Boeing Monitoring How 777-9 Thrust-Link Issues Will Affect Service Entry
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Boeing has been continuing to analyze an engine component problem experienced by its 777X test planes, which could jeopardize the jet's entry into service next year. In August, the planemaker temporarily grounded its 777-9 test fleet after discovering broken thrust links on one of its 777-9 testbeds. Subsequent inspections of other aircraft found cracks in the same component. We explore this issue for today’s video…
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2037: Don't worry guys, the 777X is coming to commercial service in just 12 years
that's too generous
it's definitely 2059!
@@delta_cosmic 2063
Isn't it too long for waiting? 😢
It will be ready when Airbus introduces A450 Space Supersonic Super-jumbo.
It'll be ready when teleporting from New York to Sydney in 5 minutes becomes a reality.
Boeing should consider releasing the 777x as a build-up kit. With the first monthly issue comes the front landing gear and an a booklet signed by Orberg. By the time they'll have to send the engines they'll surely have had enough time to solve all the issues.
Collab with Ikea!
I wonder when Airbus will announce a new model? A321XLR is ready. A350F is on the way. Will it be a A350 NEO? A350-1100?
Very likely an a220-500... but that depends on when the plane becomes profitable
@@AJR-07A220 program is going to be scrapped. Only patents will be taken.
If it's supposed to be a direct 777X competitor, it'd have to be a new A350 variant, but so far Airbus has resisted temptation to increase the production capacity for the A350, as to avoid getting stuck with it once demand goes back to normal, so a new variant is unlikely.
A360
A350-2000 or A3502K
we are literally getting GTA VI before The first variant of the 777x even gets certified at this point.
we are getting gta 6 on PC before 777x enters service
@@ProAvgeek6328 No, it will into service in Q2 next year
@@planelover234 If everything goes according to plan which is unlikely
@@planelover234 Did you even watch the video??
@@ProAvgeek6328 it is going according to plan
787 took 7years, Original 777 took 6 years but a derivative is set to double that Original time next year
I can think of 2 reasons for these failures - the part was simply under designed or a sympathetic vibration is causing fatigue.
Either way given how long it is taking Boeing to sort out the engine anti-ice overheating issue on the MAX, this may take a long time to fix and more thousands of hours of testing to prove that the fix works.
I'm amazed at how patient 777 customers have been.
At this point they're not patient, they're just plain dumb.
@@jgnclvgmng5408 it's not, they just have no other options, with Boeing's issues Airbus order backlogs are getting longer and longer and Boeing's other planes too are being delayed by the FAA issues, you might as well just order and just wait and hope for the best
I hope they get it right.
I want to see a stronger Boeing , after all, that’s what made Airbus better right.
They make each other improve and get better.
Not a fan of the Max tho tbh
Imagine if McDonnell Douglas’s management leaves. Then Boeing will be back on track
boeings are already strong.asiana 214 taught us that.and that emirates flight.and baw 38
@@ZubairAhmed-ib6ve why is md getting blamed?for example,the 777 300er was made after the merger,but it has no issues
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z Since the merger, they are only focusing on profits and not flight safety. That's why Boeing employees are fed up and demanding changes to the new contract
@@ZubairAhmed-ib6ve boeing 777 300er made after merger.no fatalities in this plane are boeings fault
This is why they test, test, test before rushing into production.
Fun fact: Boeing did found out about the battery fire issue on 787 during testing…
Don’t asked me how it was certified for entry into commercial services…
Well it shouldn't take this long A321XLR had delays but this is ridiculous
😂😂😂😂
@tonamg53
Quid pro quo. Just like MCAS.
Yes but not 10 years into testing
Nickoliver knows when the certification will be completed. I don't...
@@patrickpeters2903 Him: "777x will enter in 2025 guys!!! Airbus's a321xlr had worse delays then boeing!!!!"
He too knows that there are no (further) delays.
😂🤣😅
The current fleet are all "test aircraft" and their sole purpose is to test and verify every component. Once the reason for the component failure is determined a fix will be put into place. Whilst a failure is unfortunate it is best they are found prior to being inservice. It has happened with all of the engine manufacturers, GE9X, Trent1000 and PW1100G. The failed component is relatively simple to understand and manufacture so maybe there is more to this failure than the component. Off the top of my head, a problem of resonance from the GE9X could be the cause.
