I Tested FAKE Gel Blaster Surge and Compare It To The Real GB Surge Gel Ball Blaster Like Splatrball

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  • Let's see if this Gel Blaster Surge FAKE COPY is as good as the real thing. I'm naming it the SCOURGE. I don't promote buying knock-off designed products. It hurts the inventor and confuses and disappoints the consumer. I bought this simply to test and prove why you should buy the real thing.
    First of all, the real SURGE is not much more expensive, only about $10 more. It's not worth the price difference to buy the fake SCOURGE. The one advantage of the SCOURGE is the removable battery.
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    ▶ Fake SCOURGE Blaster - m.zhenduotoys.com/
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    They are similar. I've played using the Fake SCOURGE against friends using the real SURGE. The slightly lower FPS of the Fake Surge meant that they could shoot further and hit me when I could not even reach them. Also, I have to use hardened gels, otherwise, it smashes a lot of the stock gels. I prefer the replaceable battery of the fake one, but I don't like to support fake products, so I would not buy more of these. It's not much cheaper and not as good.
    ▶ Gel Blaster SURGE - Get 10% off at GelBlaster's website when you use coupon code DANIEL50302 gelblaster.com/products/gel-b...
    ▶ Newest Gel Blaster Surge Version (Amazon) - (V3) amzn.to/3BtXUBx or (V2) amzn.to/3aMynZd
    The SURGE uses a gearbox-driven piston that is a typical design of gel blasters and airsoft. It is the same gearbox uses in the popular STD M1911. All the gears, piston, piston housing, and inner barrel are plastic. The motor is not a standard size that I could find. The motor is powered by a rechargeable lithium-ion battery. Although this battery is not easily accessible, it uses a common connector, so it could be easily changed if it died completely. The circuit board charges the Li-ion battery through a USB C connector. Power to the motor is directly controlled by a micro switch.
    The battery dimensions are 46.5 x 21.3 x 11.7 mm. The connector appears to be a JST-PH2 which are 2mm pitch vs the commonly used in RC Hobby JST-XH which are 2.54mm pitch (0.1"). JST-PH2 connectors can be identified by the single straight guide on the front, vs the JST-XH connectors have 2 barb-shaped guides on the front. A battery like this with the JST-PH2 connectors is less common. Also most 500mah 2s Lipo batteries for RC seem to be ~55mm x 30mm x 14mm which is a little bit larger, and will be a tight squeeze or require some trimming of plastic between the PCB and motor to fit. That makes me wonder if the 500mah rating on the Gel Blaster battery is true. The size appears to be more similar to 400mah batteries.
    This is the closest battery I've found with the same size JST-PH2 (E-flite micro connector) connector. Dimensions: 48x29x11mm The wire looks shorter though, so not sure how well it will reach.
    Turnigy nano-tech 450mAh 2S 65C Lipo (E-flite Compatible - Blade 130X EFLB3002S35)
    hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-n...
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    I Tested FAKE Gel Blaster Surge and Compare It To The Real GB Surge Gel Ball Blaster Like Splatrball
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  • @hypezar
    @hypezar Рік тому +39

    I still remember an old Chinese man that work as a supplier tried to sell me some of his knockoff anime figures. He said "It's good as the originals and came from same factory too. Produce the original at day and making the 'fake' at night".

    • @chucksneed5947
      @chucksneed5947 Рік тому +3

      Imagine buying plastic dolls as an adult

    • @hypezar
      @hypezar Рік тому +7

      @@chucksneed5947 Well, based on CNBC news, "Kidults" are responsible for one-fourth of all toy sales annually. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @line4381
      @line4381 Рік тому

      @@chucksneed5947 imagine being a butthurt for other people's hobbies :)

    • @AmayaHinageshi
      @AmayaHinageshi Рік тому +2

      @@chucksneed5947 have you ever owned a painting? have you ever owned a decorative centerpiece? then you too have owned an object that is functionally pointless because you find it aesthetically pleasing and like having it in your home. the difference between someone who decorates with anime posters and someone who decorates with classical paintings is arbitrary at best.
      what people like to call maturity is actually a rejection of things that we might otherwise enjoy in an attempt to conform to societal expectations… and for what reason? who does it benefit? you only live once. stop being so concerned with what it means to be an “adult” and realize that what really matters is being a well rounded and responsible person who can provide for themselves and their family; not what you watch on television or how you decorate your house.

