You were pretty close. but as soon as his tires warmed up he was up and away! But that's not a shame!!! The Lola is pure racing car. The 7 is a roadster tuned to be a trackcar!
che motore ha la g70, un ls7? comunque quasi sicuro uno della serie ls. ls7 parte da 506 cv ma tirarne fuori altri 100 o 200 è davvero un attimo e sul dritto ovviamente diventa difficile, però alla prima curva se strigli la caterham.. ;)
I agree with gunz. The R500 driver is braking too early and not flowing through the corners. Some corners are ok, but most see him back off, brake, drive to the apex and then chuck the car at it and stomp the throttle. If he was more gentle with the car and looked further ahead up the track he'd get a bit more time out of it. To be honest though, that's worth perhaps 2 or 3 seconds a lap; as you rightly say, the Lola just has more acceleration at high speed, but is also driven better...
Fuel loaded = much worse power to weight ratio in the first place. For any changes of weight, you need to adjust whole suspension setup to match this weight. It's an engineering miracle, that a fully loaded F1 car is only few % slower when the suspension setup must cope with cca 100 kg difference in such a light car. There are hundreds of factors that mainly influences the cornering speed and you can think only about one very small of them, this indeed satisfied my understanding about you.
It's sensible to think that a more powerful car with supposedly superior aerodynamic (of course we can't know this for sure without doing research) would win a race. However, this is not necessarily always the case. On a drag strip the more powerful car will win, without doubt. On a race track -- especially one with numerous corners and few straits, the better driver will win even driving a car slightly inferior in power and aerodynamics.
Corners would put the superior driver in the inferior car in front. This is doubly so for the lighter Caterham that can corner at greater speeds than the Lola because of it's lighter weight. I won't explore the physics but a bicycle being towed by either car won't won't need brakes going into any corner on any designated car racetrack because of the light weight. Bearing this in mind, the Caterham definitely has the advantage for the corners.
A lighter body can take a corner more aggressively. Think of a dump truck and a stock moto shifter kart negotiating the same corner. Think of a full fuel loaded F1 car versus a qualifying car. Think of other examples that may satisfy your understanding.
la gd70 ha il motore della corvette Z06 portato a ben oltre 700 cv, che su circa 900 kg di macchina ha un rapporto peso potenza di 800cv/ton!!! 0 - 100 kmh in circa 2,5 sec. 0 - 200 kmh in circa 8. Direi che la R500 ne esce comunque bene, ma se avessero girato a Monza avremmo visto la Gardner Douglas solo fino all'Ascari....
I understand where you disagree with me; but closing the distance in a corner means nothing if you can't maintain that closeness coming out of the corner. Do some research ( and I;m not evern saying this to belittle you) and you will see the value of my argument.
Now, the Caterham (based on the ability of the Lola driver) would have been passed on the straights. That the Lola has more power is one (of many) reasons. However, a fine driver (like a Senna) in the Caterham would have the Lola's slip-stream to count on -- come the long straits -- for regaining the lead after being passed. Therefore, a better driver in the Caterham would have won the race. Do these arguments persuade you?
@lallerooo1 Che per la Caterham è stata una vittoria non troppo difficile visto che con i suoi 263 cavalli su appena 500 Kg in curva e in accelerazione era nettamente superiore alla Porsche, visto che adottando un motore posizionato nella parte posteriore ha un controllo e una stabilità in curva di merda. La porsche gli è stata dietro solamente perchè aveva parecchi rettilinei e con la poca potenza del suo motore, la Caterham in rettilineo è una mezza sega...
And you are either a troll or a very bad observer. He's doing good, closing the distance in the corners and under the braking, but when the Lola opens up the throttle on straights, it's just gone. Nothing can be done there.
I'm going to say the same thing I'm going to say to someone else to you. A bicycle matching the speed of either car going into any corner will not need to break! I'm sure of it.
As a matter of fact, prove to me -- with proof from the pages of Physics -- why a well built, road bicycle with an experienced rider cannot negotiate a corner at 1+ G. Then and only then my friend will I be persuaded.
praticamente viaggiate in una dimensione parallela rispetto al resto del "parco auto circolante". le prestazioni di entrambi sono a dir poco impressionanti.
