I haven't yet listened to my 8LP set as it hasn't arrived yet but overall based on what I've listened to on Apple Music, I'm really positive about this new remix. I think too many people react to these remixes, particularly the Beatles remixes as a new definitive version that is meant to replace the old version but it's not, and I certainly don't think of it that way either. They even have "50th anniversary" printed on the box so you know it's not the original. To me, it's just an alternative version to enjoy alongside the original which I will continue to listen to when I feel like it. I haven't listened to all of the outtakes either, I was going to save it for the LP set.
Agree completely. Just like all the previous anniversary editions, I consider this 50th anniversary edition to be bonus content to the original releases.
Nice to here from you has I like your personal opinion and I appreciate your research you do on the subjects George is a great artist and I love his music I do like thus album
Bobby Whitlock remembers everyone that played on every track it was there for every session. Amazingly they didn’t ask him for any input on the liner notes. There is no input from Eric Clapton either who was there for the whole thing except my sweet lord , even though he couldn’t put his name on it. I wonder if they even asked him?
The book with the CD/blu-ray package does have one or two quotes from Clapton, but in general, it doesn't look like they went the route of talking to everyone who's still around from the sessions but mostly let the album credits stand as they are. It's interesting to know exactly who played what, but not essential to the experience, and frankly, I wouldn't take anyone's 50-year-old memories 100% uncritically. ON the sheer volume of unreleased music, I think this holds higher value the recent Lennon boxes. Plus the remix is truly distinctive, while the Lennon remixes are beautiful but hew closer to the original versions.
@@Ian_Jules Pretty insulting to Bobby Whitlock especially as he sounds incredibly clear about what went down. On the matter of the album he is virtually the last man standing who was there and, with respect, you weren't.
@@Ian_Jules You might want to listen to Bobby's recollections before you judge....He seems perfectly clear, prescient, and readily fesses up when he cant remember something well.
The original is fine. I’m with John Lennon. Some songs just go on too long. Wah Wah being an especially frustrating example. The decision to quietly write Spector and the Dominoes (core band) out of the ATMP history is a massive mistake. If they wanted to make bank, they should have made a documentary on the album. So many great musicians and friends contributed, and have stories yet to tell. The keepers of the Harrison catalog did a lousy job on this.
I'm glad that more people will finally hear such curios as Nowhere To Go and Going Down To Golders Green, which I've been enjoying for a number of years. As for the album material, though, I think I'll stick with the old mixes of most of the tracks. That's just what I've been accustomed to hearing for several decades and am set in my ways. I agree about the Apple Jam. Interestingly enough, Ken Scott said that George actually wanted to admit it from the 30th Anniversary edition but feared that purists might be upset about its exclusion.
My 5th time for this album. 1) late 70’s album. 2) early 80’s cassette. 3) late 80’s CD. 4) 30th anniversary. 5) the 5CD edition, just to get the bonus tracks.
First record I ever bought. Maybe I was 11 years old. I’ve had good taste ever since. 😉I have to say I always loved apple jam and played it over and over. I thought George might explain it a little more on his 2000 30th anniversary remix. But he didn’t. I find the whole thing a mystery how it came about. Basically it’s Derek and the dominoes with George. Great musicians and fun to play along with. Run of the mill is perfect song in every way
I thought "if not for you" was worse on the new mix. The rest of the updated track basically push the vocals up, but overall I'm happy with the older versions.
In a year you can probably pick this up for 50% less than what it costs today; if you're interested in owning it. The remastered version is enough for me.
Contractual obligations to other record companies to which many of the players were signed exclusively, created a massive clearance problem for George, so everyone just played anonymously. Bobby Whitlock - who hates the new mixes on vinyl - remembers everyone who played on the record, and is apparently the only one. Spector's "wall of sound" isn't really the liberal use of echo (it's actually reverb not echo), the real wall of sound is created by a LOT of players playing simultaneously. Two drummers, five guitar players, two bass players, a horn section, singers, etc. It's a wall of sound. Reverb was used to create the space needed to accommodate the massive sound, and mixed in a way only Phil could mix. You can't just dissemble it and expect it to sound "Spector-less". That's ridiculous.
There was a long list of credits on the first album. Frampton and Collins both recall buying the album and being disappointed that they were not credited. Frampton doesn't say it outright in his autobiography, but he felt used and really didn't have much to do with Harrison after. He recounts that he asked Harrison if he could be on Bangladesh and he was told no. Then Harrison was worried that Clapton wouldn't show and was frantically trying to get a hold of Frampton. I agree with you totally on Spector. If Harrison was not happy, as he has publicly stated after the first track Was-Wah, then he should have gotten a different producer. It was 1970, MOST producers would have loved working with a Beatle.
I just finished downloading all the tracks I wanted (all but 10 or so, including the jams, the 'Isn't It a Pity ver. 2 Take 27', the blues number 'Almost 12 Bar Honky Tonk', 'Om Hare Om' which I already have once or twice. Yes the guitars are clearer, in fact some may be too clear, I don't need to hear buttons brushing against the guitar body. It's all a bit too loud like most albums these day but I haven't listened to the whole album yet, just samples, snippets to check volume levels, etc. I never noticed before how passive the album is, songs about I'd have you (not chase you), isn't it a pity (shrug), behind that locked door (please let me in), run of the mill is all negation of action (just open up your heart), beware, let it roll, let it down, awaiting, things will pass. It's a more receptive role, I'd even say traditionally feminine, more contemplative than active which is what meditation and prayer are about. Speaking of bare bones I noticed my original CD set of the album has zero writing, no booklets just songs listed, not even the times lengths are there, no other photos or text, nothing. I saw the new box on Larry Graves' video yesterday, it's a strange size, won't fit easily on a shelf, wider than a half-size box set, shorter too though.
Thanks for your insights on the newly remixed version of ATMP. I'm looking forward to listening to it very soon. It's seem like a very interesting project.
