@@mattweller No it doesn't. Scamming is wrong, and everyone is susceptible to it. You may enjoy that it happened to Logan, as do a lot of people honestly, but the act of scamming is still wrong.
@@ElTestok Regardless, Logan most likely bought into this knowing the cards were fake as a marketing stunt to promote Prime, because he probably knew that this would be big news. He may have lost 3.5 million but he made hundreds back, he didn't lose shit
You could see the guy was trying to say as little as possible afterward. Little doubt that he will be fired in order for the company to save face. Of anyone, he's the guy to fall on the sword in order for the company to save whatever face they have left with the public
Love how the “authenticators” were quick to say “We ALL got duped. Agreed?” Like no, they got duped because YOU and YOUR company put YOUR seal of approval on a box you knew nothing about. The first guy would not have paid $2.7 million if they hadn’t authenticated it. So no, everyone didn’t get duped, Baseball Card Exchange. You did. Logan and the other guy took you at your professional guarantee that this box was real.
Wow this is literally so crazy. I just started my Pokemon collection and I am just shocked at how many scammers there are! Thank you for uploading these scammer vids to educate us :)
I feel bad for the guy. Hes getting roasted for bringing the hobby back to life. He got to a point where he be able to spend his $ on anything and chose Pokemon. But just cause we talking about it, that means Logan wears a wake chain haha
So obviously fake, I love how the authentication company says “we all got duped” trying to spread the blame to others😂 the company who authenticated this does not know anything about Pokémon. They just lost all the credibility…sad
The industry is moving on to computer graded cards. The writing is already on the wall. I like to use the taxi driver having no idea how fast uber was going to completely take over the market.
rich people do it all the time, since most collectibles actually appraise in value over time. Its called an investment. Paintings and high end cars are just for that.
You cant comprehend size, time, or distance yet we all use our brains to measute them daily. Rich people are in a different measurement beyond our comprehension because we are based in our own reality. They are based in theirs. They make 3.5m in a month. We wont see 3.5m usually ever. Even if adding up 40 years of solid work.
@@Kai_soze and your point is? What in life have they achieved that actually made a difference in the world…0. He’s made little to no contribution to society , has scammed people, only blew up because “ the suicide forest video” he should have been canceled then.
It's okay, he probably made all that back plus some (assuming he actually even paid that much) from youtube videos on it + ppl who subscribed to him over the incident.
Imagine that first guy who sold it for 75k doing a watch party for this. “Hey guys, they’re gonna open that case, get ready for the best reaction ever!” 😂
The authenticator guy had no idea what he was talking about or was in on the fix. I work in shipping, specifically at a label factory at that and it’s common for labels or tape to get worn into the box in the mail. One day in ups hands and you’re packaging could look like that. Oh and we could make those labels right now lol
The big question is why didn't. pokerev figure this out before rattle? Pokerev is an experienced pokemon card collector and has seen first edition packs before
the fact that a major point of the owner of BBCE is that "the wear on the label is consistent" is a massive red flag. if you get a box, put a label on it, then rub the box against another piece of cardboard for even 15 minutes, you will get the exact wear he is talking about, even though he says its basically a 100% guarantee its original. all that wear can prove is that the label hasnt been removed, which is why we would do it before shipping guitars that are worth 10-15k when i worked in a guitar wearhouse.
I don't know how you authenticate a box being real without looking at previous examples of old-school pokemon boxes. If they did that they would have seen so many things wrong with this box. That alone makes me never want to trust this "Authenticating company".
When you scream GI-Joe hahahah too funny. I was dying when someone said, "Why is it puffy?" You can see LP hiding his face so much, trying not to laugh haha.
@@porcojerme.336 thats why its hard to verify cases. You wont be 100% sure its real until you open it but opening it takes away some of its value. Part of the reason why stuff like this is very controversial.
@@porcojerme.336 Why is it that a reputable company couldn't open the box to verify, reseal and put stamp of approval...if they verified it was all there and legit, and that was the only reason and time that it was opened, should it lower the value?
Well ill speak for all Canadians when i say: Although the box might be fake, we as a country wish everyone in the Pokemon community an authentic Canadian "Sorry".
A kick to the ultra balls. Any "authenticator", from the moment that lid flap opened, would have *instantaneously* known, quicker than a transfer to Bill's PC. The discoloration was telling enough.
I legit lost it at work when they opened the box and it was G.I. Joe cards 😂 honestly kudos to the person that was able to fool everyone and pull this off 🤣
I litterally saw Logan Paul's video on this like an hour ago, i feel extremely bad for what happened, I mean, for someone like me who dreams of but can't afford a base set booster box (14 yo saddness) for a fraud like that. It's unforgivable
I know that feeling bro. I’m just a kid and I bought a Champions Path ETB for $100 worth of allowance, and it was fake with not returns. Packs were resealed, and there was not promo.
It was depressing to watch Logan Paul getting scammed. He could of called you up on speed dail for you being an expert on vintage before dropping $3.5 million...
@@ikitclaw4852 The truth is much more crazy than that. In reality Logan Paul purchased this box to delegitimize the BBCE so that all sports cards and TCG cards tank in value. Now everyone will question the authenticity and dump sealed pokemon booster boxes for cheap. Logan Paul will buy them and than he can do many box openings and have more sealed 1st edition boxes than Gary(King Pokemon). Once he had sold all these boxes he will have more money than anyone in the world. Part 2 is his plan is to use that money to build spaceships that will go out into the solar system. Why the solar system? So he can become not only the biggest influencer in our world but the whole universe. That Logan Paul is smart but we zoomers are not that dumb. We can look into stuff.🤔
As an Amazon driver who sees labels daily. They embed into boxes from stacking and weight. I deliver packages that have been labeled a day prior with embedded labels. That's not a good indicator.
