Alright friendly folk who stumbled upon this video in the middle of the night, could I get your thoughts on my other channel? Looking for feedback, good bad or otherwise. Video below. 😬 ua-cam.com/video/qo3ZiUTWx6I/v-deo.html
Have a happy new years too ❤ and I’m always amazed the capability of this camera I’m got the custom mount for it and added a quick release just looking for a pistol grip than can slide on
Tge angular size of the waves is larger than the angular size of the bottom of the ship since the waves are much closer to the viewer, this allows short things to block taller things.
@@qkqk6954 nothing being blocked. Quit grasping for straws. If you want to prove your stupid little "theory" grab your p1000 and go to Kansas and show us Mount Everest.
All good mate, my pleasure. 2024, will be a bit different. Making it a goal to revive the other channel unless Nikon want to drop something interesting at CES in a couple of weeks.
@@BriansLogicI think I was a little higher up the Beach on the day but not a lot, tides out so I’m not sea level is probably a little lower. Also realising I have no idea how wave peaks are calculated. Is the base below sea level because of the motion of the ocean? I’d say maybe on par with the waves? The boat disappeared sporatically behind the odd peak so maybe a little higher at times?
@@nickradic Stand in front of a mirror and place your finger horizontally across your face; it covers about 5% of your face. Now, extend your arm about one meter and place your finger on the mirror; it appears to cover your entire face. Imagine this effect with random five-foot swells obstructing your field of vision.
yup, sped that part up. Couple of shots where the boat moves out of frame so I’ve cut between shots. Nothing added through it’s fairly rudimentary stuff
Based on official earth curvature calculations the ship’s first deck should have been almost 93 feet below the curvature of the earth. Absolutely none of the ship should’ve been visible. This categorically proves the earth is flat
Average Height of a cruise ship deck would be around 2.5m with room for the pipes and electrical. that's being generous for a ship like the Seabourn Odyssey. 2 decks are below the waterline, so to the top of the forward part of the ships passenger decks would be approx 23m. To the top of the rear pax deck would be about 20m. Add another 5m to the top of the smoke stack.
There is none. We know that the waves obscure the bottom of the ship, more as it moves away. The camera needs elevating to wave height but don't tell a globalist.
I think this was just a bit of offshore weather, it started raining not long after I finished filming but had been clear all day till I got down to the beach. Oh well, chalk one up to the weather gods. Have a great new year mate, what are you planning on covering in 2024?
@@SuperZoomVideos No idea yet, but have already recorded vocals over Christmas for upcoming titles that 'The VHBL Band' have invited me to do the vocals for. One is scheduled in January, the other in February. Not my place to let on the titles . . I have done several with the band in the past. All 'old school' musicians . . Check them out!
Can I ask, why does the ship still stay level and not dip at the front if it's curving, it's like driving in a car and you start to go down a Hill, your Front end of the car would obviously be below the level of the rear of the car. Just a thought. By the way, I'm not a Flat Earther lol
Well, technically it is dipping and angling as well, but 19km is like, 1/6th of a degree of Earth. So that'd mean, the ship has only dipped downward 0.16 degrees off your axis/line of sight. That sort of ratio just isn't noticeable. The ship will be completely obscured by curve before you ever could notice the shift of angle. 19km away (11 miles) there is roughly 80 feet of downward curve, a center arc of 20 feet, which is why 2/3rd the boat was obscured roughly, and a angle shift of 0.16 degrees. All across the span off nearly 60,000 feet (19km) that ratio is basically flat to our eyes, but still is curving with earth lol
I just woke up and I thought I was going to have to try and explain this but you did so much better than I was going to even attempt, please reward yourself by taking the rest of the day off work.
@@vigilante5569 Local man complains about a lack of tilt, never bothered to calculate what the tilt at less than 20km actually would be, pretends this is the only valid metric and not the very visible obstruction due to curvature.
The wind gets up and produces a swell in the waves. therefore the sea height is raised. Anything behind that would be obscured little by little as the ship gets further away.. WHY does anyone think it goes over a curve.. ?
Oh jesus. Please just watch the video again. This happens with every single ship regardless of swell. For Christ's sake just stop denying what you're seeing here.
@@Markhypnosis1 What are you talking about... these videos prove ships dont disapear under the horizon... the Nikon P1000 brings ships back into full view when they should not be able to be seen as due to Globe Theory!
@@kihealthandwellness We must be watching a different video, because what I see is the liner disappearing bottom first. And the guy shows a pictorial next to it to show how much of the ship is obscured. I think you'd better watch the video again. This is typical of flat earthers, you're shown categorical proof and your brains go into meltdown because you can't handle it....and STILL deny it. It's f**king pathetic!
@@kihealthandwellness What do you mean "begin to curve"? It's a constant curve, it doesn't begin anywhere. And you misunderstand the meaning of "level", it doesn't mean flat. It just means parallel to the earth's surface, or perpendicular to the downward force of gravity. That's how spirit levels work.....with liquid and gravity. But the earth is so huge that from our perspective it just seems flat, this is where the tiny minds of flat earthers go into meltdown. "It looks flat therefore it must be".
At 18kms away the ship should have been behind 25m of earth curvature! If the ship is 33m above the waterline why can we see the whole ship??? Can someone explain this? We should only see 9 metres of ship wben he was filming 1m high on the beach!
Because we have refraction (an atmosphere). Our atmosphere isn't just a single layer... when you get the refraction value of each height, you'll have different values, Increasing while you get higher. When you see at the physics book, you going to have only two phases, forming a straight line of light But if you have lots of layers (continue values between those two layers you saw in the book), you're going to have a curve. This curve is what makes us see beyond the geographic horizon.
