ahead of everyone else in the EV space. ... and if you have to ask why, you'll never know...
@@davethevicar88 Why? I can afford whatever they throw at me. So what if it's £15k-£20k - which is what I've been told so far. I really don't need to bother with pricing. I want the car because it is arguably the best car on the road. Cost just isn't something I need to bother myself with. (LOL)
Insurance is an individual thing but we pay slightly less to insure our Model X than we do our Leaf Tekna. Both come in under £250, one of the few benefits of passing 50.
By the time it’s available to own (possibly late 2020) imagine where the EV market will be ? Seriously, start the discussion about Cobalt, Lithium and Palladium mining for EV batteries. The politics behind it all is the main, though not the only reason for why you can’t buy an EV that isn’t already on a forecourt. Another approach would be asking why the cars are taking so long to supply. Chinese interests in Democratic Republic of Congo in Artisan mining of Cobalt on black markets..... nobody wants to go near this subject because it proves how environmentally and morally disastrous EV battery production and disposal is and because they will become the enemy of an industry with vested interests. All punters want to know is how much it will cost to buy and charge an EV. Great review as usual. :)
I do find the price of new cars in England Laughable not the PCP price where you rent for three years then hand back because you can't afford the balloon payment.I can only say there is one word linked to the new car manufacturer business and it's Greed.They shouldn't call them the Kia Ceed, it should be the Kia Greed
I actually like the look of this car.I have and love my Mazda CX7 2.2 diesel and I look to the future and longer range electric cars.Unfortunetetly since carmageddon in 2008 manufacturers have put prices up every year to the point no one buys lots of people use PCP to get now because they can't afford or can't wait.If our government wants more of these on the road then they need to tell manufacturers to get real.Just Look at Audi's electric effort £73,000.Everytime I see one on the road I will think yep one born every minute and there he goes
@@EVOpinion really? The Niro looks substantially larger than my 2016 Leaf. The Leaf + barely clears 200 miles of range and doesn't have any kind of thermal management for the battery. I'd guess they're going to do the same thing with the Niro as they did with the Kona... Only thermal management for certain markets.
Nigel? Really? Maybe you prefer pretty loafers over Doc Martens, I dont know but it's got some excellent mileage per charge, decent capacity and a fantastic bottom line. Just the facts will do. Hold the far reaching opinions please they're not as impressive as one might expect. Thank you for your review, I do appreciate it.
would love one of these but cost too high compared to hybrid versions. huge deposits and then £500+ a month on pcp. thats the bit they need to work on next, reducing the prices to get much closer to ice pcp prices
A little suggestion for your review videos: Whenever you talk about range or speed, don't just talk about it in terms of miles alone. Please also include kilometers as a speed/range measurement. You *do* have quite a few viewers outside the UK with a massive interest in EVs, who are in the dark when it comes to to the term "miles" as a way to do speed/range.
Just another good but boring Eco car. These will all feel prehistoric once a few model 3 are on the road. I cant think of a reason why someone would pick this over a model 3. If you can afford the kia you can stretch to the Tesla as you get so much more. I expect that the residuals on the Tesla will be super strong too which will make the PCP deals very close.
I think it's reasonable to worry about the support system of Tesla. Kia has been making cars longer and has better customer support than Tesla. I would prefer to not have to wait months for my car to get repaired like plenty of people report with Tesla. Another thing I have read is the high cost of insurance for the Tesla.
@@EVOpinion I meant the music that's playing while you talk at the start. Volume should either be way down on the music or you should interrupt the music when you talk. It's only a few seconds but it give a bad impression IMO, look at the first 20 sec and see for yourself.
The Stonic is the Kona equivalent but Kia are not making it as an EV as yet. The E Niro is a bigger car. To be honest I dont know why people in the UK clamour for the poorly built and supported US Tesla compared to this. Id bag an E Niro every time. And arent the lights powered off the alternator so shouldnt sap your battery? You drive a Leaf mate, I dont get all this 'Nigel' stuff.