  • @UnknownButlovesFood
    @UnknownButlovesFood Рік тому +237

    The knock off is more than likely made from a mold used to make a prototype version of the Surge, the foreign manufacturers do not always destroy the old molds.

    • @MrTsiolkovsky
      @MrTsiolkovsky Рік тому +19

      Corrupt Chinese companies, classic move. Doing business there is asking to get ripped off.

    • @stormevans6897
      @stormevans6897 Рік тому +7

      @@MrTsiolkovsky Intellectual property isn't a thing there it seems.

    • @gangie
      @gangie Рік тому +5

      @@MrTsiolkovsky in other way, these people wanted to exploit a group of individuals who are underpaid and get ripped off in exchange. So i think both are in the wrong rather than one

    • @LLAALALA
      @LLAALALA Рік тому +2

      ​@@stormevans6897 The Chinese character on the box says 'patented design product' with the patent number on the bottom. So it's hard to say who the original is. I could be wrong but It could be Gel Blaster copied from the Chinese product as I don't think Gel Blaster has a patent. If anyone can find the patent from Gel Blaster please let me know.

    • @gangar99
      @gangar99 Рік тому +3

      @@LLAALALA chinese one can just change design a bit and get local chinese patent. Their government is promoting filing of patents.

  • @Eidolon1andOnly
    @Eidolon1andOnly Рік тому +69

    Now it's time to customize your Surge using some of the Scourge components, like the LED at the muzzle, and the trigger with the speed holes.

  • @AnOutLawsMother
    @AnOutLawsMother Рік тому +16

    Love the side by side comparison!!! Thanks for the info

  • @jameskarl424
    @jameskarl424 Рік тому +24

    Ill bet the "knock off" is a test revision that was not used so the company sold it off. A lot of Chinese mold companies do this. They will sell off the molds that aren't used for real company's mass production. They will claim the molds were destroyed or tossed and someone must have recovered them "oh no how did that happen" but nah... they sell that stuff off. its expensive to make molds and just let someone else make them for you right?

  • @ejonesss
    @ejonesss Рік тому +89

    looks like the hopper uses the same standard cap and threads as a soda bottle so you could use a soda bottle as a hopper

    • @infinitebane
      @infinitebane Рік тому +1

      o h n o

    • @mr_bear6362
      @mr_bear6362 Рік тому +19

      2L pop bottle = LMG

    • @Straw_Hat_Gamer
      @Straw_Hat_Gamer Рік тому +3

      its not, I've tried 3d printing one in a standard cap size and it didn't fit.

    • @Iamwantedin50states
      @Iamwantedin50states Рік тому +1

      @@Straw_Hat_Gamer 3d printing also has some problems with printing try a normal bottle

    • @Straw_Hat_Gamer
      @Straw_Hat_Gamer Рік тому +3

      @@Iamwantedin50states that’s what I used first.

  • @DrNickBailey
    @DrNickBailey Рік тому +6

    An excellent comparison video. Thanks.

  • @nicholascowling7052
    @nicholascowling7052 Рік тому +6

    Interesting that the scourge lights up with the surge doesn't... Usually the knockoffs go cheaper, so I wonder if that was originally planned by the surge and they scrapped it? I don't know if I've seen knockoffs where they try to one-up the original??? Sure definitely fires better so I wonder if the extra battery energy used to light up the deflectors in the front takes away from the firing power of the gun? Would be interesting to find out what happened with the surge and if they planned to light the deflectors up then abandoned those plans.

  • @Tyfoxer
    @Tyfoxer 2 роки тому +2

    hello this is for the other vid
    Where do I find the input gear that’s on the motor for this gun because it’s not on the nylon gears or metal gears buying list?

  • @KayoMichiels
    @KayoMichiels Рік тому +18

    So.. the knock-off is more compliant to the new EU rules regarding batteries in that they have to be easily replaced.

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому +4

      Sounds like it.

    • @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent
      @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent Рік тому +3

      Sometimes a knock-off on very rare occasions does better than the original.
      Very rarely however.
      In real life
      The Russians knocked off the B-29 the TU-4 and it was actually just a little better than the American B-29.

    • @themonsterunderyourbed9408
      @themonsterunderyourbed9408 Рік тому

      @@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent just because something is not compliant to regulations, doesn't mean that it's better.

    • @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent
      @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent Рік тому

      @@themonsterunderyourbed9408 very true.

