RTX 4090 is MINDBLOWING 🤯 | INSANE CARD for SIMRACING, Triple 4k actually possible now?
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2024
- Today we are testing the brand new RTX 4090 for Simracing. Spoiler: it's insane and triple 4K is actually possible, at least on iRacing. Performance is absolutely mindblowing and due to the CPU bottleneck it mostly uses LESS power.
We are testing the card on iRacing and ACC on 1440p UW, 1080p Triples, 1440p Triples and 4K Triples. This card is SO fast that an overclocked 7950X actually is the bottleneck here.
I've been a little sick so I'll add the timecodes later!
Looks like the new 4090 has the goods. Looking forward to the VR comparison. Thanks for doing these benchmarks.
Literally the exact video I was searching for. I’m debating between 1440p triples vs 4K triples with my 3080ti and this helped so much! Thank you
Insane! Thanks for bringing sim racing benchmarks. Looking forward to the VR bench and the new i9 too, if you get one.
I know it would be a pain but I wanna see ACC same benchmarks but with the 5800x3d
Dan thanks so much for all the hard work. Finally someone bench marking Sim racing titles! I'm ready to upgrade and running triple 34"(7680 X 1440)@ 144hz it looks like the 4090 with Ryzen 7700 should be more than enough for iracing with a little head room. Coming from a 2080ti and 5820K cpu will be a well deserved worthwhile upgrade well over due.
I've been playing ACC on triple 4k OLEDs on a 3080ti with DLSS on and it's perfectly playable...no complaints at all. The 4090 will just take it to another level. Not sure why people think 60-100fps is "not playable".
Acc 20 cars in high preset in day night rains, how many fps?
around 65-70@@ranakirti
I’d be interested to know your graphics settings vs fps running the 3080ti.
I wouldn’t say 60-100fps is unplayable. But I would say there is a marked improvement when able to keep it above 90-100fps.
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Nice 1 Daniel. Was waiting for you to drop this.
Definitely hanging out for those VR benchmarks Dan! Thank you for these standard monitor benchmarks nonetheless, as they help give a bit of an idea how it'll perform on my 8KX headset. 👍
Very informative video , I play ACC in VR on a 3080ti and it's very demanding , I'm also a streamer and use a two PC setup because OBS can take up to 25% of the GPU simply by opening the app , I have a 4090 arriving Wednesday and looking forward to playing ACC on VR Epic settings and maintaining a good frame rate , thanks 👍
Those performance increases are crazy! I don't think the card would fit in any of my current builds with the rad mounted up front though haha
7800x3d will be the cpu to go with
I hope they make a 7950x3d
I am not sure I think you're better off with the i9 54900k
2300€. Now they gone really nuts. 3-4 years ago you could built an absolute high end PC for that money...
Thanks for this data!
This is the review I've been waiting for and I haven't even watched it yet!! Here we go!
Hi Dan, Any chance you could do some benchmarks on different CPUs. I'd be very interested to see how the 4090 goes with the 5800x3d vs 7950 vs 12900k. Particularly at triple 1440p or triple 4k. I race with a Pimax 8kx being driven by a 3080 and a 5600x, I'm keen to get an idea of how much extra I would get with a CPU upgrade as well as a 4090? or if I should just get a 4090 and skip this generation of CPUs
I was skeptical, but now... Holy moly... Need to get my hands on one!
Great stuff Dan, this is truly a game changer for simracing. If you have time, try a slight undervolt and see how much down on power you can go before you lose performance.
Some interesting results have been seen where perf might actually increase initially, with greatly reduced wattage. It would be interesting if this also could apply to triple screen scenarios. Keep up the good work!
@Jørgen Smith how do you think this is "game changing" 1440p to 4k isn't game changing. All were getting is sharper image and bit more fps. I have a 3080 and triple 1440p 170hz and never go below 60fps at the grid then some tracks I get upto 150fps most around 100 to 120fps.
Sorry but a game charger to me is being able to run a game above 60fps but going from 150fos to 200fps isn't a big deal at all.