I don't like most car reviews because the reviewers don't know what they want or are looking for in a vehicle. What we get is a BS train of thought without context of the vehicle's intended purpose. This review was no better. If every car you review should be a sports car - then go drive a sports car and review that! What a crap review. ALSO - you don't want LED headlights if you live anywhere that gets snow in the winter. Incandescent headlights melt snow so that it doesn't build up and block the light while you're driving through a storm.
Picked my e-Niro up on the 18th April and I just love it. I am getting just a tad short of 300 miles from a full charge (mixture of roads from motorways to narrow single track country roads).
Once Octopus installs my smart meter and I can take advantage of the GO tariff would mean that I can easily do South Devon to London for just £2 :-)
Carol Steele yes! Living the dream 😁👍
Carol Steele - Only has short test drives so far. 30mi yesterday and about 20mi today. Drove some of my most travelled paths. Reckon I’d be looking at a mean average of 3.5 to 3.9mi/kWh. Less when loaded up or full of people.
You are lucky to get one. I could not wait for the next batch to arrive. I bought a nissan leaf instead.
james patrick I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. The Leaf is a great car 👍
Love ours!
We had used 25% charge since collection which was at 100%. 75 miles used on the trip since that last charge. So with that sort of driving that's a 300 mile range. I charged it up in town last night back to full and the gom was showing 289.
Absolutely loving the car. Plenty of space on board. Plenty of power for our needs. Comfortable. What's not to like?! 😊
Andy B it’s a great car (if you can find one!!).
Great review! I live in Sweden and have now driven my e-Niro for 7700 km. Best car i’ve ever owned. Good build quality and fun to drive. Full spec model including led-headlights, deadspot warning, heated/ventilated seats, sunroof etc. here in Sweden.
Great informative video and really well shot. Those transition touches during the walkaround tour really make it seem like a slick professional video.
Alan McConchie thank you. That’s very kind of you 😁👍
I work for Kia and this car is well worth the wait..we've taken orders and if you change your mind after leaving a 'Reservation' deposit and change your mind when it arrives in 12 months or so?? many buyers will be waiting in the wings to snap it up!! Fantastic piece of kit :)
A really well balanced and detailed review of the e-Niro. Having owned one since Mid-March we are really getting to like the car - Mrs. e-Niro uses it more than I do!..The steering isn’t the most communicative but I think this is a function of electric assist. The Top Gear/Grand Tour crowd love to bang on about this kind of thing but for the average driver like me I am perfectly happy that it steers accurately and easily. Our old Prius (now for sale) has electric assist and is similarly ’Nigel-Like’ - nice but not exciting. What will be interesting is when the RWD cars from VW and others start to appear. The opportunity there will be to make the car more ‘sporty' and appeal to the aforementioned petrol-head reviewers...but can the steering feel of a hydraulically assisted system be replicated in an electric system? A challenge for those brands who trade on those qualities. We are just about to set off for a 600 km round trip to Orleans for the weekend, destination charging at the hotel awaits. Thanks again Ryan.
Another excellent review Ryan. This channel is starting to rival Fully charged. Well done..
andy bliss that’s very kind of you. I actually met Robert Llewellyn tonight and was a bit star struck!!
Great honest review, thanks. Totally understand the Nige/Nigel descriptions.
The Kia push button cup holders never fail to impress! Long live the spinny holders
Not sure how I feel being stereotyped to a Kia e-Niro
Nigel
your spicy too nigel, love your shows, greetings from british Columbia, Canada.
The EV Puzzle ha! Sorry. What shoes do you have on?
I think you would wear a comfortable and conservative pair of shoes :)
Nigel or Nige I love the eNiro!
E-niro > Leaf
ENiro ~ kona
Ryan obvs doesn’t watch your vids evpuzzle. 😂
Rolling on neutral without regen brings you the best mileage because no extra energy transformation is needed to propel a car.
When breaking, regen is applied automatically to capture kinetic energy which otherwise be lost as heat.
