Characters, Symbols and the Unicode Miracle - Computerphile

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  • Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
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    Representing symbols, characters and letters that are used worldwide is no mean feat, but unicode managed it - how? Tom Scott explains how the web has settled on a standard.
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    This video was filmed and edited by Sean Riley.
    Computerphile is a sister project to Brady Haran's Numberphile. See the full list of Brady's video projects at: bit.ly/bradychannels

КОМЕНТАРІ • 617

  • @Jivvi
    @Jivvi 10 років тому +7803

    Which side of a napkin is the back?

  • @Computerphile
    @Computerphile  10 років тому +1411

    This was shot at the Marriott St Pancras Renaissance in London - kind thanks to them for allowing us to film there! >Sean

  • @AndreiZisu
    @AndreiZisu 10 років тому +3714

    This guy just radiates enthusiasm

  • @praemdonck
    @praemdonck 7 років тому +2240

    You forgot to mention that the great hacker behind the great hack is Ken Thompson, the genius behind unix

  • @tuberlook1
    @tuberlook1 10 років тому +598

    It's rare to see a person who is knowledgeable, passionate and able to explain in a linear and easy to understand manner.

  • @MikkoRantalainen
    @MikkoRantalainen 7 років тому +4149

    There's a saying that UTF-8 was successful because USA did not need to understand it. (Explanation: they could just keep using ASCII and magically they are compatible with UTF-8).

  • @coldfire6869
    @coldfire6869 10 місяців тому +29

    Tom Scott explaining UTF-8 in some hotel lobby 9 years ago. Very nice!

  • @codeman99-dev
    @codeman99-dev 10 років тому +749

    While designing ASCII they also chose "00110000" (48) for character zero. This is even more impressive than "a is 1" since you can then XOR any character with the value of character zero to find out if it's a decimal number (0 through 9)! :)
    In code example:
    char x = random(0, 128);
    if (x ^ '0' < 10) {
    // variable x is a decimal number character
    } else {
    // variable x is NOT a decimal number character
    }

  • @pao_lumu
    @pao_lumu 7 років тому +210

    3 years later, still quality.
    -Well, give-or-take a few leap seconds-

  • @ACDCBoy62
    @ACDCBoy62 9 років тому +855

    Hey, this video actually helped me fix a bug! I was trying to pass an ANSI filename to a function, and it would always fail. When I looked at the variable watch, the string showed up as a bunch of Chinese characters, so I was immediately able to recognize it was being reinterpret-casted to Unicode, rather than the proper typecast I assumed would happen!

  • @dominiquestrauss-kahn2509
    @dominiquestrauss-kahn2509 9 років тому +924

    Where is he presenting all this? That place looks rather pleasant.

  • @UteChewb
    @UteChewb 3 роки тому +18

    Minor goof by Tom at 6:25 he writes 0110 0001 and writes 'A' when it should be 'a'. But a great video, and perhaps this is a deliberate mistake to see who was awake in class. I remember when I first read how unicode works I was blown away, but Tom's explanation is so much better than how I learnt it.

  • @amykathleen2
    @amykathleen2 9 років тому +295

    Just want to mention, not that people probably care, that Korean actually has a phonetic alphabet, unlike Chinese and Japanese. The letters do arrange into syllable blocks (e.g. ㅎ[h]+ㅏ[a]+ㄴ[n]+ㄱ[g]+ㅜ[u]+ㄱ[k]=한국[Hanguk, meaning Korea]), so I'm not sure if individual letters are encoded or if entire syllable blocks are encoded, but it is an alphabet nonetheless.

    • @SexyStarfleet
      @SexyStarfleet 9 років тому +15

      I didn't know that. I remember studying Korea in world history and how it was very different from Japan and China. I guess I never thought about the language being that different. That's cool, and I'm sure it makes keyboards easy for you guys :)

    • @amykathleen2
      @amykathleen2 9 років тому +44

      Yeah, it's pretty cool. I'm a Korean-language learner, and I mastered Korean touch-typing (on an American keyboard, no less) in about a month. :)
      The Korean alphabet, called Hangeul, was invented by a team of scholars led by King Sejong the Great in 1443 so Koreans wouldn't have to use Chinese characters to write anymore. Whenever I talk to a Korean and the topic of Chinese characters comes up, I always tell them, "I'm very grateful for King Sejong!"