There needs to be stricter prosecution on stuff like this. I have a guy locally trying to sell a base set box for $350.. While we all know its fake he will probably get someone.. I really wish there wasn't so much fake stuff out there. In my eyes theft is one of the worst crimes and theft by deception is even worse. You are literally taking money from someone that worked hard to earn it. There is nothing lower in my opinion. I was always brought up knowing you are only as good as your word.
As a Canadian that has boughten vintage WOTC within Canada I can say it really isn’t all that bad. You just have to be incredibly careful regardless, I don’t know how Logan didn’t know this was fake months ago or get it verified before paying. Another good video Rev, gotta deal with people like you who know what they’re talking about!
Great video, Rev. Fun summary and reactions. One look at the inside and you could see it wasn't real. That feeling of being scammed, it sucks. Thank goodness, Logan took one for the team and had this case opened. Imagined if he had left it sealed. "We all got duped." -- for so many reasons. The authentication company only authenticated that the box was sealed. Not the actual wrapper - which looks to be modern and not from that era. Not the markings on the box, etc. Just that the box was sealed. Yes, it was. "From looking at it, there's nothing suspicious about the outside of the case." And that would be incorrect. Shout out to Rattle! And to Rattle's team of internet detectives demonstrating how much was wrong with the case, the story behind it, and the reality check that you can't authenticate something you cannot see.
Canadian here ! I get scammed far more with weighted packs, resealed packs. Pre opened and swapped boxes from America ! Not once have i got fake product here. Must be country vs country swap issue.
I feel like this was all for advertisement for his new product. It even begins with it. The more I watch this video the more Logan's behavior feels disingenuous Logan has done a _ton_ of crap that's unethical or borderline in order to make some cash. This wouldn't be shocking if he had suspicions and just used this as a news catching advertisement
@@whitestguyuknow if you really think Logan somehow persuaded or bribed that eligible sports authentication service into following his little “mastermind plan” as you are accusing, he would be the next Elon musk by now
@@whitestguyuknow This news has been out long before Prime even launched. Keep in mind that these videos are all filmed and edited way in advance. It’s not like this took like a couple nights lol. This was several months to a year+ in the making. Takes time to coordinate and organize all the right people and things.
it was sold from Canada for $75k.Americans just thought it'd be nice to pass it around for profit and not authenticating it first before it got this big.and that guys who sold it from Canada should get investigated ,wont be surprised if CIA(canadian intel) will dabble in this.
Scamming sucks. We can all agree on that. Having had a little taste of his own medicine, maybe Logan should consider giving the money back to all the people who invested into his crypto zoo scam? Surely that's what he's going to do, right? ...Right?
Holy Toledo! 😱😭🤬 WooooW!!! What in the actual! G I JOE!!! NOOOOOOOO!!! I know his pain. When I was about 13 my entire Pokémon collection was stolen by a family friend… whose car was miraculously repaired soon after the collection went missing. It was Yu-Gi-Oh cards too like the important ones. I value my stolen Pokémon cards at well over 2 million. I had so many 1st edition Charizards, Blastoises, Venusaurs, Alakazams, Mewtwos, and so many rare promos as I traveled state to state for an entire year… set me back my 6th grade year actually. I know there was at least a handful of 1st edition Charizards worthy of a BGS 10. They sold my cards for probably under 5k when they could’ve bought me a house today. I spent so many hours organizing, and opening booster after booster. To think if I would’ve even just held onto some of the unopened boosters until now… 🤦♂️ it’s sad, but embarrassing. My final batch of Pokémon, and Yu-Gi-Oh cards got stolen in Phoenix Arizona when I was a teenager dating a girl I should’ve trusted less… that had friends I shouldn’t have trusted at all.. I will one day own another 1st edition base set Charizard! Of that I have no doubt! Yet my favorite is a tie with Hypno, and Venusaur. The Hypno card was so beautiful with its purple foil, and Venusaur is gorgeous with its original green foil. It really is insane how beautiful these cards are. Like the entire original lineup of Holofoils is Epic! No one will ever get a better feeling than opening up a pack and pulling a Blastoise! Thank you for your uploads! May the Pokémon Gods put another 1st edition Base Set Box 📦 in your hands 🙌 🔜
Everyone involved with this should be ashamed of themselves, from top to bottom. They all got caught up in the money and clout, and Logan clearly has more money than any one person needs, judging by how carelessly he spends it. The whole thing is an embarrassment. Logan will get his money back. He's got too much power in the industry. The guy who bought it from CardKahuna for $2.7m probably won't. The bald guy is the real getting scammed here. He really should have done his due diligence though. But BBCE should have never authenticated it. Shame on everyone.
You cannot blame Logan Paul... he bought it with the verification of a long term authentication company. The company itself should really take all the blame for it since its their stamp of approval. Otherwise, what service are they actually selling?
I'm Canadian, and it sucks to see that some of the fakes are coming out from here. Luckily I have a card shop really close to me that I've been buying from the last couple months and nothing has seemed sketchy about it, and also I have a Gamestop 20 minutes away that I get from sometimes. But honestly it's seeming like the fakes are just vintage packs which isn't that surprising. I mean, everyone wants their hands on some vintage Pokemon cards and every place is gonna have some people who sell fake ones.
It still blows my mind that these are the people who *grade for PSA* 😳 It's also funny/weird that the owner of BBCE - *the company that PSA outsources to* - isn't immediately more remorseful. Also the 2nd employee states: _"this is the biggest forgery in Pokémon history"_ like it was the best forgery ever seen... *when the case has the wrong damn barcode on* 😂 how do they have jobs 😂😂
As a Pokémon card collector I will say that would suck big time but the fact it happened to Logan Paul makes me laugh…..I will consider it karma for some of the insanely bad crap he did. That’s a shame though. Those boxes are an awesome set.