At 18 km away you AREN'T seeing the whole ship. Also at 1 metre observer height the drop is actually 16.3 m. Meaning that the fact we're seeing roughly half the ship above the water checks out!
Yeah, if earth were flat "genius" we should see the whole ship when we zoom in. Yet we don't see the bottom at some point. It then disappears bottom first. Dishonest man u are.
Zooming in and seeing things doesn't mean earth is flat. It means zoom works ! ! ! ! ! If earth were flat, we should be able to zoom in to a ship in the distance and see THE WHOLE SHIP. Yet every time, the ships bottom is missing whilst the ship dips bottom first out of sight. Hey, try this - go out at 2am in the dead of night and zoom the sun back in seeing as you dishonest lot claim that it moves. Would really love to see that.
What flat earth, you can clearly see the tug hull first, the name and port of the ship and after that part of the hull disappearing behind the curvature of the earth. As everything on a clear day slowly disappears behind the curvature of the earth, the highest things the last. I have never seen proof of a flat earth in all my time as a sailor, more than 30 years. This film is perfect proof of a globe, there is no way the earth is flat it is completely impossible and totally debunked over and over again.
@@janenmarelia🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ you fool do you not understand on a globe you can travel along the equator on a straight path. On a flat if you travel along the equator on a Straight path will deviate 8 inches/ square mile. Guess what you can’t travel along the equator on a straight path and stay on course of the equator. Therefore we are not on a globe.
@@mikemental8285 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ all Abrahamic religions say the earth is flat because they have a dome firmament over the earth. 2) we literally have video footage of Apollo 11 astronauts allegedly on the way to the moon faking their distance to the moon and using the space vessel window to crop a globe.
@@Angularsize So we can't resolve the big bit at the bottom, but we can still resolve the smaller bit at the top, despite them both being the same distance away?
@@A15degreeperhourdrift All your telling me is that you don't understand perspective and vanishing points, the bit at the top has a larger viewing angle.
@@Angularsize Both bits have got the same viewing angle, which is the angle of vision of the viewers eyesight. There's something in the way for the bottom half. Just for the sake of clarity, am I speaking to a fraud or a moron, unfortunately they both come across the same on the internet.
Thanks for your good work🙏🏼 I am neither a flat-earther nor a globalist. So to me, there are two obvious things that speak against each others: 1: The vanishing of some heigt is proven, by what ever effect, but what seems the most probable guess is that we live on a globe. 2. The angle of the decks remains levelled to the horizon, what could never ever happen with an object curving out of sight. The observed angle of the hole ship should continuously chance with the distance, refereing to the right angle of the ship with the line to the globe's middle below it. So this video proofs both or nothing - guys, we really have to think about some very confusing stuff here and should not be in a fight of opinions! The decks are hidden by the estimated 15 meters, but the angle is still the same! What in all the world is going on here?
@@rudigerstein135 The rate of tilt is one degree every 111 km distance from an observer. You get it by dividing the circumference of the Earth by 360°. Now that we have the rate of tilt, what's the tilt at 20 km?
Great video! I have come to the conclusion again and again we live on a level and horizontal plane. I live by the sea and have a good look out all the time. Beautiful views. If there really was a curve you would definitely see it because what seems to never be factored in is how perspective works. Further distances are already compressed more together in our field of vision. So this would allow the curve to be quite dramatically seen at these further distances. I can see the Isle of Wight which is 39 miles away and the other way towards Beachy Head which is a little less distant and I never observe any curve over the sea. Even the wind turbines which range from 8-12 miles out. They only appear slightly shorter the further out they go due to perspective. Curve would actually obscure their structures partially and increasingly so the further out they are. Anyway i don’t know what you opinion is but I think the P900 camera is amazing for zoom! That’s for sure!! And the P1000. All the best 🙂
Don't be silly. If earth were flat, zooming in on that ship would show the entire ship - yet zooming in and the bottom is not visible. With time the ship disappears bottom first. Stop being dishonest.
Well 19km is a 28.32 meter drop. Yet it is still mostly visible. We can expect the sea waves to greatly obscure the view, especially the further out a ship is. Well put it this way if you took that ship and moved it up by 28.32 meters would it now be level or would it be up from you? Although on a day when the water is more still it is easier to test.
@@BoshyJoshy96 Irrelevant! if earth was flat, zooming in should reveal THE WHOLE SHIP. The bottom is COMPLETELY INVISIBLE. Your play on words is dismissed. Spare me the "sea waves obscuring the view" nonsense - there aren't giant waves in that footage obscuring anything and THE SAME APPLIES to every ship out there that disappears bottom first. It's rather amazing that EVERY SINGLE TIME giant waves just happen to obscure the bottom - either that or you flat earthers are shameless liars.
@@BoshyJoshy96 it’s a 28 meter drop ignoring refraction. It’s 24 m including standard refraction (over water at this low observer height, you get more refraction). But only 15 meters is hidden. That matches what we see in the video.
The horizon is a circle with you at the center. This circle is only a few meters below your eye level. The only curvature you see directly is this circle curving around you. This is not visible to the naked eye, but can be seen by taking a photo (the wider the angle, the better) and then downscaling it on the horizontal axis only.
@@MacXpert74 swells and waves. Small waves that are much closer to the viewer have a larger angular size than the bottom of the ship when its very far, thats why they can block the view to larger things that are very far away.
This proves what ALWAYS happens over a level surface, the bottom disappears first due to unresolved angular resolution. This is perspective law few seem to learn or test for themselves anymore. Water is level. Every ocean and every lake is level. You can test this yourself at a track and have someone go away from you with the camera down near ground level and their feet will disappear first.