Not saying his driving was faultless, some early apexes here and there maybe, but R500 probably isn't a machine to do smooth laps with, udersteering and have to be thrown to the corner and then it's wild on the exit with all that power on the light rear end. How could you say he should have won against that beast is over me. Racer replica with superior aerodynamics and power to weight ratio against which this Caterham looks like a joke, don't see any chance against well driven one.
Track days prove nothing. One guy is putting in 80% effort and the other guys running 98%. See it all the time a guy in a Miata passes a Ferrari and implies, see I dusted him.
That Caterham is seriously awesome, but nothing can ever replace one's first love, the Lola.
The Lola makes the R500 looks like a 1.6 classic Caterham!
This has got to be the best trackday video on youtube, the power of that GD is simply astonishing. Hairs standing up on the back of the neck time!
Great video, good to see an old car (Lola) still has something to say to the newcomers.
Wow, pure awesomeness. The 7's still my favorite car but damn that Lola's freaking fast.
The car's electric and I don't mean battery powered. Superb car control, made it look easy.
The Caterham driver is not using all the track and tends to turn-in too soon... he can go a lot faster, I think.
You were pretty close. but as soon as his tires warmed up he was up and away! But that's not a shame!!! The Lola is pure racing car. The 7 is a roadster tuned to be a trackcar!
ho visto il video gt2 vs catheram, impressioni sulle due?
gran bel video
Pure insanity!!! Love it 😍
whats the orange thing he goes up the inside of at aroudn 2:20
imola is in italy, right?
Is there a part 2? I feel cheated. Impressive driving, curb to curb
modified gearbox ?
And the GD has a good old fashioned sychro gear box... different strokes. Both great.
That's a realy awesome video, especially how you overtake all the other cars. These poor Lotus people :)
pure adrenaline , love to be part of it.
che motore ha la g70, un ls7? comunque quasi sicuro uno della serie ls.
ls7 parte da 506 cv ma tirarne fuori altri 100 o 200 è davvero un attimo e sul dritto ovviamente diventa difficile, però alla prima curva se strigli la caterham.. ;)
I agree with gunz. The R500 driver is braking too early and not flowing through the corners. Some corners are ok, but most see him back off, brake, drive to the apex and then chuck the car at it and stomp the throttle. If he was more gentle with the car and looked further ahead up the track he'd get a bit more time out of it. To be honest though, that's worth perhaps 2 or 3 seconds a lap; as you rightly say, the Lola just has more acceleration at high speed, but is also driven better...
Im totally not filled with deep rotting emvy when I watch this video
Fun Cars, both of them. I noticed the T70 vanished around 2:17.
Great driving in a real fun car.
Spettacolo c'ero anchio.....La Lola davvero un missile terra aria!
Fantastic.
Fuel loaded = much worse power to weight ratio in the first place. For any changes of weight, you need to adjust whole suspension setup to match this weight. It's an engineering miracle, that a fully loaded F1 car is only few % slower when the suspension setup must cope with cca 100 kg difference in such a light car. There are hundreds of factors that mainly influences the cornering speed and you can think only about one very small of them, this indeed satisfied my understanding about you.
It's sensible to think that a more powerful car with supposedly superior aerodynamic (of course we can't know this for sure without doing research) would win a race. However, this is not necessarily always the case. On a drag strip the more powerful car will win, without doubt. On a race track -- especially one with numerous corners and few straits, the better driver will win even driving a car slightly inferior in power and aerodynamics.
Davvero complimenti!!!
The gearing for that 7 is wrong. For that car, it needs to be changed so that it could stay close or in front of the competition.
oh yeah! no problem))
Cripes that Lola is quick!
Corners would put the superior driver in the inferior car in front. This is doubly so for the lighter Caterham that can corner at greater speeds than the Lola because of it's lighter weight. I won't explore the physics but a bicycle being towed by either car won't won't need brakes going into any corner on any designated car racetrack because of the light weight. Bearing this in mind, the Caterham definitely has the advantage for the corners.