My friend just got a 3090ti for £800 amd he gets over 140 to 170fps in iracing and AMS2 and he gets about 100 to 130fps on ACC if he wanted a 4090 he would have to spend another £1200 as they cost £2k in the UK at the moment and all he will see is about an extra 50fps maximum for £1200 more 🤣 people need to rethink what game changer means
Hi Dan, it would be nice if you showed your graphics settings both on iRacing and on the Nvidia panel so that all those like you (and like me) who have a 4090 can squeeze it to the maximum to have adequate detail but at the same time a level of frames per second high to be super smooth in game. Thank you.
Thanks Dan. Waiting to see what AMD RDNA 3 brings to the table.
Geil mann. VR benchmarks freue ich mich drauf
Hey Dan, thanks for benchmarking! Do you mind sharing your graphics settings you used for the triples tests?
That would be great if you can please Dan
I wont lie in sim racing you dont need more then 70 to 90fps. Ive found 0 difference in my laptomes and its super smooth. But sure itd very nice to be able to grt 120fps in 4k luckily my 4080 super does get very close to that. Like 118fps average. While the 4090 is 130fps average. So was closer then I expected.
As an ACC player, was hoping to see the significant boosts in fps for triples :( Such a brutal sim. Great video Dan!
Thank you for sharing Dan. Great review for simracers.
Have you tried it with the 5800x3d?
Starts are more CPU limited because you have more draw calls for more geometry
Currently have a 5800X3D, 4090, triple 1440p and for whatever reason the frames are capped at about 170 and I’m averaging around 130 and no matter what I do it doesn’t go any higher than 170FPS
May be a silly suggestion, not to mention ridiculously late seeing as though you posted this 8 months ago. 😂 but if you’re on IRacing, have you checked the graphic settings to ensure it’s not limited to 170fps?
Nice. A much needed upgrade from that old brick of a 3080TI
Get well soon Dan!
Did you notice stuttering and frame pacing issues when CPU limited or with capped FPS? I was concerned with 4090s for sim racing because Digital Foundry reported tons of frame pacing issues when the 4090 is not working at 100%, and I imagined (and you showed) the 4090 frequently can work at less than 100% for sim racing.
i got a 4090 and its less stuttering than the 3090 was initially
Great info! Thanks Dan.
Very nice man, love your work and the graphs you made are perfect. Im sticking with my 3080 for 1080p triples, will look to a new CPU though.
How the hell almost 60 fps by 2160p triples. With my setup 5800x not 3d, 32gb ddr 4 @ 3200 mhz and a 4090 of get about 70 fps on vr reverb g2, which is equivalent to 6k resolution. Do the CPU bottlenecking ? Openxr toolkit says frametimes for gpu over 11.1ms and for cpu below 11.1ms. Is it worth it to switch to Ryzen 7800x3d for ams2 and Acc?
thanks again Dan!
But 2 grand just for the card? Gaming is about to be for top society only
I have 3x2k triples with 3080 and 11700kf, 32gb ddr2. I bought 4090 and does not have such a high fps you you Dan. Am i heavily bottlenecked with cpu? I am thinking about build 13900k same as u have and ddr5 6000mhz …hope it will be on the same figures
Insane card for an insane price. £2k in the UK. I'll wait another year for it too drop then get one
$2200 Canadian so not cheap here either, AMD are doing their release on Wednesday let's see if they have anything interesting.
7950x with a 4090, new am5 mb, new psu and ddr5 6000…. Ours is not a cheap hobby, specially in Europe, where msrp is way higher then in USA these days.
As nice as 4k triples looks, I think this video has helped persuade me to lean toward a 1440p rig build w/ my 4090 -- just because I like to jump around to a lot of different titles, including ACC. (and soon, EVO) .. But then again, I guess 4k could perfectly scale down to 1080p and remain sharp..so that's still an option... Choices, choices!
What hdmi to displayport adapters are you using Dan?
Maybe I missed it … but did you do a triple 1440p test with DLSS on ?
Well done with the video …. Very informative 👍
Not heard anyone mention that RAM speed is so important for sim racing before. Why is it so important when in most games its a non factor?
