Jack Neary interview part 1 | Keep'em small #3
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Jack Neary shares his Benchrest knowledge with me and we discuss why Lapua won't make 6PPC brass. All PPC brass is formed from 220 Russian brass at the moment.
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1,000 likes and I release part 2! It’s about barrel cleaning. 💪
Jack is the president of NRBSA,
He has some great ideas and has implemented some good things to promote the sport of bench rest to new shooters.
I joined and have been shooting BR for a year in the north central zone (Iowa) and love the mentoring program jack and others have prompted. Hope to meet jack for the first time this month at Nationals in Michigan.
As a new shooter I have won 2 small groups and looking for my first Agg or grand Agg.
Thanks for all you do Jack and Eric to promote our sport.
Thank you
I knew Ferris Pindell and he was a great man! I actually turned the blanks he made his dies from. Many people do not know this but Ferris made some AMAZING pool sticks. He would do load development at his house and shoot across his pond in Everton, Indiana. He was a man full of knowledge and will truly be missed!
Holy sh!t!! I had no idea Erik had a channel. Now I'm drinking in Erik's knowledge and I find Erik's interview with Mr Neary!!
I haven't seen this excited in a long time.
Thank you for putting this gold out for mere mortals like me!
I'll definitely check out your Patreon Erik, and thank you again.
Dang that was like my wife last night. Got me all excited then just shut off light and rolled over to sleep. LMAO. Hope part 2 loads soon. I like info Jack gives. Cheers
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LOL!
Erik,
Give us a part 2 or more!
It’s coming. Hit that like button! :)
@@ErikCortina I did I did!
Norma offers 6PPC read to load and shoot. I have 300 6PPC USA case head stamped Sako, but made by Norma. The neck wall thickness is .0110”-.0115”, so I don’t feel the need to turn the case necks. Plus the cases weigh +/- .4 grains. The only negative I’ve ever heard about Norma cases is they don’t last as many firings compared to Lapua cases. Apparently Norma brass is softer then Lapua. I don’t compete in Benchrest, I’m only using it to shot small groups into woodchucks and coyotes.
I've seen Jack's benchrest reloading and shooting tutorials on Vithavuori's channel, lots of tricks there !
Thanks for posting this: I hadn't seen these and I will certainly watch them now!
Jack has been a wealth of knowledge for me since I started shooting BR.
Joe Hynes
Watched him on the Vihtavuori channel the other day. For 6PCC tips! Awesome wealth of knowledge.
getting to pick the brain of a who's who of shooting is awesome. Knowledge is power.
I enjoy your videos on these subjects, and try to follow your suggestions. I have a 6mm PPC and have been getting the 220 Russian Lapua Brass to make my cases, an excellent BUT very expensive product these days, if you can even find it. My gunsmith asked me if I tried forming my 6PPC brass from 6.5 Grendel brass which I had plenty of, both Hornaday as well as Starline brass, made in the USA. I tried and it worked fine. Four simple steps; lube the cases, size them in the 6PPC FL die, used a 6mm K&M expander mandrel and turned the necks shaving off a minimum amount of brass. I trimmed the cases to 1.495 inches, and fireformed them in my chamber. The only real difference here was the size of the flash hole, which is larger than the on in the 220 Russian brass. I am getting 1/4 inch 5 shot groups @100 yards so far, granted I don't have the best action (Howa 1500) or the best barrel (Free barrel, complements of my gunsmith, 1 in 8 twist). I am shooting 105gr Hornady match, and some 107gr Factory seconds I've had for some time.
vogi wasser geben
Great video, can’t wait for part 2.
Two legends
Wow! I don't even know that there's an expert where I live!!! I would be interested to know more also! By the way your EC Tuner Brake is awesome! I used the tuner yet -- decided to do load dev't first but the muzzle break is phenomenal! Finally able to spot myself during my load development! 💯👍
Some time in the future it would be nice to see you do a similar video with Lou Murdica.
Gotta love the pendayho slip, that's not spelled right but you get it. I laughed and now I'm cleaning sandwich off my table hahaha!
Pendejo. Nice catch! Not sure I would have noticed. 👍🏻😂
As a purely casual shooter, i find all this info fascinating. Nope, no high dollar nothing, but i still rang the 12" gong 5 shots in a row from 500 meters(for the 1st time) yesterday. Shooting a run of the mill AR chambered in 7.62x39, with cheap Russian Spam can ammo.
Oh yeah... it is sporting an EC Tuner Brake,
Great product, Great vids!
Thnx Eric.
Woo hoo! Congratulations.
I've an old Weatherby .224 I'd love to convert to 22PPC , but lack of cases puts me off.