The beginning of this video was just comedy HAHA Rev: It’s not funny No one: Rev: *continues laughing as hard and loud as possible* LMAOOO I replayed that part 10+x 😂😂😂😂
They were making fake Pokemon cards immediately after they hit the news as a hype new thing. They even mention robbing a Pokemon Card truck in Sopranos! 😅
Listening to these guys talk about the Stop Tape and labeling on the box to justify why it was authentic is painful, and as if those two thing's can't be replicated by anyone with a thermal printer, 10$ to spend on amazon and the ability to heat & throw a box around and make it look aged. It took a youtuber literally a few hours to notice that the tape was inconsistent with other cases and that almost every part of the label, including its fade, size and contents were off and all he had to go off of was still images and videos. Yet, these guys that verifying millions of dollars of materials even outside of this case we're easily fooled and just put their stamp of approval on it for a quick sale. It's pathetic and I really hope PSA will sever ties with them. Worst part of the entire video was hearing the guy say "we can agree we've all been fooled". No dude, just you and your company were duped by not doing even a shred of due diligence on a box worth millions of dollars.
also if im looking for authenticity it wouldint be through a company that checks for Sport boxes/cards but also u cannot verify a box 100% without checking its context to
If it was real i feel really bad for logan and the commmunity, but every part of me is saying this is a big fake, everything in this video seemed too telegraphed, almosted scripted and unnatural. There is alot of money surrounding this purchase and the way they 'acted' seemed so off, especially the people around logan. Until this video i believed logan but now i can't look at this video and believe this was real.
Except BCE wouldn’t want to do this on purpose haha. It seems that way to you Because Logan is a very smart marketer and has dropped this video at the exact time he wanted just after his drink launch.
It freaking sucks so much, getting scammed is just so fubar. I really hope that they can track down and maybe eventually stop fakes in some way or another.
Then you need to move on or grow a pair. You sound like a little girl. I’m 14 and can tell you are weak. Just like my step dad. That’s why my mom cheats on him. You are weak like him
Can someone please explain why buyers (and Authenticators) risk buying sealed cases, as the value is not in the sealed outer case, but in the sealed wizard of the coast boxes. Also, Logan was never not going to open the outer case so why risk it? I just don’t get it, and it defies logic, which makes me edge towards it all being a massive publicity stunt.
I almost don't feel bad for him. He's been known to use bad sources in the past. When is he going to learn? "I got the money I'll just buy it off one small company's word." Like just cuz you can afford it doesn't mean you should jump on it instantly with very little investigation
9:28 lololool 😂The look Logan gives at the baseball card expert and the guy can't even look back at Logan 😂😂😂Moments later he turns over and says "We all got dupped...agreed" lolol I'm dead🙃
I genuinely don't like Logan Paul, just not my type of content creator or person in general really. That said, I feel bad for him. No one deserves to get scammed period, and on that scale it's just insane. The only good that comes out of this is maybe better awareness. However, I also hope with his money/resources he takes the effort to dig into this (contact Rattle Pokemon, he's done most the work already) and finds the people responsible and some kind of justice can be done to make sure they can't do this again.
In my honest opinion.. could this be a ploy to keep his name in the media of Pokemon.. this could be a big "hahaha got you" but for real if the man did truly honestly get scammed, I really feel for him. Because if I had the money he has I would be buying these nostalgic boxes to relive those memories of being young and I would be completely torn apart if this is real and if it was me in his shoes. If this is real he handles it way better than what I would of.
100%, he's an entertainer. He likely netted an insane amount of $$$ from the whole ordeal so I highly doubt anyone in the "influencer sphere" of Logan and the likes are authentic about anything. Cynical take surely, but the whole thing seems reasonably well acted mind you, but acted nevertheless.
@@AndrewCarrasco wrong. This was at the height of the market last year when boxes were still worth 400k. That was the biggest red flag and why no body actually winded up getting it on ebay. That was everyones thought who saw it. The guy who won ebay bid wudnt buy it cus they wudnt let him fly in to canada to see it. The second guy he found was from insta and had the bbce people with then when it arrived
@@AndrewCarrasco bro it was sold this year. Anyone touching this box should have opened it and done that themselves after knowing the sketchy origin story. They scammed everyone and got it authenticated to buy themselves time from when it sold and when it was opened.
Omg can't believe that there's people out there that would destroy our childhood memories with fake pokemon cards heartless Bastards I hope and pray these people are caught 🙏 it's sooo sad 😔
8:48 - Agreed, i recently got scammed twice in one month. First with a xy evolutions booster box and 2nd with a fake pokemon funko pop holiday calender and let me tell ya, it aint 3.5m dollars but it sure hurts, especially after saving for so long to afford a booster box!!!
Won pack #25 from Logan Paul's Christmas 1st edition Shadowless booster box 36 pack giveaway from Puerto Rico on his Whatnot stream. There were 14K watching and got lucky and won the pack. No holo or Zard, but still extremely happy either way. Got the cards last week. Thank goodness the booster was real. It was purchased from the Heritage Auction.
The best part is when the “Authenticator” said they all could agree on getting scammed and nobody agreed LOL nah homie that’s 100% your fault you’re literally the authenticator you bozo LOL
He scams people all the time. What goes around comes around.
doesnt make it right tho
@@rykersutton9547 yes it does
@@mattweller No it doesn't. Scamming is wrong, and everyone is susceptible to it.
You may enjoy that it happened to Logan, as do a lot of people honestly, but the act of scamming is still wrong.