With how far parts have come I now don't have to worry about can this run that or this, I can just built a new PC finally and upgrade to triple 4K screen's if I wanted. Thank you Dan was very helpful
Hi Dan. Great video. Do u use the club 3d DP-> HDMI adapters? Thanks
Hi Dan,
What’s your graphics settings on iRacing on the review please ?
Thank you Mr Suzuki! Could you please add your ram model in the description as it’s one of the most important pieces for sim racing, thank you
Thx for the testing Dan :) - you mentioned you will share your Iracing GFX settings, where can i see that? + do you cap / and adjust settings in NVCP too? (i doo) woudl love to see your NVCP settings too.
Looking forward to VR benchmarks. I'm amazed you were able to get a new cable for HP Reverb G2. It's been out of stock every time I've checked past 4 months...my reverb has been unusable since the cable died.
Did you just message them? That helped in my case - no idea of streamer benefit though
@@DanSuzuki I can try again but the first time I tried they basically said I'm out of luck because my reverb is out of warranty (pre-ordered on initial release)
@@DanSuzuki Were you able to get it for the regular $90 USD or the replacement part store cost of like $185 USD?
My dream would be 4 display ports and a HDMI port. Quit sick of unplugging a screen for VR
Great content. Thank you
I'm waiting for the RX 7900xt 🔥
De France. Bonjour jeune homme. Je te remercie encore une fois pour tes tests.
Great video man, love your content. Keep it up :)
Very nice video. Which graphic settings did you use for the games?
Could someone tell me how to connect three 4k 144hz monitors at the same time to a 4090? On UA-cam there are many videos where they show setups with 4k triples at 144hz, so there must be some way to do it, but no one says how to connect them. There is a limitation on the 4090 and only two monitors can be activated with DSC at a time. I'm trying triple 4k for simracing, but I'm about to give up.
I have got 4090 zotac and tripple Asus rog pg27uqr.
Does the 4090 ROG strix allow these 3 monitors to be connected?
hi dan ,what do you think of simucube active pedal that they are going to realese soon .kind regards henrik
Do you think you will be benchmarking the Intel Arc A770? I would be interested in performance in ACC, Rf2 and iRacing.
The flagship card from NVIDIA and AMD are insane, but at least for me the price is not justifiable anymore. But I really need to upgrade my dying 1080
Hi @Dan. Have you decided to go triple 1440p after a couple months? I imagine due to performance required to run triple 4k, but can you please comment?
Yes I went back to 32“ 1440p monitors
@@DanSuzukithanks. This is valuable info. Was it due to performance (fps) or other issues, like fov, input lag, or something else?
Dan do you have SMP enabled? Thank you I'll take the answer off air.
Hi Dan, What MB are you using for the 7950X ?
tests in dirt 2, rfactor 2, raceroom, automobilista 2? i have triple 7680 x 1440p, ryzen 5800x from what i see a 4090 will make a huge bottleneck on this 5800x processor and all the games named above, or I'm wrong?
Hi Dan. You can set 11520x2160p@120hz? I have a cables, monitor and 3080, and i cant set this, the monitors lost signal aleatory. At 60 hz ok. Please, how you can do this if possible.
By the way Dan, I was just wondering how close you are to iRacing's 8GB VRAM limit when using the 4K triples setup? Because that seems to equal 24,883,200 pixels if I'm not mistaken. However, when trying to supersample with my Pimax 8KX, from memory (I don't currently have a GPU to check), the most I could supersample to before iRacing would start culling ingame textures (because of being over iracing vram limit), was around 16,000,000 pixels (I know the 3090 is capable of around 20-30,000,000 in other sims). So, I was just curious as to how you have been able to push this many pixels without coming across the same issue? It kills me that this is the main sim I play and that it is the only sim I can't make full use of my VR headset/GPU on (let alone a 4090 lol). Thank you. If anyone else knows the answer to this also, please feel free to chime in. Much apreciated. 🙏🙂
yeaaaaah you done it. Thx
Thanks for the quality you put in the content.
