Deadmau5 is honestly equally down to earth, just more abrasive lol. If you do listen to his podcasts, talks and such, even streams hes working on things, whatever your take on him is, you can at least acknowledge, that you WILL learn something from his content
@@kimmyera174 no I never said I don't like him or he's a bad guy. He definitely down to earth, and a great guy. I learn a lot from his videos. He will tell everything he knows, not holding anything back. He's just the way he is, a lot of rant etc.
Well, his whole popularity kicked off with MTV and commercial deals made through the label so idk bout that. l think "Signing a better deal" would have been more reasonable.
Deadmau5 JUST got rights to his older album masters back. Been teasing a vinyl release for Random Album Title. When he said "Don't sign with A Major Label", that came from his soul
@@g.3067 He had ultra rants many years ago on top of the play ones, few on some podcasts, some on his streams, not sure where but they are floating around here on yt somewhere...
Ironically deadmau5 disagrees. Someone trolled him by sending it as a demo (it was all in good humour) and he jokingly went along with it saying things like "oh, what, did he make this on fruityloops or something?". I remember him saying that he did a good job with the melody and from what I could tell his big issues with the track were more on the technical side than anything.
@@SugarW1thC0ffee I notice he has great taste for music pretty terrible taste for artwork and fashion. That’s just my opinion on him though. I also feel like amphetamines inspired most of his work
@@fabiansandoval6132I love that you made this comparison because I always feel like Opus is Prydz’ Strobe. Opus brought me to tears the first time I heard it. But Strobe is just Strobe. On drink champs this is the part where I take a shot.
Neither of them two are house music. Edm yeah and crappy tech trance but not house music . To understand house music you have to go back . That's an old Chicago saying that's been around since 88
@@Victor_386 progressive house 😂 digweed plays progressive house fool dead mouse is EDM and crap if that . Send me any good track by dead mouse and I'll send you a track 20 years ago superior . Good for you kiddies but us oldies prefer quality . Dead mouse just electronic noise.
It's bullshit that deadmau5 doesn't have ownership of his masters. Fuck ultra. With deadmau5 even more impressive producing skills I couldn't imigne how clean and crisp he could make a release or a newly mastered version.
People hate on Joel for his blunt honesty, but seriously... his wisdom in the business and audio engineering is unrivaled. He's not going to feed you a line. He's going to tell you how it is. And if you ask him advice, he's going to give you direct advice without the sugar coating. And he knows more than 80% of the other producers going when it comes to engineering sound. He knows what he's talking about. always.
I see his point but at that time there was no telling that social media would be as big as it is today so there was very few options to get your music ”out there”. Anyone would say yes to a major at that time.
I met with Joel aka deadmau5 when I was 17 years old. He got me an opening at Ultra festival over 11-12 years ago. I wish he told me to safely store my masters. I lost all my masters due to a broken laptop in 2014... I had a baby and lost ambition for music. I recently had discovered health issues so I am inspired to make music again. I studied deadmau5 livestreams for 2 years. I know exactly how he produces music. I flawlessly remade ghost n stuff and Strobe as a training exercise. I made the veldt in real time as deadmau5 was making it live. I sent him a revision with a bell chime melody and he acknowledged it was good and he used the bells. I haven't made music in 10 years. I am now making music again and building my makeshift studio again. I am returning to make original music
@Agent 39 I did a remix of faxing Berlin years ago, I did for the horde community, did it as a Christmas gift because it was like the anniversary of the track, put it out for free for everyone one to enjoy download and share, put some real damn effort into it too, it was quite decent, nothing super big but it wasn't bad, what do I get, I selfless message from play records, shady antics on my accounts, and strikes because of their bad business practices to gate keep their stuff to suck as much money from joels name as much as possible, so word of advice, do not, ever support at play records, in any way or form, there are a fuck ton thousands of other labels out there that are more professional than they are that put out deadmau5 2008 tier tracks with a modern spin, also, a more professional guy did a FREE bootleg years later, you know what they did, they forced him to take it down then re release it on the label, can't wait for the label to disband and Joel to get the rights back to his tracks...
