DeWalt ToughSystem 1 vs 2.0 - Toolbox with Drawers and Parts Organizer
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2022
- DeWalt ToughSystem 1 versus Tough System 2.0 Toolboxes with drawers and Parts Organizer Reviews. Everything you may (or may not) want to know about these tough toolboxes. In this video I compare the exterior and interior dimensions, features, functionality, compatibility, and flaws. I purchased all of these boxes at my local Home Depot. #DeWalt #toughsystem
Links to points in the video:
0:10 Model Numbers
0:25 Comparison of Tool Box with drawers - Exterior Dimensions
0:33 Tool Box with drawers - Upgrades and Downgrades
1:14 Tool Box with drawers - Interior Dimensions and Comparison
1:31 How To Remove The Drawers
1:51 Tool Box with drawers - Weight & Load Capacity
2:06 Quality Of The Boxes
2:22 Tool Box with drawers - Compatibility with Racking Systems and DS Carrier
2:42 Tool Box with drawers - Value For The $
3:03 - Tool Box with drawers - Major Issue For Contractors... what they're good for!
3:37 - Tool Box with drawers - Compatibility (or not) with Tray and Foam Inserts
3:45 Parts Organizers - What's Included
4:19 Parts Organizers - Upgrades To 2.0... or not!
4:55 Parts Organizers - Exterior Dimensions
5:02 Parts Organizers - Weight
5:06 Parts Organizers - Interior Dimensions & Load Capacity
5:16 Parts Organizers - Feature Comparison
5:43 Parts Organizers - Compatibility with Racking Systems and DS Carrier
6:25 Parts Organizers - Value For The $
6:43 Warranty Info
7:08 The Wrap Up Summary
7:44 Workshop Dance Party w/Short Intro
Products appearing in this video:
ToughSystem 1:
DeWalt 22 in. Two Drawer Toolbox Organizer DWST08290 (DS290)
DeWalt 22 in. Small Parts Organizer DWST08202
DeWalt 22 in. Small Toolbox DWST08201 (DS150)
ToughSystem 2.0:
DeWalt 22 in. Two Drawer Toolbox Organizer DWST08320
DeWalt 22 in. Small Parts Organizer DWST08040
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My Review and Long Journey to get a DS290: • DeWalt ToughSystem DWS...
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Very helpful comparisons, especially the dimensions. I agree with your assessment, I wish the 1.0 drawer box was still available.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! The older boxes are definitely harder to find at traditional retail these days so when I find them I pick them up. Thanks again!
it is in some online stores
I have the 1.0 drawers. Work in the ghetto and I hated they didn’t lock. I added cam locks to each drawer works like a charm.
Brilliant idea! Thanks for sharing that.
Mind sharing how you did this?
Thank you! I was going to get one of those. But did not know it does not fit the rack.. Saved me a lot of money and irritation! 😀👍❤️
Yeah that was frustrating to learn. The way I get around it is to attach it to whatever box is at the top of the rack. You’ve got to have the clearances though.
Totally agree with your assessment. I do like the longer organizer cups on the 2.0 for storing longer bolts and lags that I use in my proffession. Sadly I've not been more impressed with my 2.0 boxes then my 1.0 boxes. I was able to get my 2.0 stuff at a decent discount at Rural King when they had a sale a year or so ago so I pulled the trigger to try them out instead of adding more 1.0 boxes to my system. The quick latching is nice on the 2.0 but the old system latching never bothered me that much. And for me 1.0 works just as well if not better in some situations as I have the DS carrier. So I will buy 1.0 boxes in the future if I can find them as it is certianly bound to be a better deal then buying the 2.0 system stuff.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. My toughsystem 1 boxes get more use than the 2.0 boxes. May be I’ve been using them longer and I can pack them more efficiently. When I need more boxes, I usually try to find the 1.0 boxes first since they’re less expensive. I’m looking forward to Black Friday this year and curious to see if prices drop further.
The gapnin the middle is good the milwaukee has the same thing and i like it because i put my drill bits .
Thanks for your review. It was really helpful
Thanks for sharing that info! Glad the video was helpful.
Great video. I wish I watched it before ordering the 2.0 to add to my original boxes. I can confirm, they are NOT 100% Compatible! This makes it a huge pain in the ars when rolling up tools at the end of a long day. I wish DeWalt would have put more thought into this design.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I’m going to assume you’re referring to the small parts organizer since that’s the one I have the most issue with. Another person commented they were having a compatibility issue with the drawer box, but it turned out there were some screws that weren’t tightened when it was manufactured.