    • @raizin4908
      @raizin4908 9 років тому +74

      amykathleen2 You might not care, but Japanese texts have a large number of phonetic "letters" as well, unlike Chinese. Although it's technically not an alphabet but a syllabary. (Each "letter" signifying a syllable, rather than a "sound")
      Japanese uses a mix of phonetic and non-phonetic characters, and for a significant number of words both phonetic and non-phonetic spellings are common. It's also entirely possible to write any Japanese sentence fully in phonetic characters, but it's practically impossible to make a proper sentence without them. (Although it should be noted most sentences, especially more complex ones, would be significantly harder to read were they written fully phonetically.)
      In a modern Japanese sentence such as this:
      これは日本語での例文である。
      all the curly characters (これは での である) are phonetic, and the more rigid/angled characters (日本語 例文) are usually non-phonetic characters, often identical to characters used in Chinese (汉语 / 漢語). Although there's also a type of angled phonetic characters (カタカナ), which is usually reserved for loan words and foreign names and such.
      It's likely you already knew this, but I felt the need to clarify for interested uninformed passersby.

    • @amykathleen2
      @amykathleen2 9 років тому +9

      Raizin Yes, I did know the basics. But I didn't know that the two syllabaries had different uses and different "kinds" of shapes, that's really interesting! Some of those angled phonetic characters really look a lot like Chinese characters - like 力 and 夕. I think if that syllabary was the more common one, I wouldn't be able to tell Chinese and Japanese writing apart, as my personal rule is "Japanese is the one with the squiggly characters," haha. Thank you for sharing that information! :D

    • @amykathleen2
      @amykathleen2 9 років тому +26

      ***** The point I was trying to make is that, since not long after the Korean war, Korean has been written almost *exclusively* using a phonetic *alphabet*. Japanese usually uses a mix of Chinese characters and syllabic characters, while Chinese usually uses Chinese characters exclusively. In modern Korean, Chinese characters are only used in high-level texts, such as medical or legal journals. Everything else is written using the Korean alphabet (which, again, is *not* a syllabary, unlike bopomofo and kana, and is *not* based on borrowed letters, unlike pinyin). Many Koreans can't even write their own names using Chinese characters. So I made my comment to correct the fact that, in the video, he listed several alphabets (English, Cyrillic, Arabic), and then said, "Japanese, Chinese, and Korean characters." This is wrong; Korean uses an alphabet and should have been listed with the alphabets if it was to be listed at all.

  • @blenderpanzi
    @blenderpanzi 9 років тому +143

    Another nice feature: Sorting UTF-8 strings under the assumption they are ASCII strings will sort them correctly in ascending codepoint order. For proper sorting in the context of a language you need of course much more complicated methods, but having some kind of sort that somehow makes sense for some technical applications that can be performed by something that was written for ASCII is already very nice.

  • @squgeim
    @squgeim 9 років тому +344

    Tom Scott is the James Grime of Computerphile!

  • @douggwyn9656
    @douggwyn9656 9 років тому +257

    The original version of UTF-8 was invented by Thompson and Pike for use in Plan 9 from Bell Labs. There were already ISO standards for character encoding; ISO 10646 is the master character compendium and assigns codes throughout a 31-bit range. I was impressed enough with the Plan 9 scheme that I promoted it in my C Standards column in the Journal of C Language Translation. The advantages of UTF-8 covered in this video helped its adoption by many applications needing to support an international character set. By the way, Plan 9 only implemented the 16-bit range, although the full scheme can encode any 31-bit pattern. The current IETF RFC3629 unnecessarily constrains UTF-8 to 16 bits. I'm at the beginning of the process of trying to undo those restrictions.

    • @iemobile930
      @iemobile930 9 років тому +8

      This is interesting Doug. I plan to watch this later. Happy 4th to you too.

  • @benjaminfoo9270
    @benjaminfoo9270 10 років тому +88

    I've never seen a guy explaining utf8 so well and so excited like this fellow here - really great job

  • @Computerphile
    @Computerphile  10 років тому +78

    There will be more with Tom :) >Sean

  • @mehrosenasir9974
    @mehrosenasir9974 Рік тому +5

    I remember when I watched this video for the first time back in 2018, didn't make any sense to me. Now I can understand how beautifully he explains the complete journey started from Ascii to UTF 8.

  • @Computerphile
    @Computerphile  10 років тому +13

    See the "extra bits" film for a further explanation! (link in the description) >Sean

  • @TheBoxOfBeats
    @TheBoxOfBeats 10 років тому +866

    6:30 -- 01100001 is not 'A' and its not 65, its 97 / 'a' . Or am I wrong?