@rykersutton9547 it makes it funny because it happen to someone that nobody cares about 🤣
@@ElTestok Regardless, Logan most likely bought into this knowing the cards were fake as a marketing stunt to promote Prime, because he probably knew that this would be big news. He may have lost 3.5 million but he made hundreds back, he didn't lose shit
The worst part is that Baseball Card Exchange verified it as authentic. I don't know how you restore faith in your company after something like that.
You don't 🤣 they are fuckkkeddd
But they only verified as authentic based on the outside of the box / tape and labeling etc… not off the contents from the inside.
@@InventSmeLa damage is done...
You could see the guy was trying to say as little as possible afterward. Little doubt that he will be fired in order for the company to save face. Of anyone, he's the guy to fall on the sword in order for the company to save whatever face they have left with the public
Damn never really liked Logan Paul but 3.5 million dollars is a lot of money, just to be scammed
Love how the “authenticators” were quick to say “We ALL got duped. Agreed?” Like no, they got duped because YOU and YOUR company put YOUR seal of approval on a box you knew nothing about. The first guy would not have paid $2.7 million if they hadn’t authenticated it.
So no, everyone didn’t get duped, Baseball Card Exchange. You did. Logan and the other guy took you at your professional guarantee that this box was real.
then he stared at Logan for like 5minutes waiting for his approval
@@statrunner For real though and Logan didn’t even look at him.
Never a 100% guarantee though or it wouldn’t be a stressful buy.
I bet this guy received quiet an incentive to “authenticate” the box smh. This whole deal was rotten to the core.
Exactly.
So a scammer gets scammed by another scammer? I'd say that's karma right there
And the cycle will continue soon
Bro just found about this and is commenting this lol
@@azmadeclutch9666 Bro has a life lol
Nope, it was all a scam by Logan
@@azmadeclutch9666 This isn't the flex that you think it is
Wow this is literally so crazy. I just started my Pokemon collection and I am just shocked at how many scammers there are! Thank you for uploading these scammer vids to educate us :)
Always, just do plenty of research prior and trust your gut. If it is too good to be true it probably is.
The company that verified it as authentic is going to have to gain some trust back
They are fucked, a bad smear on their reputation
u like pokemon im a huge fan of u
They won’t. As famous as Logan is and how much money was spent How could the “average” collector trust them with their money?
I feel bad for the guy. Hes getting roasted for bringing the hobby back to life. He got to a point where he be able to spend his $ on anything and chose Pokemon. But just cause we talking about it, that means Logan wears a wake chain haha
@@2UGamingProductions The hobby was back to life already from other people. He just jumped on the train and made it even bigger.
So obviously fake, I love how the authentication company says “we all got duped” trying to spread the blame to others😂 the company who authenticated this does not know anything about Pokémon. They just lost all the credibility…sad
They don't know much about sports cards either. The worst part is, I think they help PSA do their authentication.
Those “authenticators” are the biggest frauds of all.
PSA its a fraud too
They’re reputation is done, finished
@@gigagamers859 You are blind?
The industry is moving on to computer graded cards. The writing is already on the wall. I like to use the taxi driver having no idea how fast uber was going to completely take over the market.
@@kevinclear4007 Uber doesnt over price they service like PSA does
They talked about how the box had signs of age etc, but how do they know that this wasn't just a box of fakes from the 90's?
My man really said the emblem is embedded into the cardboard from where it’s been on there so long …. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I honestly can't imagine being so rich that you can just casually drop $3.5 million on a collectible, fake or not.
rich people do it all the time, since most collectibles actually appraise in value over time. Its called an investment. Paintings and high end cars are just for that.
You cant comprehend size, time, or distance yet we all use our brains to measute them daily. Rich people are in a different measurement beyond our comprehension because we are based in our own reality. They are based in theirs. They make 3.5m in a month. We wont see 3.5m usually ever. Even if adding up 40 years of solid work.
Benefits of being an industry plant. but in all honesty its just a facade.
Logan Paul could do that 5 times over and still not be broke
@@Kai_soze and your point is? What in life have they achieved that actually made a difference in the world…0. He’s made little to no contribution to society , has scammed people, only blew up because “ the suicide forest video” he should have been canceled then.
I remember when I got duped for $275 dollars....made me SICK to my stomach. Could not IMAGINE this lol
The most expensive pack I oppened was approx. $25,(Since im a new collector) luckily they were real. Anyways rip to your $275.
That’s why you use a credit card and chargeback.
It's okay, he probably made all that back plus some (assuming he actually even paid that much) from youtube videos on it + ppl who subscribed to him over the incident.
@Vyxel He probably made that much back and more just for his few WWE appearances last year. 😂
$275 IS PENNIES, GET YOUR MONEY UP FAM
He should honestly sue the company that verified it.
Didn’t do his own research.
@@eddieford8676 disagree. The whole point of getting it authenticated is that they do the research and put their name on the line.
hopefully they had insurance lol
Someone will - Logan’s getting his money back, but down the line someone won’t and they’ll have to sue most likely
@@Joshuwaaa no can tell you what’s inside of a closed box. Jesus, people are so dumb these days. The guy doesn’t have x-ray vision
Man it sucks but it's comedy how hard poke rev laughed once he seen it was gi joe😂😂
I think he had seen the video before
Imagine that first guy who sold it for 75k doing a watch party for this. “Hey guys, they’re gonna open that case, get ready for the best reaction ever!” 😂
I think he knew they were fake before he bought them. Made sure he could get his money back. And only purchased for a video. Smart really
Yeah, half the time you can see hes trying not to smile. He knew it would get views.