Amazing video Dan! Posted up in our Discord! We'd love to see you try out this combo with a Varjo Aero (Although its rumoured to have some problems with the 4090 specifically at the moment) that would be great content. Very much looking forward to Thursdays 13th Gen release also do you plan on getting one?
Saw something about the 4090 that it still better in many scenarios if you run it on 60% power limit and it draws like 33% less power for like power lost about 10% in synthetic benchmarks so it’s most likely less for games would be nice to know how it performes under these scenarios and how the power draw is there
The 3090 and 3080ti are Sooo close in ACC?
It maybe mind blowing, but it is also damn expensive. Plus most will need a new computer system to fit it in. Money does not grow on trees and all this just to play games??? I will stick with the RTX-3080TI and live with what it provides.
I have seen enough reviews on the RTX-4090.
Hey Dan, I have RTX4090 triple monitor 4k setup and I'm only getting 90-100 FPS in Iracing. Do you have a video or some suggestions how to get more FPS? My triple monitors are
MSI G321CU, 32" Gaming Monitor, 3840 x 2160 (UHD)
No, iracing is just too old and too CPU dependent. Waiting for the AMD 9800X3D processor will help 😅
@@DanSuzuki aha thank you good advice! I am actually running the AMD 7950x3d now and it's still not enough haha! But it has no problem in 2k triple monitors getting 165+ fps maxed out graphics in Iracing. If you had a choice, would you stick with the 4k 100 fps or move to 2k with 165+ fps? Or would you recommend even just detuning the monitors to 2K for now in the hopes I can get better components later?
What graphics settings are you using for iracing to produce these framerates?
What are the game settings? Low, medium, high or ultra?
Hi Dan, Do you know the performance of 4070ti and 4080 on triple 1440p? I am looking forward you bench mark video.
No I don’t have those cards, sorry
Love to see this with a 7800x3d
That's weird I am running a 3090 with an i711700k running at 5.1, and I'm not getting near those numbers running triples at 1080. Could you please share the settings you using in iracing for the test?
many settings have big impacts - in iracing
Hi Dan,
Have the 4090RTX with 7680*1440p, but cannot reach your FPS, i am more around 95 1%low and 140 average
Could you may be share information about setting ?
its stupidly expensive, never worth 2.5k Euro.
But awesome video as usual again.
Is the 4090 an overkill for VR and odessey g9?
This GPU so far impressed me in VR, playing Pimax 8KX at it's normal FOV + rendering quality simply to max (2.0), running Max settings literally on Assetto Corsa or even ACC and does 90fps stable with just 5% of the time drops to 80fps, simply amazing makes Pimax alot better than what my 3080 was doing, I calculate approx 3X performance of 3080 in these games.....
F1 2022 VR is garbage so maxing it out it can do 90fps but issue is GPU chilling at 65% usage lol while quality is not as good as other games, the SS tech in F1 2022 with VR is rubbish
Do you testet iracing ? I have also a pimax 8kx and Upgraded From 3090 to 4090. And i have the Same Performance With bouth Cards. I guess its because iracings vram Limit From 8gb. With high settings and an 8kx this is Not enough.
@@christiandoninger5951 No I don't use Iracing but in Assetto Corsa + ACC definitely big improvement, just now was playing a session in Assetto Corsa in SOL night + weather + all the addons and busy server, all settings maxed to hell, not even single one I didn't max out lol, even ones say performance hit I tick them, FOV in normal and Rendering quality is 2.0 and I get 90fps 90% of the time, slight dips in parking or lots of crashes and smoking lol but not big deal
@@christiandoninger5951 Yes, I would love to know how to get around this lame iracing vram limit. Also a Pimax 8KX user, with 3090, and that memory slider basically makes the 3090 pointless on it. So frustrating, since it's the main sim I play, and all my other sims that I play much less, do not have this vram limitation issue. 😕
@@granthartley it’s Not possible. I asked pimax Support and they told me there is no way to Go over That Limit.
@@christiandoninger5951 yeah, I guess I was more so meaning iRacing support or the enthusiasts that are really experienced in using iRacing, as to being the ones that would be able to answer that question. But that’s still good to know, since Pimax does seem to be partners with them to some extent. So, thanks for the info mate. 👍
do you happen to know how many frames Racelabs Overlays tend to take up on a 1440 screen?