Chasing best mileage you should avoid regen
Getting better and better with every vid Ryan. Look forward to the South Korean head-to-head 😁
I think this is my favorite EV. The low key design inside and out (Hopefully they don't all have the bright colour at the front). Non-sporty (comfy) handling. Good range. Not ridiculously expensive. Good size for me. Then the usual EV kicker sets in - Can't tow.
Lee Smith I wish they would do something about that. The first reasonably priced EV SUV that can tow will make a killing.
Similarly - I need a car which will take up to 5 bikes on a roof rack.
Same here. Please can we have an EV that can tow. We have a Leaf, but swopped our second car from an Auris Hybrid to an Avensis because we need a tow car. I'd much rather have one EV for all our needs, but the lack of towing ability rules it out. The Tesla Model X is too expensive, and too big for us. Owning an EV, even the 1st gen Leaf, just makes ICE cars feel old hat and I'm very aware of the pollutants pouring out of the exhaust.
Go to your dealer and put the money in his hands paying it off in full. Then spec the car completely and prepay the shipping charges. Now that the dealer is convinced that you are buying the car, perhaps he will work with his company to make it possible.
You also will be patient for 8 months THEN YOUR DEALER WILL FILLING IN THE GAP WITH The necessary info and you won't be upset because Kia has a great quality build.Interior is completely comfortable.
LED Lights go round the outside, round the outside, round the outside.
Great review Ryan......I'm seriously interested in the e-Niro......better get my name down for one.
So the Niro EV is a typical family car that happens to be electric. Sounds good. Now, if I could only buy one.
You can but you'll have to pay a premium unless you you was early on the waiting list
Looking forward to the head-to-head next week.
Drive an eNiro yesterday for a couple of hours yesterday and another 45mins. today. Nigel yep, that makes sense. Not an exciting ride but that’s not what I need. It’s got its fair share of hard plastics inside. But you don’t spend your time tapping the trim as your driving. Tends to roll/sway a bit on country roads; but the car was empty. So may be more steady loaded..?
Seats are ok and will probably give a bit when worn-in. The steering wheel’s stitching is a bit rough on the thumbs. The drive selector has a nobbled edge, which makes it easy to grip & turn. I don’t know what setting is was in yesterday but it was more fun and the steering more responsive. Today it was in ‘ECO’ and I didn’t know how to change it. I stopped and fiddled but it stayed in ECO. Which still had plenty of oomph when needed but it felt a bit numb and the steering overly soft. Like wading through treacle on a hot day.
Easy to reverse, (first car I’ve driven with a reversing camera). So that’s a novelty which didn’t get used. Yes it was on but I just used the mirrors as usual. The sensors seemed overly sensitive. I backed into a garage and beeping was like 4am on Christmas morning, when your nephew has found the toy trumpet. I get out to check and there’s an 18”/45cm clearance, (measured it).
Control surfaces and buttons were a bit on the Hot Black Desiarto side. You press a black button and a lack light lights up black to let you know you’ve done it. It was a right day, so even with the lights on, the switches and buttons sort of melded into one. But i dare say get used to it. The front windows are are auto up & down. But you have to keep a finger on the switch to fully open or close the rear windows. On the plus side, the motors are smooth and almost silent. Same goes for the wipers. The spread of the front windscreen washers is good.
Only needed the brakes a few times, due to regen on 2-3. And once in an emergency. Brand new car with brand new brakes. It was an immediate cessation of forward progression. Seat belts worked too. A driver assuming there wouldn’t be another road user, me, on the other side of the blind bend.
The supplied Type 2 cable seems a bit short. Sorry, I didn’t measure it. On the other hand. You could plug the granny lead in in York and it would stretch to Dublin.
Why oh why, does a modern car, (the eNiro) not have blind-spot monitoring. And come on Kia, spec. the UK vehicles with LEDs all round. The Kona is a 150 quid cheaper and has both. Plus rear cross traffic alert.