Angular resolution doesn't have a bottom bias like that. If you can see the ship, you should see the WHOLE ship on a Flat Earth. Otherwise the Moon would have a chunk taken out of it at all times. You have no idea what up and down are, do you
@@mrnaris4852 kidding about upright camera, but anyway, we’ve never seen that perspective from space. I do have an AA in Natural Science and an AS in Engineering/Design Drafting and completed flight ground school (soloed too). I also don’t believe my ancestors were from stardust, scum or monkeys, so I don’t know how much more you have to consider about reality and your source of truth.
@@kathyweckerle6880 We have seen that perspective from space. If you really have those degrees you say you do, then i guess you are pretty good at using ChatGPT, because there is no way you got them by studying if you don't even know the basics of middle school science classes. Also, humans didn't come from monkey, that's not what science believes. There's very strong evidence that humans and monkeys both evolved from a common ancestor, one that wasn't a monkey nor a human. Scientists don't just "believe" stuff, they collect data, analyse, study and then come to conclusions, if those conclusions prove wrong, they will start over. Science is based on *evidence,* not belief.
@dwiranu5394 There are NO actual Flat Earth "believers" belief is for the Glow ball cult of Scientism, nasa nerds, and atheist trans we Todd kings! Once you know it's mostly flat... there is no going back! You can't make somebody believe in Santa again once they figure out it's all BS!
Nicely done sir, now i will sit and await the flat earthers no doubt trying to debunk what you have clearly just shown to be a curve, as for the second ship, just guessing it would be one of the Seabourn vessels as they seem to do alot of cruises around that area....
I think it was one of the tankers or cargo ships on the way in from I want to say Tauranga, again had a bunch of screen shots but not a single one with the name 😂 they do have that distinctive flat deck with the long neck (yes I am clearly a boat jargon expert) up to the bridge, makes it really easy to see it emerging even with that short clip. I was cursing my slowly dying battery that day. Pre coffee and everything.
@malcy34 If you think this was due to the "curve of the Globe" you should probably check the numbers again... Is you Globe the size of Jupiter or what? Maybe you should learn about angular resolution and the effects of perspective before spouting a bunch of BS about a magic Glow ball in a vacuum that somehow has no measurable curvature at the surface... 830 mile Microwave transmission LORA debunked the Globe!
as the ship gets smaller the waves un front of the camera look bigger and bigger, do these experiment with a camera that has half the zoom and is going to look like the boat "sinks" twice as fast.
Why do globers always film at full zoom? Please do a video only partially zoomed in, wait for a boat to start dipping from view then zoom in further, then you will show the reality that the horizon is your maximum line of sight along ground/sea level and by zooming in you are extending your line of sight and the boat will be fully visible again, it is not a curve. This can be done up to around 15-20 miles before atmospheric conditions/density will no longer allow you to see further.
Exactly what difference would filming at full zoom 100% of the time vs filming at full zoom only 50% of the time make on the drop of the ship, and why? Y'also notice how half of the ship was gone by 18-20 km?
@@jamaldeep13 Because when you are already at full zoom the boat will obviously go further away than you can see in your line of sight at ground/sea level. If you partially zoom in to a boat fully visible on the horizon, wait for it to start disappearing bottom up you can then zoom in further to extend your line of sight to see the bottom of the boat again. You cannot do this if you are already at full zoom can you.
@@liftingtheveil8361 The issue is that zoom doesn't lift the boat. What makes you think that's how that works, anyway? Zoom only makes things appear bigger.
@@mrnaris4852 I think you need to take the course again. And a course to overcome cognitive dissonance might help as you clearly have a mental block against common sense and observable reality that even you can check for yourself. If you cannot understand that your line of sight along ground/sea level depends on your height above the ground there is no explaining it to you. Try it, you might learn something. How far can I see along a flat road if I put my eyes near the ground and how much further can I see if I stand up and look along the road? hmmm
This does not prove earth is a ball. The further the ships goes out the smaller the ship appears and the bigger the waves appear in front. It's not going over any horizon It's simply getting smaller.
@@asor8037 In 2500 years, nobody has presented a single shred of evidence that shows Earth is flat. Instead, we have millions of measurements, experiments and observations that show Earth is a sphere.
Stand before a mirror and hold your finger horizontally close to your face; it obscures roughly 5% of your face. Then, extend your arm about one meter and position your finger in front of your face, while standing two meters from the mirror; it seems to cover your entire face. Picture this phenomenon with random five-foot swells blocking your view.
Nice try, last time I stood in front of a mirror it ended with a poison apple and being followed around 7 old short guys with questionable facial grooming.
Wait, are you trying to rationalize why the ship is sinking lower and lower, even though there are people that claim you should use a P1000 to zoom into ships on the horizon to see them appear, even though they seemed to disappear below the horizon? Do you ever feel like claiming the earth is flat is giving you a sense of control over your life or a sense of belonging in a world of chaos? I'm just trying to find out why people act like this and make up their own facts
Las olas también disminuyen su tamaño aparente con la distancia. Un observador con la vista a 2 m sobre el agua, podría comprobar que una ola de 1 m de altura situada sobre la línea del horizonte, podría ocultar 4 m de altura de un barco situado a 20 km de distancia, si la tierra fuera plana (y existiera una línea de horizonte visible en ese fantástico mundo, claro). Pero en la tierra real, esa ola ocultaría 4 metros también, más los 15 metros que se ocultarían tras la línea del horizonte, debido a la curvatura terrestre. Es decir, 19 metros de barco desde esa posición desaparecerían.