Exactly 💯
Its a joke everything was setup😂
Tbh i think it was pretty funny love it
Yeh 💯 agree that’s the first thing I thought he tricks us 😂
Man, next time I spend over $1,000,000 for Pokémon cards, I’m gonna be so careful
me who debates spending 5 dollars for pikachu card
@@buji07 lol same
Bruh these dudes got too much money 😂😂 good for them but I can’t help but laugh when they get scammed
@@gregordrizzlewing7339 🤣😂😂😂
@@shadowsmith1386 not even in a rude way they get the money back more time there face is just hilarious 😂😂
The authenticator guy had no idea what he was talking about or was in on the fix. I work in shipping, specifically at a label factory at that and it’s common for labels or tape to get worn into the box in the mail. One day in ups hands and you’re packaging could look like that. Oh and we could make those labels right now lol
For real lol, one day kicking around on a warehouse floor and it would look like that.
It's Logan Paul.. its probably a scam
Big up Rattle. His work on this was outstanding. He's the real MVP
The big question is why didn't. pokerev figure this out before rattle? Pokerev is an experienced pokemon card collector and has seen first edition packs before
@@GigaQuantum Rattle has been in the hobby longer.
Pokerev should give credits to Rattle at beginning of the video
Logan Paul is garbage
This UA-camr makes better videos
ua-cam.com/video/lA_XtwHLtxk/v-deo.html
Hell yes!
the fact that a major point of the owner of BBCE is that "the wear on the label is consistent" is a massive red flag. if you get a box, put a label on it, then rub the box against another piece of cardboard for even 15 minutes, you will get the exact wear he is talking about, even though he says its basically a 100% guarantee its original. all that wear can prove is that the label hasnt been removed, which is why we would do it before shipping guitars that are worth 10-15k when i worked in a guitar wearhouse.
Maybe he knows how all the people he scammed feel now
On behalf of all cold blooded, maple syrup drinking Canadians, we do not claim the scammers and fake boxes coming out of Canada 🇨🇦
@Carlieto'way lol 🤣
Lol yeah I'm Canadian. Sucks to see that some fakes are coming out from here
What does maple syrup taste like?
@@Ben7x26 I don't drink it whole, that's gross honestly, but it's amazing on pancakes or waffles
@@leegaming4854 but what does it takes like?
I don't know how you authenticate a box being real without looking at previous examples of old-school pokemon boxes. If they did that they would have seen so many things wrong with this box. That alone makes me never want to trust this "Authenticating company".
The Pokémon box was inside the brown box
the authenticator had the audacity to look around and say "~we~ all got duped. Agreed?"
He was hoping for the "yup" from Logan to use that in court later when his ass gets sued
Lmao the way Logan says, “GI JOE!” sounds like there’s past trauma there 😂
When you scream GI-Joe hahahah too funny. I was dying when someone said, "Why is it puffy?" You can see LP hiding his face so much, trying not to laugh haha.
The company who verified it was “legit” should also be held accountable.
legally they can't be liable
How exactly would they know 100% without opening the case.
@@bradleymarchand560 idk, but if they weren't sure it was 100% real, ¿why verify it' s real?
@@porcojerme.336 thats why its hard to verify cases. You wont be 100% sure its real until you open it but opening it takes away some of its value. Part of the reason why stuff like this is very controversial.
@@porcojerme.336 Why is it that a reputable company couldn't open the box to verify, reseal and put stamp of approval...if they verified it was all there and legit, and that was the only reason and time that it was opened, should it lower the value?
Well ill speak for all Canadians when i say: Although the box might be fake, we as a country wish everyone in the Pokemon community an authentic Canadian "Sorry".
Just tell me how maple syrup tastes. I want to know..
can someone authenticate this sorry??
@@Ben7x26 good
I as another Canadian Agree with this apology. Please forgive us for our sin.
EY BUDDY COME ON FWEIND
never wouldve thought g i joe prices would be in the millions thats krazy
This seems very fake. Logan Paul’s acting is really bad.
It's actually great that Logan Paul got scamed, what are you people crying about?
A kick to the ultra balls. Any "authenticator", from the moment that lid flap opened, would have *instantaneously* known, quicker than a transfer to Bill's PC. The discoloration was telling enough.
Sooo if Logan was even half knowledgeable about the topic he would have too. Sooo
I legit lost it at work when they opened the box and it was G.I. Joe cards 😂 honestly kudos to the person that was able to fool everyone and pull this off 🤣
1991 G.I Joe cards go for 11$ a pack pack. 1986 card packs I don't know what they go for. A case from 1987 600$ US.
@@DrMuttmen9 whats your point?
I litterally saw Logan Paul's video on this like an hour ago, i feel extremely bad for what happened, I mean, for someone like me who dreams of but can't afford a base set booster box (14 yo saddness) for a fraud like that. It's unforgivable
What comes around goes around. The guys been pumping worthless cryptos all year.
shawn i don’t feel bad for anyone that thought that box was real
I mean if they did their due diligence (which some other UA-camr already did), they wouldn't gave gotten scammed.
Are you seriously feeling sorry for a douchebag?
Trigon: I may be the source of all darkness but you are your own worst enemies. LOL
" We all got duped, agreed?" - What a responsible person.
I know that feeling bro. I’m just a kid and I bought a Champions Path ETB for $100 worth of allowance, and it was fake with not returns. Packs were resealed, and there was not promo.
It was depressing to watch Logan Paul getting scammed. He could of called you up on speed dail for you being an expert on vintage before dropping $3.5 million...
@Clapsaddle I made a video on it discussing that theory actually. LP already made $6k on his he got scammed video.
@@charizardchaser Holy crap, the video did that well?
@@kadensesay8056 Yes, average of every 1k views = $5. His video is already 1.2 million views; 1.2k x $5 = $6k
@Clapsaddle lol imagine going onto every Logan comment, commenting the same stuff, calling zoomer generation doomed, get a life nerd
@@ikitclaw4852 The truth is much more crazy than that. In reality Logan Paul purchased this box to delegitimize the BBCE so that all sports cards and TCG cards tank in value. Now everyone will question the authenticity and dump sealed pokemon booster boxes for cheap. Logan Paul will buy them and than he can do many box openings and have more sealed 1st edition boxes than Gary(King Pokemon).
