While I agree a F2P Haven would help a big part of the new player experience is always going to be on the community. Unfortunately the community gate keeps so much info it makes it really tough for new players who do not already know someone who plays. Looking up even the simplest mechanic at times for this game is a trial because everyone acts like everything is some great secret that needs to be kept.
They need to make it free like it was in mo1 and no houses or strongholds if your playing free. Also I’m thinking they need to get rid of the box price and just do the sub. That way more people are likely to try it and see if they will like it. And for those that paid the box price give them a badass title in game and house item bound to the account… anyway yeah Henrik needs to do something already and make it free and they need to really focus on server stability, tc, sieging, world bosses
In my opinion: F2P Haven. Then, 15$ sub fee after Haven. Lower barrier to entry, but we keep the necessary subscription so we don't suffer from any alternative garbage forms of monetization.
@ryanmitchell4044 15$ is the standard sub fee for MMOs. If you really have a hard time stomaching a sub fee then go back to other freemium MMOs that sell power in the shop, pay for convenience, and microtransaction that suck the whole spirit from the game.
@ryanmitchell4044 I really don't get it man, 15$ is nothing. And you're not compromising the integrity of the game by selling power in shop, pay for convenience and microtransactions. It's a live service game and niche at that, so I'd say you pay a premium for that, but it's a standard price for MMOs to begin with.
@@Whisperfall 15$/month is a ton for a video game. That’s a premium price for a product that’s in a miserable state. I’m not saying they shouldn’t do a sub. I’m saying this game isn’t worth 15$ a month. The proof is in the pudding though. Loads of people quit over the sub. This game isn’t good enough to compete with industry standard MMOs.
20 bucks initial paywall, 5 bucks subscription, maybe keep a 10 bucks one to have 2 characters slots and be allowed to create a guild or have 2 houses, 15 bucks to have 3 characters slots (maybe every 5 bucks + 1 character slots to avoid multi accounts) if the servers are as solid as they pretend them to be they could do it, at least to have twice / thrice as more players as we do. Cut out the time bs by reducing the mastery system impact or cancel it, make the gathering system less time consuming and more interesting, allow guild gathering buildings with npc's farming for them that other guilds can raid.
I'll probably try it out on the free weekend HOWEVER ngl the game will have to be REEEEEALLY good for me to even begin to justify 40$ + 15$ sub. It has to pretty much blow me away. It is more than likely that I wont be playing past the free weekend.
wouldve gotten this game if i could at least try the statring zone with out sub but once i realized i had to buy the game then buy a sub i was like im out
People will try it but noone will stay because every starting zone is going to be a slaughterhouse. Some veteran players will do anything to keep new players from starting the game. I've had 5 irl friends join me and try to play this game but they all quit because they get ganked over and over again and cannot progress ingame at all.
i think it is difficult. i would love to see a f2p haven. so people can try it out. on the other hand, I personally didn't enjoy haven. it felt like a dead game and i almost quit, because i thought the rest of the game could be the same. haven is a good thing to get a feel for the combat and the game flow, but not the mmo part. and the community and mmo part is the reason we play mmos. so not sure if a free to play haven would be a good thing. personally, i found the previous model was way superior, that you could f2p level to a certain point and after that you needed a subscription as premium. if it's because of the bad reviews, then they just need to communicate it better. final fantasy 14 has it's free trial as well, with the same system, you can f2p but you are capped. and that game has good reviews, so the trail shouldn't be the problem. but maybe such a model is just too expensive and not viable for them, i don't know, only they know their architecture and numbers. well, too much text xD I just wish they will get more active players and a thriving world. the players and the project would deserve it.
just make haven free to play for people who are tentative on pulling the trigger, no idea why they haven't taken such an obvious avenue after the haven re-work.