Coincidentally, yesterday evening I was listening to my original CDs of this album from the 1980s, when I noticed that the 50th anniversary edition had appeared on Spotify. I tried to make a cursory comparison between the two, but couldn't find much of a difference, unlike what some UA-camrs stated on their channels. One reviewer (Andrew Dixon) did a song-by-song comparison and chose a favorite version. I'll go back and watch his review and give it a re-listen. I did notice that George's voice seemed a bit clearer and more prominent. I was happy with the original album / CD and the 50th anniversary version has done nothing to change my mind. George created the 1970 version, but did not create the 2020 version, so the former is what he intended, so I'm good with that.
I got the basic 3LP version for £70 from my local branch of HMV. Damned expensive but something I've wanted to add to my vinyl collection for a while so it's nice to finally have it.
Reading through the comments here, I seem to have the minority opinion because I hear a HUGE difference and I LOVE it! I’ve never liked Spector’s “Wall Of Mush” sound, so it is wonderful for me to hear this mix, where I can finally make out all the instruments and understand every word that George sings. It’s night and day for me, and this is definitely the only version I’ll ever listen to from now on.
I like the remix much more than the original. Couldn't stand all the Phil Spector crap on it. I always felt I was listening to it in a cave with earmuffs on. Love this new version.
I bought the original LP set 50 years ago, and in all that time I've listened to the Apple Jam record maybe twice. The band probably had fun playing on it, but as a listening experience, it doesn't gel.
I always think of the Apple Jams as akin to end credits music for a fantastic film, and not as an insult. The double album is the film, the epic journey we all go on, and the Jams are BTS which lighten the mood from all the intensity as we process what we've experienced
I like the oversee George Harrison 2001/30 anniversary the best. Yes his vocals on the new one 50th anniversary, are More upfront, but I’ll stick with the 2001. My sweet lord sounds a lot better on the 30th anniversary
I got the 5 CD set. I've noticed a few things in the new mixes but still need to do a comparison. I am disappointed in the packaging. The box can fit inside of Lennon's POB slipcase. POB's book weighs more than the entire ATMP box.
Strange that the book mark which is in the Uber set is made out of an Oak tree from Friar park estate is carved into the shape of a Sycamore leaf. i thought the Harrisons knew about Horticulture!
Hi John. I had my first listen yesterday. I enjoyed it but I'm still not sure about the reverb-less sound; it seems to have robbed some of the tracks of a bit of their original grandeur.
I can't really hear that much different .t's all right. But I'm saving my money for the next installment of the bootleg Series by Bob Dylan next month. 5 CD book set.. At a fraction of the price.
I love disc 3, with just Ringo and Klaus. I would have liked to see the Spector stuff dialed back even further on the finished lp. Supposedly some of Spector's garbage couldn't be removed as they were mixed into the tracks. Loathed his production techniques. Still a bit of an improvement over the original. The drummers' styles are so different, one can pick out the Ringo and Jim Gordon tracks. It is a shame the credits aren't more definitive.
I bought the original vinly set in 1981, and listened to it happily for 20 years. In 2001 I got the George-approved reissue, and was happy with the extra tracks. Am I gaining anything in my listening experience if I buy any of the new mixes?
Sorry, but I find the new remix too loud, way too bassy, and George’s voice too upfront. I prefer the original Spectorized version, and that will still be my go-too.
John I normally agree with you but not on this occasion. Listening on Spotify does not do this remix justice. I have listened on Qobuz in hi res and I think the album has been cleared up amazingly. George’s vocals are much more to the fore and on songs such as Wah Wah the clarity has been brought out in a massive way. This will be my reference version from now on and I will probably buy the hi res download. Phill’s wall of sound has been toned down but like you say not to a degree where it suffers. Love your Chanel.
You just don't remove one of Phil's musical elements without consulting the original architect's drawings. That delay line on the drums turns out to be load-bearing. And the slightly sappy string section we have all grown to love is the support element that holds up half the song apparently. No, all those sounds and all those billions of decisions that went into making this record should be left as they were when the geniuses where being paid to make them. There's a reason they did it that way.
@@invisibleray6987 No. All I have heard so far is the naked version of ATMP the tune. Does the Yugoslav version have a different mix? I need to hear this I think.
You're right when you say you have invested so much money throughout the years getting different versions. I've done it, too. But I couldn't resist so I bought "the cheapest" 3-set vinyl version and I have to say that it is beautifully made! The package is even better and slightly bigger that the classic ones. Anyway, It's going to be my last investing.
Yugoslavia is no more,so no reissue. But to my suprise,i found out through his video that it was pressed in it. And second suprise how Brit got it. But now i know he lives in Hungary,so he can get every pressing from former Yugoslavia very easy. Thanks to John,i asked around and i found one near o.k. copy for 30€. Later if everything works out,i'll get U.K.first pressing.130€.
I agree with John. If George did not like the Wall of Sound volume, he could have turned it down in the original mix. It is one thing to remaster an album (the 30th anniversary version is the best), it is something else to change the mix from the original. I will not be buying.
I got my All Things Must Pass Bingo! Apple Jam is pointless Essentially a double album They charge like a triple. 😂 peace and love John peace and love. For the record I'm not taking the Mickey. Thanks for the Pepperoni genuinely rocks! Every time you knock the apple jam it's like you want rid of a large part of the album. The songs are part of the whole. It's like you saying knock the last three songs off wings over america to me. Love your channel. Waited for this episode. Buy the physical releases when you can, it's better audio than streaming. Makes a difference.
Much prefer the 2001 remaster of ATMP album. I feel the remixed 50th anniversary release is an utter waste of time. The Harrison estate must be in need of a royalty boost!
