When I saw the beginning of this video I was worried James had become a shill. After his clarification, I'd say this was the most honest way of reviewing a product. Well done James.
I was watching some of your historical videos the other day and it came to my mind that your working & video production conditions really did improve when you acquired that hoist. No more bending, stooping or crawling around on the floor. 👍
I’m subscribed to almost 50 small engine channels and notified on 20, with over 5K hours on UA-cam in 3 years and James Condon is right at the top of my list.
Great video review! It's amazing how many new inverter gens keep coming to the market. The competition is huge now, which is a good thing for innovation, and price. These high-power density suitcase units have come such a long way in the last 2-3 years, it's amazing!
Regarding oil and non-filtered engines: I have heard that detergent oils keep particles suspended so that the oil filter can trap them. Non-detergent oils let the particles settle out. You would think this is bad (sludge), but a well-designed small engine will have a good sump that lets any abrasive grit settle out instead of being splashed back into your rotating assembly.
1:30 “I don’t earn any commission”…..Jim, but you still get two free ERAYAK Generator worth $4,000. That is a commission, or do you return them? I’ve seen this so many times where a Chinese company sends a YT influencer a free items to review but say they don’t get a commission. Nevertheless, I still enjoy your channel.
I like James and his videos but I agree with you that he didn’t clarify whether he had to return it or not. If he’s allowed to keep it, the video should be marked as sponsored, plus he should’ve clearly communicated that. Because right now, for me, this is a potential unfortunate blemish on his reputation. But, based on what I’ve seen so far from James, I’m hoping this will be clarified after all. 🤞🏻
Ya'll say you haven't seen the generator start off the generator. First time I saw this was 30 years ago at work on Onan gensets. These old Onans all started off the generator. Never failed for us. Ya'll may not be an electrician, but you seem to be an electrical engineer. We had a super good electrical engineer at work, his last name was Freeman.
I'm impressed with how they held 59.9 Hz no matter what the load was. I was surprised of the competitive pricing of their generators. Never heard of them before but very impressed with them... Good review Jim!
I don't know a damn thing about generators because living in England we have a pretty good and consistent power grid here. But I find your videos are a great source of information for those people who have to use generators. Very good information and helpful way of getting it to people, keep it up.
"Trifuel Inverter GenRATOR"??? (printed sign on side of unit). Deliberate mis-spelling or lost-in-translation? Makes a significant point about the source and, potentially, reliability.
Your "house wiring" with a gen, is spot-on accurate, regarding the feeding of a 120/240V panel with a single 120V jumped to both legs and overloading the neutral. This should probably be left to someone who has a strong working understanding of Ohm's Law, Electrical wiring, and the exact loads within their house, that they wish to use. Very, very good discussion that you give on this.
Even if they let you keep both generators, its a great deal for Them!! Imagine What the cost would be to make a video like this 3-4 people for the Take ! +One like you to do all that stuff… (There Can be only one😄) Would be like 25.000$! Delivering at cost Price is a smart move! Pretty sure they have contract to use this video now… And by my means both the generators and video is GREAT❤
James, glad you were able to review this kind of generator as a new unit. It has some very nice features. But I noticed something it does that my inverter generator does too, that I thought might be a shortcoming on mine. The RPM seems to float around and doesn't maintain a "rock solid" RPM. With an inverter, it's not an issue as the inverter cleans up the output, but with non-inverter generators if the RPM floated like that, you'd be pulling it apart to find out why. Any thoughts?