Only three days of free game time 😭🤣 that's RIDICOLOUS! SV are too greedy , and with a population of 650ppl online they do this bullshjt?? Only three days, and nothing during the Christmas days? I don't think I'll resub next month
F2p and pay to skins, make horse skins, house, stronghold, even weapon/ shield, people wont just randomly casually try "mortal" when you have to buy the game THen pay for sub
Game is fuckin dead sitting Here since 2 years Game has the Same bugs the Same exploids the Same Problems. Henrik Just keeps adding stuff instead of finishing anything He started. Also still Beyblade meta and thats all together is sadly a sign of it
if they would just go back to F2P model and put another way to make money off the player base this game would come back alive i played mo1 and been playing mo2 since beta but sadly this game is dying the player base is dropping off its going to shut down if they don't do anything better
The game is too niche. It’s hitting a to small player segment. Being good at this aint hard. It’s the result in being the player who kept playing meeting the player who has only played for 500 hours.
So you ever get tired or feel bad about lying to people about this game being even remotely decent? Hacks and RMT are out of hand, the devs and CEO are out of their element and incapable of running this project.
I don’t think rmt is a large problem in this game at all. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen but it isn’t a substantial part of the game. Wealth can be very easy to obtain depending on the area you’re in. And if you aren’t in a wealthy area you can very easily sell items in more affluent cities then move or trade for gold in your home city. That being said if you think someone is rmt just report them .
pretty much my whole group quit after it went sub. I tried it out more and join a guild and honetsly....WORSE DAMN TIME I EVER HAD I hated every second in that guild and dealing with those stuck up ol assholes that lived in it I just ditched them and the game. The lack of content for solo and small groups hurts this game even more than anything but the sub put the fence around it
While I agree a F2P Haven would help a big part of the new player experience is always going to be on the community. Unfortunately the community gate keeps so much info it makes it really tough for new players who do not already know someone who plays. Looking up even the simplest mechanic at times for this game is a trial because everyone acts like everything is some great secret that needs to be kept.
You had some cool clips in this video man! Great video.
They need to make it free like it was in mo1 and no houses or strongholds if your playing free. Also I’m thinking they need to get rid of the box price and just do the sub. That way more people are likely to try it and see if they will like it. And for those that paid the box price give them a badass title in game and house item bound to the account… anyway yeah Henrik needs to do something already and make it free and they need to really focus on server stability, tc, sieging, world bosses
the box price makes them money thorugh the banned RMTers
Hell gate + Thievery
In my opinion: F2P Haven. Then, 15$ sub fee after Haven. Lower barrier to entry, but we keep the necessary subscription so we don't suffer from any alternative garbage forms of monetization.
15$ is crazy for this. It’s not just not good enough to warrant that price tag.
@ryanmitchell4044 15$ is the standard sub fee for MMOs. If you really have a hard time stomaching a sub fee then go back to other freemium MMOs that sell power in the shop, pay for convenience, and microtransaction that suck the whole spirit from the game.
@ryanmitchell4044 I really don't get it man, 15$ is nothing. And you're not compromising the integrity of the game by selling power in shop, pay for convenience and microtransactions. It's a live service game and niche at that, so I'd say you pay a premium for that, but it's a standard price for MMOs to begin with.
@@Whisperfall 15$/month is a ton for a video game. That’s a premium price for a product that’s in a miserable state.
I’m not saying they shouldn’t do a sub. I’m saying this game isn’t worth 15$ a month. The proof is in the pudding though. Loads of people quit over the sub. This game isn’t good enough to compete with industry standard MMOs.
id play again
20 bucks initial paywall, 5 bucks subscription, maybe keep a 10 bucks one to have 2 characters slots and be allowed to create a guild or have 2 houses, 15 bucks to have 3 characters slots (maybe every 5 bucks + 1 character slots to avoid multi accounts) if the servers are as solid as they pretend them to be they could do it, at least to have twice / thrice as more players as we do. Cut out the time bs by reducing the mastery system impact or cancel it, make the gathering system less time consuming and more interesting, allow guild gathering buildings with npc's farming for them that other guilds can raid.
I hope they are sure they know what they do, if to much people come the server will colapse again and the people are mad...
"finely tuned balanced updates"🤣
I'll probably try it out on the free weekend HOWEVER ngl the game will have to be REEEEEALLY good for me to even begin to justify 40$ + 15$ sub. It has to pretty much blow me away.
It is more than likely that I wont be playing past the free weekend.