NO handle on top?
The bottom rolling box needs to be able to open without unlatching all the boxes on top. No brand does that . Do they ever work in the field??
I agree. I think the concept of mobile toolboxes is to be able to move the tools around and not necessarily to access them. 🤣
@@BruceAlanR it's really not a problem on a big jobsite, but when your on a smaller repair or a customers apartments, unstacking them and then stacking is a chore, ..
Good Video! They lost me when they did not make 2.0 backward compatible with 1.0. I have 1.0 and still end up using my original Rigid system because my roll and lock will not close with the handle of the Dewaly system. I getting rid of all systems and going with Milwaukee Packout.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Yesterday I saw Home Depot had the 2.0 mobile tool box for $178 online and it came with a bonus small and medium box (so basically the whole mobile system) as well as a deep tool tray. I was considering getting another; however, I decided to give the Ridgid 2.0 Pro Gear a try because I like the idea of being able to roll in and mount the boxes to studs, which also allows the lids to be open. Unfortunately the handles are a bit wiry so if the big box is loaded and I’d I’m not wearing gloves it isn’t great. Not as nice as the old Ridgid boxes either. If you go packout, let me know what you think.
I have no issues with my 2.0 boxes, organizers or drawers. Yes they could redesign them a bit more but they all have performed well for me.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I picked up another 2.0 version now that the price has dropped to $99; but since they don’t lock, they still live in the shop.
I agree I love the first boxes because of the mobile carrier i wish Dewalt upgraded its latches but maybe in the future good review
Glad you enjoyed the video. I recently picked up the 3 drawer Toughsystem 2.0 box so perhaps I’ll review it. The drawers of the 3 drawer box are so shallow it’s really only good for boxes of fasteners, blades, chisels, or dremel accessories. Power tools don’t even fit in it. 🤣
Finally picked up the 2.0 box cause I couldn't find the 1.0. The did fit the 1.0 box but, was cumbersome to get fit vs 1.0 to 1.0 box. I saw some complaining one the 2.0 bottom box when opening it rolls all the morning dew or water into the main box off the lid. With this in mind I am happy to have the 1.0 box still. Thanks for the reviews. Def going to have to get that handle mod for middle of the two drawer unit.
Thanks for sharing that. I've considered the handle mod, but since the boxes don't lock, I've turned them into workshop storage.
@BruceAlanR OK, so I've been using these 2.0 drawers for a few weeks. I m already finding me accessing and using my tools so more often now. Just in my own garage, there is no need for locking. I am eyeing the 3 drawers now.
@@1kzriderI’m likely to pickup the 3 drawer units as well. Since they’re not very deep I’ll likely just use them to store fasteners and bits.
At 2:24 in the video you show how the 2 drawer unit can tilt forward when mounted to the workshop mount. It looks like that’s the 1.0 unit in the video shot (which I also have). Does the 2.0 still tilt forward when the top drawer is open? I was hoping the wider handle might stop that.
Great question and observation. Unfortunately both my 1.0 and 2.0 drawer boxes tilt forward unless there’s a box above.
DeWalt got complacent on the storage systems. They had years of advantage and wasted it. Now it's small incremental changes that don't even compare to the massive amounts of competition. It's so bad that a few years ago they showed off a triple drawer 1.0 and that still hasn't seen the light of day. It's either horrible R&D, or some contract issues with Keter. Maybe both. So much potential wasted.
I completely agree! I’ve recently added some of Ridgid’s Pro Gear Gen 2.0 boxes to my rig and I really like them for the price.
The 3 drawer you saw years ago did see the light of day but was only in the UK! Ridiculous. They even had the pic of it on those little pamphlet things that are zip tied to a box sometimes. I imagine plenty of ppl were like o thats cool and then try to find it and dont understand why they couldnt find it lol
Totally makes sense. I believe they were also available in Australia.
the three drawer is now available…just google it…it JUST came out.
I buy Dewalt tools mostly because they are owned by an American company vs Milwaukee but Milwaukee pack out is far superior and I have to go with that.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Packout does have some nice features and organization although I do find it bulky. Since I was already deep into DeWalt I stuck with it, but other companies are catching up and even surpassing DeWalt with storage options.
Nice 👍
Thanks!