DC Various Vids that’s a good sum up. For info the button to change drive modes in on the centre console below the drive selector. All in all I though it was a good solid car 😁👍
Hi to you good review as usual accept to say having driven a new leaf I find it less dull and more modern not to mention it has better battery management and for me drives and feels a better quality product. As a result I have ordered one. I found the Kona a bit to small in the back and boot for me. Enjoy the videos keep it up.
Stephen clay excellent. You will be very happy with it. The range is fantastic 😁👍
I'd mention in your upcoming comparison with the Kona that the eNiro is 20cm longer so better rear passenger legroom and more cargo space in rear. If you open the bonnet/hood from memory the components are Hyundai badged on both. Is infotainment system same or slight differences between Kona & eNiro? I was waiting on eNiro but I jumped on EV train with Ioniq which I'm loving totally only about two weeks in so far. Good review though, was hoping you may do an eNiro after Kona review previously.
TassieEV1 yep. All of that covered 😁👍
I'm going to have to show this vid to my brother Nigel. he'll laugh his socks off.
nah the name is Robert - Robert e-Niro :-)
Very polished video. Great review. It's certainly my choice over the Kona, much more practical and the boot space on the eNiro is much more family friendly than the Kona.
Jon Tait thank you and yes, if you need the space it’s got more room.
Great, can't wait to see you do a comparison side-by-side with Kona Electric, compare specs and measurements (especially back seat leg room).. but would it possible to do a range test side-by-side (eg, two drivers driving together at same time), and maybe fully charge to 100% on both, and drive until each car gets down to 75% battery and see which car went further to extrapolate the full range?
Good review, thanks Ryan,
I went to my local Kia garage for some figures (my Leaf contract ends May 2020)...
Deposit :£3000
Gov Grant: £3400 (round about that figure?)
Monthly Payment: £557.03
Mileage: 8000 mls p/y
So it’s a no go for me, can’t justify those monthly payments.
May go to my Hyundai and see about the Kona, so will be interesting to see your next video comparing them 👍
Or will see what the 64kwh Leaf turns out like, and see what Nissan can offer 😉
Kona in Premium SE trim, is only £150 less on list price.
I have a cousin named Nigel ;). Thanks for your review I enjoyed it.
D R-K I’m glad you enjoyed it and hopefully your cousin isn’t offended 😁
The Kia Niro EV is a decent car. I would own one, it's well thought out.
😂 loved the Nigel and Nige observations. Had a good chuckle
I think "Nigel" has his own UA-cam Channel and drives and reviews his Hyundai Kona Electric... : )
The Canadian Niro EV (SX touring) have LED headlights and they are brilliant (pun intended!) #IloveMyNiroEV
The regen brake is also linked into sat nav and reacts accordingly becoming stronger as you approach junctions, secondly hold regen paddle fully and will regen even more powerfully than step 3, like Tesla regen power
I could drive this and charge 2 times a week instead of the every day, sometimes twice a day in my Leaf.
I wish they were available here... and that I could afford one.
Nice. Would swop out my Ioniq EV for this in a heartbeat. If I could actually get my hands on one 😉
Anything particularly wrong with the Ioniq ?
Jonathan Schneider no, it’s ideal but the longer range would be nice.
I don't get why the place for the charging cables is always under the boot. If you have anything in there it's a pain to get to them. Surely there's somewhere more logical to put a holder.
Lee Smith good point. Up front would be better.
Good thing most public chargers "in the states," include its attached cable to plug into your EV...
I reckon for day to day travel, in the boot/truck in fine. But when travelling or loaded up, I'd just sling the cables on top of the cargo being carried. Or there's the niffy poly box under the bonnet/hood adaption.
One positive thing about the Tesla is that it was designed from the ground up without a large front engine - and so has some storage up front. A shame other car companies haven’t incorporated that element yet. Perhaps second generation designs...
