Meet Britain’s Answer To The Tesla Cybertruck!
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- Jack heads to Scotland to do some extreme off-roading in the first ever Scottish-built EV: The Munro Mk1. With a ruthlessly simple design and unparalleled off-roading capabilities, is this the true spiritual successor to the old Land Rover Defender?
00:00 Meet the Munro
01:34 For extreme off-roaders ONLY
3:40 The legend of Hugh
5:13 Initial thoughts?
7:17 Brutally simple design
8:57 Silly specs
10:45 Regenerative off-roading!!
12:17 Still a prototype!
13:03 Utilitarian interior
15:10 Back seat Jack Test
16:05 A very steep cliff
16:36 Concluding thoughts
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And that’s how you update the Land Rover Defender for the next century!
Not really. I think all they have done is replace an ic engine with an electric motor and mostly copied the looks and mechanics of a Defender. The next century for 4x4 vehicles is better illustrated with companies like Rivian who make use of the true potential of electric propulsion. Wish them well off course and no doubt it will find a market based on its price.
I do fully agree. Jaguar/Land Rover has lots of models to cover the luxury SUV demand in the market.
I do like the new defender....I would love one for everyday life (mostly on road).
But I do wish they had saved the Defender name to make something like this. Even in limited numbers.
Ford in my opinion did the same stupid thing with the electric "Mustang". Just using the name to try to increase sales, but taking a piss on the history and heritage.
Almost there, but they’re definitely on the right track.
Spot on. This is what a defender should look like, not something so expensive you’re scared to get a scratch on it
If you’re unable to design anything 😉
At first I thought it was the Bollinger B1. It certainly looks rather similar, just slightly longer. As a lover of Defenders, old and new, I love the simplicity of this vehicle's design. I wish the makers many sales and great success in their venture.
Apparently they got sued by Bollinger.
@@JayBeBerg Well that sucks. Hope they got things sorted, would be a shame if they ended up not making them.
Damn sight more affordable than the Bollinger though!
@@JayBeBerg Then Bolinger should be sued by Land Rover for copying the Discovery? After all, flat vehicle panels are nothing new.
Hopefully no Lucas electrics inside. Three position switch?
Once early versions of the Munro are in real-world use by Mountain Rescue teams, it would be great if you made a video all about it. Very few people appreciate the amazing work MR teams do all across the UK, and they are all incredibly dedicated & highly trained volunteers
Get yourself stuck up a mountain, and do a review on your way down 😊
I had a wonderful 'flashback' moment at the end of this when Jack was suggesting the Mountain Rescue teams and power companies would be lining up to order the Munro Mk1 to replace their old Land Rover Defenders.
In a 'previous life' WAY way back in the late 90s, I was the guy that SOLD the Mountain Rescue teams and power companies their old Defenders...!
I can honestly say that those were THE best times of my motor-trade years - they were such great people to do business with.
I want to buy one of these and drive it around the back garden that I don't have.
Edit: Being built to last 50 years as a design requirement is just fantastic. Munro might want to consider a merch store for folk who will never be able to afford or use one of these but want to support the company; I'd definitely buy a mug or two.
Presumably a square mug with a bolted on handle that you can replace....
@@BenThorp Now that's an idea I can support
100% agree that this is the spiritual successor to the defender.
The Land rover defender current one is .... sigh.
is…. Expensive, unreliable and not very good when you consider its more like what the Discovery should have been. When you look at commercial users, they want the basic panels, the ability to jump in with muddy boots and not be bothered they cause £5k in damage by just dinking a body panel.
The lack of electric gizmo’s is what I would be attracted to.
I bet Sandy Munro of Munro Associates can't wait to order one of those! he loves his off-roading, and well, the name...
He will say: "lots of fasteners" 😂😂😂
@@deltajohnny Sandy Munro will say "where is it?"
There is only 1 of these cars in existence. All claims are nonsense until production. Produce them, then talk.
@@roidroid Yes, and something tells me that these car will not be for salel in the USA...