I kinda like the fact there's a middle space in the 2.0 organizer. I'm looking for a new box to throw my socket set into since the case it came in is currently being held together by a stretchy belt. That middle spot would fit my drivers and extensions perfectly
Yeah, I’ve gotten used to the space in the middle. For my electrical stuff, I now use the middle space for premade pigtails and a spare multibit screwdriver.
🤔 Does the 4 port fast charger fit seemlessly on top of the drawers, and lock in place? If so, that's all I need 2 hear to go get these! Thanks for the vid!
Yes. It’s the power station that requires a 1.0 box.
No the 4 port charger doesnt just fit the 2.0 box. It can be made to fit though grinding and shaving the bottom of the feet. Works like charm after that. Also did the same thing to the powerstation but that definitely required more shaving and all but 100% worth it. Its underneath. Who cares it works great and you dont even notice
@@BruceAlanR 4 port charger an issue too but both units can modded with grinding and shaving of the feet
Thank you for clearing that up. My buddy has a 4 port charger attached to the 2.0 boxes, but I didn't think to ask if he did a mod. He's pretty savvy so it's likely he did. Thanks again!
What are the little side latches for on the 1.0? Been trying to figure that out
The side latches of the 1.0 organizer lock the box into the Racking System or DS carrier since there are no side handles.
@@BruceAlanR thank you
Can you attach a ToughSystem 1.0 organiser onto a ToughSystem 2.0 stack properly? Are the two compatible? Thanks
Yes! A 1.0 organizer will fit on top of a 2.0 stack.
As a racking user, I'm trying my damndest to get the 1.0 organisers.
Yeah, they’re hard to come by these days. Sometimes I find a stray return at a local HD.
I’ve had the 1.0 drawer for a year and a half now and I never use the top handle the drawers just stay in my van. The 2.0 is definitely a upgrade because if I bought it I could stack my half boxes to the top but I can’t because the 1.0 doesn’t have that yellow piece.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Love the flag.
I almost bought these Dewalt because of the drawers. I noticed the handles of the drawers on the side instead of the top handle, you use your back too much. So, I'm just keeping my Rigid system. I actually ordered another clearance rolling toolbox. They are pretty affordable. $59 bucks !!
I really like the new Ridgid Pro Gear 2.0 boxes. I really like the simple mounting system and the fact that the wheels come off the large rolling toolbox. They Ridgid stuff is also less expensive and seem equally as durable.
@Bruce Alan Reviews + Repairs (BalanR)
I picked up the Gen 2 and the smaller box also.
They had an in store special.
$67 . I used them for my other setup. For tiles tools . Couldn't pass it up !
Wow! That’s a good deal!
does anyone know the next launch of new items for the 2.0? They need a new open tool bag
Agreed
So the 2.0 thoughsystem trays won't work in the 2.0 thoughsystem 2 drawer box? This is a great video
Unfortunately, they trays won’t work. They’re not contoured properly for the drawers.
I dont like any of the drawers on any of the boxes, no matter who makes them. I do however really like the 2.0 parts organizer box. I will be getting another one.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Dewalt is all over the place. No wonder Milwaukee's packout is dominating the market.
I kinda agree. It’s a shame too because DeWalt had a head start in the market place with the toughsystem.
@@BruceAlanR i think Ryobi is much further than dewalt. The Flex system looks pretty good too, if they expand on that Flex will out do dewalt.
I agree Flex looks really good. I also have to commend Ridgid’s new 2.0 boxes, which I also have. They’e rugged and considerably less expensive than most systems, but they don’t have a drawer box… yet! I was actually at my local Home Depot and saw some guy checking out the DeWalt 2.0 set and I was like, “Have you tried these Ridgid boxes?” and then I started showing him how the wheels can be removed from the large tool box (unlike DeWalt), how they have an easy wall mount system that comes with each box, and all the included extras (inside storage cases, dividers). The guy was like, “Wow! They’re really nice and so much cheaper!” He ended up buying the whole set. I walked out of the store going, “OMG, what have I done! Did I really just discourage someone from buying DeWalt? What’s happening to me?” Ha!
I checked out the Flex parts box and has the same middle spot
Yes, as does the packout organizer. The gap must be in fashion. I started to use the center for my pre-cut pigtails (if you don’t do electrical work, that last comment is going to sound awkward). 😂
Why did they get rid of the damn top handle? My other 1.0 boxes have top handles and the do hickey thing. Smh
There are mods you can do to add top handles to the 2.0 boxes, but it’s ridiculous to have to do that for the price. Big oversight by DeWalt.