@@A15degreeperhourdrift you cant have your cake and it eat too. If the angle is to small to lean the ship visibly, it follows that it also too small to make the ship "disappear under the horizon". Simply logic, no word salad needed.
Haha you get the same effect without a camera at much smaller distances. Look at a zodiac from the beach 100m at sea vs close to the beach and it would disappear bottom up. There is no relevant curvature at that distance but the same effect is visible. Can you explain how according to any calculation you make more than half of the ship should've been invisible at 15km?
The video is literally the thing you are asking to have explained. At 14.5km approximately 16.5m of the ship is obscured, I say approximately because I don’t have a giant tape measure. Maybe one day
N. horizon nn. 🧐👉.5km left l ⛵ 5km right 👈🥸 I 👆 🤔 center 5 + 5 = 10 km absolutely flat In reality, from a height of 5 m, the horizon in profile is visible up to 15 km on both sides. And it is clear that it is absolutely flat.The person in the center should see that the ship is completely hidden behind the hump of water. But in reality, this is not the case
Alright friendly folk who stumbled upon this video in the middle of the night, could I get your thoughts on my other channel? Looking for feedback, good bad or otherwise. Video below. 😬
ua-cam.com/video/qo3ZiUTWx6I/v-deo.html
Have a happy new years too ❤ and I’m always amazed the capability of this camera I’m got the custom mount for it and added a quick release just looking for a pistol grip than can slide on
@@DpacOP awesome, I think you have a better setup than me already. Have a great 2024 buddy.
@@SuperZoomVideos thank you 🫶🏻 and noo you got a much better setup than me mate I couldn’t get these steady shots
@@DpacOP nah that’s just practice, I don’t think I have a single tripod that’s weighted for this camera.
@@SuperZoomVideos I need to practice more because I do have a 17kg tripod not carrying that around. And what’s the best usb dummy battery I can get
Your video was helpful in proving and clarifying a lot of things, thank you for sharing it. ❤
I only wish the weather had played ball. Thanks for watching 🙂
What did it prove and clarify?
@@multispeciesangler The earth is round
@@multispeciesangler Water vapour is a nuisance when shooting far away.
@@robertcarey3383 it proved opposite
Thank you for having an honest channel using these cameras. Sick of cherry picked flerfer "evidence" other channels have
😂😭 honestly not what I thought this channel would become, I didn’t have any idea what I was aiming for but it wasn’t this.
@@SuperZoomVideos well played.
Tge angular size of the waves is larger than the angular size of the bottom of the ship since the waves are much closer to the viewer, this allows short things to block taller things.
@@qkqk6954 nothing being blocked. Quit grasping for straws. If you want to prove your stupid little "theory" grab your p1000 and go to Kansas and show us Mount Everest.
@@qkqk6954😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Quit grasping little man. Want to prove your theory? Go to Kansas with your P1000 and record Mt Everest.
Cool video mate-interesting insight along the way-Hope you have a Happy new year and thanks for all the videos this year 🎉
All good mate, my pleasure. 2024, will be a bit different. Making it a goal to revive the other channel unless Nikon want to drop something interesting at CES in a couple of weeks.
at 2.15 there is a red buoy. Do you know how far away that is?
Also, what was the observer height?
The buoy I’m not sure and I was pretty close to sea level, very small tripod in the sand as shown at the start of the video
do zooming from busan (south korea) to shimayama island (japan) next!
Wow you really jinxed both those places
How high were the waves, as they kicked up? :)
Eyeballing it I think only a couple meters.
@@SuperZoomVideos seems like a good guess. I could choose the "curve" or the waves to make this seem like what I say is what really happens ;)
@@SuperZoomVideosSo the waves were higher than your camera at 1:04 ?
@@BriansLogicI think I was a little higher up the Beach on the day but not a lot, tides out so I’m not sea level is probably a little lower.
Also realising I have no idea how wave peaks are calculated. Is the base below sea level because of the motion of the ocean? I’d say maybe on par with the waves? The boat disappeared sporatically behind the odd peak so maybe a little higher at times?
Amazing idea for a video. This would be great also on a nice calm sunny day. Thank you enjoyed this.
That’s why I included the disclaimer and the extra clip at the end :)
You know exactly what you're doing ;)
What…..me……..never 😉
At that distance shouldn't most of ship be obscured by the curvature, yet most of it is visible.
@@nickradic WRONG..ther is not any curvature
@@vigilante5569 ...sure and this ship is submarine 🤣😂🤣😂
@@nickradic Stand in front of a mirror and place your finger horizontally across your face; it covers about 5% of your face. Now, extend your arm about one meter and place your finger on the mirror; it appears to cover your entire face. Imagine this effect with random five-foot swells obstructing your field of vision.
Incredible!
😬
Hey what’s that edit at 2:01 ????
Sped the video up as the ship turns into the channel, otherwise we would all be here for 15 minutes while its turned.
@@SuperZoomVideos So you edited it ?
yup, sped that part up. Couple of shots where the boat moves out of frame so I’ve cut between shots. Nothing added through it’s fairly rudimentary stuff
What's the earth curvature formula again? Why is that ship visible at such distance? We shouldn't be able to see it...
Really?
Please show your calculations.
8.6 cm per km2, so at a distance of 11 km it should be 10 meters or ⅓ of the height of the ship, roughly fits the observation.
Do you mean this "8inch per mile squared", that circulated in flat earther's arguments?
That is a formula for parabola
@@yeah_okido should be pointing down by 0.1°, not really visible at this resolution
By 18km distance and 1m observer height the drop is 16.3 m
Happy New year zoom boy 😘
That’s zoom man to you mate 😬 Happy New Year!
3:00 At this point, the surrounding flat Earthers began hammering the local 911 office to report a sinking ship.