Man this makes me sad because I know mau5 would absolutely polish up those mixes of his classics. When I hear Random Album Title, I can tell the mixes were a bit rough, especially on the low end on some tracks. Still mixed really well, but I can see why he feels they weren’t up to par when you listen back now
Man, even if he doesn't know me- Joel got me through some really, really low times. Even gave me the courage to finally stand up for myself. To this day, I still come back to him when things are horrible.
Deadmau5 can say that now because it looks so easy to be independent. Back when he and Kaskade started out you couldn't just run to TikTok and pay influencers to use your song. Early social media (Myspace days) literally didn't have enough traction. Plus with streaming now even artists that own their master's have to have their song steamed millions of times before they even see $5. Artists want their masters so they can make the same mistake of reselling them to a bigger conglomerate for...... *MONEY*
Deadmau5 other guy I think kaskade has liklihood in carrer foresight focus, that's good!.. or it's taking the easy plannin for a major 1 genius ones just make will make u like wat they want u 2 want labels that like u..
No. 1 reason why we started our own label. No one has ever heard of us , we have no following , just determined about our careers and worth . It’s just about rolling a little bit now but , all along , it was - no - let’s keep ownership over everything we do .
Yeah it's true labels can increase your visibility and give you marketing, but it's a business like any other. I'm sure some bands wouldn't have made it without them, but your earnings are always reduced. Question is what does it take to make more without them? It's kind of a gamble, and have to know when to cash out.
It's such a tough one because had he not signed, we may not have had Deadmau5 in the same way during his rise to rave God levels of stardom. What a label does is prop you up and support you so you don't have to scrounge for money. They have connections, get you booked for stuff, push marketing campaigns etc. He may have been more of a niche artist for longer had he not signed. Maybe that would have been okay and he eventually would have broken into mainstream either way, but would we have missed out on certain collabs? Would it be worth that loss to have the masters now that he could tinker with. I don't know the answer. Just food for thought.
Signing with the label gets you in the room with people that push the gigs. In your promotional radio one wouldn't have busted it out so much if that major label wasn't on the contract.
I respect deadmau5 for his genius and his talent, but I strongly dislike his arrogance. “Don’t sign with a major label” ok like really? I’m sure we have seen his streams where he sits in a $100k+ home studio with Fukn moogs lining the room in a desk centered in middle with an even more expensive sound board setup and he is gona sit there and say “ there was other ways I could of got the money.” I didn’t need a label that bad they didn’t do anything for me” like bro they brought your music from inner underground circles to mainstream that made u shit ton of money to sit in your fancy house in your multi million dollar studio to be able to become extremely popular and profitable and relevant enough for you to be interviewed just to turn around and say “yea I didn’t really need the big label” like yea every dj/produce who is worth an ounce of something can make good shit with what they got but there is NO DENYING that the ability to upgrade your toolbag because of the money received from label didn’t directly impact your sound for the better. Guys just an unnecessary ass lol. Like he’s a genius and I respect his work but he’s an ass
Its a different time now, hes not wrong. People get discovered in their bedroom now. "GHOST'S AND STUFF" would propel him today. He could break out and tour with just that song initially.
There's more than one kind of record deal and what you've described is just a fraction of actual offers. In the majority of cases the label is more or less just a distro. They'll pay to have say, 1,000 CDs pressed and then be in the negative in regards to that 900 - which they know they will eventually sell and profit from because more people know the distro than your unheard-of band, and then you can sell your 100 copies and hopefully make a few bucks at the end of the day and introduce your music to people.
My absolute favorite and I never knew you guys existed their first 10 or so years. So, no, your major record label didnt do shit for you guys at all, not one bit.
You essentially sign over the rights to your masters. Probably more details for each specific contract, but that’s the gist. So in the eyes of the law it’s not his, it’s theirs.
@@recca7 but that doesn’t necessarily mean he can’t create his own stuff, no? It’s not like they tell him what to make? Because he’s the artist. So basically whatever he makes is the property of the record label?
@@SugarW1thC0ffee not anymore because he's not signed with them anymore, but anything he has made with the label is the labels. Like with DC movies, Zack can't continue his DC universe without WB giving him the green light. They were asking Joel if a remix for faxing Berlin was possible.. Yea same thing
So basically signing with a major means giving up rights to your masters. Giving up your rights to your masters. Ill say it again, Giving Up Your Rights to Your Masters. Dudes got Masters who own him.