Your review definitely has me thinking of purchasing one of these generators. Not that I'm a big user of propane or LPN, but I DO have 60 pounds of it along on camping trips to locations without power. I use my Honda EU2200i in those off-grid locations. This three-fuel generator is less expensive than my Honda, AND it provides more power. The Honda's enough for my needs, but definitely requires I turn off the air conditioner in the camper before my wife starts up her hair dryer, or before I turn on the microwave oven. It's easy to do, but . . . if a quiet, slightly larger, inverter generator is available for the same, or better, price, why not go that path? But speaking of quiet, the Honda's rated at 48 to 57 dB, quite a bit quieter than this generator at 71 dB--AND that being measured at 25 feet from the unit. We know that sound volume doubles with every 3 dB, and if we compare maximum sound output of 71 dB to 57 dB, a difference of 14 dB, and then think of how 3 dB is a doubling (or halving) of sound, this unit outputs nearly five times as much audible noise as the Honda EU2200i. Definitely a negative factor when I am in a campground with neighbors, or in an isolated area of the wilderness. Have you done the dB test with the Honda EU2200i, at 25 feet? I thought I'd watched all your videos, but missed a measurement of the sound output of the Honda. I'd like to see your real-world measurement of it, to compare apples to apples. I didn't see a two-position switch offering fuel savings & less noise, such as the one my Honda has. Instead, it appears this brand/model just ramps up the power & noise to match the demand. I've grown accustomed to the Honda switch. What's your take on the difference between the two--Honda's switch, Erayak's lack of one? I really appreciate your observations & caveats on the unit. One suggestion I'd offer to the manufacturer, beyond better audible noise damping, is simple cosmetics: the power/fuel rotator switch is black on a black background. I like my controls to be bright and obvious--especially on generators, where sometimes a choke control is black on a black engine, located underneath the fuel tank in the shadows--very hard to see! Making it white or red would be a simple change that would immediately direct my attention to something for which I'm looking. I notice Amazon sells the gasoline-only version, which is still a 3500/4500 Watt inverter generator, for $719. That's $231 less than my Honda was new. More incentive to buy this brand, if I don't mind almost five times as much noise. I predict Honda's going to sit up and take notice of this new product, and perhaps improve their generators or their price point--or both.
Nice video the brake in oil looked a lot better then my champion 2500 changed it 3 times in 6 hours of run time before it looked good have a 93 honda ex1000 bought new still runs perfect
DC generators/starters ("Dynastart") were very common before WWII James, many UK cars had such a system. Also found on the many thousands of 300W 12V/24VDC "Chorehorse" military generators issued with radio equipment for battery charging. Was also used post war on many small engine applications, scooters, three-wheelers with small two-strokes and some bubble cars.
I have the same one they sent me months ago for trial and test. I have just not been home much due to lower pay on solar installs and higher cost to do it all in the great awesome economy. The "green new deal" only applied to mega corporations who donate to the current thugs in DC. I will be doing some videos on it and a few others I have to check out.
Looks like a nice machine, with some very nice features, plus, very nice stable voltage output. My only concern with machines that come from China, are longevity and spare parts availability.
Did you put a meter across what would be L1 & L2 on the parallel adapter when it was running? Curious to see what reading you would see since they’ve tied the neutrals together. Never know till you try. Nice video!
That is cool. Wish they had more options like this back three years ago when I purchased my harbor freight predator 3500. They do sell trifle kits. I can put on it but they are kind of expensive for the good ones anyway that I got a cheaper machine, I changed my oil four times within the first 30 hours then after that, I’ve just been doing every hundred hours which is what’s recommended in the manual that oil definitely came out way cleaner than mine. The first couple of times mine was pretty dirty.
Brilliant video, Jim. They are an awesome brand. I have a few of their 12v 2kw inverters in my van. So reliable and well made. They were smart to find the best person to review generators. It looks like they are made under licence and possibly the same as the Champion Mighty Atom as they share some noticeable components
Great video as usual! My biggest problem with this generator brand is that it’s made in China. I feel we need to stop supporting Chinese made products.
Yeah and then all generators will be more expensive. And you're going to have a hard time finding one. No one builds them here. I agree I'd like to see more made here. But this all started a long time ago.
On the power quality question… I think there have been a lot of improvements over the last decade or two in the “sensitivity” issue. A modern flyback topology LVDC power supply starts by rectifying the DC and filtering it. The DC is then switched at a very high frequency into a relatively small transformer and then rectified again on the secondary side. Those sorts of power supplies are largely insensitive to issues on the input side until you start talking about really bad overvoltage (like lightning strikes) or brownout conditions. So it’s actually not a bad idea to replace old wall-warts… as long as you’re careful to match voltage, maximum amperage, polarity and plug.
The wheel kit handle should be mounted off the top. It makes for more stable towing of the generator around. Also because the generator is not tipped so far back, the oil has less chance of getting in the wrong places.