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Based on official earth curvature calculations the ship’s first deck should have been almost 93 feet below the curvature of the earth. Absolutely none of the ship should’ve been visible. This categorically proves the earth is flat
This is a good content... Keep it up!
Thanks buddy
I have the same camera, and the earth is in fact a sphere. ;) Thanks for the video!
*poking 🐻* 😂
meanwhile this video prove opposite :D funny
@proberse5393 this video "prove" opposite? 🤔 Kindly explain.
@@WeissRC did u watch it? :D maybe u need new glasses
@@proberse5393 yep, watched it. Can you answer the question?
Average Height of a cruise ship deck would be around 2.5m with room for the pipes and electrical. that's being generous for a ship like the Seabourn Odyssey. 2 decks are below the waterline, so to the top of the forward part of the ships passenger decks would be approx 23m. To the top of the rear pax deck would be about 20m. Add another 5m to the top of the smoke stack.
And it still gradually goes over horozon line...
Flat earthers: horizon is paid actor
😂
u just saw horizon is only optical phenomenon, but u ignore it ? :D okey
@@proberse5393 The mere existence of a horizon is proof of the globe. I wanna hear your logic on this.
where is the curvature?
are you blind?
@@mateusoliveira5286 are you stupid?
"Are you gonna be my Girl" Dun dun dun.... dun dun.. dun dun dun
There is none. We know that the waves obscure the bottom of the ship, more as it moves away. The camera needs elevating to wave height but don't tell a globalist.
@@deanhall6045Question for you: why did mariners in the Age of Sail use the terms “hull up” and “hull down”?
Yep . .Air pollution's a killer for this kind of photography . . Nice one my friend, and a Happy new Year to you and yours! 👍
I think this was just a bit of offshore weather, it started raining not long after I finished filming but had been clear all day till I got down to the beach. Oh well, chalk one up to the weather gods.
Have a great new year mate, what are you planning on covering in 2024?
@@SuperZoomVideos No idea yet, but have already recorded vocals over Christmas for upcoming titles that 'The VHBL Band' have invited me to do the vocals for. One is scheduled in January, the other in February. Not my place to let on the titles . . I have done several with the band in the past. All 'old school' musicians . . Check them out!
@@Tailracehero hahaha good man, sounds like you are a busy man. Will keep an eye out
Is water vapour pollution now?
Thanks to your video, I really realized that the earth is flat❤
Flat earthers be like:
Uuuuh, its the render distance.... uuuhh our eyes have a limited rendwr distance just liek miencraft...
"ship is sinking"
@@_l3m35_ Lol, imagine if they actually used that as an argument 😅
@@mrnaris4852 They are, there is a guy saying exactly this somewhere around here.
@@_l3m35_ ig the guy believes every single boat to ever go under the horizon just sunk to the bottom of the ocean then . _ .
@@mrnaris4852if Its true, u can't see milimeter of this boat...heh
Can I ask, why does the ship still stay level and not dip at the front if it's curving, it's like driving in a car and you start to go down a Hill, your Front end of the car would obviously be below the level of the rear of the car. Just a thought. By the way, I'm not a Flat Earther lol
Well, technically it is dipping and angling as well, but 19km is like, 1/6th of a degree of Earth. So that'd mean, the ship has only dipped downward 0.16 degrees off your axis/line of sight. That sort of ratio just isn't noticeable. The ship will be completely obscured by curve before you ever could notice the shift of angle. 19km away (11 miles) there is roughly 80 feet of downward curve, a center arc of 20 feet, which is why 2/3rd the boat was obscured roughly, and a angle shift of 0.16 degrees. All across the span off nearly 60,000 feet (19km) that ratio is basically flat to our eyes, but still is curving with earth lol
I just woke up and I thought I was going to have to try and explain this but you did so much better than I was going to even attempt, please reward yourself by taking the rest of the day off work.
@@AverageJoeGlobeR This is why I love nerds lol, 🙏🏼, really appreciate the explanation!!!
Are you smarter yet champ?
For each 69 miles the angle is ONLY ONE degree !!! THE EARTH IF F_____G BIG OK?
We can see that the boat is moving downwards, proof that the earth is indeed round :)
So Earth is round ?!
😂💩🥣
of course NO, oterwise you will see the back of the boat higher ..doing a round curve,
@@vigilante5569 Local man complains about a lack of tilt, never bothered to calculate what the tilt at less than 20km actually would be, pretends this is the only valid metric and not the very visible obstruction due to curvature.
Looks like the ship rises above the horizon line towards the end
Well, it doesn't
@@mrnaris4852 I clearly see it above the horizon.
@@madogmabz what do you really mean?
@@mrnaris4852 just look at the ship and the horizon line.Its clearly above the horizon.
6 min in its above the horizon.
The wind gets up and produces a swell in the waves. therefore the sea height is raised. Anything behind that would be obscured little by little as the ship gets further away.. WHY does anyone think it goes over a curve.. ?
Oh jesus. Please just watch the video again. This happens with every single ship regardless of swell. For Christ's sake just stop denying what you're seeing here.
@@Markhypnosis1 What are you talking about... these videos prove ships dont disapear under the horizon... the Nikon P1000 brings ships back into full view when they should not be able to be seen as due to Globe Theory!
@@kihealthandwellness We must be watching a different video, because what I see is the liner disappearing bottom first. And the guy shows a pictorial next to it to show how much of the ship is obscured. I think you'd better watch the video again. This is typical of flat earthers, you're shown categorical proof and your brains go into meltdown because you can't handle it....and STILL deny it. It's f**king pathetic!