Once he had sold all these boxes he will have more money than anyone in the world. Part 2 is his plan is to use that money to build spaceships that will go out into the solar system. Why the solar system? So he can become not only the biggest influencer in our world but the whole universe. That Logan Paul is smart but we zoomers are not that dumb. We can look into stuff.🤔
As an Amazon driver who sees labels daily. They embed into boxes from stacking and weight. I deliver packages that have been labeled a day prior with embedded labels. That's not a good indicator.
There needs to be stricter prosecution on stuff like this. I have a guy locally trying to sell a base set box for $350.. While we all know its fake he will probably get someone.. I really wish there wasn't so much fake stuff out there. In my eyes theft is one of the worst crimes and theft by deception is even worse. You are literally taking money from someone that worked hard to earn it. There is nothing lower in my opinion. I was always brought up knowing you are only as good as your word.
At less he got some Gi Joe Cards
I feel so bad for him but at the same time I can't help but laugh when he opened that booster box 😅
I jumped for joy when it was fake.
@@kitkindy His just deserts for the crypto fraud he has committed.
Not me he's a complete jerk in reality this is karma.
@@RC30018 Same
As a Canadian that has boughten vintage WOTC within Canada I can say it really isn’t all that bad. You just have to be incredibly careful regardless, I don’t know how Logan didn’t know this was fake months ago or get it verified before paying. Another good video Rev, gotta deal with people like you who know what they’re talking about!
Great video, Rev. Fun summary and reactions. One look at the inside and you could see it wasn't real. That feeling of being scammed, it sucks.
Thank goodness, Logan took one for the team and had this case opened. Imagined if he had left it sealed.
"We all got duped." -- for so many reasons. The authentication company only authenticated that the box was sealed. Not the actual wrapper - which looks to be modern and not from that era. Not the markings on the box, etc. Just that the box was sealed. Yes, it was.
"From looking at it, there's nothing suspicious about the outside of the
case." And that would be incorrect. Shout out to Rattle! And to
Rattle's team of internet detectives demonstrating how much was wrong
with the case, the story behind it, and the reality check that you can't
authenticate something you cannot see.
No BBCE authenticated the box to be real and sealed from Wizards of the Coast. The owner of BBCE said it's real and legit. Not just that it's sealed.
Canadian here ! I get scammed far more with weighted packs, resealed packs. Pre opened and swapped boxes from America ! Not once have i got fake product here. Must be country vs country swap issue.
Rev's first reaction "G.I.JOE!!!" LMAO 🤣 GETS ME EVERYTIME
They're all quite silly for trusting a company that works almost completely with sports cards and not Pokemon. I don't feel bad for Logan Paul at all.
I feel like this was all for advertisement for his new product. It even begins with it. The more I watch this video the more Logan's behavior feels disingenuous
Logan has done a _ton_ of crap that's unethical or borderline in order to make some cash. This wouldn't be shocking if he had suspicions and just used this as a news catching advertisement
@@whitestguyuknow it's not this news was out long before prime even launched
He got a full refund so he didn't lose anything. He got 5.4 million views for that video alone so he's doing fine.
@@whitestguyuknow if you really think Logan somehow persuaded or bribed that eligible sports authentication service into following his little “mastermind plan” as you are accusing, he would be the next Elon musk by now
@@whitestguyuknow This news has been out long before Prime even launched. Keep in mind that these videos are all filmed and edited way in advance. It’s not like this took like a couple nights lol. This was several months to a year+ in the making. Takes time to coordinate and organize all the right people and things.
"we all got duped, agreed?" just gotta love how he's trying to cover his ass
Scammer out there living it up!
He's going to jail
@@lokcalslokcalslokcalslokca2406 Is he tho? Doubt it
@@lokcalslokcalslokcalslokca2406 imagine
@@DreBruh 3 and a half million dollars isn't pocket change, it's literally one of the biggest frauds in recent times
it was sold from Canada for $75k.Americans just thought it'd be nice to pass it around for profit and not authenticating it first before it got this big.and that guys who sold it from Canada should get investigated ,wont be surprised if CIA(canadian intel) will dabble in this.
Scamming sucks. We can all agree on that.
Having had a little taste of his own medicine, maybe Logan should consider giving the money back to all the people who invested into his crypto zoo scam?
Surely that's what he's going to do, right?
...Right?
I agree 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
Holy Toledo! 😱😭🤬 WooooW!!! What in the actual! G I JOE!!! NOOOOOOOO!!! I know his pain. When I was about 13 my entire Pokémon collection was stolen by a family friend… whose car was miraculously repaired soon after the collection went missing. It was Yu-Gi-Oh cards too like the important ones.
I value my stolen Pokémon cards at well over 2 million. I had so many 1st edition Charizards, Blastoises, Venusaurs, Alakazams, Mewtwos, and so many rare promos as I traveled state to state for an entire year… set me back my 6th grade year actually. I know there was at least a handful of 1st edition Charizards worthy of a BGS 10. They sold my cards for probably under 5k when they could’ve bought me a house today.
I spent so many hours organizing, and opening booster after booster. To think if I would’ve even just held onto some of the unopened boosters until now… 🤦♂️ it’s sad, but embarrassing. My final batch of Pokémon, and Yu-Gi-Oh cards got stolen in Phoenix Arizona when I was a teenager dating a girl I should’ve trusted less… that had friends I shouldn’t have trusted at all..