Really great team because kaskade is one of the nicest guy on earth and deadmau5 is one of the most rage, full rant mode guy on earth 😂
S'why I like him lmao.
Deadmau5 has done a few podcasts and he is a surprisingly good guest.
Deadmau5 is honestly equally down to earth, just more abrasive lol. If you do listen to his podcasts, talks and such, even streams hes working on things, whatever your take on him is, you can at least acknowledge, that you WILL learn something from his content
@@kimmyera174 no I never said I don't like him or he's a bad guy. He definitely down to earth, and a great guy. I learn a lot from his videos. He will tell everything he knows, not holding anything back. He's just the way he is, a lot of rant etc.
Deadmais is lying though, telling people not to sogn wth a major when he did and it made his career .
I love Joel's brutal honesty. Faxing Berlin is a masterpiece, such a gentle, subtle beauty.
“Maybe there were other means of getting it.” Beautiful, beautiful point.
Well, his whole popularity kicked off with MTV and commercial deals made through the label so idk bout that. l think "Signing a better deal" would have been more reasonable.
Deadmau5 JUST got rights to his older album masters back. Been teasing a vinyl release for Random Album Title. When he said "Don't sign with A Major Label", that came from his soul
I like the jab at "at play" and "ultra" for that...
At least we got some bangers out of it
@@asimplepie2279 too bad it's behind some gate keeping labels...
@@Zap525 true
I thought at play were the gatekeepers. I saw ultra as promoting his shit way more. At least that was how I found him
@@g.3067 He had ultra rants many years ago on top of the play ones, few on some podcasts, some on his streams, not sure where but they are floating around here on yt somewhere...
Don’t touch faxing Berlin. It’s perfect
Truth, I have floated around many dance floors to that song!
It’s still sucks the fact Ultra Records have total rights to Random Album Title over Joel but I’d like a 2023 remastered like his Arguru 2K19
Ironically deadmau5 disagrees. Someone trolled him by sending it as a demo (it was all in good humour) and he jokingly went along with it saying things like "oh, what, did he make this on fruityloops or something?". I remember him saying that he did a good job with the melody and from what I could tell his big issues with the track were more on the technical side than anything.
More cow bell!
That simple beat, that simple chord progression, simplicity at its finest
I love how deadmau5 is just so direct
Hard to say no to a label when you're broke and they offer you a 1M dollar deal.
Yea but I don’t think that’s what he’s talking about.
@@tengilleUltra doesn't own Faxing Berlin Play Records does
Absolutely
I'm 55 years old and these guys kick ass 10% of my music content is deadmau5
Bra you can hear the anger and regret in this maus voice
I love deadmau5
Suck him up...
deadmau5 to me is the Dr. Disrespect in music. Will always love him
@@SugarW1thC0ffee I love him too, if we told him that you loved him, it would frustrate him though
@@SugarW1thC0ffee I notice he has great taste for music pretty terrible taste for artwork and fashion. That’s just my opinion on him though. I also feel like amphetamines inspired most of his work
He loves you
These are the legends who created and produced Strobe. GOLDDUST.
Only deadmau5 produced Strobe
How do you guys compare it to Eric Prydz Opus?
@@fabiansandoval6132Opus is great but nothing in front of strobe. Strobe is a compositional masterpiece while opus imo is a technical masterpiece
@@fabiansandoval6132I love that you made this comparison because I always feel like Opus is Prydz’ Strobe. Opus brought me to tears the first time I heard it. But Strobe is just Strobe. On drink champs this is the part where I take a shot.
It's so funny how completely different these two guys are, love them both, they helped grow my love of house music.
Neither of them two are house music. Edm yeah and crappy tech trance but not house music . To understand house music you have to go back . That's an old Chicago saying that's been around since 88
@@oldskoolpaul89🤓☝️
@@oldskoolpaul89 ACTCHUUUALLYYYY
@@oldskoolpaul89progressive house you Dingus
@@Victor_386 progressive house 😂 digweed plays progressive house fool dead mouse is EDM and crap if that . Send me any good track by dead mouse and I'll send you a track 20 years ago superior . Good for you kiddies but us oldies prefer quality . Dead mouse just electronic noise.