I like the regen hooked up to my brake pedal like on my Fiat. It feels more natural and it tells you the amount going back into the battery. The harder you brake the more energy goes back into the battery.
Hi, so between Kona and Niro, which one is nicer to drive? 😉 (handling, comfort, sound /noise, etc)
Niro
Small details I didn't think about when I bought my Toyota Auris hybrid.
First, Traffic Announcements. My previous cars had a button marked TA to turn the feature on, off or cancel current announcement. The Toyota requires a button to get into setup mode followed by four touch screen buttons to turn the feature on, same procedure to turn it off.
Second, electric folding mirrors (great if you've got them). On narrow lanes a simple push of a button folds them in reducing the car width a bit when there is an oncoming car. This is really a Tesla Model 3 issue.
Third, not a current problem, it's the disappearing hand brake. When I learnt to drive I was taught to apply the handbrake at red lights and other occasions when stopping for a few seconds. I asked a BSM instructor about this recently and he still teaches it. So, how do you do it with the new electric parking brakes?
The transmission Park is in the centre of the transmission knob and there is an electronic parking brake button on the centre console. I was wondering is the console different between right and left drive models?
In Canada we get heated and cooled seats for driver and passenger, heated seats in the back. The heat pump is standard for cold climates but they have a base model without it in order to qualify the Niro EV model for a federal EV grant. I was told Canada get 400 cars in total for this year.
Great review again and very professionally shot, but you might get some hate mail from anyone called Nigel !
David Walley it’s already begun 😁
As one of the Nigel’s out there- no hate mail, life’s too short to bother with cheap jibes- just disappointed and now unsubscribed from this channel.
anobium2000 ☹️Sorry. No offence intended.
So did Kia actually say they were only making plans for Nigel (XTC) ?
Excellent channel.
Nick Morphew thank you 😁👍
if you use level 3 regen, does the car apply brake lights to warn the guy behind that you are slowing?
Who's Nigel 😀 great car 32k tho but still great. 250 range hassle free. Still personally can't be added charging my 22kw for journeys more than 15 minutes so fits for me 💪
I did that, problem solved. thank you sir.
Incidentally I find my side charge flap on my i3 to be a bit of a pain. I prefer the front flap on the niro and our old leaf
Andy B front or rear for me is better as you don’t have to worry which side to park 😁👍
I really do love my i3 but I've had to become very adept at random reversing 😂
Andy B at least you have the turning circle to do it 😁
True!! 😂
But i think the dangling cords holding the caps is flimsy and looks cheap. SHould be a solid cap and hinge like on LEAF.
Great Video, great car - if only you could buy them (unless you were one of the lucky ones)
First edition do have LED headlights. Says so both in my user manual and on their website. Maybe it’s different depening on where it’s sold?
In sweden We have full LED on e-Niro
... and in Ireland too. But strangely not in mainland UK. No blind-spot warning either.
I drove it on some backroads in Sport mode and I found it quite exciting considering it is a heavy crossover vehicle. The steering got heavier and more agile. The throttle response also increased. I found the car pretty noisy though, with studded winter tires, but like you say, It's a Kia.
Great review. Shame the wait list is so long I’ll never even consider it. By the time you get it much better vehicles will be available. Tesla Model 3 still tops my wish list.
Great review Ryan and yes it's a Nigel. Just a shame that you'll have to wait an age to get your hands on one and pay £30k for it. We're looking for something Nigelesque but smaller and definitely cheaper. Perhaps a Colin or a Brian. I suggested to my wife that what she needs is a Sheetal but said said it needs to be reliable!
Regarding the headlights doesn't the e-Niro comes with HID's or Xenons.?
To be honest i don't like LED headlights, I had them on a hired Kia Sportage, I found they cannot give the range the Xenons on my present car give me and the worse thing is when on main beam the big white street signs reflect back at you so bright they blind you, it's almost like a car coming towards you with main beams.
Towing maximums ?
This is of interest to me. Cheers.