@@deltajohnny Makes home repair possible. Nothing but an advantage for the end user. Losing fasteners just makes a vehicle cheap to build
@@MegaWilderness Yes, I think the same 👍👍 I hate that manufacturers are replacing fasteners with clips, which are not visible and are easy to break. When I hear Munro and the engineers that always advise OEMs to replace fasteners with other mounting methods, to save manufacturers time and money, I 😡😡😡
Back to the principles of the original Land Rovers and Jeeps. How refreshing! Loved the review Jack, would have enjoyed seeing more of your adventures in it.👍😅
Excellent vehicle ... what the new Defender should have been. Designed to be functional and not full of bling. I can see lots of components from the old Defender parts bin 😀
Just what I was thinking, wouldn’t surprise me if it was an original Defender chassis…
I can see James Bond being chased by henchmen in a fleet of these in the next Bond movie, and that's a compliment IMO
Then JB would have nothing to worry about. He would just need a Vauxhaul Corsa B with 45hp to outrun them by far...
good angles, body on frame, solid axles front an rear, low transfer case, differential locks and plenty of torque... you dont need anything else. Good truck, this keeps my hopes alive that one day, far into the future, if I have no alternative than to substitute my beloved Nissan Patrol, there will be at least one company making an electric truck I can buy without airbag suspension that will break on me in the middle of a trail or stupid luxury gizmos that wont do anything but to cause problems.
Just needs to be about 6 foot shorter...
@@johnhislop2993 I could live with that size, if I could sleep in the back, it would even be a plus.
@@johnhislop2993 why?
@@tatradak9781 The ramp-over angle is terrible. And I like shorties...
I have had the privilege of driving the new Munro, I can confirm this is an outstanding and very exciting 4x4, it certainly is a point and go off roader.
Seen in in the flesh yesterday at the Fully charged show, spoke with one of the guys responsible for making it, fell in love with it! highlight of the show for me, very best of luck guys!
Great to see new production going into the UK for once!
Untill they abandom UK workers to feast off USA EV credits like arrival did👎
@@londonyes1380 my dude at least it's not being built in China
Bad news for reliability though
50 years! Hats off to the brave souls who designed and built that amazing vehicle.
I am a long term admirer of Defenders having owned a couple and have lost that love in recent years as I have gone electric. It is so great to see a new company come in and try to perfectly fill the gap that Land Rover have left. Well done Jack what a great review and congratulations Munro what a useful vehicle! Really hope that you can get this to market and in good volume!
The simplicity makes me feel nostalgic when I remember the cars of the 1970's. They were much simpler and much easier to fix. This one has taken simplicity to a new level.
If only all manufacturers had a vehicle that was designed in this way.
This is what thinking outside of the box looks like. Elegant paradigm, indeed. I wish them well. Good on you for the review.
More like thinking *WITH* the box.
As you in the UK are fond of saying; brilliant! I love that an electric drive train was selected for this. No silliness allowed.❤
Nice vehicle! Reminds me of the Bollinger prototype.
Just about half the price
Great to a 4x4 done properly farmer's everywhere are going to love this! ATVB to the folk at Munro, great job and good luck! Another great fully charged episode 👍
farmers
Totally pointless (I’m a farmer). What’s it’s towing capacity? There’s yet to be an EV with a decent towing capacity.
Bollinger done right? Super happy to see this kind of vehicle being featured. Now if we can just get the electric equivalent of the original 2CV, legendarily converted to a motorcycle with simple tools in the desert, and I’ll truly be happy.
How good would that be!
Bollinger done to a price that most businesses can afford
Could I have something similar that is road focussed? Very, very simple and 50 year design life.
That towing capcity is pretty impressive
What a car, van, truck! The only thing missing were 2 cans of Irn Bru in the cup holders. Great review.
There is something profoundly satisfying when you see a machine that fits its purpose so precisely! Well done! Build them.