I agree with you 1000% it is the best of all solo Beatles albums. It’s a beautiful album. It is all the pinned up songs wanted to released, but still being with the Beatles waiting until it was over. Simply a masterpiece like you said minus the jam album. But I still prefer the 30th anniversary release of all things must Pass. Like you, I might end up getting splatter vinyl. But I hear it on Spotify so it’s free.☮️
“My Sweet Lord/Isn’t It a Pity” is a sonic masterpiece in the Spector tradition of producing great singles… it still sounds great on the radio or wherever you might hear it as a stand alone song… The rest of the songs on the album don’t really breathe until they get to The Concert for Bangla Desh Every Beatle solo debut illustrates their characters as individuals John’s POB was raw and direct Paul’s showed off his ability to do everything… Ringo’s was a Sentimental Journey And George got all his other talented non Beatle buddies in to play All had merits but none as good as “Abbey Road”
I bought the 5 LP edition, primarily because I wanted a new vinyl pressing that wasn't scratchy and didn't skip...and downloaded the 5 CD set from I tunes. It all sounds wondetful and the remixes are more apparent on some songs than they are on others
You don’t sound very excited about it. I remember everyone going nuts about the Sgt Pepper remix when it came out but the reviews on this seem really mixed
I listened to the new Mix on Spotify and agree the background instrumentation has been bought more upfront and the vocals are clearer its good !! especially the OH SIR FRANKIE CRISP lol I never noticed that in the original mix. But I feel the new mix is too quiet it's well balanced but not Dynamic and loud enough for me.
I got The 8 album release,it’s horrible,I’ve listened to this ( my all time favorite album ) for 50 years,they ruined it…the 30 year is much better and of course the original…the demos and outtakes are great,.
Watch his new video of yesterday.. Bobby Whitlock called the set a huge disaster in both substance and quality. Called it a sophomoric production by amateurs. One wonders what the GH Estate wanted to prove with this humiliating stunt.
John: I searched BBC Radio 4 for the Nitin Sawhney interview you mentioned here with Alan White and Bobby Whitlock, and I could not find this. Do you know when that interview was, and could you help me locate it? I'd really like to listen to it. Thank you for posting your thoughts here about this catastrophe with ATMP 50th, it really is A PITY!
Hi John, what is your favourite beatles cover song? mine is Carol Carpenter ticket to ride. Have you heard Frankie Miller cover version of cold turkey?
I just watched a music reactor view 'Handle With Care' by the Traveling Wilburys for the 1st time, that reminded me of their box set. I trust you own that one, it has both albums each with 2 bonus tracks plus a DVD, a booklet with their fake history and some postcards and a certificate of authenticity. I'd never part with mine.
I feel like the new mix makes the album sound more like a follow-up to Abbey Road than a George solo album. The production is very Beatle-like which of course is a mixed bag because the Beatles production was a mixed bag. I think the songs that sound most like Beatles numbers sound best along with the quieter tunes, which the least Beatle sounding songs such as Hear Me Lord, Awaiting on you All, let it down etc. work better with that bigger Spector production. I prefer the Beatles Giles Martin remixes in most scenarios and I think this is reminiscent of that, even though he wasn’t involved.
I've enjoyed this remix in much the same way I've enjoyed "Let It Be, Naked" in the past. The removal of Specter's Wall of Sound provides a whole new listening experience which I quite enjoy. I wouldn't necessarily say it's better than the original but it is most interesting and the vinyl edition, which I bought, sounds terrific. Nice discussion, John.
Hi John- i was really excited when i heard the first release “all things must pass” single. It sounded so fresh, clean and stripped back, and without a lot of the massive reverb etc. But i must say, hearing the remix, though it sounds clearer and better, theres still a lot of the reverb especially on the drums and on the heavier songs. I was hoping for more of the stripping back, it would have been cool. They should have been more daring in this respect and made something more different. If you want the original then listen to that.
For those saying that the album mix as it was released it 1970 was what George wanted, and therefore that renders this new mix as worse and "unofficial", this is simply not true. George stated that when the album was released he was happy with how it sounded, but as time went on he thought the Spectre esque production had aged worse for wear and he wanted to pursue stripping down the tracks and removing the "wall of sound" embellishments. He had started work on this before his death in 2001, however the technology simply was not there yet to achieve what he wanted. This new mix is simply an effort to fulfill the wishes of George himself.
John I tend to agree that this is best Beatle solo album with Band on the Run which is a near perfect pop record a close 2nd. Very close to that are Ram , Plastic Ono Band and Imagine so nearly all the best solo albums came just after the break up
I really wish the Harrison camp would follow Dylan's lead and just issue archive releases like the bootleg series and leave the back catalog alone. There is no need to remix George's back catalog. It is already brilliantly produced. Only Somewhere in England needs fixing and that's only to add the original track listing. This is a novelty mix and I think it will help people appreciate the Spector production more as a result. An insightful review John. If I were to recommend a format it would be hi res download 1st (HD tracks), vinyl 2nd then CD 3rd. Hi res sounds more dynamic. CD sounds way too compressed.
Hands up, I am returning to the best Beatles solo album chestnut. No other Beatles solo album covers all of the music genres so brilliantly. For instance, the Plastic Ono Band has few lighter moments, Band on the Run lacks a classic McCartney ballad etc, etc.
So first point of the remix/reissue was to confound the bootleggers and reclaim the material that the bootleggers made their profits on; job done. Second point about the project is the issuing of the bonus material that nobody knew about; job done. Thirdly; there was always a limited amount of 'de-Spectorisation' possible, once done it was a matter of knowing how far to go and how much it would divide the public; job half done. Sleeve notes problems not resolved; job not done. After that there was the issue of how it would sound on different modern digital media, from Spotify to youtube/MP3 to standard CD to vinyl to Blu-ray to ultra high rez download, listen to the lower end of the quality spectrum and you will wonder what the fuss was about.
To me the main difference with this new mix is that they have increased the vocals, drums, and bass. Some of tracks benefit and some don't. I thought "Art of Dying" was the best improvement. The others I am half new mix half old mix. "My Sweet Lord," "All Things," and "If Not For You" I much prefer the old mix. The highlight of the set for me are the outtakes and demos. Those sound great because there is no problem of how to handle the Phil Spector production.