  • @blasterbattles1260
    @blasterbattles1260 2 роки тому +32

    Im DEAD!!! We got one of these from Ali express. SAME EXACT BOX. The box alone was great entertainment haha! I have to say, this brand wasnt bad actually! The quality was better than the OG surge I had. Not bad for almost half price. It was like $32 bucks on Ali express when I got it

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому +4

      Cool, maybe yours shoots better than mine? I'm definitely at a range disadvantage if I use the SCOURGE against others using the SURGE.

    • @ViciousMasculinityy
      @ViciousMasculinityy 2 роки тому

      I got the same one, i wont regret it will i?

  • @NoLongerHomeless
    @NoLongerHomeless 2 роки тому +11

    Can you please do one comparing the new 2.0 surge with the old one

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому

      I have 3 versions that I'm reviewing/comparing, the original, 1.5 (variable FPS), and 2.0 (swappable barrels)

  • @sharxbyte
    @sharxbyte Рік тому +1

    I'd have made the feeder go in at 45 degrees to offset the hopper from the sights. Would also be interesting to see if they fit a 2L bottle

    • @eedobee
      @eedobee Рік тому

      Think about how hoppers works dude.

  • @ccggenius
    @ccggenius Рік тому +13

    Pretty sure that "oil" is just mold release. The knockoff probably just didn't wash the parts before assembling it.

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому +3

      The oil was lubricant leaking out of the piston and gearbox

  • @GeirGunnarss
    @GeirGunnarss Рік тому +1

    Aren't the threads on the hoppers just standard soda bottle threads? I wouldn't be surprised if they both use soda bottle preforms to make the hoppers.Also means you could use soda bottles for hoppers.

  • @breezybinpaid3934
    @breezybinpaid3934 2 роки тому

    How big is the bottle rail on the gel blaster surge if I order a lazer beam will it fit?

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому

      Haven't measured it, bit should be the standard size to fit accessories.

  • @shivendrasharma3299
    @shivendrasharma3299 Рік тому

    The pipe from which those balls come out in scourge was smaller in diameter than that of surge.

  • @lmuvluskyvu372
    @lmuvluskyvu372 2 роки тому +2

    I there anyway you can possibly make a video on how to change out the gears on a srb400 mine broke and I bought new parts but I do not know how to put them in, thank you

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому

      What parts did you buy? Do you have a link? Yes, working on a video for how to repair gearbox.

    • @lmuvluskyvu372
      @lmuvluskyvu372 2 роки тому

      @@engineerable I bought the part from you the link you out till on the srb400 video

    • @lmuvluskyvu372
      @lmuvluskyvu372 2 роки тому

      The v3 gear box gears

  • @patio87
    @patio87 Рік тому +2

    Looks like the laser tag guns I had in the late 90's.

    • @andrew-729
      @andrew-729 Рік тому

      That's exactly what it looks like!

  • @wm69
    @wm69 2 роки тому +2

    is it possible to do the upgrade for their internal parts? i'd prefer to mod the cheap one.

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому

      There are no upgrades for these blasters. Do you know of some? I only know of replacement gears or gearbox.

    • @wm69
      @wm69 2 роки тому +1

      @@engineerable i was looking to upgrade, since mine seems like having broken gear inside. if no upgrade, can you give a tutorial of replacing with metal gears?

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому +1

      @@wm69 These are completely different inside from larger blasters like Splatrball that use airsoft standard gears. Mainly there are only plastic gears available from China. I've seen some metal gears, but since the piston rack is still plastic, the metal gears will likely tear that up. I've posted more details here www.engineerable.com/single-post/what-s-inside-gel-blaster-surge-i-take-apart-this-gellet-blaster-toy-to-see-how-it-s-made-works

    • @wm69
      @wm69 2 роки тому

      @@engineerable thank you for the details. seems like very hassle to sourcing & replace. the parts' price also quite high. better to buy a new one.

    • @tonyhuang2654
      @tonyhuang2654 10 місяців тому

      need upgrade the gearbox , battery and the spring for the fake one.

  • @k4rec4
    @k4rec4 Рік тому +2

    The better battery of the original made the difference on shots cadence.

  • @shaddymate4095
    @shaddymate4095 Рік тому

    4:14 those are the same glasses we use in school lab

  • @john_clevername
    @john_clevername Рік тому

    God bless this was recommended.