This massively reminds me of the Bollinger B1 and B2 EVs that were announced years ago and have yet to materialize. Great idea, but bringing any vehicle to volume production is unbelievably difficult, let alone an electric one. [edit: Judging by the comments, looks like I'm not the only who thinks this looks like the Bollinger!]
Apparently, Bollinger had hired a contract designer who is now head designer at Munro. Bollinger has filed lawsuit over it, citing violation of at least two design patents...
@@Smidge204 Hmm...
You're not the only one who thinks it'll also have the same level of success as the Bollinger. Will probably make the Grenadier look like a sales success though.
This is an off road utility vehicle, unlike the 100k Bollinger. I doubt if anyone who can afford a Bollinger will have any need to do manual work, off road.
@@fanfeck2844 The Bollinger is every bit as off-road capable as this thing. Whether or not the people who buy these sorts of things actually _do_ drive them off-road is another question entirely. Look how many Land Rover owners have never had their vehicles off-road, despite that being one of the Land Rover's claims to fame.
This is awesome, so good to see design for repair in a vehicle. More of this!
I love the promise of this vehicle. I wonder what the conversion boys will do and aftermarket goodie add-ons come out. The opportunities for variants is huge especially as there are so many simple flat parts. BRAVO MUNRO. Thanks for the show.
Even the steering wheel Mounting Structure is a rectangle box. I love how they didn't bother with Coefficient of Drag when going at 30mph max off road.
So happy they focused on the commercial market rather than the consumer market. That's where the real impact is in my opinion.
So nice to see an EV designed to be repairable and maintainable. We need a lot more of that in more conventional cars and vans too. I'd love a van built with this long-term, no-frills design philosophy, just some more aerodynamics so the miles per kWh numbers were closer to 4 than 2.
I absolutely love the Munro. At that price point and the fact that it’s built to last I’d definitely consider one. Looking forward to seeing more of this vehicle.
FANTASTIC REVIEW! LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE MORE!!!
I’ve been dreaming of a vehicle like this for *years*.
All the best to Scotland and Munro.
50 year design. So refreshing. Please make many more different things like that. 2WD pickup comes to mind here in the states, do they know what those are in Scotland?
Sometimes being fancy doesn't cut it. We need a vehicle which can handle the everyday rough driving without the guilt of keeping it fancy.
Reminds me of the Bollinger. Super cool design!
Good luck to them. I hope they make a success of it.
The market is much much bigger than mentioned. Defenders are used by Police, Fire Brigade, Post Office, Rescue, Ambulance, Forestry, Scottish Water, Scottish Power, SSEN, SEPA and many more. Basic Defender off-roaders are no longer made.
Love it. I wish it had a diesel engine so you can actually use it off road where there is no charging station available.
Can you fit a 20kW generator in the back?
The prototype was based on the Ibex 4x4 from Rotherham, so have they design their own new body now? Or is it just running gear?
Awesome .. this what's needed ..just the Basic's no Fancy Screens to break , Self driving etc
Flappy paddles on the steering wheel to switch between gear ratios and forward and back would be useful. Would be good for military covert use as theres going to be very little heat signature and its almost no noise at all. Very Cool.
Usually when you hope for a real wood car interior you have something different in mind, but still fit for purpose!
and as an added bonus, you can charge it from your solar panels in sunny scotland - in only two WEEKS !
Finally a truck with great approach and departure angles, and high clearance. I would buy that thing in a flash here in Canada. Needs 35's or 37's though. Drivetrain is old school solid axles, would be interested to know of what lockers it has.
The way he kept banging on about its off road capabilities I would have thought there would be more to see in this video of it actually doing some off road driving that other vehicles struggle with.
What is the wheelbase/breakover ground clearance on this?
Very similar to the Ibex from Foers Engineering (who I believe have also developed an electric version).
I'd love to have one of these in the mountains of Greece that I visit regularly, but unfortunately I don't have the kind of income to get one of these just for that. This truly is a replacement for the Defender, Brexit supporting, off-shore Ratcliffe can jog on.