I only have a couple of hundred cases for the .224 and they're not exactly easy to get in the UK so I'll definitely have to make the change at some point.
Thank you
I mean you are Lapua.... Whatever you decide on would probably become the standard.
Seems like if Lapua brass was available, everyone would buy/build barrels to fit that spec. Certainly all new adopters.
Kind of an abrupt end to this video, is a part 2 coming?
Edit: just re-read the title...yes there is.
There are several parts. This interview was amazing!!!
Just trial and error, interview without a plan. All in all, nice video.
Norma until recently made 6mm PPC brass but they also stopped manufacturing it. I have never been easily able to find 6mm PPC. I have always wondered why?
"That was a quickie!"
Reducing Charge for Last Group --- I've heard this before. I'm not disagreeing. But why does it work? With lots of time between matches, I'd expect the barrel to cool back down. Cleaning between matches mostly re-sets the fouling condition. Is it ambient temperature affecting powder temperature as the day heats up? So why not start with a lighter load in the morning, and don't change? It's puzzling.
The never ending quest for the perfect .ooooooooooo group, screamers are great but the Grand takes the hardware home.
As I recall Ferris and Palmisano chose the 220 Russian case because of a large primer / pocket /flash hole .
Actually just the opposite. They chose 220 Russian because it uses the small rifle primer and has a smaller than normal flash hole.
It is actually a small rifle primer (I use CCI 450) and the flash hole is smaller than other brass. Part of what makes this cartridge accurate.
I may be missing something. I don't understand how starting with 220 Russian rather than 6 PPC brass mitigates the effect of different reamers having different specifications.
He mentioned that there's no point in making 6ppc brass because there's no spec. He mentions three kinds of reamers that are all different and so you have to fire form anyway.
It is great to hear him talk in general, but even better to hear him relate how things have evolved from his perspective in the last 23 years.
A few truisms have remained from the start of his career to the current, with many of the old BR accuracy assumptions being very sluggish to flush from people's collective thoughts and gun writer lore.
For unknown reasons, folks from the very top of the BR community don't often speak up and we hear too many loud opinions from the parrots who keep repeating old theory that has since proven to be untrue.
It was a series of hand filmed videos on YT that I caught long ago when he gave a talk at an event. I'll have to watch those again to see how many things may have changed in his talks. If it is okay, I'll find those and link them here, but I'll delete my post if you say so.
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Ah you sucked us right in and cut it! Full vid on Patreon?
Yes.
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Hi guys, please tell me: why 6PPC not 30BR , is 6PPS much better? Greetings from Poland,
OMG a man that pronounces Lapua correctly! Lap-wah not Lap-OOO-ah, 2 syllables not 3.
My son wants to know the name of the song you play at the end of the video? He's seven years old. He said he really likes it.
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6ppc is very close to 6mm ARC. Can 6.5 Grendel be resized to 6PPC?
It can’t be, Hornady spent a lot of years in R&D developing the 6ARC! 😂
The 6PPC came first, then Arne Brennan necked it up to 6.5 and changed the shoulder some and called it a 6.5 Grendel, and now it’s necked back down to 6mm and called the 6ARC.
Now you know. 😁
@@ErikCortina Yes, I'm sure it was a long lunch and took two or three napkins to get the 6 ARC idea on paper.
I'm new to reloading and don't understand why, if the grendel is basically a resized 6PPC why it can't be done in reverse so to speak. It seems it would be a lot less forming to get there than from starting with the parent case. Is it just not possible, more work, inferior results? Newbies want to know. 😁
Yes, I have done it and it seems to work fine. Keep in mind the size of the flash hole is larger in the Grendel.
@@bm.salameh6861 The Lapua 6.5 Grendel brass has the small flash hole. Thanks for your answer. I’m new to reloading and couldn’t understand why it couldn’t be done. Especially since Grendel to ARC works just fine for me.
@@rustynut1967 Just to clarify, the 220 Russian has a small rifle primer pocket, but a smaller than standard flash hole about 0.060 inch. Most other cartridges that use small rifle primers in the US have a flash hole diameter of 0.080. So if making 6PPC brass from 6.5 Grendel, the flash hole size will be larger in diameter than the 6PPC brass made from 220 Russian. Same primer size.
Go North Olmsted Eagles!
Get some.
Personally I think he’s wrong. If they made the brass, the reamer manufacturers would match it. Big mistake in my opinion. Granted, nobody but me cares about my opinion! lol
Makes me laugh every time I pull my grandfathers mistreated 60yr old deer cullers .222rem rifle out the closet and it stacks them in sub Moa I scratch my head