This new version sounds so much better. Spector made it sound like the album was recorded in a 44 gallon drum. It now sounds fresh and clear. Listened to it last night Listening on Spotify is not the way to listen to make a review The Apple Jams are fantastic TURN IT UP LOUD!!
Lyrics to I Dig Love seemed more fitting for the time. Comes off kind of hippie-ish now. But I still dig that song:) I've heard a bunch of the re-mix songs. Some sound cleaner. But, I also think the original may be what I stay with. To me, the re-mix of My Sweet Lord is not great. Lost its "epic" appeal. And George's vocals sound like a rough demo placed over the original recording.
I find that the best video hosts always open with a cough. Wait a minute, you can’t tell the difference between a George Harrison solo and an Eric Clapton solo?…Really? So, what have you been listening to all your life, flugelhorn music?
I'm getting a little tired of all these re-mixes. The originals were great weren't they? I bought the Abbey Road re-mix by Giles Martin and aside from a slight boost in the backing vocals on Oh Darling didn't think there was much to it. As for best solo Beatles, I'd go with ATMP even with the jam on it. Imagine and POB running a close second.
I have to completely disagree with you. The apple jam disc is a great bonus to have. It should not even be considered when rating the album. It's a completely separate thing. If you're rating the album lower because of that then don't bother to make rating videos. The Jams are a separate thing
It was sold in the UK as a triple album & priced as such. Therefore the jam disc was considered integral to the release & not a bonus record, so has to be considered when looking at the overall quality of All Things Must Pass as a LP!
As much as I've tried, All Things has never really appealed to me. It's kind of predictable, and even repetitive and boring (eg "My Sweet Lord"), compared with Beatles stuff. However, your video prompted me to have a listen to each song to see how it relates to your comments, which has been interesting. I know you disagree, but I've now got a track I love on this album, which is, "Isn't it a Pity Version 2" - quite sublime, especially with the "off-kilter" piano.
Not sure I agree about Wah Wah, listen to it side by side with the original and it’s clear as day which one is superior. The remix sounds like a monitor mix or something.
The new mix really sucks. Bobby Whitlock has so much background on all of the sessions. Too bad they did not ask him . Would be great to know who played on what. Save your had earned $$$. NOT WORTH IT..
Sincerely hope they do the same for all of his albums, however I wouldn't be surprised if they skipped 17 years and did cloud nine and no others. Would especially be a shame to miss albums like material world and self titled, which are superior to ATMP
People complain about the 80s sound on Cloud 9. Next up will probably be another best of, then silence until the 60th of ATMP. the estate disrespects Georges catalog.
@@ronfowlermusic yeah it's a shame, session outtakes from dark horse/ extra texture would be really interesting but you're right about their disrespect towards those albums
To be honest I'm happy with the 2001 remaster overseen by George himself...
Same for me, and the remastering of the apple jam tracks makes them sound more interesting.
Also me, the new remix dont do anything to me.
@@mikel4797 Thirded.
Same here!!!
...then he did his new "My sweet Lord" version changing the singing notes. That track is not in the 2021 ATMP, why not?
I've spoken to several Genesis fans who are extremely disappointed the new remasters don't make Phil Collins bongo solo on Wah Wah more audible.
It wasn't wah wah. it was art of dying and it was wiped
The review that I've been waiting for!
I haven't yet listened to my 8LP set as it hasn't arrived yet but overall based on what I've listened to on Apple Music, I'm really positive about this new remix. I think too many people react to these remixes, particularly the Beatles remixes as a new definitive version that is meant to replace the old version but it's not, and I certainly don't think of it that way either. They even have "50th anniversary" printed on the box so you know it's not the original. To me, it's just an alternative version to enjoy alongside the original which I will continue to listen to when I feel like it. I haven't listened to all of the outtakes either, I was going to save it for the LP set.
Agree completely. Just like all the previous anniversary editions, I consider this 50th anniversary edition to be bonus content to the original releases.
Nice to here from you has I like your personal opinion and I appreciate your research you do on the subjects George is a great artist and I love his music I do like thus album
Bobby Whitlock remembers everyone that played on every track it was there for every session. Amazingly they didn’t ask him for any input on the liner notes. There is no input from Eric Clapton either who was there for the whole thing except my sweet lord , even though he couldn’t put his name on it. I wonder if they even asked him?
Go to Bobby's recent post on the release. he hates it for some reason. Sais the new vinyl mix is junk.
The book with the CD/blu-ray package does have one or two quotes from Clapton, but in general, it doesn't look like they went the route of talking to everyone who's still around from the sessions but mostly let the album credits stand as they are. It's interesting to know exactly who played what, but not essential to the experience, and frankly, I wouldn't take anyone's 50-year-old memories 100% uncritically.
ON the sheer volume of unreleased music, I think this holds higher value the recent Lennon boxes. Plus the remix is truly distinctive, while the Lennon remixes are beautiful but hew closer to the original versions.
@@Ian_Jules Pretty insulting to Bobby Whitlock especially as he sounds incredibly clear about what went down. On the matter of the album he is virtually the last man standing who was there and, with respect, you weren't.
@@Ian_Jules You might want to listen to Bobby's recollections before you judge....He seems perfectly clear, prescient, and readily fesses up when he cant remember something well.
According to the soundtrack to Clapton's Life In 12 Bars he did play on My Sweet Lord.
Good video John totally agree with you about Apple Jam.
The original is fine. I’m with John Lennon. Some songs just go on too long. Wah Wah being an especially frustrating example. The decision to quietly write Spector and the Dominoes (core band) out of the ATMP history is a massive mistake. If they wanted to make bank, they should have made a documentary on the album. So many great musicians and friends contributed, and have stories yet to tell. The keepers of the Harrison catalog did a lousy job on this.