I'd also love to see the reaction to this vehicle from the folk at Matt's Off-road Recovery in the US.
Yes, the right tool for the right job! (NOT picking up kids from school.) I love this. 😘😁
Best heating controls I've seen for a while!
Love the straight simple lines. It needs bigger tires. Unless tire size is limited in the UK
I think you'll be able to slap considerably gnarlier tyres on it no worries. Has enough torque to turn them... :D
Look at those entrance and exit angles!
Mad isn’t it!
Awesome looking thing. Hope they are ready for a huge influx of orders! :D
Looking forward to seeing these on the streets of Kensington and Chelsea soon.
(You know it’s going to happen.)
like humvee i guess...
perfect don't need all those bells and whistles ..fold totally down back seats or removable and throw a mattress in the back possibility is endless love it
Love the idea of this car. Not quite there for me as a one car family (city slicker), but could imagine going down well in the country as a work horse/ getting one from the country estate to the office when there's bad weather out in the sticks 😉
WHAT A VEHICLE! Aside from agreeing with all the opinions you express in this report, I only wish there were another six inches in the interior head/cargo room to facilitate camping conversions.
Harry's Garage needs to long term test one of these on the farm.
Awesome simple and Practical great job!
that sound it makes when he closes the 'boot-door'... I honestly expected a tin-like metal 'klang' sound
The cars that Land Rover should have built are exactly the cars they have built. They know their market.
They sure do. Cotswolds weekenders.
I want my mountain rescue man in one of these!
That's the thing I don't understand about those cars, they already had the discovery and sport, the range rover sport and vogue, what on earth did they need to add another similar car to the mix for? Surely it's just taking sales from one of those others.
I admit the new defender has presence but they've just left an entire market behind.
Luckily we have people like this. I'd love something like this or a LandCruiser built with this ethos. I've long contended a PHEV LC done right would be an absolute weapon of a vehicle. Enough battery to drive around town, a generator to provide long distance power in rugged terrain, and the torque of an electric motor that can't be beat.
I would get this for daily use if I could .... Looks really nice. Function comes before form.
OOH! I like! A practical EV, not a sofa on wheels! Just do away with the drive-shafts, diffs, etc, and put a motor in each corner - less to go wrong!
Depends on your definition of less doesn’t it ? You’re trading a design that has worked since about the dawn of four wheel drive for a set of sensors and a one or more computers and high speed computer code . Stuff that the companies that are developing it are not sharing for free. So add fast computers and complex code to your dream four wheel drive. If was a small Scottish company watching other EV startups going down in flames, I would not tie myself to a software development project , notorious money and time sinks that they are, to get my car company off the ground. I would bolt together stuff that works and is easy to build in small batches now. If I succeeded and grew I might reevaluate my design.
@@francesconicoletti2547 Plus I have a suspicion for four top spec hub drive motors they’d be getting near £60k before you even built a truck to attach them to.
@@francesconicoletti2547 For the purpose it's built, a breakdown in the middle of nowhere should be fixable with rudimentary tools. By the way, I am a software engineer. The problem with software development is that people who don't understand think It's trivial to make it well. You won't put badly made software into machines that can kill people. Typical software today is about 60% marketing hype 40% real engineering.
I charged next to that in a hotel car park near Warwick at the weekend thought it was a kit car old Land Rover owners will love it
Excellent! I want one!
I'd like to see an open rear bad too. Sometimes you just want to sling a bale or two of straw on the van without having to manoeuvre them through doors and whatnot.
Looks like the lovechild of a Bollinger and an Atlis XT... awesome!
I saw this today at FC South. One point the guy stressed was that range wasn't really an issue for where they envisage this being used, its about hours of use., He quoted 16 hours i think. After all where these are you aren't driving long distances but maybe for the best part of the day . I wish them all the best.
Fitted with Landover axial, suspension, wing mirrors rear view mirror aswell tail lights so easy access to parts
Scotlands answer to the Tesla cyber truck 🏴 I wish Munro well, our first car manufacturer in many a decade.