  • @snugg_bxl9304
    @snugg_bxl9304 2 роки тому

    My gun is making a sound and when I shoot it nothing comes out sometimes the bullets just fall out, help

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому

      Your gears are probably stripped. Watch this video on how to disassemble the blaster and gearbox - ua-cam.com/video/iJ0MbjH-_bo/v-deo.html
      Check out this post for where to buy replacement gears and gearbox. www.engineerable.com/single-post/what-s-inside-gel-blaster-surge-i-take-apart-this-gellet-blaster-toy-to-see-how-it-s-made-works

  • @zanerack1021
    @zanerack1021 2 роки тому +3

    I saw your videos about the splatrball guns. I was wondering if I could have one? They are kind of expensive. I would greatly appreciate it. Please and thank you.

  • @bj3179
    @bj3179 Рік тому +3

    1:53 shows "made in china" 3X times, on the sticker in, also in the top right box and anouther time under the sticker but that one is actually hard to see at a glance 😂

  • @staix8074
    @staix8074 Рік тому +2

    I bought the rip off one and the real one but I lost the charger to the rip off one, do you know what it is called and where I can buy it? Thank you 😊

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому +2

      2 pack of chargers for 10 bucks amzn.to/3drMDYR

  • @raphaelb.7331
    @raphaelb.7331 Рік тому +1

    I had a stroke reading the title.

  • @carlowillisferjontilla8415
    @carlowillisferjontilla8415 Рік тому

    i'm pretty sure the one i bought online is the "scourge", i gave it to my son as a Gift. At first it was work fine but after a few minutes of test firing without gellets (because it's still soaked in water) the scourge stopped working. I guess the problem is the gears because the motor is still working. Did you experienced this with your scourge? if yes, can you make a video how to fix it? 😁

    • @user-nv1gm2zj7y
      @user-nv1gm2zj7y 10 місяців тому

      2 years still alive everyday shooting birds rats. jus to pester them to go away. yes i bought gel blaster to specifically irritate wild life always remove water from the gels before you put it in the hopper

  • @PopoXReturnz
    @PopoXReturnz Рік тому +2

    1:17
    "...it looks like they were striking a balance between looking like a gun and looking like a toy..."
    I don't know what you mean... It looks nothing like a Hi-Point... HAH.

  • @k3wld3wd95
    @k3wld3wd95 Рік тому +1

    Is the knock-off Gel Blaster identical right down to the label saying "Made in China"?
    🤨🤔😳

  • @Ghostfr120
    @Ghostfr120 Рік тому +2

    It’s not bout playing it’s about sliding on the ops

  • @Thehuntedfree
    @Thehuntedfree Рік тому

    Did they not get a patent?

  • @moonshoos6148
    @moonshoos6148 Рік тому

    That 384 fps shot is interesting

  • @SlumberBear2k
    @SlumberBear2k Рік тому

    no idea how i got here but it is interesting nonetheless. i watched the whole thing for some reason.

  • @timtamthemememan7444
    @timtamthemememan7444 Рік тому

    That's not oil it's a child's sweat and tears

  • @karmitfrog7968
    @karmitfrog7968 Рік тому

    are this orbs environment friendly?

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому

      So they claim. Same stuff that's often added to soil to retain water and slowly release it.

  • @MalificPlaza
    @MalificPlaza Рік тому

    i watch two gel blaster vids and i get recommended more and i clicked this cuz i thought the guns were anime blushing if u can see it but its a "site" for the gun lol

  • @garethnorthwood8055
    @garethnorthwood8055 Рік тому

    What happens to the 3200 plastic pellets do they bio grade ?

    • @ermakers1297
      @ermakers1297 Рік тому

      They aren't plastic pellets. They are gels which are very much biodegradable. They are even commonly used in potting soil to provide water over longer periods of time. They are also used in baby diapers, hair gel, gel soaps, and can be used in some food products. They are environmentally safe and can be made food grade.

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому

      @@ermakers1297 👍

  • @taylorrichter1320
    @taylorrichter1320 2 роки тому +3

    Wonder what the fps difference is compared to the new Surge 1.5/2.0

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому +1

      I have both of those also, the SURGE 1.5 with variable 90-170 FPS, and what I assume is the SURGE 2.0 (got it at Walmart) with fixed 175 FPS. I have not yet tested the 1.5 variable, but the 2.0 shoots reliably right above 175fps.