I will one day own another 1st edition base set Charizard! Of that I have no doubt! Yet my favorite is a tie with Hypno, and Venusaur. The Hypno card was so beautiful with its purple foil, and Venusaur is gorgeous with its original green foil. It really is insane how beautiful these cards are. Like the entire original lineup of Holofoils is Epic! No one will ever get a better feeling than opening up a pack and pulling a Blastoise! Thank you for your uploads! May the Pokémon Gods put another 1st edition Base Set Box 📦 in your hands 🙌 🔜
Everyone involved with this should be ashamed of themselves, from top to bottom. They all got caught up in the money and clout, and Logan clearly has more money than any one person needs, judging by how carelessly he spends it. The whole thing is an embarrassment.
Logan will get his money back. He's got too much power in the industry. The guy who bought it from CardKahuna for $2.7m probably won't. The bald guy is the real getting scammed here. He really should have done his due diligence though. But BBCE should have never authenticated it. Shame on everyone.
You cannot blame Logan Paul... he bought it with the verification of a long term authentication company. The company itself should really take all the blame for it since its their stamp of approval. Otherwise, what service are they actually selling?
Do you do your due diligence before eating mcdonalds and check all the ingredients are there and it weights the right amount?
@@GigaQuantum If my meals cost $2.7m’s I would
How much does one person need exactly?
@@doubllechief6926 but do you check your burgers for poison? If not you would die
I'm Canadian, and it sucks to see that some of the fakes are coming out from here. Luckily I have a card shop really close to me that I've been buying from the last couple months and nothing has seemed sketchy about it, and also I have a Gamestop 20 minutes away that I get from sometimes. But honestly it's seeming like the fakes are just vintage packs which isn't that surprising. I mean, everyone wants their hands on some vintage Pokemon cards and every place is gonna have some people who sell fake ones.
It still blows my mind that these are the people who *grade for PSA* 😳
It's also funny/weird that the owner of BBCE - *the company that PSA outsources to* - isn't immediately more remorseful.
Also the 2nd employee states: _"this is the biggest forgery in Pokémon history"_ like it was the best forgery ever seen... *when the case has the wrong damn barcode on* 😂 how do they have jobs 😂😂
Fraud* not forgery
@@C9Kreal subtitles say forgery.
You need a hobby.
Not gonna lie putting G I joe in made me laugh so hard
BBCE should get sued for at least 50% of the 3.5million.
The GI Joe song at the end of Logan’s vid was hilarious 😂
Feels like this was all a big publicity stunt.
That’s what I was saying!!!
Fr
It is, it's a sign to start buying Gi-Joe booster packs. Lol
Same!
I don't think BBCE would intentionally discredit their company and reputation.
The sale before Logan can be watched on the The Card Shop Show YT channel. They documented the whole process in two videos about 8 months ago
Scammer got scammed is poetic
The sirens in the background when they collectively knew they were fake boxes was the most apt thing ever haha
As a Pokémon card collector I will say that would suck big time but the fact it happened to Logan Paul makes me laugh…..I will consider it karma for some of the insanely bad crap he did. That’s a shame though. Those boxes are an awesome set.
At what point can a person be forgiven? Sheesh.
grow up lmao
@@abackstreams5086 😂😂😂😂
The beginning of this video was just comedy HAHA
Rev: It’s not funny
No one:
Rev: *continues laughing as hard and loud as possible*
LMAOOO I replayed that part 10+x 😂😂😂😂
Dude spent 3.5 mil on GI Joe cards 😅
So.... does this mean G.I. Joe card values just went through the roof? 😂
They were making fake Pokemon cards immediately after they hit the news as a hype new thing. They even mention robbing a Pokemon Card truck in Sopranos! 😅
Listening to these guys talk about the Stop Tape and labeling on the box to justify why it was authentic is painful, and as if those two thing's can't be replicated by anyone with a thermal printer, 10$ to spend on amazon and the ability to heat & throw a box around and make it look aged.
It took a youtuber literally a few hours to notice that the tape was inconsistent with other cases and that almost every part of the label, including its fade, size and contents were off and all he had to go off of was still images and videos. Yet, these guys that verifying millions of dollars of materials even outside of this case we're easily fooled and just put their stamp of approval on it for a quick sale. It's pathetic and I really hope PSA will sever ties with them.
Worst part of the entire video was hearing the guy say "we can agree we've all been fooled". No dude, just you and your company were duped by not doing even a shred of due diligence on a box worth millions of dollars.
also if im looking for authenticity it wouldint be through a company that checks for Sport boxes/cards but also u cannot verify a box 100% without checking its context to
Well....um....that was unexpected
Waiting for GI Joe cards and packs to inflate in price now because of this lol
I didn't even know they existed until now, which puts them on the map.
😭😭😭😭😭
looking back at this in late 2024, i will say it could not have happened to a more deserving guy
lol this was me when i spent 30$ on some fake booster packs at the flea market 🤣🤣🤣
If it was real i feel really bad for logan and the commmunity, but every part of me is saying this is a big fake, everything in this video seemed too telegraphed, almosted scripted and unnatural. There is alot of money surrounding this purchase and the way they 'acted' seemed so off, especially the people around logan. Until this video i believed logan but now i can't look at this video and believe this was real.
yeah i agree i think this whole fake box thing was scripted
Idk man. How and why would a company like BCE agree to something like this? They don’t gain anything but negative reputation. There’s just no way.
You’re delusional lol
Except BCE wouldn’t want to do this on purpose haha. It seems that way to you Because Logan is a very smart marketer and has dropped this video at the exact time he wanted just after his drink launch.
Yeah but one big flaw with that is that BBCE is now screwed. They wouldn't kill their business to help clout this up surely.
It freaking sucks so much, getting scammed is just so fubar. I really hope that they can track down and maybe eventually stop fakes in some way or another.