@@Markhypnosis1 Hey... According to Globe Theory...at what expanse does WATER LEVEL begin to curve? 🤜💣💥
@@kihealthandwellness What do you mean "begin to curve"? It's a constant curve, it doesn't begin anywhere. And you misunderstand the meaning of "level", it doesn't mean flat. It just means parallel to the earth's surface, or perpendicular to the downward force of gravity. That's how spirit levels work.....with liquid and gravity.
But the earth is so huge that from our perspective it just seems flat, this is where the tiny minds of flat earthers go into meltdown. "It looks flat therefore it must be".
At 18kms away the ship should have been behind 25m of earth curvature! If the ship is 33m above the waterline why can we see the whole ship??? Can someone explain this? We should only see 9 metres of ship wben he was filming 1m high on the beach!
Because we have refraction (an atmosphere). Our atmosphere isn't just a single layer... when you get the refraction value of each height, you'll have different values, Increasing while you get higher. When you see at the physics book, you going to have only two phases, forming a straight line of light
But if you have lots of layers (continue values between those two layers you saw in the book), you're going to have a curve. This curve is what makes us see beyond the geographic horizon.
At 18 km away you AREN'T seeing the whole ship.
Also at 1 metre observer height the drop is actually 16.3 m. Meaning that the fact we're seeing roughly half the ship above the water checks out!
they let them stole their senses and they are lying to themselves :D
Dude is doing meth instead of math
@@felipesb2 Word salad.
Thank you for proving the earth is flat
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Your best video to date! Love it man.
I know you are not a flat earther, but damn after seen this you might want to look into it mate. Blessings
Am I that obvious? I think I’m good buddy 😂 blessings back at ya and have a happy new year
Hmmm.. this video actually disproves the flat earth theory. How are you not seeing this?
Yeah, if earth were flat "genius" we should see the whole ship when we zoom in. Yet we don't see the bottom at some point. It then disappears bottom first. Dishonest man u are.
Zooming in and seeing things doesn't mean earth is flat. It means zoom works ! ! ! ! ! If earth were flat, we should be able to zoom in to a ship in the distance and see THE WHOLE SHIP. Yet every time, the ships bottom is missing whilst the ship dips bottom first out of sight. Hey, try this - go out at 2am in the dead of night and zoom the sun back in seeing as you dishonest lot claim that it moves. Would really love to see that.
@@Frankly747 that would be the point of the video
If you zoomed in you would see the whole ship 😊
I am zoomed in and that’s not how that works 🤦🏼♂️
18Kms and still can see it through such rough conditions. More proof for flat earth. Keep up the good work.
What flat earth, you can clearly see the tug hull first, the name and port of the ship and after that part of the hull disappearing behind the curvature of the earth.
As everything on a clear day slowly disappears behind the curvature of the earth, the highest things the last.
I have never seen proof of a flat earth in all my time as a sailor, more than 30 years.
This film is perfect proof of a globe, there is no way the earth is flat it is completely impossible and totally debunked over and over again.
@@janenmarelia🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ you fool do you not understand on a globe you can travel along the equator on a straight path.
On a flat if you travel along the equator on a Straight path will deviate 8 inches/ square mile.
Guess what you can’t travel along the equator on a straight path and stay on course of the equator. Therefore we are not on a globe.
There are zero reasons to believe in flat earth
@@mikemental8285 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ all Abrahamic religions say the earth is flat because they have a dome firmament over the earth.
2) we literally have video footage of Apollo 11 astronauts allegedly on the way to the moon faking their distance to the moon and using the space vessel window to crop a globe.
Im open to that possibility
Ближние волны, на фоне уменьшающегося корабля, становя тся всё больше, и закрывают дно корабля. Возможно и так
I’m always right 😉
Если бы снимали видео, когда был штиль, то было бы по-другому.
You just destroyed my flat earth fetish😢
Thats okay mate, plenty of other fetishes out there, have you considered gold fish? Something a bit different.
Either that ship went over the horizon or it sunk!
Sunk :(
Angular Resolution caused the bottom to be unresolvable.
@@Angularsize So we can't resolve the big bit at the bottom, but we can still resolve the smaller bit at the top, despite them both being the same distance away?
@@A15degreeperhourdrift All your telling me is that you don't understand perspective and vanishing points, the bit at the top has a larger viewing angle.
@@Angularsize Both bits have got the same viewing angle, which is the angle of vision of the viewers eyesight.
There's something in the way for the bottom half.
Just for the sake of clarity, am I speaking to a fraud or a moron, unfortunately they both come across the same on the internet.
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Спасибо за поддержку земли по Фергюсону.
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That ship is sinking.
You’ll never make Charles Mountain with that attitude
Yep, sinking into the horizon :D
@@SuperZoomVideos Don't have a clue.
Thanks for your good work🙏🏼
I am neither a flat-earther nor a globalist.
So to me, there are two obvious things that speak against each others:
1: The vanishing of some heigt is proven, by what ever effect, but what seems the most probable guess is that we live on a globe.
2. The angle of the decks remains levelled to the horizon, what could never ever happen with an object curving out of sight. The observed angle of the hole ship should continuously chance with the distance, refereing to the right angle of the ship with the line to the globe's middle below it.
So this video proofs both or nothing - guys, we really have to think about some very confusing stuff here and should not be in a fight of opinions!
The decks are hidden by the estimated 15 meters, but the angle is still the same!
What in all the world is going on here?
2.- Did you ever try to CALCULATE that angle? What makes you so certain there's no tilt at all just by eyeballing it?
@@jamaldeep13 Probably the change is too small to be seen from eye...
@@rudigerstein135 Let's think for a moment. What would be the rate of tilt depending on distance?