    • @taylorrichter1320
      @taylorrichter1320 2 роки тому

      @@engineerable awesome man lemme know the difference with the 1.5 I have those but my acetech I tracer won't read them well lol

    • @taylorrichter1320
      @taylorrichter1320 2 роки тому

      @@engineerable so weird how they changed them so fast from the 1.5 to the 2.0 but I think it was product issues cuz I had got 2 that had issues and needed to be replaced but they hooked me up when it happened good customer service

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому

      What issues did you have with them. The versions are weird. I bought the 175 fixed FPS at Walmart, but the ones being sold online like at Amazon are still the variable FPS. I wonder if the 175 fixed FPS is a Walmart exclusive?

    • @taylorrichter1320
      @taylorrichter1320 2 роки тому +1

      @@engineerable no the new ones are being sold directly from them as well other places still had the old ones left in stock and I had 1that wouldn't shoot far or hard at all took them apart made sure all the air seals were good and still didn't shoot right the other I had worked good at first then started acting up but an internal clean and relube and it's back to shooting hard again I got 3 1.5s total now lol

  • @bonkser
    @bonkser Рік тому

    i thought you said scurge and made a joke about the terraria calamity mod song "scourge of the universe" then it says scourge on the test fire :skull:

  • @user-pb4be9ch6b
    @user-pb4be9ch6b 9 місяців тому

    "Fake" Hopper, man that looks real to me...

  • @user-rl1vs8ed7h
    @user-rl1vs8ed7h Рік тому

    The orange one even break some gel when firing.

  • @tywingfield6953
    @tywingfield6953 2 роки тому +4

    If you use splatter ball ammo instead of the shitty orbees that come with the gel blaster this thing shoots like a paintball gun

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому

      I agree, although even better than Splatrball ammo is hardened gel balls. They shoot faster, more accurate, and don't smash coming out.

    • @zombiehalo9588
      @zombiehalo9588 Рік тому +1

      @@engineerable a bb then

  • @MobileDecay
    @MobileDecay 4 місяці тому

    Australia: It’s a real gun! 😳

  • @ellisparchment1909
    @ellisparchment1909 Рік тому

    You should switch batteries?

  • @ten6466
    @ten6466 Рік тому +1

    Bro if you find another fake gel blasters ask if you can try to shoot them🤣

  • @ngalorngidul3961
    @ngalorngidul3961 Рік тому

    They use hand granade as magazine. 🤨
    I know its removeable batteries, but why they not use the common batteries. 🙊

  • @timtan3695
    @timtan3695 Рік тому

    Price Reveal of those two!! 😁😁😁

  • @armaanthind8195
    @armaanthind8195 2 роки тому +1

    For anyone wondering the scourge is about 40 usd

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому

      The SURGE is worth the $20 extra, just wish it had a removable battery. If you try to use the Scourge to battle someone with a SURGE, they'll be able to hit you before you can reach them.

    • @armaanthind8195
      @armaanthind8195 2 роки тому

      @@engineerable I agree I had the surge as well I love how fast it fires

  • @beep-bopchawie6102
    @beep-bopchawie6102 Рік тому

    But whats the cost of the two

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому

      At this point in time, the SURGE costs about $50, and the SCOURGE is probably about $39.

  • @yeetmcskeet5093
    @yeetmcskeet5093 Рік тому

    That oil probably isn't oil it's probably a mold release used to take out all the Plastics from the injection molding

    • @yeetmcskeet5093
      @yeetmcskeet5093 Рік тому

      So I guess you can say it's a kind of oil Chinese flavored

  • @krystahnash6803
    @krystahnash6803 2 роки тому

    I'm confused. Which is the better product

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому

      The Gel Blaster SURGE performs much better. It shoots a little faster, and doesn't smash the gel balls. The only advantage the SCOURGE (fake one) has is a replaceable battery.

  • @gautamborthakur2283
    @gautamborthakur2283 Рік тому +1

    What if... The Kickstarter guys took a product from AliExpress and made it look like a Kickstarter... Never heard anyone else doing it before... 🌚

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому

      The reverse happens more often, it's just hard to tell, because AliExpress steals the images and content

  • @wakcedout
    @wakcedout Рік тому +1

    They likely have this manufactured in china and the company that assembles it either sold the design or has another assmebly line where they make the exact thing with a different name and sell it worldwide.
    In order to prevent this when you have a factory in china mass produce your product, you need a copyright in China as well otherwise they won't care if you have one in the USA.
    And the subtle differences are how they avoid lawsuits where the copright is applicable.