Ricco123tube good news. Glad to help 😁👍
Greetings from the US (Michigan). Great video review! I wish I could get my hands on one of these to replace my leased 2016 LEAF. However, it seems they are getting first release in the zero-emission states. I understand there's no app connectivity for remote climate control start and checking state of charge whilst having a coffee. Was this your finding as well?
Karl Bloss that is the only problem with these tests. I cannot use the app as it would mean registering to a brand new car before the customer so I can’t say for sure but I understand you are correct.
The Canadian models include a 5 year cell subscription to access the car remotely from the KIA App. Here's a walkaround of the Canadian model ua-cam.com/video/98WxVkF5irs/v-deo.html . Kia Canada hasn't published the specs for the model which is concerning. Not too worried about selling them,
It's only a small point but it looks like the colour matching on the charge flap is a bit off. Otherwise the only problem with it is there aren't enough available.
LiamE69 great spot. You are absolutely right. I didn’t mention it as I hoped it was a isolated case and I haven’t seen another one to compare 😳
I would be intrested to know if you can start the Cabin heat/cool from the key fob? I hope there is no need to be pluged in any more when setting climate timer as the battery is so big. thanks for the review the Wife seem keen now.
You're going to be disappointed.
Uvo app
Hello from nigel
Hello Nigel, from Lee
Hello to both of you. Now show us your shoes 😬😳
I finally did a 30-minute drive in my Kia Niro EV 2019 and noticed the driver seat is narrow (seems like it's a little tight and hugging me)... I didnt notice this in my old Nissan LEAF 2017, which I assume now has a wider seat.. anyone else noticed this? Or maybe I'll just get used to it?
Great review. I don't believe the car is bland but there trying to make an EV that looks / behaves like a normal car. It's strange that the UK spec doesn't have the LED headlights when other countries do.. It's also the same with the memory seat function which aims countries don't have. Interested to see the Australian spec once it arrives. Cheers.
My dealer got one had a look like it put look under the battery is a good 4' lower
So go over a curb and you mite hit the battery
I all so looked at the kona it battery is level with floor
How it should be
Ground clearance for both Kona Electric and eNiro is 160mm.
I have an e-niro. It's amazing. Quite surprised to hear it being called a 'Nigel' here - it really isn't.
Thought the Niro was more a Kevin :) I like this Car May have been swayed from my i3 if it was out at the time. But then there’s the model 3 mmmm
Can't think of it as a 'Kevin'. I only know one and he's not a good person. Apologies to all other Kevins out there.
what would the cost be to fill it back upto 80%
mrsthelens1 at what rate? Expensive home tariff ~£7, good for 210 miles give or take
Oh jacket upgrades
Chris Blunt good to make an effort sometimes 😁
Heads up the intro music made it quite hard to hear the presenter. Great video though
Overwatch thank you. I didn’t realise until it was too late. I just hope most people have forgotten by the end 🤫😁
Apart from the act that grey cars are more difficult to see in the UK and statistically are more likely to be involved in an accident.
E niro or model Y SR+. Yes the Y. Will be a tuff decision to make in 3 / 4 years time 😉 .
No contest. If you can afford a Y, you'll get it. Faster charging and the 'Supercharger' network, plus a superior driving autonomy & inter-connectivity.
@@pamcheung3923 yea thats true , its just i'm a button man 😜.
But you're wright , should buy a tesla , without them EV's wouldn't be as hot topic as today. Tesla is allways one step ahead. See etron, 150kW charge speed and S+X gets 145 ( old) and 200kW with the updated drivetrain.
If they should get an update in in material and european quality Tesla will be unbeatable ( they allready are but many ppl freak out on that topic , you know my point
I really wish they hadn't downgraded the First Edition. The Korean version looked really nice, I was very excited... And then saw the boring UK version and now I'm going off it. But a Kona is a year wait so what to do...
I was on a waiting list in North Carolina until I learned it would be 12-24 months, to perhaps getting one. I told them to forget it and I’ll get the leaf +.
Phil Easler I don’t think you’ll be the only one.