Boeing Stirke - stop production of 777 line... so another thing to go through
Thrust link is not part of the engine component. It is part of the plane and it is designed by Boeing. GE got nothing to do with it other than the mounting point for the thrust link.
No this hasn’t happened with other type of aircraft with those engines you mentioned before
@@tonamg53 I never intimated that it was a part of the engine. The clue is in the word "thrust link". A component that links the engine to the airframe. My supposition that engine resonance "could be" a reason is valid.
Resonance is indeed a valid theory. The very first F-14 made crashed because of resonanant frequencies of its titanium hyd lines to fail during flight. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Boeing went to a steel link over the current titanium and just take the weight penalty.
For a company who had rock solid 737/757/767/777 aircraft, they have made a dog’s breakfast with R&D. They have shown how cost cutting is not the route to take in plane manufacturing and software should never replace a human pilot.
what about 747?727?787?every boeing plane is alright.each had their own issues but its fine now.
It breaks my heart to watch what has happened -- and is continuing to happen -- at Boeing.
Good news for consumers as Boeing is taking it easy and taking time instead of just pushing through. Not so good for the airlines however,
It’s probably good for airlines, too. A delayed plane is easier to schedule around than a sudden grounding of a bunch of planes already in service.
@@silmarian Depends. Mega carriers often lay their future plans out for the modernization of their fleet depending heavily on the manufacturers. So if let's say Boeing can't achieve it, airlines have to extend the lives of their existing fleet which of course are not as efficient as newer crafts.
Strange they didn't see this a long time ago.
Cover for something far more serious?
Boeing was ready to cover up again
@@kahhowong3417 Yes. A leaking tire.
@@AnotherPointOfView944 You are metaphorically referring to its pressurised carbon composite fibre hull?
This finding is the entire reason flight testing is done. Is it a design or materials issue? Don't know but you can bet it's a high priority to get it solved quickly and resume the flight test program.
Hence the reason it’s called test flights. Things will be found and engineered in ways to eliminate so concerns before heading off to airlines.
If Boeing's top management had really focused on safety instead of profit and shareholders'happiness, these issues probably wouldn't have ever existed...
This series is getting better than The Bold and The Beautiful
The 777X is like GTA6
It keeps getting delayed and probably never coming out in the next 5 years
Gta6 is coming before this
As a Boeing fan, that’s a great thing. That’s why testing is for .
Idiot.
Boeing.. from being the best.. has become a meme!
Which will come into service first 737max-7 or 777x?
No.
777-Max7 :kappa:
MAX-7 and MAX-10 will be in service first
Er.. at this rate none of them.
I would say late 2026 or early 2027 !! However, I feel that Boeing commercial planes heading towards similar direction like McDonnell Douglas in mid 90's !!
The management of airlines who still give orders to Boeing for such aircrafts should get world's most optimistic person award while Boeing managment should get Oscar award for best actor!!
Boeing is likely to just be giving out heavy discounts to keep them happy… if you’re an airline that wants new aircraft in 5+ years time, and Boeing is giving you a big discount. It’s a good deal, most airlines don’t want the aircraft straight away anyway
Buy a 777X and have Boeing pay for operating an A380 or A340 until the 777X is finally delivered with a massive discount.
Sounds like a good investment.
“Another Boeing bites the Dust!”
more than 13000 boeing planes arrive safely everyday.the reason no one reports....imagine 5 different newspapers flooding google with a onslaught of more than 65000 articles....evryday!
This sounds like a GE problem, not a Boeing design problem. Time for GE to get it fixed if they want to compete.
I can't believe that GE has nothing to do with this. They only develop the engine how it's used it's Boeing's problem.
How is a component manufactured by Boeing a GE problem?
@@MrSchwabentier Because Spirit is not in this loop!
The thrust link is a Boeing design, and has nothing to do with GE.
What are my thoughts about this issue?
I think we all can agree that Boeing f**ked up
sad that 777x is my fav aircraft...
Stopping kids from saying first
All the airlines CEOs who have ordered this aircraft are currently sitting at their desks with their heads in their hands
nah at this point they're getting the aircraft practically for free. There is usual a compensation in the contract for each and every delay
a350 wont be until 2031 if you order now.777 x better and earlier
@@MrSchwabentier Good for Boeing because they're drowning in money.
I am wondering why Boeing is wearing this issue and not the engine manufacturer, GE. Sure, Boeing advises and chooses [with customers] the engine required, but they don't make them.
Is this a Boeing component or engine manufacture component?
Boeing
If Boeing can learn the lessons from this project and engineer the plane to the best standard, the 777X could become as much of a long lasting workhorse to the wide body market as the 737 prior to the max became to the narrow body market. One issue now though is that one of the parts in question is made with titanium which is being held back by Russia from Western markets as a counter to sanctions. Making it slightly harder to come by.
A "thrust link" ? I think they mean "engine mount" !
Imagine if a thrust linkage snapped mid flight 💀
same thing happened with 747,but the thrust linkage never broke mid flight.so boeing will fix it.
Dual redundant. So there's that.
Well I'd rather they sort out all the issues now than rush it into production and suffer terrible consequences like what happened with the Max. About time Boeing put safety over profits like they used to in the past.
Emirates should have ordered the A350-1000. They will regret ordering more 777-9 😂
ah well, these things happen 😊
all will be well in the end
777 is more than double capacity than the 737max they better not fuck it up
Emirates, Qatar Airways and Lufthansa are delighted about all that....
Of course this part was designed by Boeing and not GE, what was the chances of it failing?. (satire)
Boeing knows this is to big. They need an a330
or even better a 111
they should continue producing the 747-8 as a temporary replacement before it enters service in 2030 the delays are just getting longer
The 747 class has been out of production for years and the production line replaced by the 787 line.
The return of the 747 would be amazing but 4 engines aren't the future or efficient anymore.
@@ronaldcharan2705 yes but it is the only plane that has the same capacity as the 777x and can be filled up more easily compared to the a380
Just throw some more super glue on it.
This is not a big issue. Flight testing is used to identify these sorts of problems. Let the qualified engineers do the job of improving performance of the thrust link component.
The joke aircraft from a joke company. If a test aircraft that has only flown a few times is already developing cracks in a crucial component, and who cares that it has a failsafe, who can trust this junk? Emirates should be proud of their choice and purchases, which they will see in another 5 to 10 years. When it launches it will be like the Starliner.
How the mighty fall... Way to go Boeing!
1. 737 max crash disaster
2. quality issues of 777x, 737 max and 787
3. exploding 737 max door
4. whistle blowers killed or harassed
5. employees on strike
6. ceos getting all of the money
7. profits over safety
8. 777x, 737 max 7 and 10 delays (3-5+ years)
9. merging with mcdonnell douglas
10. bean counters as management
it all adds up.
'joke aircraft' the 777 with its 18 year fatality free record is now 'a unsafe joke aircraft'
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z Duh... 777x is not 777. Isn't it?
777x is a 777.
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z Oh boy... Then they should ground all 777s from service immediately because they'll have cracks on crucial parts too no?
What's wrong about flying engines?
I help manufacture that plane, maybe they should try stainless steel it may be heavier but work better in the long run.
I wouldn't recommend stainless - it's very prone to fatigue cracking.
Carbon steel is much better.
@@gregculverwell Titanium alloy is far better.
Another delay of 10 years?
You think they will be able to sort out things out THAT quick?
@@hamabox5190 ha ha , They have the baseline which is the original 772 or 773, why can't they get it right faster
Neah, only 9 years.
Any connection to recent reports about substandard Chinese-made titanium parts entering the aviation supply chains, after Russian suppliers were sanctioned? I read that France has tried to find a way to allow Russian titanium parts into the country.
these planes were built long before that
So the engines are so powerful it's ripping itself off from the aircraft mounting?
yes.boeing has underestimated the power of the GE.
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z how would they do that when the predecessor was literally more powerful?
GE9X are heavier and larger than GE90, but not more powerful.
Insufficient metallurgical quality control and poor metrological handling.. resulting in an inferior product composition and failure of robustness in design..
Why all the drama, finding and fixing is all part of the development/testing process.
Idiot
Is anyone surprised?
Those links are not linked to doors during flight ...
a350 is also having engine problems which aren't getting covered nearly as much by the media
Please tell us when where and what media is covering it. Since you know..
You think there's some kind of conspiracy? Seems to me like there's enough coverage. You want day-time TV to be reporting about it as well?
Why does an engine need to transfer thrust into the airframe?
The engines are pulling the aircraft through the air. If they weren't attached firmly to the airframe, they would rip loose and the pkane would crash.
@@GH-oi2jf I get that, but that's about structural attachment, not "thrust transfer"? What does the airframe need to leverage any of the engine thrust?
@@wojomojowhat you’re describing is exactly thrust transfer.
@@MrSchwabentier Ah ok, not a mechanical engineer and not familiar with the terminology! I read the term as engine thrust (movement of air) is transferred to the airframe for maybe like a Harrier Jet thing, or APU or something, but obviously that makes no sense, hence my confusion. My bad.
Lame Boeing needs support!
Felt like the description of a thrust-link was half an explanation. The thrust-link transfers thrust by the engines to the airframe to do what purpose?
Cause the aircraft to fly is my thought.
And you are.... 9 years old?
Airbus: Successfully hanging engines since 1974..
boeing has also been succesfullly hanging engines.and did you forget how the engines fell of during flgiht 587?
@AbdullahNajib-b9z of american airlines flight 587
"The NTSB report explained that the overuse of the rudder mechanism by the captain caused the plane's vertical stabilizer (tail fin) and both engines to detach from the plane; an unlikely scenario. Without the vertical stabilizer, the plane spiraled out of control" - does not apply
@@jasonatkins1467 yes.but the faa also found that the rudder to fuesalage joint was way too weak.he did this same thing in a 727,but nothing bad happened.
@@jasonatkins1467 the engines fell of because airbuses cannot tolerate more than 1.00000000000001 g
I'm very sure that the 777X will be Certified in 2025.
Wishful thinking
@@Aviation_of_Houston copium thinking
@@Aviation_of_Houston copium thinking
Of course it will. Everyone can be 100% sure of that. 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
boeing.... boing boing boing....
😔🙉
Think Boeing going downhill over the years 😮😮😮
Are all the Boeing engineering staff still in kindergarden - You need brains not smelly diapers....
In manufacturing- especially American manufacturing management often overrides engineers and quality inspectors.
@@stevemcgowen 777 18 year fatality free record....how did they do that?
@@AbdullahNajib-b9zwhile not the 777's fault there were several fatal events. Malaysia lost 2 of them. Asiana in San Francisco.
I'm saying that if boeing had issues,we would see crashes everyday
This is what flight testing is for. For God's sake get off Boeing's back and let them make this plane! It's like they never found anything wrong with any of their other planes during testing for God's sake. Don't be ridiculous and stupid to think that.
Idiot
That problem can be easily modified to meet requirements.
Really ? it is supposed to be designed to meet requirements
Could this be due to dubious titanium parts scandal we had few months back
that could also mean airbus planes have this as well...
no, because these planes were built years ago
@@MrSchwabentier what planes are 'these'
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z "these" are the four testplanes affected by the component failure.
2027
could be .still earlier than a350 if you order now.
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z 2027 will be the first 777x. If you order an A30, at least you know you get an airplane, and most importantly, it will fly without breaking apart
bla bla bla...nohing new.
… about Boeing, corruption and flaws.
@@peterebel7899 No, I meant this "news" article. Boeing has been parading that 777x since pre-covid days.
There is nothing newsworthy in this article.
Parts from China probably.
this is probably not a chinese part.
Boeing parts, worse than chinese ones.
Well guess what?spirit aerosystems supplies airbus as well,meaning that airbus gets bad parts as well!
Made in USA!
Just cancel the orders and buy Airbus. It’s going to get to the point companies won’t be able to get insurance if they use Boeing aircraft.
Id buy boeing.i just like the 777 too much.
You gotta understand that Airbus can't supply all the commercial aircraft for the entire world. While competitors , airbus and boeing really need each other.
So it’s a engine (GE) issue not a Boeing issue
no, because the part is manufactured by Boeing
Still 🤔 wonder,what actually they want...hmmmm
First to comment 😊
Boeing is cursed! lol!
curded because over 13000 arrive safely everyday?maybe it is a curse-safety curse🤣
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z what is curded?
Spelling mistake.curded is cursed