    • @Sakky_wakky
      @Sakky_wakky Рік тому

      The made in china sticker on the box was a give away

    • @ryanokeefe12
      @ryanokeefe12 Рік тому

      It clearly shows that it's made in china on the barcode sticker.. not sure how this was missed on the video.
      Copyright is pointless in China. Their Chinese governments do nothing to prevent it, and stopping one manufacturer only solves the problem for a few days, before another manufacturer sees an opening... I know of people that have gone oversees to confront manufacturers, only to be met with armed staff and police who escorted them off of the manufacturers property (the police are not copyright law upholders).
      There are only two ways to beat conterfeit items being made/sold (especially in China); 1) Be such a large company that the manufacturer wouldn't dare to make a clone of your product, putting them at risk of losing the contract to manufacture the original product, or, 2) Complete the assembly of the product locally with parts sourced from different manufacturers and always be ahead of the curve with new products or updates to existing products.
      Most people who deal with China for manufacturing won't be a giant company so they only have the second option. Keeping the assembly local and sourcing parts from multiple manufacturers stops any one manufacturer having the complete design required to make the product. Despite this, clones will eventually begin to turn up, but making sure your own product is either updated to make it perform better than the clones or you've already moved on to a different product means you're always selling something that has additional value and therefore, gives people a reason to source it from you, OR, you've already made a new product and that new product is not yet being copied so you maintain your market position at the top.

  • @TheBoringReason
    @TheBoringReason Рік тому +1

    3:20 That battery will for sure be 1400Mah. I got a 1000mah 4.2V battery in my VR controllers and they are skinnier and shorter..

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому +1

      Your battery is different because it's a single cell lipo. For sure they are mislabeling the capacity. I have a tester, but it's not even worth the time on that battery.

    • @TheBoringReason
      @TheBoringReason Рік тому

      @@engineerable huh.. but eh.. it does what it does

    • @Dead_Goat
      @Dead_Goat Рік тому

      @@engineerable You probably should test it. Something that size definitely can be 1400mah.

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому

      @@Dead_Goat It's not. And it doesn't last as long as the stock SURGE battery that is marked 500mah. It's also about half the size of the 500mah battery. Cheap batteries are notoriously mislabeled for double to triple the real Ah ratings.

    • @davidsandlin9686
      @davidsandlin9686 Рік тому

      @@engineerable could be the fake has a bigger draw. I’m not saying the batteries right but it might be worth testing to see

  • @stormevans6897
    @stormevans6897 Рік тому

    Took me 3 minutes to realize this thing shoots orbies.

  • @sluggang5502
    @sluggang5502 Рік тому

    looks like a team fortress gun

  • @CesarAguilar-nq9ln
    @CesarAguilar-nq9ln Рік тому

    Are we not going to talk about the 3 sixes ? Lol

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому +1

      😂 didn't even notice that. That's proof that it's a fake.

  • @5uxxo2
    @5uxxo2 Рік тому

    The original brand player 1 controller vs the cheap aftermarket player 2 controller

  • @nellen55
    @nellen55 2 роки тому

    thats a crazy crono

  • @MrDecelles
    @MrDecelles Рік тому

    According to wikipedia that type of products was done years ago and they now have bottom hoppers instead of gravity feeding top hoppers.
    This is a repackaged gun with a sci fi look to it. The kickstarter "inventor" is saying bullshit in his marketing.
    There is a ton of "repurposed" chinese junk toted as being something new.

  • @justaorginarygamer2870
    @justaorginarygamer2870 2 роки тому +4

    Tbh they are pretty much the same thing I have both of them and they are very similar in my opinion

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому +1

      They are similar. I've played using the Fake Surge against friends using the SURGE. The slightly lower FPS of the Fake Surge meant that they could shoot further and hit me when I could not even reach them. Also, I have to use hardened gels, otherwise it smashes a lot of the stock gels. I prefer the replaceable battery of the fake one, but I don't like to support fake products, so I would not buy more of these. It's not much cheaper and not as good.

  • @juniormonegro411
    @juniormonegro411 Рік тому +2

    Swap the battery on the scourge to a 11.1v

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому +2

      Don't think the gears will last long at 11.1v. Need to replace with metal gears.

  • @zombiehalo9588
    @zombiehalo9588 Рік тому

    It's funny that you say that you know they're not supposed to look like guns but then you have companies now in China that make them look like AK-47s and M16s and stuff and you know it's okay if you're targeting more of the older audience but there are some ads on UA-cam that advertise these as kid friendly

  • @JonO387
    @JonO387 Рік тому

    So, it blasts fake gels?