You won't be able to play, you have to have bought the game and logged in to get the free time. This is to bring back old players lol
@@gilnockie8347 Oh lol wtf that's so dumb. Anyway guess I'll just have to continue not playing Mortal Online 2 xD
wouldve gotten this game if i could at least try the statring zone with out sub but once i realized i had to buy the game then buy a sub i was like im out
People will try it but noone will stay because every starting zone is going to be a slaughterhouse. Some veteran players will do anything to keep new players from starting the game. I've had 5 irl friends join me and try to play this game but they all quit because they get ganked over and over again and cannot progress ingame at all.
f2p week-end : log in and die, die in town, die in the wild, and die again and rez killed again and again. Awesome game, but very hard for beginners
Its a game to die for 😆
@@WolfszeitYT 😅
Oh and new territory control
I don't play this because of the Sub. If it was like 7 - 10€ it would be ok I guess. With F2P weekends I've play regularly for sure.
They should just make haven f2p then offer a free 3days sub for when people leave haven to try the game out
i wouldn't let anyone into mainland without having put some money down. That's 3 days of a potential cheater account on repeat.
hell yea 🤘
f2p weekends should happen somewhat often, at least like once every 2 months. the game desperately needs a way to get old players (or new) back
They should do like mo1
They should do the 60 skill system, but with no houses again.
And maybe also some less points to spend
i think it is difficult. i would love to see a f2p haven. so people can try it out. on the other hand, I personally didn't enjoy haven. it felt like a dead game and i almost quit, because i thought the rest of the game could be the same. haven is a good thing to get a feel for the combat and the game flow, but not the mmo part. and the community and mmo part is the reason we play mmos.
so not sure if a free to play haven would be a good thing. personally, i found the previous model was way superior, that you could f2p level to a certain point and after that you needed a subscription as premium. if it's because of the bad reviews, then they just need to communicate it better. final fantasy 14 has it's free trial as well, with the same system, you can f2p but you are capped. and that game has good reviews, so the trail shouldn't be the problem. but maybe such a model is just too expensive and not viable for them, i don't know, only they know their architecture and numbers.
well, too much text xD I just wish they will get more active players and a thriving world. the players and the project would deserve it.
Good point yes.
Party hard!!
just make haven free to play for people who are tentative on pulling the trigger, no idea why they haven't taken such an obvious avenue after the haven re-work.
Party hard!
Only three days of free game time 😭🤣 that's RIDICOLOUS! SV are too greedy , and with a population of 650ppl online they do this bullshjt?? Only three days, and nothing during the Christmas days? I don't think I'll resub next month
F2p and pay to skins, make horse skins, house, stronghold, even weapon/ shield, people wont just randomly casually try "mortal" when you have to buy the game THen pay for sub
Game is fuckin dead sitting Here since 2 years Game has the Same bugs the Same exploids the Same Problems. Henrik Just keeps adding stuff instead of finishing anything He started. Also still Beyblade meta and thats all together is sadly a sign of it
If there was no bayblade no one could kill good players like me :)
whatever it takes for the game to not be shutdown. its great, 15$ free idc
if they would just go back to F2P model and put another way to make money off the player base this game would come back alive i played mo1 and been playing mo2 since beta but sadly this game is dying the player base is dropping off its going to shut down if they don't do anything better
When my wife leave me i Start to play again 😂
How are the chances in percentages 🤣
Should be a sub deal and cosmetic offering after this 3 day free trial. If not SV is being lazy and stupid. Time will tell.
The game is too niche. It’s hitting a to small player segment.
Being good at this aint hard. It’s the result in being the player who kept playing meeting the player who has only played for 500 hours.
So you ever get tired or feel bad about lying to people about this game being even remotely decent? Hacks and RMT are out of hand, the devs and CEO are out of their element and incapable of running this project.
I don’t think rmt is a large problem in this game at all. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen but it isn’t a substantial part of the game. Wealth can be very easy to obtain depending on the area you’re in. And if you aren’t in a wealthy area you can very easily sell items in more affluent cities then move or trade for gold in your home city.
That being said if you think someone is rmt just report them .
nah, game should have NA server and be free to play.
pretty much my whole group quit after it went sub. I tried it out more and join a guild and honetsly....WORSE DAMN TIME I EVER HAD I hated every second in that guild and dealing with those stuck up ol assholes that lived in it I just ditched them and the game. The lack of content for solo and small groups hurts this game even more than anything but the sub put the fence around it