1.0 👍
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Black Friday deals are back!
The little sound effects in the background take me back to 90s for some reason.
Ha! Some folks love the sound effects, while others don’t. I have yet to perfect the balance between “entertaining and annoying” according to my other half and she’s a wise woman. 😁
@@BruceAlanR these are the same sound effects that are in my head all day
How deep are the drawers?
The interior of each drawer is 11¼" deep; however there is an indent behind the drawer handle where the drawer's are only 10¼" deep.
I bought two new 2.0 2-Drawer Boxes and planned to stack a 1.0 small box on top, but unfortunately it will not click on both sides. Only one side will click. It seems the 2.0 is slightly too wide.
Thanks for sharing that. The 1.0 box doesn’t clip into either of the 2.0 drawer boxes? I can’t say I’ve experienced that other than if I really max out a box and it bulges in which case it doesn’t want to clip in easily.
@@BruceAlanR Actually, I only tried clipping the 1.0 on top of one of the 2.0 boxes. I'll try both and will update.
I thought I posted an update. The screws needed to be tightened. After doing so, the 2.0 snaps onto the 1.0 without issues and vice-versa. I guess they weren't fully assembled when shipped to the seller.
@@ALTONBENALLYThat’s great news! Thanks for posting an update.
Craftsman has the tradestack two drawers and it has a handle on top
I’ll have to check them out. Thanks! I just got a few of the Ridgid Pro Gear 2.0 tool boxes, but I haven’t decided if I’ll be keeping them.
Getting rid of the top handle is bad
Completely agree!
With the organizers the 2.0 has bigger cups for the smaller ones then the 1.0. The 1.0 cups are hard to dig your fingers when the bin isnt full. The weird middle storage packout has as well so thats prolly why. The issue with the 2.0 not going into the arms irritated me too but with my setup its doable for me as the drawers that it sits on for me stay in the truck anyway and not mobile into the job. If you take a multi tool and you cut that bump out on the arms a 1/4" the organizer will fit how you need. Now the 2.0 drawer it irritates me that the box is identical to the 1.0 except for the latches and half box capability. The drawers should have been made deeper and an overall taller box to match packout drawer size. I dont think you can buy the 1.0 anymore from what ive seen but correct me if im wrong 2 DIFFERENT boxes jus makes too much sense for the end user so dewalt said screw you. I still needed them so i got them of course.
Great info so thanks for sharing all that. Does seem lazy of DeWalt to make so few improvements to the box with drawers. I’ve seen a few 1.0 drawers online, but they’re definitely hard to come by… and the price has gone up. I needed more drawers too and when I went to HD and they had the 2.0, I was like just grab it and be done with it. I honestly hate shopping.
Drawer latches are trash on both systems unfortunately. I wish they would fix them asap
Yup… and they’re the same on the new TS 2.0 3 drawer box. Just picked one up.
@@BruceAlanR
3.0 can’t get here fast enough. Good thing they have a life time warranty.
98.00 at HD now.
Yes, the lower price began in late November with the Black Friday sales and will likely continue for a while. Not sure how long it will last though.
 Полностью согласен. Первая версия лучше!
Yeah, my TS1 gets used everyday. I use the TS2 as storage in the shop. 🤣
dang disappointing was waiting for 2.0 drawer set
I agree My local HD has it on sale for $99 at the moment, but I just can’t bring myself to invest these any further.
Thank you for the compatibility question answered at ua-cam.com/video/Mfv2HN7mukI/v-deo.html
No prob. Glad it was helpful. 😃👍
Dewalt not offering a warranty on the drawer system humm
They provide the usual warranty on all the new boxes, it's just that they hadn't updated their website at the time of the video. The warranty is posted on a sticker on the box though, so no worries. I guess they're better at making tools than they are keeping their website current. 😃
@@BruceAlanR 👍🏾
My 1.0 drawer box looks totally different. They must have 3 versions
Interesting! What’s different about your 1.0 box as compared to mine?
@@BruceAlanR the original 1.0 has no yellow foam around the edges. Water will go straight into it if any rain gets on it and they are very flimsy. I see why they immediately upgraded them. I don’t know how I missed the in between version. I use the DS carrier and would much rather have the two drawer with the locking mechanism on the back.