My two production idols and probably the best combo of producers we’ve seen. Amazing tunes every time.
Random Album Title was his masterpiece and changed the music industry
It's bullshit that deadmau5 doesn't have ownership of his masters. Fuck ultra. With deadmau5 even more impressive producing skills I couldn't imigne how clean and crisp he could make a release or a newly mastered version.
While (1
@@FellaMakingVideoswhile 1>2 is arguably a better album but didn't have the same impact on the industry that Random Album title did
@@durrantmiller8810agreed. Also hi Durrant :)
Random album title changed my perspective in music, and possibly my life/career/interest for computers/music/ etc. Glad to hear others feel similar
People hate on Joel for his blunt honesty, but seriously... his wisdom in the business and audio engineering is unrivaled. He's not going to feed you a line. He's going to tell you how it is. And if you ask him advice, he's going to give you direct advice without the sugar coating. And he knows more than 80% of the other producers going when it comes to engineering sound. He knows what he's talking about. always.
I see his point but at that time there was no telling that social media would be as big as it is today so there was very few options to get your music ”out there”.
Anyone would say yes to a major at that time.
The 2 Biggest Legends of EDM...these guys really changed the music industry and here they are giving the best advice...It is so true!...
I met with Joel aka deadmau5 when I was 17 years old. He got me an opening at Ultra festival over 11-12 years ago.
I wish he told me to safely store my masters. I lost all my masters due to a broken laptop in 2014... I had a baby and lost ambition for music. I recently had discovered health issues so I am inspired to make music again. I studied deadmau5 livestreams for 2 years. I know exactly how he produces music. I flawlessly remade ghost n stuff and Strobe as a training exercise. I made the veldt in real time as deadmau5 was making it live. I sent him a revision with a bell chime melody and he acknowledged it was good and he used the bells.
I haven't made music in 10 years. I am now making music again and building my makeshift studio again. I am returning to make original music
That’s amazing! Glad you’re getting back into it 👏🏼
Well done my friend.
amen. realest in the game. the laugh tells you everything you need to know. I wish I could do music full time, but I will only do it on my own terms.
No matter what field you're in everyone feels like this in one way or another. I wouldve done it this way or that.
I love them both ❤
Joel is the 🐐 for real. 😤
I remember is the best song I have ever listened too
I remixed faxing Berlin and the label in question wouldn't allow a release and they said it was due to deadmau5 management lol
@@agent3976 but they can and will stop you from releasing it unfortunately
@Agent 39 I did a remix of faxing Berlin years ago, I did for the horde community, did it as a Christmas gift because it was like the anniversary of the track, put it out for free for everyone one to enjoy download and share, put some real damn effort into it too, it was quite decent, nothing super big but it wasn't bad, what do I get, I selfless message from play records, shady antics on my accounts, and strikes because of their bad business practices to gate keep their stuff to suck as much money from joels name as much as possible, so word of advice, do not, ever support at play records, in any way or form, there are a fuck ton thousands of other labels out there that are more professional than they are that put out deadmau5 2008 tier tracks with a modern spin, also, a more professional guy did a FREE bootleg years later, you know what they did, they forced him to take it down then re release it on the label, can't wait for the label to disband and Joel to get the rights back to his tracks...
@@agent3976 thats not what he was complaining about. he couldnt RELEASE it.
Deadmau5 I Remember ❤❤❤
Love you ❤❤❤❤❤ Thank God things happened how they happened!!
Nice advice. We all now have the tools for creation and promotion at our fingertips. Build a good team and go forward
Man this makes me sad because I know mau5 would absolutely polish up those mixes of his classics.
When I hear Random Album Title, I can tell the mixes were a bit rough, especially on the low end on some tracks. Still mixed really well, but I can see why he feels they weren’t up to par when you listen back now
I wanna hear the new faxin berling! Love that song
Faxing berlin Grifta remix is a legendary track.
The hardest choice is staying broke or finally getting paid..what do you trade? Does it matter when you’re starving? Real world questions
Man, even if he doesn't know me- Joel got me through some really, really low times. Even gave me the courage to finally stand up for myself. To this day, I still come back to him when things are horrible.
he’s actually nice. people these days are just soft.