@Avalon Hike which 2014?
I’ve got the original 3 album set & the 2001 CD set, that’s enough for me.
John I have been waiting for your review - someone I trust and whose opinion I value keep doing these
I just started to watch this video and was amused to see John wearing the tshirt I am currently wearing
Thanks for your thoughts John. I'm loving the bonus tracks on this package. Great stuff.
I'm glad that more people will finally hear such curios as Nowhere To Go and Going Down To Golders Green, which I've been enjoying for a number of years.
As for the album material, though, I think I'll stick with the old mixes of most of the tracks. That's just what I've been accustomed to hearing for several decades and am set in my ways.
I agree about the Apple Jam. Interestingly enough, Ken Scott said that George actually wanted to admit it from the 30th Anniversary edition but feared that purists might be upset about its exclusion.
My 5th time for this album. 1) late 70’s album. 2) early 80’s cassette. 3) late 80’s CD. 4) 30th anniversary. 5) the 5CD edition, just to get the bonus tracks.
I have the original CD and the 2001 remastered. I can't see myself buying it for a third time.
First record I ever bought. Maybe I was 11 years old. I’ve had good taste ever since. 😉I have to say I always loved apple jam and played it over and over. I thought George might explain it a little more on his 2000 30th anniversary remix. But he didn’t. I find the whole thing a mystery how it came about. Basically it’s Derek and the dominoes with George. Great musicians and fun to play along with.
Run of the mill is perfect song in every way
Well, we are all entitled to our own opinions. Yes, many renditions. BUT.......the surround sound mix is unbelievable.....very clear....
I thought "if not for you" was worse on the new mix. The rest of the updated track basically push the vocals up, but overall I'm happy with the older versions.
In a year you can probably pick this up for 50% less than what it costs today; if you're interested in owning it. The remastered version is enough for me.
The 5 CD set is overpriced and I won’t pay the price they are asking
Contractual obligations to other record companies to which many of the players were signed exclusively, created a massive clearance problem for George, so everyone just played anonymously. Bobby Whitlock - who hates the new mixes on vinyl - remembers everyone who played on the record, and is apparently the only one. Spector's "wall of sound" isn't really the liberal use of echo (it's actually reverb not echo), the real wall of sound is created by a LOT of players playing simultaneously. Two drummers, five guitar players, two bass players, a horn section, singers, etc. It's a wall of sound. Reverb was used to create the space needed to accommodate the massive sound, and mixed in a way only Phil could mix. You can't just dissemble it and expect it to sound "Spector-less". That's ridiculous.
There was a long list of credits on the first album. Frampton and Collins both recall buying the album and being disappointed that they were not credited. Frampton doesn't say it outright in his autobiography, but he felt used and really didn't have much to do with Harrison after. He recounts that he asked Harrison if he could be on Bangladesh and he was told no. Then Harrison was worried that Clapton wouldn't show and was frantically trying to get a hold of Frampton.
I agree with you totally on
Spector. If Harrison was not happy, as he has publicly stated after the first track Was-Wah, then he should have gotten a different producer. It was 1970, MOST producers would have loved working with a Beatle.
All Things Must Pass was clearly Spector’s most controversial effort until 2003 when he shot actress Lana Clarkson in the mouth, killing her.
I just finished downloading all the tracks I wanted (all but 10 or so, including the jams, the 'Isn't It a Pity ver. 2 Take 27', the blues number 'Almost 12 Bar Honky Tonk', 'Om Hare Om' which I already have once or twice. Yes the guitars are clearer, in fact some may be too clear, I don't need to hear buttons brushing against the guitar body. It's all a bit too loud like most albums these day but I haven't listened to the whole album yet, just samples, snippets to check volume levels, etc.
I never noticed before how passive the album is, songs about I'd have you (not chase you), isn't it a pity (shrug), behind that locked door (please let me in), run of the mill is all negation of action (just open up your heart), beware, let it roll, let it down, awaiting, things will pass. It's a more receptive role, I'd even say traditionally feminine, more contemplative than active which is what meditation and prayer are about.
Speaking of bare bones I noticed my original CD set of the album has zero writing, no booklets just songs listed, not even the times lengths are there, no other photos or text, nothing. I saw the new box on Larry Graves' video yesterday, it's a strange size, won't fit easily on a shelf, wider than a half-size box set, shorter too though.
Thanks for your insights on the newly remixed version of ATMP. I'm looking forward to listening to it very soon. It's seem like a very interesting project.
Coincidentally, yesterday evening I was listening to my original CDs of this album from the 1980s, when I noticed that the 50th anniversary edition had appeared on Spotify. I tried to make a cursory comparison between the two, but couldn't find much of a difference, unlike what some UA-camrs stated on their channels. One reviewer (Andrew Dixon) did a song-by-song comparison and chose a favorite version. I'll go back and watch his review and give it a re-listen. I did notice that George's voice seemed a bit clearer and more prominent.
I was happy with the original album / CD and the 50th anniversary version has done nothing to change my mind. George created the 1970 version, but did not create the 2020 version, so the former is what he intended, so I'm good with that.
I got the basic 3LP version for £70 from my local branch of HMV. Damned expensive but something I've wanted to add to my vinyl collection for a while so it's nice to finally have it.
Reading through the comments here, I seem to have the minority opinion because I hear a HUGE difference and I LOVE it!
I’ve never liked Spector’s “Wall Of Mush” sound, so it is wonderful for me to hear this mix, where I can finally make out all the instruments and understand every word that George sings. It’s night and day for me, and this is definitely the only version I’ll ever listen to from now on.
I like the remix much more than the original. Couldn't stand all the Phil Spector crap on it. I always felt I was listening to it in a cave with earmuffs on. Love this new version.
What took you so long John? Been looking for this video since yesterday when the LP box came out!
He had to take it in!
The original release would have been better as a double album. When I play it on vinyl I usually don't play the jam record.
Exactly.