Wow! I’ve never seen it without the drawer gaskets. Must have been the original version. I agree that DeWalt should have made the 2.0 boxes compatible with their own DS carrier, which is far superior to the mobile toolbox.
Just watched a video of guy was able to put a handle on it
I will definitely look for that! Thanks for mentioning it.
@@BruceAlanR If was dewalt I start looking into is someone try sabotage my product, why would you make something worse that's what made that product better than Milwaukee it had the top handle other than that Milwaukee drawers are better the thing that sucks about Milwaukee is drawers don't lock without the stupid bar
I agree that the bar on the 3 drawer Milwaukee box is weird.
@@BruceAlanR I think it might be my video he is talking about. ua-cam.com/video/hUYGdn1NwUo/v-deo.html
Brilliant Sam! Thanks for putting in the time… And nice job for a first video. I’ll add a card in my video linking to your video.
Packout is simply better
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I’ve just never been a fan of the Milwaukee wall mounting system. I do like the box configurations though. I recently picked up a few of the new Ridgid Pro Gear 2.0 boxes and really like them… they’re also less expensive.
@@BruceAlanR I have altered mine to suit my needs. There is a wealth of modifications that can be done to them. More then any other brand, by far. This mod community has created 3D printed mods and well as 3rd party add ons. So you can fine tune these packout boxes to perform way beyond what the others are capable of. I believe if you are trying to refine your craft then you need to look not only what they are but also what they could be. Few bring this point up when they review.
Good to know!
Here in Australia, you pay almost double for a Milwaukee equivalent to DeWALT ToughSystem 2.0 3 In-1 Tool Box Bundle.
@@ibby81ae yep. They are expensive.
You forgot that the system 2 wobbles more than a jelly
Ha! Yes, I suppose there’s that too! Thanks for noting that.
@@BruceAlanR I think its a good reason for not buying the mark 2 , I have the 1 drawers and they lock together rock solid , Cart them about on a cosco sack barrow (s the Dewalt toughsystem truck is rubbish) and they are solid the new version as I said wobbles more than Grandma's jelly
Costco sack barrow? Ha! I’ll have to check that out. Maybe I’ll setup another rig. Thanks!
So, the drawers are not weather proof, that's a deal breaker for me.
Correct! The drawer boxes are not IP65 rated so they’re what I’d call “spritz” proof.
So DeWalt seems to have half assed the whole system...
Now they gotta toss everything start over
By then I'll have a Milwaukee pac out system for all my DeWalt tools...🤦
Yes and it’s a shame because DeWalt didn’t have much competition when the system 1.0 came out.
Yeah it's crazy. I'm the opposite, I have all my Milwaukee tools in Tough System 1 as it was the best then. Duh.
The gap in the middle is for those boxes of multiple machine screws, terminal kits, multi size shrink tube kits, washer and bolt kits.
Yes, I use one box for my electrical supplies and put my pre-cut pig tails and shrink tubing in the middle.
The 2.0 system was fail all the way around.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. My 2.0 boxes spend more time in the shop while my 1.0 are always in rotation. That says something! Or maybe I’ve just gotten so used to loading and unloading them I don’t want to make the change. Ha!
I had to stop watching as soon as you just took a handful of screwdrivers and tried to throw them in the middle slot. Wish I could take my watch back. Shouldn't have even gave a comment but I'm in too deep.
Thanks for the feedback! I actually have a few of these boxes given I couldn’t find the old ones. The middle space of the electrical box I’ve set up accommodates electrical pigtails, shrink tubing, and a few spare receptacles and light switches.
@@BruceAlanR yeah I'm trying to figure out how to set my box up properly and checking out videos to give me ideas. I was on board with you but that part just felt like your mind was made up and had an agenda to talk down on it. I guess the best analogy would be oj and the glove. Kinda forcing a narrative if you know what I mean. Respect still though as I probably wouldn't be able to make a well produced and edited review such as yours.
Good and fair point!
Overall looks like a downgrade. Kinda sucks.
Can’t argue with that.
I like the metal latches on system 1 better
Kinda agree with you.
The gap in the middle is for those boxes of multiple machine screws, terminal kits, multi size shrink tube kits, washer and bolt kits.
Thanks for sharing that. I actually set one of the 2.0 parts organizers up with my electrical supplies and put shrink tubing and pre made pigtails in the gap. Works well. Thanks again!