Even if it's a personal list, sometimes my jaw dropped: like that 50 was Ravel of all people, or that Stravinski, Prokofiev or Shosta are lower than Albinoni or Dufay for ex. Also people like Pachelbel or Boccherini are mostly known for one piece only, so it's very surprising you would put them as high as you did. But ofc, it's a personal list, I understand.
I realize that you know very little about Boccherini. He wrote beautiful music of many types (not only the Minuett, which you are probably alluding to...), which you obviously seem to ignore, and invented the string quartet, which by itself would be enough to put him in an even higher position than that in this list. By the way, "your" minute is a tempo of one of his many very nice quartets.
@@namenlos2578 I don't know there's evidence to suggest Boccherini "invented" the string quartet. Also, you seem to make to be making fun of me for no reason, I admitted it's a personal list. I am sure Boccherini has nice music, so have many other composers who are not regularly making top 50 best composers of all time lists. The fact remains that Boccherini is, fairly or unfairly, a composer known mostly for one work, as goes for others like Pachelbel, Leoncavallo, Suppe, Bruch or Mascagni. I'm sure they all have more than one work to that is worth hearing, but that would still surprise me to see them on lists of "greatest of all time". HOWEVER, as I said, it's a personal list, so it's all good! If someone thinks Franz von Suppe is the greatest composer of all time, it's all fine by me!
@@mateigheorghiu If you read books on the history of music, you will find evidence that Boccherini is considered the "father" of the string quartet (perhaps together with Haydn, but this is more controversial). It was not my intention to make fun of you: if you had this impression, I apologize. I agree with you that the choice of the best composers is personal. However, I cannot agree with you when you write that the reason for not considering Boccherini worthy is because he is "known mostly for one work". Perhaps this is true for you and few others, but not for those who know music better. I would have no problems if you simply wrote that you do not like his music and therefore do not consider him worthy of being in the list of best composers: this would indeed be your personal, respectable choice
I like your list, and I agree mostly. I would drop out some of the other classical and baroque composers because I really like romantic composers, but this list is well done.
You represent Brahms by "his" Hungarian Dance No. 5 which was not an original composition of his, nor was claimed by him to be. It is based on a dance called "Bártfai emlék" (Memories of Bártfa) by Hungarian composer Béla Kéler.
Ravel at 50, Shostakovich at 45, Prokofiev at 44 and Stravinsky at 41? I know it's a personal list but in terms of greatness all 4 of these would have to be in top 20 - some in top 10. I consider Beethoven to be much greater than Mozart and even the almighty Bach.
I agree only with top 4: - 4. Vivaldi, 3. Beethoven, 2. Mozart, 1. Bach. most of this list looks quite weird for me. I don't know some of these composers though. and I have video top 30. may be it would be interesting for you
It's really a favorites list, which is ok. A sterner list takes into account creative advances, which is why Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Haydn, Wagner, Stravinsky, Chopin, Lizst, Handel, and Bartok would outrank guys like Tchaikovsky, Brahms, Verdi, Dvorak and such who produced tons of wonderful music, but mainly in already established forms.
I agree. I would have in positions 4-7 Wagner, Schubert, Brahms and Chopin. I think they are all really 4=. Hard to rank these 4. Beethoven is always #1 for me, with Tchaikovsky and Mozart next.
It seems that more modern classical music is not your preference. Bela Bartok, Richard Strauss, Sibelius, Elgar and and and… all are giants. Bur ok, not Your preferences…😊
Good list, with most of the great Baroque masters included.
You have admirably broad taste. I especially enjoyed your selection for Josquin. I hadn't heard El Grillo in years and it is one of my favorites.
Are you kidding me? Offenbach is greater then Ravel? Seriously?
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For me Ravel is a easy top 10
More famous, obviously yes
Apart from pianonerds noone knows ravel
@@letoatreides5165 yes but it doesn't mean Offenbach is better.
Schumann at 47! Ouch. I would place him in the top 10. I like Holst, Elgar and Sousa too. Glad to see you included Glinka.
Very good list! I made one of my own on an iPad and it is okay. I agree with your selection. Do you mind if I ask you how you made this video?
Antonín Leopold Dvořák I used Filmora (wondershare video editor)
Thanks for replying! Now that I watched your video again, I just noticed how in the world did I miss Haydn
Even if it's a personal list, sometimes my jaw dropped: like that 50 was Ravel of all people, or that Stravinski, Prokofiev or Shosta are lower than Albinoni or Dufay for ex. Also people like Pachelbel or Boccherini are mostly known for one piece only, so it's very surprising you would put them as high as you did. But ofc, it's a personal list, I understand.