I bought the original LP set 50 years ago, and in all that time I've listened to the Apple Jam record maybe twice. The band probably had fun playing on it, but as a listening experience, it doesn't gel.
You are missing out. The Apple Jams must be PLAYED LOUD!!
I always think of the Apple Jams as akin to end credits music for a fantastic film, and not as an insult. The double album is the film, the epic journey we all go on, and the Jams are BTS which lighten the mood from all the intensity as we process what we've experienced
I like the oversee George Harrison 2001/30 anniversary the best. Yes his vocals on the new one 50th anniversary, are More upfront, but I’ll stick with the 2001. My sweet lord sounds a lot better on the 30th anniversary
Also why didn't they include "I live for you" on Spotify - only the demo version included (and I love that song)
@ksfhhnfan yeah but if you’re gonna include all the demos and stuff you may as well stick that track on - one of da bezt !
@ksfhhnfan idk they could have put it just before the demo or smth
@ksfhhnfan we’ll have to wait for the 60th anniversary milking
Love the T-shirt. Thx for this. It’s a great album. It’s my favorite Beatle solo album. Doesn’t need to be improved but nothing wrong with trying.
I’m happy that we get to hear the original recording of “It’s Johnny’s Birthday “.
I got the 5 CD set. I've noticed a few things in the new mixes but still need to do a comparison. I am disappointed in the packaging. The box can fit inside of Lennon's POB slipcase. POB's book weighs more than the entire ATMP box.
YAWN. Underwhelming and disappointing, Team Hari. Gimme the Spector.
Hi,northern neighbour,thanks to you i have Yugoslavia pressing too. Cheers!😎 You changed " plastic baggies," with wrong paper inner sleeves.
Strange that the book mark which is in the Uber set is made out of an Oak tree from Friar park estate is carved into the shape of a Sycamore leaf. i thought the Harrisons knew about Horticulture!
Oh no I better send the whole thing back
You can take a horticulture, but you can’t make her think
Hi John. I had my first listen yesterday. I enjoyed it but I'm still not sure about the reverb-less sound; it seems to have robbed some of the tracks of a bit of their original grandeur.
At least Ram and Band on the Run sound great
I can't really hear that much different .t's all right. But I'm saving my money for the next installment of the bootleg Series by Bob Dylan next month. 5 CD book set.. At a fraction of the price.
They shouldn't have done this, the original mix was how George wanted it to sound, just my opinion
Fun Fact: George felt the Wall Of Sound was too harsh.
It’s a cash cow for the George estate stick to the original .
I love disc 3, with just Ringo and Klaus. I would have liked to see the Spector stuff dialed back even further on the finished lp. Supposedly some of Spector's garbage couldn't be removed as they were mixed into the tracks. Loathed his production techniques. Still a bit of an improvement over the original. The drummers' styles are so different, one can pick out the Ringo and Jim Gordon tracks. It is a shame the credits aren't more definitive.
I bought the original vinly set in 1981, and listened to it happily for 20 years. In 2001 I got the George-approved reissue, and was happy with the extra tracks. Am I gaining anything in my listening experience if I buy any of the new mixes?
Sorry, but I find the new remix too loud, way too bassy, and George’s voice too upfront. I prefer the original Spectorized version, and that will still be my go-too.
John I normally agree with you but not on this occasion. Listening on Spotify does not do this remix justice. I have listened on Qobuz in hi res and I think the album has been cleared up amazingly. George’s vocals are much more to the fore and on songs such as Wah Wah the clarity has been brought out in a massive way. This will be my reference version from now on and I will probably buy the hi res download. Phill’s wall of sound has been toned down but like you say not to a degree where it suffers. Love your Chanel.
agree100%. high res is incredible
I like the new remix. It’s much less muddy than the original.
I'm wearing the same t-shirt!
I cant hear much remix, i must say the 2001 remaster is the best for me, the album itself is a true masterpiece.
You just don't remove one of Phil's musical elements without consulting the original architect's drawings. That delay line on the drums turns out to be load-bearing. And the slightly sappy string section we have all grown to love is the support element that holds up half the song apparently. No, all those sounds and all those billions of decisions that went into making this record should be left as they were when the geniuses where being paid to make them. There's a reason they did it that way.
Have you got the Yugoslav copy?
This is the best analysis I’ve read yet. Great analogy. Spector’s ATMP is definitely an engineering masterwork.
@@invisibleray6987 No. All I have heard so far is the naked version of ATMP the tune. Does the Yugoslav version have a different mix? I need to hear this I think.
You're right when you say you have invested so much money throughout the years getting different versions. I've done it, too. But I couldn't resist so I bought "the cheapest" 3-set vinyl version and I have to say that it is beautifully made! The package is even better and slightly bigger that the classic ones. Anyway, It's going to be my last investing.
Love your 2 LP version - wish that was one of the reissue options
Good Stuff
Yugoslavia is no more,so no reissue. But to my suprise,i found out through his video that it was pressed in it. And second suprise how Brit got it. But now i know he lives in Hungary,so he can get every pressing from former Yugoslavia very easy. Thanks to John,i asked around and i found one near o.k. copy for 30€. Later if everything works out,i'll get U.K.first pressing.130€.
I agree with John. If George did not like the Wall of Sound volume, he could have turned it down in the original mix. It is one thing to remaster an album (the 30th anniversary version is the best), it is something else to change the mix from the original. I will not be buying.
I got my All Things Must Pass Bingo!
Apple Jam is pointless
Essentially a double album
They charge like a triple.
😂 peace and love John peace and love.
For the record I'm not taking the Mickey. Thanks for the Pepperoni genuinely rocks! Every time you knock the apple jam it's like you want rid of a large part of the album. The songs are part of the whole. It's like you saying knock the last three songs off wings over america to me.
Love your channel. Waited for this episode. Buy the physical releases when you can, it's better audio than streaming. Makes a difference.