  • @bluedragontoybash2463
    @bluedragontoybash2463 Рік тому

    both are not bad in my opinion

  • @TheJacobbridges25
    @TheJacobbridges25 Рік тому +1

    That lipo saying it's 1400 mah lol what a joke probably only 300 if that

  • @LLAALALA
    @LLAALALA Рік тому

    The Chinese character on the box says 'patented design product' with the patent number on the bottom. So it's hard to say who the original is. I could be wrong but It could be Gel Blaster copied from the Chinese product as I don't think Gel Blaster has a patent. If anyone can find the patent from Gel Blaster please let me know.

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому

      Interesting, thanks for the translation.

  • @DHunt88
    @DHunt88 Рік тому

    I forsee a cease and desist in their future

  • @riddickraymond7067
    @riddickraymond7067 Рік тому

    Trying to make it clear it's a toy so you don't get shoot by cops

  • @38Jemar
    @38Jemar Рік тому

    I know something you don't know, and I've got something to tell you 😃🤣

  • @IkeWut
    @IkeWut Рік тому

    How bad is they

  • @AE1OU
    @AE1OU 2 роки тому +1

    I mean, the surge is basically the imitation of the skd 1911 gel blaster model from china.

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому

      Yes, which is good since it makes it easy to find a replacement gearbox.

    • @tonyhuang2654
      @tonyhuang2654 10 місяців тому +1

      @@engineerable right, the surge one can be replaced by a SKD-1911 gearbox.

  • @RabiesTheBeagle
    @RabiesTheBeagle Рік тому

    I git 2 4 5 dollars each. Im blessed

  • @AlphaXiro
    @AlphaXiro Рік тому

    It's the needle gun from halo

  • @flexopuppy
    @flexopuppy Рік тому +1

    maybe if they made it look like an apple that would have made you less scared?

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому +2

      For sure. Luckily it didn't look like a banana 🍌

  • @decayedfate3313
    @decayedfate3313 2 роки тому +1

    How baldy do they hurt

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому

      If you can't take the pain, stay away from the game. Depends on distance, and clothing worn. If it's on bare skin, it's like getting snapped with a rubber band.

  • @Next_plzzz_
    @Next_plzzz_ Рік тому

    Bro it's literally there! Above the bar code it says Made in China

  • @Michiho.
    @Michiho. Рік тому

    what about price comparison?

  • @mrtypelt2k
    @mrtypelt2k Рік тому

    It’s look like a laser tag blaster

  • @NBC_NCO
    @NBC_NCO Рік тому

    I have a 1/28 rc car that has a 400mah lipo. What you had in your hand looked very similar to that.
    Definitely over rated mah on yours.
    One more thing when a product is made in China it is no longer protected by copyright protection and it is perfectly okay for one company to copy another company without any laws being broken.

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому +1

      Right on, finally someone with some proper experience confirming false battery ratings.

    • @raohfan6256
      @raohfan6256 Рік тому

      No. It is just the cost of enforcing the law. Did you see anyone faking Huawei or OnePlus phone in China? Nope bcs they have a team of lawyers who can kick your ass if you do that in China. Guess if someone fakes Huawei phone in the US, what Huawei can do?
      Also, as long as they didn’t patent in China, anyone is free to patent. Just like the patent thief case in the US as well. You need to prove you are the original author and they steal it from you. Again, the cost is what matters. If the Surge people are ambitious, they should patent it in China early on as well.
      Assuming the Surge is the original design and they patented in the US, it is just insane to assume the same patent will be automatically effective in China or the rest of the world. It’s different countries. What do you think China is? Part of the US? Then you guys will have Chinese President everything term then.
      Lastly, the product should not be imported into the US if there is a patent accepted by the US patent officer. The US custom is the one to blame by letting it in.

    • @NBC_NCO
      @NBC_NCO Рік тому

      @@raohfan6256 when a US company has a product made in China such as Traxxas. The Chinese copy it...rebrand it and sell it .
      You can challenge the Chinese government but it seldom takes you anywhere.