  • @chandragie
    @chandragie 7 місяців тому +3

    This video showed up to me in Dec 2023, 10 years later from when this video launched. And I'm still amazed on how this guy explained it 👍👍

  • @taserianAlephNull
    @taserianAlephNull 8 років тому +121

    This was an excellent presentation. Thank you for making it so understandable!
    I do have a very minor quibble. At 7:18, there's an error; in a 2 byte Unicode character, having 11 bits available (5 from the header, and 6 from the continuation) will only allow you to get values up to 2048, not 4096.

  • @samuvisser
    @samuvisser 5 років тому +3

    I watched this video like 5 times over a long period now. Keep coming back to it, I so love the explanation and the storytelling!

  • @devjock
    @devjock 10 років тому +1245

    Are you listening to me Neo, or are you distracted by "Woman in the red jeans" 5:40
    Great explanation!

  • @rlamacraft
    @rlamacraft 10 років тому +3

    Love this guy's enthusiasm and this type of video converting the odd bits of computing like how number phill covers the odd bits of maths rather than teach a full course in those subjects

  • @nameredacted1242
    @nameredacted1242 3 роки тому +3

    For a restaurant setup, this is BIZARRELY informational and useful. So strange!!!

  • @DaChilla1
    @DaChilla1 8 років тому +170

    Holy shit, this guy is freaking enthusiastic about it. But he has a point.... I only recently learned the way UTF-8 works and I gotta say, this is some freaking genius hack.

  • @user-bd5ln2ex6r
    @user-bd5ln2ex6r Рік тому +3

    Thank you for providing Korean subtitles. You explained it so well that I could understand it well. Thank you.

  • @manogilissen
    @manogilissen 10 років тому +25

    7:17 Why does he say 4096? You can use 5+6 = 11 bits so wouldn't that be 2^11 = 2048?

  • @chridal
    @chridal 10 років тому +11

    This guy is a LOT of fun. He's so enthusiastic! Please have him on again!

  • @torlack
    @torlack 10 років тому +14

    There are problems with UTF8. For languages that aren't latin1 based, UTF8 can often take more space than UTF16 or ucs2. When we localize our games for Asian languages, we usually use ucs2 instead of UTF8. We have so much dialog that we have to be careful. Also, for those who said UTF16 is the same as ucs2, it isn't,. Ucs2 is a character set while UTF16 is an encoding. UTF16 supports many more code points that aren't in ucs2

  • @another-person-on-youtube
    @another-person-on-youtube 4 роки тому +13

    This was unironically riveting for me. I'm amazed at the incredibly clever solutions that make up the foundations of mundane computer operation.

  • @dunx125
    @dunx125 10 років тому +5

    This guy is brilliant at explaining things, please feature him more often!

  • @diogoj95
    @diogoj95 10 років тому +90

    5:38 i see what you did there xD

  • @joedeshon
    @joedeshon 4 роки тому +1

    Definitely one of my favorite Tom Scott videos!

  • @m_jacko12
    @m_jacko12 10 років тому

    this was one of the best videos on this channel, i loved it

  • @Dinoguy1000
    @Dinoguy1000 10 років тому +28

    This makes me think of the error-checking header used in PNG files, really a quite clever piece of work that I'd love to see a video on. =)

  • @joeserneem853
    @joeserneem853 10 років тому +16

    I really like Tom Scott's way of explaining.

  • @lexbailey
    @lexbailey 10 років тому

    This is one of the best computerphile videos. This is the sort of topic explained at the right level to be interesting to most people who (I suspect) subscribe here. Good work!

  • @Niki_0001
    @Niki_0001 10 років тому +7

    It's always interesting to listen to someone who's that passionate, or at least sounds passionate. Even if you don't care about the subject at hand, it somehow becomes interesting when person speaking is passionate about it!

  • @GunjanBagayatkar
    @GunjanBagayatkar 10 років тому +6

    Very interesting & informative video.
    Explained in detail and still very easy to understand.
    Thanks for uploading.
    Keep up the good work guys...

  • @LIES666
    @LIES666 10 років тому +1

    It's always nice when you're watching one of Brady's channels and someone from a completely unrelated channel you subscribe to turns up.