@@fieldcraftmusic never said he wasn't?
Deadmau5 can say that now because it looks so easy to be independent. Back when he and Kaskade started out you couldn't just run to TikTok and pay influencers to use your song. Early social media (Myspace days) literally didn't have enough traction.
Plus with streaming now even artists that own their master's have to have their song steamed millions of times before they even see $5. Artists want their masters so they can make the same mistake of reselling them to a bigger conglomerate for...... *MONEY*
Deadmau5 other guy I think kaskade has liklihood in carrer foresight focus, that's good!.. or it's taking the easy plannin for a major 1 genius ones just make will make u like wat they want u 2 want labels that like u..
No. 1 reason why we started our own label. No one has ever heard of us , we have no following , just determined about our careers and worth . It’s just about rolling a little bit now but , all along , it was - no - let’s keep ownership over everything we do .
Is he working on a new album?
Yes Kx5 it should drop on the 17th I believe.
Yes joel is working on a new deadmau5 album and also recently releasex the kx5 album
Yeah it's true labels can increase your visibility and give you marketing, but it's a business like any other. I'm sure some bands wouldn't have made it without them, but your earnings are always reduced. Question is what does it take to make more without them? It's kind of a gamble, and have to know when to cash out.
It's such a tough one because had he not signed, we may not have had Deadmau5 in the same way during his rise to rave God levels of stardom.
What a label does is prop you up and support you so you don't have to scrounge for money. They have connections, get you booked for stuff, push marketing campaigns etc. He may have been more of a niche artist for longer had he not signed.
Maybe that would have been okay and he eventually would have broken into mainstream either way, but would we have missed out on certain collabs? Would it be worth that loss to have the masters now that he could tinker with.
I don't know the answer. Just food for thought.
Deadmau5 legit looking dead inside
I love when millionaires or billionaires tell that money is not so important
It’s more about having control over your own work
Dial down the shaker sounds? Love Faxing Berlin but the shaker sounds throughout have always done my head in
Great info
When do we get the Joel Zimmerman version of all his old stuff like Taylor Swift did.
Bands have been doing that for 20 years, but it's difficult to do well.
when the label that owns his masters sells them back to him or just gives them to him. he even says it
@@TrueBlackJewYou can't take away masters without using the laws(if you can) from a electronic music artist.
I'm not even a big techno guy, but I enjoy Deadmau5 and Julian Jeweil. More of a Com Truise, Mitch Murder type but I enjoy Deadmau5 occasionally.
I love deadmau5 😄
Do faxing berlin "deadmau5s version" if swift can do it anyone can
He has a point.
Micro label FTW ? I am sure there is a way for better publishing (for both artists and labels) this way.
He was a cranky dude at our festival, but I don't blame him.
He'd still sign with a label lol
I wish he had expanded on 'how' he would have obtained the money to move on.
That what Michael J and Prince worked so hard for.
so good
#Preach #Church #MastersOfTheUniverse
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Signing with the label gets you in the room with people that push the gigs. In your promotional radio one wouldn't have busted it out so much if that major label wasn't on the contract.
I think it’s wild John Summit was given permission to remix I remember. Shiba San I understood more but who gave the blessing for JS?
JS is a plant he could remix whatever he wants
Im so sorry to hear that he doesnt own his music :((
Joel is being honest but Kaskade is right .. Saying that with a gold spoon is a lot easier than saying it when you can't afford the power bill.
Joel just cant be not awful, he really cant.
I'll agree with that.
Joel and Ryan I met Joel in the New York rave scene and Ryan in the Utah rave scene before they got big
Before 03?