Danke für das Video 🎉
Hello
Thank you for this video and your work
I have almost the same configuration as you i9 12900 and 4090 with 3 2k Samsung odyssey g5 165h screens
I only manage to have 140 fps and when I’m on the stands I fall to 80 or 70 is what you can tell me if you put everything fully in settings or what you didn’t put like the mirrors....
This was nice but I guess most people would like to see the 4080 / 4070 results :)
@Mi Pe "but" as in he had a choice 🤣 he had to benchmark what was out and the 4080 and 4070 are not out yet
Can't wait for 2025 to pick up this card used at 600$ 🤣
What about VR performance?
The 3090 can comfortably handle all the benchmarks you threw at it here. Why not benchmark VR which is something people might want to upgrade for?
Kinda wish the results weren’t as good as this 🤣 much more FOMO now
Can you post your in game settings you used for these tests. Im having performance issues only in iRacing at 7680x1440p with my 4090 and think its a CPU bottleneck with my 12700k. I was doing better on my 3090
Did you fix or found solution for your problem?
@@L4szcZ yes had to lower a few settings that are CPU consumers. Because of iRacings ancient inefficient engine that is holding this hardware back
@@daveargentino8062 I am at position when thinking to buy 4090.
Because low fps like 60 on Sebring at night is not fun. Reading comments and figuring out if it's worth to buy it.
Glad you found solution for your problem 👍
Did you run the tests with Windows 11 or Windows 10?
you saved me a lot of trouble really good video thank you you did a good job
With a 4090/13900k/triple 4k, on ACC I have DLSS set to quality and use a mix of epic and high settings. I'm getting around 100-110 fps at the beginning of the race and around 130 after the first couple laps. Not sure why your frame rate is struggling so much.
Could someone tell me how to connect three 4k 144hz monitors at the same time to a 4090? On UA-cam there are many videos where they show setups with 4k triples at 144hz, so there must be some way to do it, but no one says how to connect them. There is a limitation on the 4090 and only two monitors can be activated with DSC at a time. I'm trying triple 4k for simracing, but I'm about to give up.
I have got 4090 zotac and tripple Asus rog pg27uqr.
Does the 4090 ROG strix allow these 3 monitors to be connected?
@@dcandelarioch8343 It should. Just use 3 display port cables to connect them.
@@jeffspencer8826 Same, I use 3 DP cables. Even I try diferente ways: 1HDMI+2DP, 2HDMI+1DP, other GPU (3070 with 3DP and 2HDMI). But the problem persist
@@jeffspencer8826 With 2 GPUs on the same PC it worked (connecting 1 monitor to the secondary GPU), but the 4090 greatly limits its performance and is not stable
@@dcandelarioch8343 Yeah, I’m not sure what the rest of your build looks like but something sounds off. I play every sim out there on triples and have no issues at all.
Can you (or anyone else for that matter) explain the max monitor refresh rate less 4 fps ???
i currently just cap to a round number just below the avg FPS i get
Hi boss.... you have video tutorial in your chanel about how to setup triple monitor step-by-step ? thanks
He does. just search his name and triple setup
I have a Matrox Mistique 4 Mb. Can I play to Assetto Corsa with triple monitors? :D
Hey that card is as old as iRacing, I would try that instead 😛
Only with a 3DFX Addon Card ☝️
@Jonas Jonaitis Yes, the 3DFX pushes frames from pixelsmear to graphic
Looks like a good time to get a 3090ti
Are you planning a vr comparison?
Uhm, he talks VR at the end. go watch
Aaaaaaand wallet goes boom 😁
I play with a 2080ti triple screen
Does it really RAM matter so much in iRacing? For Example 16 vs 32 GB ?
The amount not that much as the speed and timings
@@DanSuzuki have you published a similar memory speed comparison? Would be interested in your RAM recommendations
I hope people know it doesn't matter how many monitors you have a gpu doesn't lose any performance. It's just a video output and the only thing that matters is the specs of the system it's in.