  • @lcdvasrm
    @lcdvasrm 8 років тому +239

    cameraman, please take a seat

  • @lpatrasco
    @lpatrasco 5 років тому +9

    Such an incredible enthusiasm just for UTF-8! I’d like to hear you speaking about quantum entanglement 🥴

  • @RedPandad
    @RedPandad 5 років тому +11

    For the people wanting to know where this vid was taken it in a cafe called the booking office in St Pancras station I know because I have been there once it's pretty popular

  • @TheBreadCatt
    @TheBreadCatt 10 років тому +1

    If you could do more with Tom Scott that would be amazing. I love his videos and these videos, so combining them is just awesome!

  • @ronanderson1023
    @ronanderson1023 9 років тому +2

    Thank you so much for sharing so much detailed information!
    I always thought of bits and bytes to be something i'll never be interester in, but frankly, this stuff is getting really interesting the more you into it.
    Greetings and all the best!

  • @BGroothedde
    @BGroothedde 10 років тому

    Man... I love these videos, I love all the videos by you.

  • @Carutsu
    @Carutsu 10 років тому

    UTF has to be one o the most beautiful solutions I´ve ever seen. Loved it since I translated the unicode page.

  • @policello1980
    @policello1980 4 роки тому

    Great video, I really like the close-discussion format !

  • @megaelliott
    @megaelliott 10 років тому +218

    UTF-8 is love, UTF-8 is life.

  • @CBaggers
    @CBaggers 10 років тому +1

    Love this guy's passion, great video

  • @fabioampe
    @fabioampe 10 років тому

    You talk with so much passion about the subject. I think that's really beautifull. I bet Even someone who doesn't understand a sh** about computers will know how important it was.

  • @arzenn_
    @arzenn_ 7 років тому +22

    I learn more here than my software lessons

  • @bulman07
    @bulman07 8 років тому +203

    Was this filmed in the St Pancras Hotel?

    • @Computerphile
      @Computerphile  8 років тому +148

      Yep

    • @Computerphile
      @Computerphile  7 років тому +94

      ***** actually this is just their public bar, our filming location fell through and they were kind enough to let us film there. Anyone can go in >Sean

  • @veloxsouth
    @veloxsouth 10 років тому

    This is the first computerphile video I didn't hate. Well done.

  • @dospy1
    @dospy1 10 років тому

    i love this guy's enthusiasm. great video

  • @aatheus
    @aatheus 10 років тому

    That is actually a very good explanation of UTF-8! I had wondered how the continuation bytes worked for a long time.

  • @plutoniumseller
    @plutoniumseller 10 років тому

    I have been waiting for something on Unicode/UTF-8. THANK YOU, COMPUTERPHILE!

  • @freeman1884
    @freeman1884 4 роки тому

    Patiently watched twice and understood it very well, thanks!

  • @iabervon
    @iabervon 10 років тому +2

    Another tiny correction: at 1:53, he says a space is all zeros; actually, a space is 0100000 = 32 = 0x20. As he mentions later, all zeros is "end of string".

  • @Cathal1992edition
    @Cathal1992edition 9 років тому +73

    Love the enthusiasm! :)

  • @_wouter52
    @_wouter52 10 років тому

    This was great! I like this guy and the episodes become better and better!

  • @eduardobcastro14
    @eduardobcastro14 2 роки тому +1

    These videos are great contributions to human knowledge

  • @ButzPunk
    @ButzPunk 10 років тому +4

    Finally, someone who loves UTF-8 and Unicode as much as me!

  • @endermannull4420
    @endermannull4420 Рік тому +1

    bingeing computerphile on halloween is a mood

  • @KeianhhnaieK
    @KeianhhnaieK Рік тому +1

    Nothing short of amazing.

  • @blindshiva2826
    @blindshiva2826 5 років тому +10

    Thanks for the history lesson. It is always interesting to remember how we got to where we are today.

  • @cmroosen
    @cmroosen 7 місяців тому

    Great explanation, love his enthusiasm

  • @BorealSelfReliance
    @BorealSelfReliance 10 років тому

    Great Vid! one of my most fave vids from this channel.

  • @svartholstjornuson6215
    @svartholstjornuson6215 Рік тому +5

    5:39: Zoom out. Pan right.

  • @MixedTacticsGamer
    @MixedTacticsGamer 10 років тому

    More of this guy please! He's awesome, really great speaker!

  • @xway2
    @xway2 10 років тому

    This guy's personal channel is in the description. I just checked it out and it's really amazing. You should too.