@@jamaldeep13 All we know is, that the ship always must be in a 90 degrees angle to the vertical axis...
@@rudigerstein135 The rate of tilt is one degree every 111 km distance from an observer. You get it by dividing the circumference of the Earth by 360°.
Now that we have the rate of tilt, what's the tilt at 20 km?
Great video! I have come to the conclusion again and again we live on a level and horizontal plane. I live by the sea and have a good look out all the time. Beautiful views. If there really was a curve you would definitely see it because what seems to never be factored in is how perspective works. Further distances are already compressed more together in our field of vision. So this would allow the curve to be quite dramatically seen at these further distances. I can see the Isle of Wight which is 39 miles away and the other way towards Beachy Head which is a little less distant and I never observe any curve over the sea. Even the wind turbines which range from 8-12 miles out. They only appear slightly shorter the further out they go due to perspective. Curve would actually obscure their structures partially and increasingly so the further out they are. Anyway i don’t know what you opinion is but I think the P900 camera is amazing for zoom! That’s for sure!! And the P1000. All the best 🙂
Don't be silly. If earth were flat, zooming in on that ship would show the entire ship - yet zooming in and the bottom is not visible. With time the ship disappears bottom first. Stop being dishonest.
Well 19km is a 28.32 meter drop. Yet it is still mostly visible. We can expect the sea waves to greatly obscure the view, especially the further out a ship is. Well put it this way if you took that ship and moved it up by 28.32 meters would it now be level or would it be up from you? Although on a day when the water is more still it is easier to test.
@@BoshyJoshy96 Irrelevant! if earth was flat, zooming in should reveal THE WHOLE SHIP. The bottom is COMPLETELY INVISIBLE. Your play on words is dismissed. Spare me the "sea waves obscuring the view" nonsense - there aren't giant waves in that footage obscuring anything and THE SAME APPLIES to every ship out there that disappears bottom first. It's rather amazing that EVERY SINGLE TIME giant waves just happen to obscure the bottom - either that or you flat earthers are shameless liars.
@@BoshyJoshy96 it’s a 28 meter drop ignoring refraction. It’s 24 m including standard refraction (over water at this low observer height, you get more refraction). But only 15 meters is hidden. That matches what we see in the video.
The horizon is a circle with you at the center. This circle is only a few meters below your eye level. The only curvature you see directly is this circle curving around you. This is not visible to the naked eye, but can be seen by taking a photo (the wider the angle, the better) and then downscaling it on the horizontal axis only.
Yep it’s FLAT even after many Globe attempts, it’s still FLAT :)
So the ship was sinking then. 🤷♂🤡😂
@@MacXpert74 Where did you see that happening ?
@@BriansLogicYou didn't watch the video?
@@MacXpert74 The Flat Earth proof video lol :)
@@MacXpert74 swells and waves. Small waves that are much closer to the viewer have a larger angular size than the bottom of the ship when its very far, thats why they can block the view to larger things that are very far away.
This proves what ALWAYS happens over a level surface, the bottom disappears first due to unresolved angular resolution. This is perspective law few seem to learn or test for themselves anymore. Water is level. Every ocean and every lake is level.
You can test this yourself at a track and have someone go away from you with the camera down near ground level and their feet will disappear first.
Angular resolution doesn't have a bottom bias like that. If you can see the ship, you should see the WHOLE ship on a Flat Earth. Otherwise the Moon would have a chunk taken out of it at all times.
You have no idea what up and down are, do you
Did you ever even go to school?
@@mrnaris4852 kidding about upright camera, but anyway, we’ve never seen that perspective from space. I do have an AA in Natural Science and an AS in Engineering/Design Drafting and completed flight ground school (soloed too).
I also don’t believe my ancestors were from stardust, scum or monkeys, so I don’t know how much more you have to consider about reality and your source of truth.
@@kathyweckerle6880 We have seen that perspective from space.
If you really have those degrees you say you do, then i guess you are pretty good at using ChatGPT, because there is no way you got them by studying if you don't even know the basics of middle school science classes.
Also, humans didn't come from monkey, that's not what science believes. There's very strong evidence that humans and monkeys both evolved from a common ancestor, one that wasn't a monkey nor a human.
Scientists don't just "believe" stuff, they collect data, analyse, study and then come to conclusions, if those conclusions prove wrong, they will start over. Science is based on *evidence,* not belief.
Level means curved.
Flat earth believers left the chat.
Ohhhh I’m sure they are on their way 😂
@dwiranu5394 There are NO actual Flat Earth "believers" belief is for the Glow ball cult of Scientism, nasa nerds, and atheist trans we Todd kings! Once you know it's mostly flat... there is no going back! You can't make somebody believe in Santa again once they figure out it's all BS!
Why leave? This shows flat 👍🙂have a great new year guys
Nope becouse we are right
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😂 mate I wish I was that talented
Nicely done sir, now i will sit and await the flat earthers no doubt trying to debunk what you have clearly just shown to be a curve, as for the second ship, just guessing it would be one of the Seabourn vessels as they seem to do alot of cruises around that area....
I think it was one of the tankers or cargo ships on the way in from I want to say Tauranga, again had a bunch of screen shots but not a single one with the name 😂 they do have that distinctive flat deck with the long neck (yes I am clearly a boat jargon expert) up to the bridge, makes it really easy to see it emerging even with that short clip. I was cursing my slowly dying battery that day. Pre coffee and everything.
@malcy34
If you think this was due to the "curve of the Globe" you should probably check the numbers again... Is you Globe the size of Jupiter or what? Maybe you should learn about angular resolution and the effects of perspective before spouting a bunch of BS about a magic Glow ball in a vacuum that somehow has no measurable curvature at the surface... 830 mile Microwave transmission LORA debunked the Globe!