Boccherini is absolutely amazing outside of that minuet
Also boccherini was so influential to the string quartet
I realize that you know very little about Boccherini. He wrote beautiful music of many types (not only the Minuett, which you are probably alluding to...), which you obviously seem to ignore, and invented the string quartet, which by itself would be enough to put him in an even higher position than that in this list. By the way, "your" minute is a tempo of one of his many very nice quartets.
@@namenlos2578 I don't know there's evidence to suggest Boccherini "invented" the string quartet. Also, you seem to make to be making fun of me for no reason, I admitted it's a personal list. I am sure Boccherini has nice music, so have many other composers who are not regularly making top 50 best composers of all time lists. The fact remains that Boccherini is, fairly or unfairly, a composer known mostly for one work, as goes for others like Pachelbel, Leoncavallo, Suppe, Bruch or Mascagni. I'm sure they all have more than one work to that is worth hearing, but that would still surprise me to see them on lists of "greatest of all time". HOWEVER, as I said, it's a personal list, so it's all good! If someone thinks Franz von Suppe is the greatest composer of all time, it's all fine by me!
@@mateigheorghiu If you read books on the history of music, you will find evidence that Boccherini is considered the "father" of the string quartet (perhaps together with Haydn, but this is more controversial). It was not my intention to make fun of you: if you had this impression, I apologize. I agree with you that the choice of the best composers is personal. However, I cannot agree with you when you write that the reason for not considering Boccherini worthy is because he is "known mostly for one work". Perhaps this is true for you and few others, but not for those who know music better. I would have no problems if you simply wrote that you do not like his music and therefore do not consider him worthy of being in the list of best composers: this would indeed be your personal, respectable choice
I like your list, and I agree mostly. I would drop out some of the other classical and baroque composers because I really like romantic composers, but this list is well done.
Everything is great, but I would have put Bach 3rd Mozart 2nd and Beethoven 1st
You represent Brahms by "his" Hungarian Dance No. 5 which was not an original composition of his, nor was claimed by him to be. It is based on a dance called "Bártfai emlék" (Memories of Bártfa) by Hungarian composer Béla Kéler.
Tchaikovsky❤
Liszt higher than Wagner and Brahms. Wagner relied heavily on Lisztian harmonics to create his music and Brahms composed in established forms.
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Number 2 for me. Beethoven number 1.
Johann Strauss II So Amazing
My favorite composers are Bach Mozart and beethoven
I'm surprised Berlioz isn't here!
And where is William Byrd and why is Debussy not in the Top 10
william byrds good
Smetana Bizet Pergolesi?
If this list is not intended to be in order of greatness, okay. Otherwise, you've got to be kidding!
My three year old son speaks Slovak when he was born in 1964
... would like to have seen ennii morricone...
Ravel at 50, Shostakovich at 45, Prokofiev at 44 and Stravinsky at 41? I know it's a personal list but in terms of greatness all 4 of these would have to be in top 20 - some in top 10. I consider Beethoven to be much greater than Mozart and even the almighty Bach.
Mahler ? Sibelius?
Starting off with ravel at 50???
I agree only with top 4: - 4. Vivaldi, 3. Beethoven, 2. Mozart, 1. Bach. most of this list looks quite weird for me. I don't know some of these composers though. and I have video top 30. may be it would be interesting for you
Mozart is great. I really really like him but there is no way he is better than Beethoven.
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Beethoven its number one...
The order of the rest doesn't matter.
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It's really a favorites list, which is ok. A sterner list takes into account creative advances, which is why Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Haydn, Wagner, Stravinsky, Chopin, Lizst, Handel, and Bartok would outrank guys like Tchaikovsky, Brahms, Verdi, Dvorak and such who produced tons of wonderful music, but mainly in already established forms.
Yes, Bach is the king, but the rest of the list seems strange to me
Schubert hätte ich an 5. Stelle positioniert.
I agree. I would have in positions 4-7 Wagner, Schubert, Brahms and Chopin. I think they are all really 4=. Hard to rank these 4. Beethoven is always #1 for me, with Tchaikovsky and Mozart next.
Schumann should be WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY HIGHER
RAVEL IS 50!!!
Happy birthday, Maurice!
What? No Bruckner😂😂😂 very strange top, its more like "my favourite 50 composers", no objective at all
Bach could never be better than Beethoven and Mozart
Agree!!!!!!!!!!!
switch Bach and Beethoven
I dont like rennisance composers
It seems that more modern classical music is not your preference. Bela Bartok, Richard Strauss, Sibelius, Elgar and and and… all are giants. Bur ok, not Your preferences…😊
ravel is my favorite but his bolero is so bad
I wouldn't call it bad, but it's certainly one of his lightest works.
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