  • @raditz2488
    @raditz2488 5 років тому

    In depth explanation. He also shares a cool way to remember what A's and a's codepoints are.

  • @puncheex2
    @puncheex2 10 років тому +2

    historical note: Before ASCII there was 5 bit teletype code (upper case only), binary coded decimal (BCD), which was a 6 bit code, and extended BCD interchange code (EBCDIC), an 8 bit code. BCD and EBCDIC were IBM standards adopted by the industry. All used the "trick" of having the letters in collating order; it was the basis for punch card computing.

  • @ChrisDuncanCodeCow
    @ChrisDuncanCodeCow 10 років тому +1

    Thanks for this! Character encoding always confused me; this video explained UTF pretty well to me.

  • @DarrylCollins
    @DarrylCollins 10 років тому +55

    Very interesting video explainer. I learnt something new today! (Particularly like the crash zoom at 5:42 to see girl in red pants!)

  • @ltericdavis2237
    @ltericdavis2237 10 років тому

    Finally I get an explanation! I've been wondering about this.

  • @ZestyCrunchy
    @ZestyCrunchy 10 років тому +1

    I've never seen someone that passionate about encoding characters.

  • @coreyaudet8574
    @coreyaudet8574 4 роки тому +1

    This schooled me. Great information. Thank you! I just subbed.

  • @sonodrome
    @sonodrome 10 років тому

    Hey Tom! Fancy seeing you here :) Great to see you on ye olde Computerphile.
    Maybe catch you at the next TDC! Loving the video empire Brady, thanks for bringing us a slice of Tom - Jim.

  • @jlamothe2
    @jlamothe2 4 роки тому +36

    Another advantage of UTF-8 that wasn't mentioned is that if you want to sort strings by Unicode value, you can just treat it as though each byte were a separate character, and it'll just work.
    The only real downside to UTF-8 is that you can't seek out a character at a specific index without walking the entire string character by character.

  • @marty34534
    @marty34534 10 років тому +3

    You explained that so clearly, well done! I agree its brilliant

  • @Jessassin
    @Jessassin 10 років тому +2

    This is the sort if thing I subbed for. Thank you :)

  • @kelvinmburu2698
    @kelvinmburu2698 8 місяців тому

    Beautiful explanation, Thank you

  • @glitchsmasher
    @glitchsmasher 8 років тому +68

    All 0s in ASCII is Nul. 32 (01 00000) is Space.

  • @AndreasTyrosvoutis
    @AndreasTyrosvoutis 10 років тому

    Fantastic explanation, excellent speaker.

  • @AndersGustafsson87
    @AndersGustafsson87 10 років тому

    Brady, please bring this guy on computerphile many more times! and nice restaurant btw :)

  • @harrytaller9403
    @harrytaller9403 6 років тому

    thanx Computerphile for explaining utf8 , user tried to understand from wiki but could not do it, u make everything simple

  • @ashfaqjuna
    @ashfaqjuna 4 місяці тому

    So well explained!

  • @ElectricFury
    @ElectricFury 7 років тому +59

    homework is to watch this

  • @lambar0
    @lambar0 Рік тому +1

    Simply Elegant … clear explanation

  • @mathiasbynens
    @mathiasbynens 10 років тому +2

    In practice, you’ll never really encounter UTF-8 byte sequences with 4 or 5 continuation bytes. In November 2003, UTF-8 was restricted by RFC 3629 to end at U+10FFFF, in order to match the constraints of the UTF-16 character encoding. This removed all 5- and 6-byte sequences, and about half of the 4-byte sequences, but it’s still enough to represent every possible Unicode symbol ever.

  • @hyto
    @hyto 10 років тому

    Awesome video!

  • @jasonarmani2056
    @jasonarmani2056 10 років тому

    I really like this guy. I'd love to see him on more computerphile videos :)

  • @clairevicidomini3199
    @clairevicidomini3199 6 років тому

    gotta love the passion of this guy :)

  • @DamoonBlu
    @DamoonBlu Рік тому

    I don't even want to think about the stress of allocating every symbol with a number, but great video!

  • @theroztube
    @theroztube 10 років тому +1

    perfect explanation! Thanks for that.

  • @resonance2001
    @resonance2001 10 років тому +2

    I like UTF-8 too. It's very useful. I quite like UTF-16 for encoding foreign words in RAM. I wrote a special text editor for writing in different languages and I found UTF-8 to be perfect for saving the text files.