Why not the model 3 SR+?
On tech specs its way superior, if you are a "button person" then i get. Or no service center nearby?
Its got a single touch resistive touch screen in 2019.
Having owned four kias previously the steering is the vehicles biggest let down and when I got behind the wheel of the 2018 leaf WOW as you'll hear me say on many occasions how epically Great its steering is. Sadly I have a worn rack I believe on my leaf and it feels like I'm back in my kias :(. Cheers
Fancy a Bev Mate? Let’s hope you get it sorted!
@@EVOpinion me too ryan as it's getting worse! On a job right now at heathrow and on the way here I activated pro pilot and whereas before the steering wheel is very stiff it's now easily movable left or right from the centre and the pro pilot is having to make inputs all the time as if its trying to play catch up! Cheers
Good review.. would be interesting to see you do a comparison with the Kia Soul-EV
Nicolaas Lissenden unfortunately the one I had lost Ed up was sold but I’m told more are coming so watch this space 😁👍
EV Opinion Will do sir, response much appreciated. Keep up the excellent work!
Nicolaas Lissenden I’ll try my best 😁👍
Been a Kia customer for over 2 decades. Before that (early 1990's) had Hyundai. Test drove this a few days ago (my dealer likes me, considering I've been buying Kia for longer than he's been in business).
BUT... drove a Tesla Model-S several days before I tried the Niro...
In short... despite my long association with Kia, I will be waving goodbye to them in a few months - will be getting a Tesla Model-3. Tesla is light-years ahead of everyone else in the EV space.
... and if you have to ask why, you'll never know...
Insurance will scare you off lol
@@davethevicar88 Why? I can afford whatever they throw at me. So what if it's £15k-£20k - which is what I've been told so far. I really don't need to bother with pricing. I want the car because it is arguably the best car on the road. Cost just isn't something I need to bother myself with. (LOL)
@@thetagmarket1058 believe its quite high
Don't you have to pay car tax because before the government incentive the price is over £40k
Insurance is an individual thing but we pay slightly less to insure our Model X than we do our Leaf Tekna. Both come in under £250, one of the few benefits of passing 50.
I love it.. from everyone, Kia Niro EV and Kona EV are AWESOME.. but you cannot get it.. errr.. wait.. whats the point..?? deeerrrrr..
19:36 more nigel than nige? huh?
supergroove I offence intended 🤭
By the time it’s available to own (possibly late 2020) imagine where the EV market will be ? Seriously, start the discussion about Cobalt, Lithium and Palladium mining for EV batteries. The politics behind it all is the main, though not the only reason for why you can’t buy an EV that isn’t already on a forecourt. Another approach would be asking why the cars are taking so long to supply. Chinese interests in Democratic Republic of Congo in Artisan mining of Cobalt on black markets..... nobody wants to go near this subject because it proves how environmentally and morally disastrous EV battery production and disposal is and because they will become the enemy of an industry with vested interests. All punters want to know is how much it will cost to buy and charge an EV. Great review as usual. :)
I think you meant it’s similar to the Kona, slip of the tongue you said it’s similar to the e Niro, lol
Rob Heap I didn’t even notice that when I was editing!! Thank you 👍
It`s really a great car but unfortunately having a leadtime of 16 months. That's killing the EV attempts.
I do find the price of new cars in England Laughable not the PCP price where you rent for three years then hand back because you can't afford the balloon payment.I can only say there is one word linked to the new car manufacturer business and it's Greed.They shouldn't call them the Kia Ceed, it should be the Kia Greed
I actually like the look of this car.I have and love my Mazda CX7 2.2 diesel and I look to the future and longer range electric cars.Unfortunetetly since carmageddon in 2008 manufacturers have put prices up every year to the point no one buys lots of people use PCP to get now because they can't afford or can't wait.If our government wants more of these on the road then they need to tell manufacturers to get real.Just Look at Audi's electric effort £73,000.Everytime I see one on the road I will think yep one born every minute and there he goes
Hmm can't understand what you say in the intro because of the music 😭
Nice video, car looks a bit dull to be honest. I will be purchasing the Leaf instead next year.