A lighter body can take a corner more aggressively. Think of a dump truck and a stock moto shifter kart negotiating the same corner. Think of a full fuel loaded F1 car versus a qualifying car. Think of other examples that may satisfy your understanding.
la gd70 ha il motore della corvette Z06 portato a ben oltre 700 cv, che su circa 900 kg di macchina ha un rapporto peso potenza di 800cv/ton!!! 0 - 100 kmh in circa 2,5 sec.
0 - 200 kmh in circa 8. Direi che la R500 ne esce comunque bene, ma se avessero girato a Monza avremmo visto la Gardner Douglas solo fino all'Ascari....
nnever seen a caterham in the usa. why?
Wasn’t a VS, Lola at begging just made warm tyres, thing that this R500 don’t wanted to do..
I understand where you disagree with me; but closing the distance in a corner means nothing if you can't maintain that closeness coming out of the corner. Do some research ( and I;m not evern saying this to belittle you) and you will see the value of my argument.
fast hands!
Oh it is so true isn't it. I want to strip my car out sometimes...when do I even have friends to sit in the back!
Screamin mimi!!
Now, the Caterham (based on the ability of the Lola driver) would have been passed on the straights. That the Lola has more power is one (of many) reasons. However, a fine driver (like a Senna) in the Caterham would have the Lola's slip-stream to count on -- come the long straits -- for regaining the lead after being passed. Therefore, a better driver in the Caterham would have won the race. Do these arguments persuade you?
that lola just pulls away so easily from the r500
Why is it that Caterhams are always left behind in the straights?
Low top gear and poor aero
That little Lotus 7 reproduction is the closest thing to a 4 wheel superbike! And it blows the doors off of supercars that cost 8 times the price1
yes
@lallerooo1 Che per la Caterham è stata una vittoria non troppo difficile visto che con i suoi 263 cavalli su appena 500 Kg in curva e in accelerazione era nettamente superiore alla Porsche, visto che adottando un motore posizionato nella parte posteriore ha un controllo e una stabilità in curva di merda. La porsche gli è stata dietro solamente perchè aveva parecchi rettilinei e con la poca potenza del suo motore, la Caterham in rettilineo è una mezza sega...
And you are either a troll or a very bad observer. He's doing good, closing the distance in the corners and under the braking, but when the Lola opens up the throttle on straights, it's just gone. Nothing can be done there.
that Lola may be years older than the fastest Caterham ,BUT IT JUST PULLS AWAY FROM IT AT ANY GIVEN POINT.
Not years older but a modern replica. Almost certainly has a GM LS engine in it.
I'm going to say the same thing I'm going to say to someone else to you. A bicycle matching the speed of either car going into any corner will not need to break! I'm sure of it.
As a matter of fact, prove to me -- with proof from the pages of Physics -- why a well built, road bicycle with an experienced rider cannot negotiate a corner at 1+ G. Then and only then my friend will I be persuaded.
praticamente viaggiate in una dimensione parallela rispetto al resto del "parco auto circolante". le prestazioni di entrambi sono a dir poco impressionanti.
Not saying his driving was faultless, some early apexes here and there maybe, but R500 probably isn't a machine to do smooth laps with, udersteering and have to be thrown to the corner and then it's wild on the exit with all that power on the light rear end. How could you say he should have won against that beast is over me. Racer replica with superior aerodynamics and power to weight ratio against which this Caterham looks like a joke, don't see any chance against well driven one.
Slower traffic-stay to the right
@1:40 the weakness of the R500 becomes apparent - downforce. The beautiful Lola has an abundance of downforce.
I think the lola is 700 bhp... well done Caterham!
Track days prove nothing. One guy is putting in 80% effort and the other guys running 98%. See it all the time a guy in a Miata passes a Ferrari and implies, see I dusted him.
0:45 fuck the GTR
guy in the Caterham is either new to the track or doesn't know how to take corners. he should 'a' won.
No replacement for displacement!