The Apple Jam is wonderful. I really love it.
apple jam is awesome. some of the greatest musicians in rock history jamming away. phenomenal
Much prefer the 2001 remaster of ATMP album. I feel the remixed 50th anniversary release is an utter waste of time. The Harrison estate must be in need of a royalty boost!
I agree with you 1000% it is the best of all solo Beatles albums. It’s a beautiful album. It is all the pinned up songs wanted to released, but still being with the Beatles waiting until it was over. Simply a masterpiece like you said minus the jam album. But I still prefer the 30th anniversary release of all things must Pass. Like you, I might end up getting splatter vinyl. But I hear it on Spotify so it’s free.☮️
“My Sweet Lord/Isn’t It a Pity”
is a sonic masterpiece in the Spector tradition of producing great singles… it still sounds great on the radio or wherever you might hear it as a stand alone song…
The rest of the songs on the album don’t really breathe
until they get to
The Concert for Bangla Desh
Every Beatle solo debut illustrates their characters as individuals
John’s POB was raw and direct
Paul’s showed off his ability to do everything…
Ringo’s was a Sentimental Journey
And George got all his other talented non Beatle buddies in to play
All had merits
but none as good as
“Abbey Road”
I bought the 5 LP edition, primarily because I wanted a new vinyl pressing that wasn't scratchy and didn't skip...and downloaded the 5 CD set from I tunes. It all sounds wondetful and the remixes are more apparent on some songs than they are on others
You don’t sound very excited about it. I remember everyone going nuts about the Sgt Pepper remix when it came out but the reviews on this seem really mixed
I listened to the new Mix on Spotify and agree the background instrumentation has been bought more upfront and the vocals are clearer its good !! especially the OH SIR FRANKIE CRISP lol I never noticed that in the original mix. But I feel the new mix is too quiet it's well balanced but not Dynamic and loud enough for me.
Oh sir Frankie crisp 😂
Great thoughts. Should this have been split into two great albums? Comments on that John?
I got
The 8 album release,it’s horrible,I’ve listened to this ( my all time favorite album ) for 50 years,they ruined it…the 30 year is much better and of course the original…the demos and outtakes are great,.
Orange vinyl would be really nice!
maybe for an Extra Texture re-mix.
Watch his new video of yesterday.. Bobby Whitlock called the set a huge disaster in both substance and quality. Called it a sophomoric production by amateurs. One wonders what the GH Estate wanted to prove with this humiliating stunt.
Let's hear what Dhani has to say as his interview will be broadcast today on BBC Radio 2.
Why fix something that isn't broke? Oh, to make a lot of money.
Oh, it was broken. Even George himself wanted the Wall Of Sound to be knocked down.
@@MeanMrMayo Use George Martin, who did an excellent job on the Beatles catalogue? No, use Phil Spector who already fucked up Let It Be.
John: I searched BBC Radio 4 for the Nitin Sawhney interview you mentioned here with Alan White and Bobby Whitlock, and I could not find this. Do you know when that interview was, and could you help me locate it? I'd really like to listen to it. Thank you for posting your thoughts here about this catastrophe with ATMP 50th, it really is A PITY!
I thought you'd be hot on the apple jam, coz it was Derek and Dominoes history
Hi John, what is your favourite beatles cover song? mine is Carol Carpenter ticket to ride. Have you heard Frankie Miller cover version of cold turkey?
I just watched a music reactor view 'Handle With Care' by the Traveling Wilburys for the 1st time, that reminded me of their box set. I trust you own that one, it has both albums each with 2 bonus tracks plus a DVD, a booklet with their fake history and some postcards and a certificate of authenticity. I'd never part with mine.
I feel like the new mix makes the album sound more like a follow-up to Abbey Road than a George solo album. The production is very Beatle-like which of course is a mixed bag because the Beatles production was a mixed bag. I think the songs that sound most like Beatles numbers sound best along with the quieter tunes, which the least Beatle sounding songs such as Hear Me Lord, Awaiting on you All, let it down etc. work better with that bigger Spector production.
I prefer the Beatles Giles Martin remixes in most scenarios and I think this is reminiscent of that, even though he wasn’t involved.
I've enjoyed this remix in much the same way I've enjoyed "Let It Be, Naked" in the past. The removal of Specter's Wall of Sound provides a whole new listening experience which I quite enjoy. I wouldn't necessarily say it's better than the original but it is most interesting and the vinyl edition, which I bought, sounds terrific. Nice discussion, John.
Hi John- i was really excited when i heard the first release “all things must pass” single. It sounded so fresh, clean and stripped back, and without a lot of the massive reverb etc. But i must say, hearing the remix, though it sounds clearer and better, theres still a lot of the reverb especially on the drums and on the heavier songs. I was hoping for more of the stripping back, it would have been cool. They should have been more daring in this respect and made something more different. If you want the original then listen to that.
For those saying that the album mix as it was released it 1970 was what George wanted, and therefore that renders this new mix as worse and "unofficial", this is simply not true. George stated that when the album was released he was happy with how it sounded, but as time went on he thought the Spectre esque production had aged worse for wear and he wanted to pursue stripping down the tracks and removing the "wall of sound" embellishments. He had started work on this before his death in 2001, however the technology simply was not there yet to achieve what he wanted. This new mix is simply an effort to fulfill the wishes of George himself.
The album or boxes do not say who plays what.
John I tend to agree that this is best Beatle solo album with Band on the Run which is a near perfect pop record a close 2nd. Very close to that are Ram , Plastic Ono Band and Imagine so nearly all the best solo albums came just after the break up
I really wish the Harrison camp would follow Dylan's lead and just issue archive releases like the bootleg series and leave the back catalog alone. There is no need to remix George's back catalog. It is already brilliantly produced. Only Somewhere in England needs fixing and that's only to add the original track listing. This is a novelty mix and I think it will help people appreciate the Spector production more as a result. An insightful review John. If I were to recommend a format it would be hi res download 1st (HD tracks), vinyl 2nd then CD 3rd. Hi res sounds more dynamic. CD sounds way too compressed.