Brian j either are great cars. I think the Leaf has a bit more flexibility in terms of space 👍
@@EVOpinion really? The Niro looks substantially larger than my 2016 Leaf.
The Leaf + barely clears 200 miles of range and doesn't have any kind of thermal management for the battery. I'd guess they're going to do the same thing with the Niro as they did with the Kona... Only thermal management for certain markets.
Tyler Hardy yes in terms of range the e-Niro is far better but the Leaf would suit my needs better. That said everyone is different 👍
Niro is a better call all round when compared to a Leaf
Nigel? Really? Maybe you prefer pretty loafers over Doc Martens, I dont know but it's got some excellent mileage per charge, decent capacity and a fantastic bottom line. Just the facts will do. Hold the far reaching opinions please they're not as impressive as one might expect. Thank you for your review, I do appreciate it.
Daddy is packing today...woof
Sorry, my bad. somehow I inadvertantly hit the mute button on my laptop. Sorry.
would love one of these but cost too high compared to hybrid versions. huge deposits and then £500+ a month on pcp. thats the bit they need to work on next, reducing the prices to get much closer to ice pcp prices
It's not made of flesh it's metals and plastics
A little suggestion for your review videos:
Whenever you talk about range or speed, don't just talk about it in terms of miles alone. Please also include kilometers as a speed/range measurement.
You *do* have quite a few viewers outside the UK with a massive interest in EVs, who are in the dark when it comes to to the term "miles" as a way to do speed/range.
pHD77 ah yes! Sorry. I did start to do it but got lazy as my brain can only just hold the facts I use!! I will remember to add km in the future 😁👍
@@EVOpinion or at least add small captions showing all the key figures as you talk about them 😉
Ever heard of a calculator?
Just another good but boring Eco car. These will all feel prehistoric once a few model 3 are on the road. I cant think of a reason why someone would pick this over a model 3. If you can afford the kia you can stretch to the Tesla as you get so much more. I expect that the residuals on the Tesla will be super strong too which will make the PCP deals very close.
I think it's reasonable to worry about the support system of Tesla. Kia has been making cars longer and has better customer support than Tesla. I would prefer to not have to wait months for my car to get repaired like plenty of people report with Tesla. Another thing I have read is the high cost of insurance for the Tesla.
That sound while you talk is very annoying...
Jos vermeulen that’s my voice 🤭😁
@@EVOpinion I meant the music that's playing while you talk at the start. Volume should either be way down on the music or you should interrupt the music when you talk. It's only a few seconds but it give a bad impression IMO, look at the first 20 sec and see for yourself.
What the Hell!, is going on here? You post this with no sound? I mean really!
You might want to check your speakers?
My name's Lee. I like to wear young persons trainers. Unfortunately I'm not a nice guy.
Bland
The Stonic is the Kona equivalent but Kia are not making it as an EV as yet. The E Niro is a bigger car. To be honest I dont know why people in the UK clamour for the poorly built and supported US Tesla compared to this. Id bag an E Niro every time. And arent the lights powered off the alternator so shouldnt sap your battery? You drive a Leaf mate, I dont get all this 'Nigel' stuff.
Gonads1259 ha! Perhaps I should be called nige!
I don't like most car reviews because the reviewers don't know what they want or are looking for in a vehicle. What we get is a BS train of thought without context of the vehicle's intended purpose. This review was no better. If every car you review should be a sports car - then go drive a sports car and review that! What a crap review.
ALSO - you don't want LED headlights if you live anywhere that gets snow in the winter. Incandescent headlights melt snow so that it doesn't build up and block the light while you're driving through a storm.
If it was so bad, go make your own.
Yeah, not interested in no mommy-mobile. Soccer practice anyone? I still think the Hyundai Kona looks much better. Smaller but better.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder