Got my 380s about a month ago. I'm really pleased with it as my first manual transmission car. Local dealership gave me a 100k mile powertrain warranty and great interest rate, so I chose it over the Civic SI.
Every observation you make seems to echo my internal monologue. You just make points that other reviewers either don't notice or don't feel are worth mentioning, but I'm glad you include them.
380 base doesn't have wireless carplay, by the way. It also doesn't have keyless entry. What it has is adaptive suspension, 19-inch alloy wheels, and summer tires.
In Canada you have to get at least the Autobahn trim, to get a manual which forces you to also get the 380 package. You can’t even get a base model with a manual because you’re forced to get DCC, wheels, black roof as well. Maybe that’s what he’s referring to.
Much needed. I have a 24 Si, and I liked your review watching it after the fact, very objective. I was wondering to get a 24 GTI 380s, with this being the last manual with DCC and the extra power. Any suggestions?
That final thoughts section is so true! I have a MK7.5 DSG, and I love it! But I always wished I had the 6sp manual. Nevertheless I got a manual Miata as my 2nd car :D
I wanted a manual GTI when I went into the dealer, but they didn’t have any. I should have been patient and waiting, but I got the DSG. I’m coming from an ND Miata and am thinking about getting another one once my GTI is paid off! Amazing cars!
Love my ‘23 GTI 40th anniversary edition. It’s my 4th GTI in a row. And favorite by far. Manual of course. Glad there is a 380’edition with a manual. Sad that’s going to be it : (. The haptic buttons on the steering wheel and lack of physical buttons everywhere else doesn’t bother me one bit I’m totally used to it and it makes the interior look cleaner. Not worried about reliability. My mk7.5 went 6 yrs / 60K with out a single issue (just a creaky sunroof in the cold). Otherwise it was flawless. Hoping this one will be too. I’m over a year in w/9K mi and no issues so far. As an aside I think he is spot on about VW cutting the manual early. Profit is always the idea but if you start to lose the plot (in this case excitement about your brand) then ppl will lose interest and your cars will just become appliances. Like Mitsubishi for example. I loved the Evo. It was the only other car besides a VW I’d have wanted. Eclipses were cool too. When I thought Mitsubishi those are the vehicles that came to mind. Now they only make super generic boring cars and I wouldn’t even consider them when buying a new car. I hope VW doesn’t let this happen.
I have a Mk 7 GTI with a manual transmission, and I enjoy it for all the reasons you note in your review. It's just fun, and I get a kick out of shifting my own gears. I'm definitely hanging onto that car for the long term. Since it's not my daily driver any more, I spoil it with ethanol free fuel too.
A few years back I was looking to buy a used GTI and also looked at Audi S3's. When I pulled the CarFax history reports (Some 10 model years back) of both manufacturers and several dozen cars, I was amazed that most of these cars had water pump replacements,sometimes 3 in their ownership. It’s odd to hear it’s still going on. I mean as a Company wouldn’t you nix that vendor after a few years of replacements and implement a better reliable vendor? 🤷♂️
Yup, I have a 2013 GTI Wolfburg edition, and yeah, I had to replace the water pump. Wasn't bad, just had to add about a cup or 2 of collant every 2 months or so. I had it replaced under warranty.
I did end up getting a 380 manual, for the price and the hatch, it was a really decent choice in Canada (I would have loved to get a GR Corolla, but they are $50,000 in Canada before the dealers do their nonsense. The manual makes the GTI such a fun car even in a brutal Toronto commute, gives me something to do, and I like the control. The manual in the GTI is not as good as the Hondas, but honestly it is still pretty excellent compared to BMW ones, and matches the car's personality which is more rounded off than the Hondas anyway. TBH I wish the Hondas were smaller since the SI felt too big when test-driving them.
From my understanding, VW horsepower numbers are at the wheels. So yeah, while other manufacturers advertise HP at the crank, VW is at the wheels. So yeah, a 240hp GTI feels like a 270 hp Honda or Toyota.
Great video, and interesting thought. I happen to agree that VW has lost the plot, with reliability, maintenance costs and fun to drive nature. It was painful to watch you try to shift gears with that bucket you have in the cupholder though. So much contortions :)
Looks like a decent option in as you say what is a very small pool of manuals now. The name had me thinking they'd gone out with a 380hp bang! Does it have much rev hang?
Rev hang isn’t bad. You can do a very easy and free mod to remove the clutch delay valve and it makes it much better. Add a weighted shift knob (the stock one is plastic and sucks IMO) and maybe a clutch stop, and the shifting experience is actually quite good.
FL5 Type R owner here, plus previous Golf R and GTI owner. It kinda sucks that they couldn’t get the infotainment/haptic annoyances figured out before they dropped the third pedal. The GTI is a great car, and in some ways a better option than the Golf R. (Price, runs on regular fuel while still making 240+ HP, arguably more fun/raw to drive). The only big downside this car has is that VWs aren’t known for their reliability. As good as the car is, and as reliable as the MQB platform and the E888 engine has become, the car will not hold it’s value quite the same as something like a Type R or even the Golf R does. So if you’re looking to buy one, consider a lightly used one or try to get it under MSRP so you’re not out much if you don’t decide to keep it for a very long time.
The MK8 GTI consistently makes it's rated crank HP at the wheels on 87 octane, which is really impressive. Mine with a "stage 1" 93 octane tune and no other changes makes around 300 wheel hp and got almost 40 mpg.
How do you obtain these cars to drive around all day? My local dealership will barely let me even sit in a car. They act like its a 1937 Bugatti Atlantic.I
I got the connection through working at one of the dealerships in-town, filming reviews of friends cars, showing them to my boss and asking if I could do the same with a lot car. I can’t exactly drive them around all day but I am lucky enough to have some nice filming spots nearby so I typically put on 35-40 miles (more or less depending on the b-roll).
Having owned manual cars for almost 25 years, and a 2017 MK7 GTI with the DSG... My next track/autox car will be either a DSG or EV. Manuals are great fun for driving around, more so with N/A engines. But I found I enjoyed the DSG far more for autox because of the shorter gearing, less risk of catastrophic failure, and something rarely talked about... That extra bit of distraction required to operate 3 pedals and a lever when pushing a car up to 10/10ths. I don't lament the loss of a manual in VAG products because its been such an afterthought compared to their dual clutch and on more pedestrian chassis. If it were Porsche sportscars, BRZ's or Miata's, that would be a very different story.
I have a 23 gti with a manual.. it will be my last vw because of the lack of a manual.. I dont give a damn how good or how fast the automatic is. Id rather walk than have a fun car with an automatic. sadly I will have very few options going forward... Thankfully Honda (and Acura) still make them.. Once my car is off warranty it may be gone.
@@vr6glsthis is subjective. DSG is still an automatic - for me, most of the fun is the clutch engagement and having that control. So, why don’t you respect others’ opinions and skip the “clever” (stupid) comment.
@@tomrakusan1179 So that was just a long winded way of saying “No, I have never driven a DSG car and my prejudice against them is solely based on ignorance”. Got it. 👍🏾
I've had my 380 since January and put around 6K miles on it. I've been strongly considering parting ways with it for a WRX. Sure, the tech is "cool" but just because you can do something doesn't always mean you should. The MK7 really did strike the perfect balance with tech. The MK8 is leagues beyond in the driving department, but it's such a shame they ditched the manual handbrake and physical climate controls.
It's odd how VW made a pretty good car into a great one that's much more polarizing... just because they wanted to save some money on controls (or make it look futuristic?). I'd say ditching it for a WRX could be a good move if you live in a northern climate and want a different personality from your car but if you're trying to avoid bad tech altogether, I might recommend checking out the Civic SI unless you're wanting to mod it.
The tech in WRX is a decade behind. Not to mention horrid fuel economy. Interior is cheap and rattles even when new. Stick with your GTI, don't be stupid.
I’ve had my 380 SE since March, and also have about 6500 miles. I don’t think I’ve ever triggered the heated steering wheel inadvertently. The haptic volume slider on the steering wheel is so easy to use because it’s right under your thumb, and you can tap or swipe it for larger changes in volume, without looking at all - and you couldn’t really do the “swipe” on the older version with a physical button. I just don’t get the concerns with the climate controls being a tap away and then being on a screen; I very rarely want to adjust fan speed or flow direction when I’m on the move, it’s automatic and effective, IMO. If I want to adjust anything it’s moving temp up or down a degree or two, but even that’s not that often. I set it at 74 in summer and 72 in winter and I’m good to go most of the time. But a single tap, or a swipe on the slider just isn’t a big deal to me. Did I like the HVAC co trips on my old GTI (the fully auto setup)? Yes; is this hard to live with? Not at all. Looks great too, IMO - a clean, sleek cabin. We also bought a 24 DSG Golf R, 2 months earlier, which now has 9K miles. Neither has had any issues except for two mild to moderate creaking noises that the GTI cabin occasionally makes, but I haven’t tried to tackle those yet, either personally or through the dealer. The R has none. We may pick up an 8.5 GTI, or Golf R, in a couple of years and then hope they all last a very long time. The Subaru is such a dinosaur compared to the Golf, especially visually; I wouldn’t make that switch if I was literally paid to do so.
Poor engineering, weak components, bad quality control = unreliable products. Does VW know all this? Of course they do and they release those products for sale anyhow. So my money won't be spent on any of their many vehicles. Yes, I know that doesn't keep their executives up at night; but, one does what one can in life. BTW, great hair!
Thanks! I think the GTI has been doing better than a lot of other VW products (namely the Jetta 1.5L, Taos, and Atlas), so I have hopes that people will be able to keep these on the road for awhile even if they run into some coolant leaks and tech glitches.
Please explain the poor engineering. I would really like to know your argument on that because there isn’t another 4cyl-T vehicle out there that is more potent when tuned, than the EA888 engine. So please explain. I’ll wait.
@@JacesOwnWorld I couldn't care less how powerful an engine is or how fast it is on the track or how quickly it can sprint from light to light on public roads. High quality engineering and construction translate into reliability and durability. Since these directly determine the economic viability of my cars, they and safety are the major determinants of my purchases. VW products from Bentley and VW Phaetons to whatever is at the bottom (Polos?) have not distinguished themselves in either reliability or longevity. Some other German brands are little better, if at all. They also tend to be unusually difficult to repair, another hallmark of poor design.
@@JacesOwnWorld I don’t think you’re ever going to get a satisfactory answer from this guy. They clearly saw the title of the video, assumed it was going to be a negative review without actually watching, and immediately ran to the comments to post a rant with unsubstantiated claims. Meanwhile the review was actually positive (Great job btw, Tyler), and the Mk8 & Mk7 GTIs continue to be relatively reliable, fun little cars :)
Realstick : the Hyundai i30 N has been demolishing the Golf in performance, build quality, reliability, looks, boot space, pricewise and by pure joy factor since 2017 already.
No I30N in the states, just the Elantra N! The GTI has an entirely different purpose than that car. Could be a fun mashup comparison but the Hyundai would handily best the GTI in handling and take an edge in straightline speed. If it’s touching a track, I’d go EN. The GTI 380 would easily win in the comfort/feature department (even in the base trim), it’s more fuel efficient and takes a lower octane in the US while still being playful on a backroad. To each their own.
I’m very happy with my 2024 GTI manual. 12,000 km’s on it so far. My friend has a 2016 GTI with over 200,000 km’s on it now, and no issues.
They're pretty reliable if you keep up the maintenance as intended.
Wow I have a 2023 and only put 5,000 km's on it.
@@r3games1985
I’m retired.
So have just over 3,000
Got my 380s about a month ago. I'm really pleased with it as my first manual transmission car. Local dealership gave me a 100k mile powertrain warranty and great interest rate, so I chose it over the Civic SI.
What’s a great interest rate? I don’t think I’ve seen any special financing for GTI’s better than 3.9% for 60 months.
No special financing with the Civic means you're probably getting a 7% + rate with a-tier credit :(
Congrats!
Umm t thought they all be comes with 100k warranty
@@DM72513 I got 4.9% at 60 months. Here in Miami, other places offered 8 or 9%
Every observation you make seems to echo my internal monologue. You just make points that other reviewers either don't notice or don't feel are worth mentioning, but I'm glad you include them.
Happy to hear that, thank you for watching.
380 base doesn't have wireless carplay, by the way. It also doesn't have keyless entry. What it has is adaptive suspension, 19-inch alloy wheels, and summer tires.
In Canada you have to get at least the Autobahn trim, to get a manual which forces you to also get the 380 package. You can’t even get a base model with a manual because you’re forced to get DCC, wheels, black roof as well. Maybe that’s what he’s referring to.
I just bought the car. You're right about all of this.
I got a wireless dongle.
I have a MK 7, too. They are the same car, but completely different
@@mustardketchup awesome, 👏. BTW, I ended up getting one too. 380 6 MT. Cheers.
@@asdpoi121 Congrats on your new car 🎉🎉 I got the 380 too. I'm very impressed with it so far.
Yep. I got the 2023 base version brand new off the truck for $36.000 ca all in. Smoken deal and the car can't be beat at that price.
You have some pretty good videos man.
Thanks!
The GTI does it all. Perfect daily if you don’t really use a trunk. Happy to own the 380.
Why? Is the trunk space small? I thought 20 cu ft was more than good.
@@janoycresnova9156 it is. Some just need more. I don’t
Much needed. I have a 24 Si, and I liked your review watching it after the fact, very objective. I was wondering to get a 24 GTI 380s, with this being the last manual with DCC and the extra power. Any suggestions?
That final thoughts section is so true! I have a MK7.5 DSG, and I love it! But I always wished I had the 6sp manual. Nevertheless I got a manual Miata as my 2nd car :D
The holy two car solution.
I wanted a manual GTI when I went into the dealer, but they didn’t have any. I should have been patient and waiting, but I got the DSG. I’m coming from an ND Miata and am thinking about getting another one once my GTI is paid off! Amazing cars!
Love my ‘23 GTI 40th anniversary edition. It’s my 4th GTI in a row. And favorite by far. Manual of course. Glad there is a 380’edition with a manual. Sad that’s going to be it : (. The haptic buttons on the steering wheel and lack of physical buttons everywhere else doesn’t bother me one bit I’m totally used to it and it makes the interior look cleaner. Not worried about reliability. My mk7.5 went 6 yrs / 60K with out a single issue (just a creaky sunroof in the cold). Otherwise it was flawless. Hoping this one will be too. I’m over a year in w/9K mi and no issues so far.
As an aside I think he is spot on about VW cutting the manual early. Profit is always the idea but if you start to lose the plot (in this case excitement about your brand) then ppl will lose interest and your cars will just become appliances. Like Mitsubishi for example. I loved the Evo. It was the only other car besides a VW I’d have wanted. Eclipses were cool too. When I thought Mitsubishi those are the vehicles that came to mind. Now they only make super generic boring cars and I wouldn’t even consider them when buying a new car. I hope VW doesn’t let this happen.
I have a Mk 7 GTI with a manual transmission, and I enjoy it for all the reasons you note in your review. It's just fun, and I get a kick out of shifting my own gears. I'm definitely hanging onto that car for the long term. Since it's not my daily driver any more, I spoil it with ethanol free fuel too.
A few years back I was looking to buy a used GTI and also looked at Audi S3's. When I pulled the CarFax history reports (Some 10 model years back) of both manufacturers and several dozen cars, I was amazed that most of these cars had water pump replacements,sometimes 3 in their ownership. It’s odd to hear it’s still going on. I mean as a Company wouldn’t you nix that vendor after a few years of replacements and implement a better reliable vendor? 🤷♂️
There's even a class action lawsuit over it
No clue why that hasn't been addressed either. It's been a common complaint for what feels like over a decade. At least we all know about it now!
Yup, I have a 2013 GTI Wolfburg edition, and yeah, I had to replace the water pump. Wasn't bad, just had to add about a cup or 2 of collant every 2 months or so. I had it replaced under warranty.
I did end up getting a 380 manual, for the price and the hatch, it was a really decent choice in Canada (I would have loved to get a GR Corolla, but they are $50,000 in Canada before the dealers do their nonsense. The manual makes the GTI such a fun car even in a brutal Toronto commute, gives me something to do, and I like the control. The manual in the GTI is not as good as the Hondas, but honestly it is still pretty excellent compared to BMW ones, and matches the car's personality which is more rounded off than the Hondas anyway. TBH I wish the Hondas were smaller since the SI felt too big when test-driving them.
From my understanding, VW horsepower numbers are at the wheels. So yeah, while other manufacturers advertise HP at the crank, VW is at the wheels. So yeah, a 240hp GTI feels like a 270 hp Honda or Toyota.
Do you do these reviews on the fly? You are very fluent and smooth.
Great video, and interesting thought. I happen to agree that VW has lost the plot, with reliability, maintenance costs and fun to drive nature. It was painful to watch you try to shift gears with that bucket you have in the cupholder though. So much contortions :)
Excellent video and a thumbs up on the hair. Great job
Looks like a decent option in as you say what is a very small pool of manuals now. The name had me thinking they'd gone out with a 380hp bang! Does it have much rev hang?
I can report that the rev hang is perfectly fine, it doesn't drop like a Miata but it's easy to work with.
Rev hang isn’t bad. You can do a very easy and free mod to remove the clutch delay valve and it makes it much better. Add a weighted shift knob (the stock one is plastic and sucks IMO) and maybe a clutch stop, and the shifting experience is actually quite good.
How much more backseat and cargo space is there vs gr corolla?
The backseat of the gr Corolla is non-existent, it's better in the GTI. And the GTI has more hatch space
I own a 2021 Oct Golf 8 GTI not one issue and it's a automatic prefer it over manual anytime❤
FL5 Type R owner here, plus previous Golf R and GTI owner. It kinda sucks that they couldn’t get the infotainment/haptic annoyances figured out before they dropped the third pedal. The GTI is a great car, and in some ways a better option than the Golf R. (Price, runs on regular fuel while still making 240+ HP, arguably more fun/raw to drive). The only big downside this car has is that VWs aren’t known for their reliability. As good as the car is, and as reliable as the MQB platform and the E888 engine has become, the car will not hold it’s value quite the same as something like a Type R or even the Golf R does. So if you’re looking to buy one, consider a lightly used one or try to get it under MSRP so you’re not out much if you don’t decide to keep it for a very long time.
The MK8 GTI consistently makes it's rated crank HP at the wheels on 87 octane, which is really impressive. Mine with a "stage 1" 93 octane tune and no other changes makes around 300 wheel hp and got almost 40 mpg.
It felt like 241 was conservative🤠
@@Realistick Bloomington represent BTW. If you want to review a tuned E85 MK8 you're more than welcome and I'm close.
Wasn't there a thing with the shift knob breaking off?
How do you obtain these cars to drive around all day? My local dealership will barely let me even sit in a car. They act like its a 1937 Bugatti Atlantic.I
I got the connection through working at one of the dealerships in-town, filming reviews of friends cars, showing them to my boss and asking if I could do the same with a lot car. I can’t exactly drive them around all day but I am lucky enough to have some nice filming spots nearby so I typically put on 35-40 miles (more or less depending on the b-roll).
A great car and fun to drive as long as it is during the warranty period.
That’s true for any car
Cars are way more reliable than they were in the 70s
I am glad this car continues to exist, but Ihad another car with semi-screen based HVAC controls and that was enough for me, never again!
Having owned manual cars for almost 25 years, and a 2017 MK7 GTI with the DSG... My next track/autox car will be either a DSG or EV.
Manuals are great fun for driving around, more so with N/A engines. But I found I enjoyed the DSG far more for autox because of the shorter gearing, less risk of catastrophic failure, and something rarely talked about... That extra bit of distraction required to operate 3 pedals and a lever when pushing a car up to 10/10ths.
I don't lament the loss of a manual in VAG products because its been such an afterthought compared to their dual clutch and on more pedestrian chassis. If it were Porsche sportscars, BRZ's or Miata's, that would be a very different story.
Oh damn...I thought it was gonna be a 380hp GTi.....
Imagine this powertrain in a civic si or integra
I like the wrx
I have a 23 gti with a manual.. it will be my last vw because of the lack of a manual.. I dont give a damn how good or how fast the automatic is. Id rather walk than have a fun car with an automatic. sadly I will have very few options going forward... Thankfully Honda (and Acura) still make them.. Once my car is off warranty it may be gone.
Tell me you have never owned a DSG vehicle, without telling me.
@@vr6glsthis is subjective. DSG is still an automatic - for me, most of the fun is the clutch engagement and having that control. So, why don’t you respect others’ opinions and skip the “clever” (stupid) comment.
@@tomrakusan1179 So that was just a long winded way of saying “No, I have never driven a DSG car and my prejudice against them is solely based on ignorance”. Got it. 👍🏾
Has anyone mentioned to you that you look and sound like Carlos Sainz Jr? 😂
VW complying with emissions? Oh, now, that’s funny.
😂I might use this joke in a future GTI video
As much as I'd enjoy driving a GTI again, I can't bring myself to buy another VAG product.
My 8 is even better than my 7
I have the automatic though
I've had my 380 since January and put around 6K miles on it. I've been strongly considering parting ways with it for a WRX. Sure, the tech is "cool" but just because you can do something doesn't always mean you should. The MK7 really did strike the perfect balance with tech. The MK8 is leagues beyond in the driving department, but it's such a shame they ditched the manual handbrake and physical climate controls.
You would be batshit crazy to switch to a VB WRX.
It's odd how VW made a pretty good car into a great one that's much more polarizing... just because they wanted to save some money on controls (or make it look futuristic?). I'd say ditching it for a WRX could be a good move if you live in a northern climate and want a different personality from your car but if you're trying to avoid bad tech altogether, I might recommend checking out the Civic SI unless you're wanting to mod it.
The tech in WRX is a decade behind. Not to mention horrid fuel economy. Interior is cheap and rattles even when new. Stick with your GTI, don't be stupid.
I went from a 2023 wrx to a 2024 gti. you will regret getting a wrx over the gti.
I’ve had my 380 SE since March, and also have about 6500 miles. I don’t think I’ve ever triggered the heated steering wheel inadvertently. The haptic volume slider on the steering wheel is so easy to use because it’s right under your thumb, and you can tap or swipe it for larger changes in volume, without looking at all - and you couldn’t really do the “swipe” on the older version with a physical button. I just don’t get the concerns with the climate controls being a tap away and then being on a screen; I very rarely want to adjust fan speed or flow direction when I’m on the move, it’s automatic and effective, IMO. If I want to adjust anything it’s moving temp up or down a degree or two, but even that’s not that often. I set it at 74 in summer and 72 in winter and I’m good to go most of the time. But a single tap, or a swipe on the slider just isn’t a big deal to me. Did I like the HVAC co trips on my old GTI (the fully auto setup)? Yes; is this hard to live with? Not at all. Looks great too, IMO - a clean, sleek cabin. We also bought a 24 DSG Golf R, 2 months earlier, which now has 9K miles. Neither has had any issues except for two mild to moderate creaking noises that the GTI cabin occasionally makes, but I haven’t tried to tackle those yet, either personally or through the dealer. The R has none. We may pick up an 8.5 GTI, or Golf R, in a couple of years and then hope they all last a very long time. The Subaru is such a dinosaur compared to the Golf, especially visually; I wouldn’t make that switch if I was literally paid to do so.
Poor engineering, weak components, bad quality control = unreliable products. Does VW know all this? Of course they do and they release those products for sale anyhow. So my money won't be spent on any of their many vehicles. Yes, I know that doesn't keep their executives up at night; but, one does what one can in life. BTW, great hair!
Thanks! I think the GTI has been doing better than a lot of other VW products (namely the Jetta 1.5L, Taos, and Atlas), so I have hopes that people will be able to keep these on the road for awhile even if they run into some coolant leaks and tech glitches.
@@Realistick "Hope springs eternal" and sometimes triumphs.....but rarely. Not a good economic philosophy.
Please explain the poor engineering. I would really like to know your argument on that because there isn’t another 4cyl-T vehicle out there that is more potent when tuned, than the EA888 engine. So please explain. I’ll wait.
@@JacesOwnWorld I couldn't care less how powerful an engine is or how fast it is on the track or how quickly it can sprint from light to light on public roads. High quality engineering and construction translate into reliability and durability. Since these directly determine the economic viability of my cars, they and safety are the major determinants of my purchases. VW products from Bentley and VW Phaetons to whatever is at the bottom (Polos?) have not distinguished themselves in either reliability or longevity.
Some other German brands are little better, if at all. They also tend to be unusually difficult to repair, another hallmark of poor design.
@@JacesOwnWorld I don’t think you’re ever going to get a satisfactory answer from this guy. They clearly saw the title of the video, assumed it was going to be a negative review without actually watching, and immediately ran to the comments to post a rant with unsubstantiated claims.
Meanwhile the review was actually positive (Great job btw, Tyler), and the Mk8 & Mk7 GTIs continue to be relatively reliable, fun little cars :)
Realstick : the Hyundai i30 N has been demolishing the Golf in performance, build quality, reliability, looks, boot space, pricewise and by pure joy factor since 2017 already.
No I30N in the states, just the Elantra N! The GTI has an entirely different purpose than that car. Could be a fun mashup comparison but the Hyundai would handily best the GTI in handling and take an edge in straightline speed. If it’s touching a track, I’d go EN. The GTI 380 would easily win in the comfort/feature department (even in the base trim), it’s more fuel efficient and takes a lower octane in the US while still being playful on a backroad. To each their own.
9:00 That HAS to be one of the ugliest and cheapest looking shifters on the market today.
Nice video highly unreliable car
I’ve had mine 3k miles and it’s mostly fine
Boomer opinion
I'll stick with my WRX for now.
Tyler's luscious long hair also functions as a lateral g meter 5:44
Holy gay Batman