Caught one mate but I think we are going to need a bigger boat 🙄
@@SuperZoomVideos 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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as the ship gets smaller the waves un front of the camera look bigger and bigger, do these experiment with a camera that has half the zoom and is going to look like the boat "sinks" twice as fast.
Zoom isn't gonna lift the ship regardless of what's blocking it, genius
Like a laundry in a hot water, the ship shrink. Sea must be hot furter away from the shore.
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Why do globers always film at full zoom?
Please do a video only partially zoomed in, wait for a boat to start dipping from view then zoom in further, then you will show the reality that the horizon is your maximum line of sight along ground/sea level and by zooming in you are extending your line of sight and the boat will be fully visible again, it is not a curve.
This can be done up to around 15-20 miles before atmospheric conditions/density will no longer allow you to see further.
Exactly what difference would filming at full zoom 100% of the time vs filming at full zoom only 50% of the time make on the drop of the ship, and why?
Y'also notice how half of the ship was gone by 18-20 km?
@@jamaldeep13 Because when you are already at full zoom the boat will obviously go further away than you can see in your line of sight at ground/sea level.
If you partially zoom in to a boat fully visible on the horizon, wait for it to start disappearing bottom up you can then zoom in further to extend your line of sight to see the bottom of the boat again.
You cannot do this if you are already at full zoom can you.
@@liftingtheveil8361 The issue is that zoom doesn't lift the boat. What makes you think that's how that works, anyway? Zoom only makes things appear bigger.
You really did not study optics in middle/high school at all.
@@mrnaris4852 I think you need to take the course again.
And a course to overcome cognitive dissonance might help as you clearly have a mental block against common sense and observable reality that even you can check for yourself.
If you cannot understand that your line of sight along ground/sea level depends on your height above the ground there is no explaining it to you.
Try it, you might learn something.
How far can I see along a flat road if I put my eyes near the ground and how much further can I see if I stand up and look along the road? hmmm
100% flat
Just like your brain
This does not prove earth is a ball. The further the ships goes out the smaller the ship appears and the bigger the waves appear in front. It's not going over any horizon It's simply getting smaller.
Thanks for letting us know how dumb you are.
I mean if you actually compare with the ship closer up its hull is very much sitting below the horizon.
How do those waves get bigger?
How a wave that is way below your eye level, suddenly block things much taller than you?
@@XtreeM_FaiL how can your finger in front of your eyes block the entire sun?
@@asor8037 When it is on the same line as the sun and my eyes. Don't they teach anything in the kinderkarten anymore?
Flat
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Spherical.
You seem a little delusional.
Perhaps you should alter your medication.
@@Hobbes746 no flat
@@asor8037 In 2500 years, nobody has presented a single shred of evidence that shows Earth is flat. Instead, we have millions of measurements, experiments and observations that show Earth is a sphere.
Stand before a mirror and hold your finger horizontally close to your face; it obscures roughly 5% of your face. Then, extend your arm about one meter and position your finger in front of your face, while standing two meters from the mirror; it seems to cover your entire face. Picture this phenomenon with random five-foot swells blocking your view.
Nice try, last time I stood in front of a mirror it ended with a poison apple and being followed around 7 old short guys with questionable facial grooming.
Wait, are you trying to rationalize why the ship is sinking lower and lower, even though there are people that claim you should use a P1000 to zoom into ships on the horizon to see them appear, even though they seemed to disappear below the horizon?
Do you ever feel like claiming the earth is flat is giving you a sense of control over your life or a sense of belonging in a world of chaos? I'm just trying to find out why people act like this and make up their own facts
Las olas también disminuyen su tamaño aparente con la distancia.
Un observador con la vista a 2 m sobre el agua, podría comprobar que una ola de 1 m de altura situada sobre la línea del horizonte, podría ocultar 4 m de altura de un barco situado a 20 km de distancia, si la tierra fuera plana (y existiera una línea de horizonte visible en ese fantástico mundo, claro). Pero en la tierra real, esa ola ocultaría 4 metros también, más los 15 metros que se ocultarían tras la línea del horizonte, debido a la curvatura terrestre. Es decir, 19 metros de barco desde esa posición desaparecerían.
The horizontal lines at sides of the ship should've changed but its still level....the earth is flat.
At 18.5 Km distance, tbe horizontal sides of the ship would be leaning away from the camera by 0.16 of a degree, can you tell this with the naked eye?
Only thing flat is your brains.
@@A15degreeperhourdrift you cant have your cake and it eat too. If the angle is to small to lean the ship visibly, it follows that it also too small to make the ship "disappear under the horizon". Simply logic, no word salad needed.
@@asor8037 please show your calculations that demonstrate this assertion.
Once again, a flerf shows they have zero concept of scale.
simply because the earth is not around she is flat
p900..the better choice
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Haha you get the same effect without a camera at much smaller distances. Look at a zodiac from the beach 100m at sea vs close to the beach and it would disappear bottom up. There is no relevant curvature at that distance but the same effect is visible. Can you explain how according to any calculation you make more than half of the ship should've been invisible at 15km?
The video is literally the thing you are asking to have explained. At 14.5km approximately 16.5m of the ship is obscured, I say approximately because I don’t have a giant tape measure. Maybe one day
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absolutely flat
In reality, from a height of 5 m, the horizon in profile is visible up to 15 km on both sides. And it is clear that it is absolutely flat.The person in the center should see that the ship is completely hidden behind the hump of water. But in reality, this is not the case
Video says otherwise
Flat.
Donut.