Stuff like this has ruined the fun for me
Then you need to move on or grow a pair. You sound like a little girl. I’m 14 and can tell you are weak. Just like my step dad. That’s why my mom cheats on him. You are weak like him
Stop crying about a UA-cam video that impacts you in no way.
@@poke_wounds9175 exactly, he’s following a trend to get attention. It’s annoying. It’s up there with virtue signaling
@@James.1_2-3 bro i meant the fake cards
@@ShadowApples grow-a-pair
Can someone please explain why buyers (and Authenticators) risk buying sealed cases, as the value is not in the sealed outer case, but in the sealed wizard of the coast boxes. Also, Logan was never not going to open the outer case so why risk it? I just don’t get it, and it defies logic, which makes me edge towards it all being a massive publicity stunt.
I actually find it funny that there won't even Pokémon cards in there lol
I always wonder where do all these booster boxes come out of?
factory
I almost don't feel bad for him. He's been known to use bad sources in the past. When is he going to learn? "I got the money I'll just buy it off one small company's word." Like just cuz you can afford it doesn't mean you should jump on it instantly with very little investigation
they're not a small company tho.
I mean you gotta give it to the scammers because that outer box did look legit.
9:28 lololool 😂The look Logan gives at the baseball card expert and the guy can't even look back at Logan 😂😂😂Moments later he turns over and says "We all got dupped...agreed" lolol I'm dead🙃
Surely this is a “Call the Police” situation?
Insane how much of a gamble this is.
Should be a gamble isnthe problem.
I genuinely don't like Logan Paul, just not my type of content creator or person in general really. That said, I feel bad for him. No one deserves to get scammed period, and on that scale it's just insane. The only good that comes out of this is maybe better awareness. However, I also hope with his money/resources he takes the effort to dig into this (contact Rattle Pokemon, he's done most the work already) and finds the people responsible and some kind of justice can be done to make sure they can't do this again.
No one who spends almost 4 million on Pokémon cards they’re clueless about deserves sympathy lol
I don't feel sorry for him he such a total douchebag also he has alot money I'm sure this guy will be fine.
Don’t worry he scammed he’s fan right back
In my honest opinion.. could this be a ploy to keep his name in the media of Pokemon.. this could be a big "hahaha got you" but for real if the man did truly honestly get scammed, I really feel for him. Because if I had the money he has I would be buying these nostalgic boxes to relive those memories of being young and I would be completely torn apart if this is real and if it was me in his shoes. If this is real he handles it way better than what I would of.
Exactly! They did that with the charizard he bought
Exactly what I thought
100%, he's an entertainer. He likely netted an insane amount of $$$ from the whole ordeal so I highly doubt anyone in the "influencer sphere" of Logan and the likes are authentic about anything. Cynical take surely, but the whole thing seems reasonably well acted mind you, but acted nevertheless.
I did not know that PokeRev had a reaction channel we need more
The scammer got scammed. Lmfao.
Poetic Justice
They finessed him 😂 they were all in on it
The Poké Jew must be held accountable and BBCE as well, that company(BBCE) should loose all credibility.
Fax
If it was real why would the original seller sell it for 55,000 when he could open the case and sell each box for half 1 million
Cus back then they weren't as popular
@@AndrewCarrasco wrong. This was at the height of the market last year when boxes were still worth 400k. That was the biggest red flag and why no body actually winded up getting it on ebay. That was everyones thought who saw it. The guy who won ebay bid wudnt buy it cus they wudnt let him fly in to canada to see it. The second guy he found was from insta and had the bbce people with then when it arrived
@@josh-py6lc It was March 2020, not 2021. Pokemon didn’t blow up until Logan’s opening in October 2020
@@josh-py6lc well then...
@@AndrewCarrasco bro it was sold this year. Anyone touching this box should have opened it and done that themselves after knowing the sketchy origin story. They scammed everyone and got it authenticated to buy themselves time from when it sold and when it was opened.
Is it just me that thinks this was all setup by Paul himself? His reaction is sooooo WFC one LOL
The pokemon groups that I'm in would love this. Lol
Hope you get more subscribers. PokeRev
boxes should be authenticated on video by opening them up first and then re sealing them all on video and dated official
Not gonna lie, it does my heart good to see karma in action for once
What karma?
@@jimmietwotime the karma of a shitty person like Logan Paul getting duped for millions after all the shit he’s done. Duh
Omg can't believe that there's people out there that would destroy our childhood memories with fake pokemon cards heartless Bastards I hope and pray these people are caught 🙏 it's sooo sad 😔
Well chill out the Chinese gotta feed their children too
8:48 - Agreed, i recently got scammed twice in one month. First with a xy evolutions booster box and 2nd with a fake pokemon funko pop holiday calender and let me tell ya, it aint 3.5m dollars but it sure hurts, especially after saving for so long to afford a booster box!!!
that's so messed up, this is my worst fear if i ever trade up to big boy vintage collections.
Won pack #25 from Logan Paul's Christmas 1st edition Shadowless booster box 36 pack giveaway from Puerto Rico on his Whatnot stream. There were 14K watching and got lucky and won the pack. No holo or Zard, but still extremely happy either way. Got the cards last week. Thank goodness the booster was real. It was purchased from the Heritage Auction.
Interesting
UA-camr Charizard Chaser posted Logan Paul's Whatnot giveaway stream on his channel on Christmas 2021.
The best part is when the “Authenticator” said they all could agree on getting scammed and nobody agreed LOL nah homie that’s 100% your fault you’re literally the authenticator you bozo LOL
I feel bad to an extent, but he did ruin my hobby for me for a long period of time.... I mean it's horrible, but do I personally feel bad? Not really
I agree 100%
Cant feel bad for a clown legit crypto scamming young people with shit coins
Same here!!! Haven't collected for a long time because of him either
A scammer getting scammed. Sweet Karma.
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