Buy more records and less t shirts John 😂 the vinyl sounds brilliant
Hands up, I am returning to the best Beatles solo album chestnut. No other Beatles solo album covers all of the music genres so brilliantly. For instance, the Plastic Ono Band has few lighter moments, Band on the Run lacks a classic McCartney ballad etc, etc.
Love your channel but the sound is always a bit subpar. But of echo in that room.
So first point of the remix/reissue was to confound the bootleggers and reclaim the material that the bootleggers made their profits on; job done. Second point about the project is the issuing of the bonus material that nobody knew about; job done. Thirdly; there was always a limited amount of 'de-Spectorisation' possible, once done it was a matter of knowing how far to go and how much it would divide the public; job half done. Sleeve notes problems not resolved; job not done. After that there was the issue of how it would sound on different modern digital media, from Spotify to youtube/MP3 to standard CD to vinyl to Blu-ray to ultra high rez download, listen to the lower end of the quality spectrum and you will wonder what the fuss was about.
i would rather wait until you get a physical version like the 8 lp set to listen to instead a digital clou like spotify.
Nice for collectors and nice to hear demos but the originals are so burnt into your brain it is hard to accept a different slant on many tracks IMO.
To me the main difference with this new mix is that they have increased the vocals, drums, and bass. Some of tracks benefit and some don't. I thought "Art of Dying" was the best improvement. The others I am half new mix half old mix. "My Sweet Lord," "All Things," and "If Not For You" I much prefer the old mix. The highlight of the set for me are the outtakes and demos. Those sound great because there is no problem of how to handle the Phil Spector production.
This new version sounds so much better. Spector made it sound like the album was recorded in a 44 gallon drum. It now sounds fresh and clear.
Listened to it last night
Listening on Spotify is not the way to listen to make a review
The Apple Jams are fantastic
TURN IT UP LOUD!!
Does anyone regularly play the jam sides? Bit like Revolution no 9 which I skip
Oh sir Frankie crisp 😂
I think Jeff Lynne should have done the mix.
Bobby Whitlock rips the 50 year album. Would like to hear your comments on that.
Just the vinyl
@@allthingsfrench1391 yes.
Watch Bobby Whitlock u-tube video’s. He tells all and knows all. He was there on every song. Bobby is the gospel on this album.
In Bobby’s mind
@@edwardrussell5989 no just the facts. Bobby didn’t lie. He doesn’t embellish to make himself feel better. He speaks the truth with facts to prove.
Bobby Whitlock and his wife coco. Honestly, I'm sick and tired of them.
Lyrics to I Dig Love seemed more fitting for the time. Comes off kind of hippie-ish now. But I still dig that song:) I've heard a bunch of the re-mix songs. Some sound cleaner. But, I also think the original may be what I stay with. To me, the re-mix of My Sweet Lord is not great. Lost its "epic" appeal. And George's vocals sound like a rough demo placed over the original recording.
I find that the best video hosts always open with a cough.
Wait a minute, you can’t tell the difference between a George Harrison solo and an Eric Clapton solo?…Really? So, what have you been listening to all your life, flugelhorn music?
so is it clapton or harrison on hear me lord….think george but do tell me as the sleevenotes surely won’t
Bobby Whitlock needs to get off the fence when speaking about this 😬
I'm getting a little tired of all these re-mixes. The originals were great weren't they? I bought the Abbey Road re-mix by Giles Martin and aside from a slight boost in the backing vocals on Oh Darling didn't think there was much to it. As for best solo Beatles, I'd go with ATMP even with the jam on it. Imagine and POB running a close second.
I have to completely disagree with you. The apple jam disc is a great bonus to have. It should not even be considered when rating the album. It's a completely separate thing. If you're rating the album lower because of that then don't bother to make rating videos. The Jams are a separate thing
It was sold in the UK as a triple album & priced as such. Therefore the jam disc was considered integral to the release & not a bonus record, so has to be considered when looking at the overall quality of All Things Must Pass as a LP!
As much as I've tried, All Things has never really appealed to me. It's kind of predictable, and even repetitive and boring (eg "My Sweet Lord"), compared with Beatles stuff. However, your video prompted me to have a listen to each song to see how it relates to your comments, which has been interesting. I know you disagree, but I've now got a track I love on this album, which is, "Isn't it a Pity Version 2" - quite sublime, especially with the "off-kilter" piano.
Not sure I agree about Wah Wah, listen to it side by side with the original and it’s clear as day which one is superior. The remix sounds like a monitor mix or something.
people are saying you have to listen on a high def web site
The new mix really sucks. Bobby Whitlock has so much background on all of the sessions. Too bad they did not ask him . Would be great to know who played on what. Save your had earned $$$. NOT WORTH IT..
Sincerely hope they do the same for all of his albums, however I wouldn't be surprised if they skipped 17 years and did cloud nine and no others. Would especially be a shame to miss albums like material world and self titled, which are superior to ATMP
People complain about the 80s sound on Cloud 9. Next up will probably be another best of, then silence until the 60th of ATMP. the estate disrespects Georges catalog.
@@ronfowlermusic yeah it's a shame, session outtakes from dark horse/ extra texture would be really interesting but you're right about their disrespect towards those albums
i hate this new mix its lifeless the heart and soul has gone out of it only played a thew tracks what a let down cant see me playing it again
A lot of people are saying that including Bobby Whitlock.
Don't know that I hate the new mix, but definitely sanitized. Definitely doesn't improve on the original.
What! Lifeless and the heart and soul is gone out of it, really? I don't think you're playing the new remix.
@@briandillon8041 Right??! I saw his rant
@@briandillon8041 Saw his recent rant. I mean he HATES it w/ a passion. He's seriously dissapointed. Boy oh boy..
Mary Evans is still alive?