    • @raohfan6256
      @raohfan6256 Рік тому

      @@NBC_NCO Yes, I agreed with you on challenging the China government part. But that’s when you got people who already stole your intellectual property and patented it before you can. It’s too late to be honest at this point.
      What I would do, if I’m the supply chain manager of this company, I would advise the higher up management applying for the patent application in China before the product design and spcs being sent to the Chinese manufacturer. And I can easily sue the manufacturer for millions of patent fees in the court. Especially when you have a patent already, it’s a easy win. This is actually what the most of the US companies have been doing lately.
      And honestly, the patent/legal fees cost only a fraction of what the lawyer charges in the US. The Surge people should have patented it before sending it to manufacturing. Specially when patent theft happens everywhere with all the overseas manufacturers(India, Vietnam and China). If the Surge people want to be more successful, they just have to manage their supply chain better without keeping their mind on least spend possible.

  • @ogmog
    @ogmog Рік тому +1

    Critical mistake to not shoot the other ammunition that was made for the knock-off

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому

      The ammo included with the knock-off is generic, cheap ammo. It wasn't "made for it". Better to compare using the same ammo.

    • @ogmog
      @ogmog Рік тому

      @@engineerable made for, or not.. the makers put that ammo there to be used with it. I've never seen these shitty toys before so I don't know how different the ammo is.

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому +1

      @@ogmog @Kim Sandstedt Ammo varies widely in quality. The generic stuff included with cheap blasters is basically trash. The stuff I used in the test is a little better quality. Then there are high end hardened gel balls that have better accuracy and higher FPS. Once you run out of the included ammo, you have to buy more, and it won't exactly the same that came with it.

  • @malakai4920
    @malakai4920 2 роки тому

    I spent all my birthday money on the fake one and it barely shoots

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  2 роки тому

      That sucks 😔

    • @mir1136
      @mir1136 Рік тому +1

      That's ok, u get 1 birthday every year
      perhaps u'd be smarter on ur next b-day

    • @rogeliocano9536
      @rogeliocano9536 Рік тому

      @@mir1136 😂

  • @seoexpertise
    @seoexpertise Рік тому

    I prefer the splurge

  • @sexyman1503
    @sexyman1503 9 місяців тому

    next time use the same batteries on both

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  9 місяців тому

      You can't, SURGE batteries are built in.

  • @RavanOP
    @RavanOP Рік тому

    5:52 scary oil??? Like i get it, u dnt like the duplicate product cz u get paid from the original one but scary oil 🙂

  • @Sulfurin
    @Sulfurin Рік тому

    bruda wdym you wont trust the glasses? its a gell blaster not airsoft that shoots 500fps

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому

      From experience, friends have gotten gel shrapnel in their eyes because the coverage is not good, and they don't fit everyone's face the same.

    • @Sulfurin
      @Sulfurin Рік тому

      @@engineerable oh proved me wrong

  • @maxschmerz574
    @maxschmerz574 Рік тому

    @11:10 Scourge, Surge, Scourge, Surge, Scourge, Surge, Scourge, Surge, Scourge.......WHHAAAATTT? -shutting down-

  • @kikook222
    @kikook222 Рік тому

    Gel blaster got recalled for being a fire hazard.

  • @dav1dgear
    @dav1dgear Рік тому

    Btw the design is a knock off pistols from mass effect

    • @engineerable
      @engineerable  Рік тому

      Link?

    • @dav1dgear
      @dav1dgear Рік тому

      @@engineerable apparently I can't post link here, you tube keep deleting it. Just search heavy pistol mass effect 3

  • @Scootertuner420
    @Scootertuner420 Рік тому

    So I'm not into your hobby at all. Seems like the scourge is a good deal. I wish you would have opened it up as well

  • @nani7685
    @nani7685 Рік тому

    pretty decent for a knockoff

  • @fishingwithkt2756
    @fishingwithkt2756 Рік тому

    That’s a lie that battery is actually 7.4 volts

  • @louieandrew9521
    @louieandrew9521 Рік тому

    think its an OEM

  • @OrignalRobRobert
    @OrignalRobRobert Рік тому

    That's not oil, sir .........

  • @Archiballd123
    @Archiballd123 Рік тому

    batery is like 500mah not 1400 This is smaller battery like in Cymoglock ( asg gun Cyma cm 0.30) and cymoglock have 600mah lipo battery but sorry its shit first and secend

  • @ryu03xism
    @ryu03xism 5 місяців тому

    a small mod can fix that

  • @zionkid420
    @zionkid420 Рік тому

    A ball... It's a pineapple grenade, dork.

  • @samjanssens1509
    @samjanssens1509 Рік тому

    this is just an advertisement ?