Damn
He sounds like Kermit lol
Good TIPI
I respect deadmau5 for his genius and his talent, but I strongly dislike his arrogance. “Don’t sign with a major label” ok like really? I’m sure we have seen his streams where he sits in a $100k+ home studio with Fukn moogs lining the room in a desk centered in middle with an even more expensive sound board setup and he is gona sit there and say “ there was other ways I could of got the money.” I didn’t need a label that bad they didn’t do anything for me” like bro they brought your music from inner underground circles to mainstream that made u shit ton of money to sit in your fancy house in your multi million dollar studio to be able to become extremely popular and profitable and relevant enough for you to be interviewed just to turn around and say “yea I didn’t really need the big label” like yea every dj/produce who is worth an ounce of something can make good shit with what they got but there is NO DENYING that the ability to upgrade your toolbag because of the money received from label didn’t directly impact your sound for the better. Guys just an unnecessary ass lol. Like he’s a genius and I respect his work but he’s an ass
true
whos gonna tell him one rack of rack of modcan b's is 100k so are the genelec monitors dudes studio has bare minimum 3m into it
Its a different time now, hes not wrong. People get discovered in their bedroom now. "GHOST'S AND STUFF" would propel him today. He could break out and tour with just that song initially.
That would be a pretty lame set. "Okay guys you heard the one song, make sure to buy a CD and shirt and tip your bartender"
@@icankillbugs lol
Some people just dont have the drive.
It's still SO weird to be able to see deadmau5's face😂😂
it’s more rare to see him with his helmet on now😅
Is that kaskade?
Whos the other guy ?
Everyone I know that knows about deadmau5 has all been word of mouth, so idk where all these budgets go to but it’s not marketing
Something ppl dont realize when you sign onto a label, your music no longer belongs to you.
There's more than one kind of record deal and what you've described is just a fraction of actual offers. In the majority of cases the label is more or less just a distro. They'll pay to have say, 1,000 CDs pressed and then be in the negative in regards to that 900 - which they know they will eventually sell and profit from because more people know the distro than your unheard-of band, and then you can sell your 100 copies and hopefully make a few bucks at the end of the day and introduce your music to people.
@@icankillbugs yes i should have specified what i was referring to.
Kaskade subtly,politely disagreeing
Dont sign with a major label the butt sex is a pain in the ass
MF forgot where he came from
Whoops it seems be your own boss or be a slave. Which will you choose. Because I believe you can do anything
Thing is now people love cheesy tunes remixed into cheesy trance and a major record label will give their dj/artist a catalogue of tunes to remix.
play records?? I love his reaction XD which is real and true af.. f*ck most labels, bullshit af.. artists need to get out of it.
What does he mean by "retaining my masters"?
When you sign the record label owns your music instead of the artist
How BASED can this dude be!?
Is it me, or is he slowly looking like Bob Iger.
I just noticed that Joel looks like a family guy character. Like the old pedo man... Those eyes are exactly the same!
Literally any fucker out there can start a label these days! There zero excuse! My dog has a label
Strobe
Two of the biggest names in tech and house. And deadmou5 is just real asf😅
My absolute favorite and I never knew you guys existed their first 10 or so years. So, no, your major record label didnt do shit for you guys at all, not one bit.
DON’T SIGN TO A MAJOR
What does that mean tho? Can he not reproduce or create anything he wants without the labels permission??
Nope. Its their music he created
You essentially sign over the rights to your masters. Probably more details for each specific contract, but that’s the gist. So in the eyes of the law it’s not his, it’s theirs.
Its like film studios. You write/direct/produce a film for WB, universal, etc but at the end of the day it's their property
@@recca7 but that doesn’t necessarily mean he can’t create his own stuff, no? It’s not like they tell him what to make? Because he’s the artist. So basically whatever he makes is the property of the record label?
@@SugarW1thC0ffee not anymore because he's not signed with them anymore, but anything he has made with the label is the labels. Like with DC movies, Zack can't continue his DC universe without WB giving him the green light. They were asking Joel if a remix for faxing Berlin was possible.. Yea same thing
Ultra??? Lol
Thing is he cant make a sick atmos track from it because of word tape
He looks exactly like Bill Burr here
Same attitude 😂
Deadmau5 is the CM punk of electronic music.
Legends
Faxin Berlin is Perfect don’t remix it
I love deadmau5 but he's as white as a ghost he has the fungus
Joel needs to get a little bit of exercise and some sun every day.
Is that Wolfgang?
Deadmau5 and kaskade
So basically signing with a major means giving up rights to your masters. Giving up your rights to your masters. Ill say it again, Giving Up Your Rights to Your Masters. Dudes got Masters who own him.