Great Tonka toy, and looks like it will do the business. Hope it sells well and turns farmers etc. onto EVs.
Think I just saw you guys in a tescos in Ayr. Car was massive!
Now that as you have rightly said is a replacement for the Defender. You can drive it off road without worrying about scratching the paint, scuffing the alloys, or getting mud on the cream interior like you would with the new Defender.
First part the stearing wheel is on the wrong side, LOL. Bring that Veh to Canada and do a winter test!
A good basic vehicle covering the basics without bells and whistles that gets you from a to b no matter the obstacles that lie between.
That's the best looking cast iron barn I have ever seen!
Love it! Any idea if they are planning on sales beyond the borders of Scotland(yes I believe it needs to be a nation into it's own again) and the UK & EU?
What a cool offroader. It's the Scottish Cybertruck! Love it's boxy looks and function, before form aesthetic.
Despite it being tailored towards performing in the Great Outdoors, I can see it being driven around Kensington perhaps with some aftermarket luxury goodies added, just for it's tough, menacing looks alone.😂
McTruck lol
Munro could well drive up Ben Nevis…….?
absolutely love this! id love to hang onto a simple car for ages, like a 1980 hilux, new. i bet theyll be worth similar money in 40 years too
I still have a 1997 Peugeot Expert. Last year they made entirely electromechanical vans. It is getting a bit knackered now though, and Euro II is no longer cool, so it'd be great to replace it with a fettlable E-Van with decent range. The Buzz has range but the fettlability is poor.
It might actually work underground, if it truly is built as strong as they say.
Lots of other vehicles come and go and have been tried, but the only long term vehicle that lasts is the Land Cruiser. I'm no Toyota fan, but that's the truth if it.
It would be a good market for Munro to persue in Australia, as mining companies look to clean up the underground air quality for the workers.
Customer: You have one job!
Munro: OK.
Nice job.
Now that the R&D on battery and motors has been done, products like this can come to market from smaller companies.
Okay, so where's the transmission driven winch to pull it out of ditches, deep snow or mud? And why on earth would the company even consider a 2 wheel drive version, given it's specifically designed for off road! Yup, lots of work yet to do.
Does it have pulsating LED seat belt buckles like the EQS? This is a MUST HAVE! 😆
Reminds me of the American Bollinger B1!
Amazing!
We need those here, in rural southeast Brazil 🇧🇷 where it’s cold, muddy, and has high mountains and heavy rain.
Very Land Roverish! Axles, suspension, mirrors, door hinges, etc... No Deafner though... :)
When I have worn out my bike tyers over the years I replace them with Gatorskin one's. So far I have never had a puncture with them.
Good one! Enjoyed that a lot
A sterling example of Scottish efficiency, genius and value.
Oh my 😍 what a thing of beauty!! They've nailed it, it's obviously a complete rip off of the LR Defender but that's 100% ok! Be good to see all the different versions (people carrier/van/both like in video and shorter versions) they are going do very very well! 👏🏻👌🏻💪🏻😎
having done greenlaning/4x4s for a few years there wont be any range anxiety from owners, 190 miles off tarmac and you would be dead in the seat and 3" shorter. mirrors and door hinges look very defender is it on a galv landy chassis or is it all new?
Now what we need is an electric reworking of the Africar vehicle concept from 1984 ...in particular the 6 wheeler based versions.
I appreciate the rather spartan interior, but it would be helpful if they had pre-wired switches installed similar to the Ineos Grenadier, so that when it does come time to add things like extra lights, winches, or even a siren/megaphone, the wiring is already there. Maybe also include some pre-wiring for radio antennae.
That said, I'm kind of surprised they're not using portal axles.
Funny how you matshed your looks to the car Jack. Verry rugget indeed hehe. Talking about rugget.. When do we get a portible home/camping battery report?
This looks like the kind of vehicle my brother would absolutely love to bits. Not my thing but dang is it cool and super capable.
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