It's crazy how small these inverter generators are getting. I have a Yamaha EF2000IS, which is 2kw and and a Pulsar PGD40ISCO, which is a 4kw generator. The Yamaha is acually a little bit bigger than the Pulsar and only produces half the power. Both weight the same at 46 lbs with no oil and gas.
On my Aipower genertor 2000 watt inverter generator, i cut out a piece of black frame plastic, that was in the way of removing the valve cover.now i can check the valves with out removing all the plastic stuff.
Interesting video.The only way to change the oil on these machines is having to tilt them? An hour clock should be added for running time on the engine.The sound meter was your own?
I noticed after watching this video that Erayak has their own YT channel where they posted an unboxing/intro video just 7 days ago and has only 500 views.Thats incredibly low viewership it seems.Just pointing that out.
I went to the manufacturer's website to get the manual. I was interested in how the generators control the phase, which is essential for paralleling. To my surprise, the webpage for both products was removed from the website. Yellow signal
Interesting. Maybe we crashed it. Here is a link to the manual they provide me: drive.google.com/file/d/1zrtXnr3fHN1hCRXoDWdZdX7MuWjiO4PZ/view?usp=drive_link
Excellent video. Be very careful looking this unit on line. Those two engines aren’t in synch, in parallel, 44:14 it’s a cacophony not a symphony. That would keep me awake at night. There is sh:t load of websites offering these for less than $300.00, one as low as $79.00. Please be mindful of scams, these units are $800.00+
Thanks for the video, very interesting I think the purpose of connecting the generators together would be to power up your RV? Is that a correct scenario?
If you have a singe 120 load that is more then 29 amps or has a surge more then 29 amps then you need two connected together. Also its much better to spread the load so neither generator has to work that hard.
A button to bypass the CO sensor?! 😂 Then why have it? Great video as always James, but I would never recommend or buy these China no name branded generators. The issue for me is longevity and availability for parts. I'm sure they cross to say a Champion/Firman or some other similar designed/ different branded machine out there that has better marketing and parts support but that requires a lot of research on the part of the consumer which many wouldn't go that far. Glad you got two machines for free and with some additional ad revenue from the video I'm sure it was a good deal overall!
The big brands sell parts, but the parts are expensive. That EF3000 I fixed needed a new inverter. Yamaha charged $1200 for the part! Its almost like they don't want people to fix them.
A couple of questions . Does it have Eco mode? Knowing the slight stumble when manually switched from propane tank gas what happens when the propane tank runs out ? Will it continue to run or die?
No ECO mode switch on this model. It will switch the gasoline when the propane pressure drops. But would not recommend letting it do that since the propane tank will quickly build enough pressure to switch back for a few seconds. It will likely short cycle until the propane is 100% gone.
The other thing is the price of the inverter generator also determines if you want to buy it plus the output of watts and the t.h.d when you are running electronics
Not a real important issue but I have seen the displacement for this listed as 143cc and 208cc. You said 150cc, which makes sense for a 143cc unit but, you also said most 150cc engines would not produce as much power as the ERAYAK does, so now I'm wondering if the 208cc is actually the correct displacement?
Traditional generators with that size engine would not produce that much power since they have to run at 3600 rpm. Inverter generators can vary their speed and can run as fast as 5000 rpm which is how they get there extra hp.
Nice.... A question if I may, it says TRI-fuel.... What is the third fuel on which it can run... Or is that a typo? Should it not be BI-fuel? Also.... To supply split phase equipment you will need a single 3phase generator.... If at all you loose sync between your generators, (you) actually, your equipment is going to be in a world of hurt.... And I suppose your pocket too..
Hey James, First I really enjoy your video's - it's like taking a small engine repair course. You do a lot of work on generators. I live in the Northeast (central NY) and our home is all electric. I have a never used kerosene heater in the garage just in case but for a long time I've thought we should have a generator for emergencies. At least perhaps for refrigerator/freezer and maybe a light or two. So I'm thinking maybe a 5000 watt generator. What's a good brand that doesn't bust my senior wallet too bad??? (advance thanks)
The 220 volt current going to one's home is single phase. It then goes to the circuit breaker box or distribution panel where is is split and then becomes split phase and yes, each one is 180 degrees out of phase from the other. Looking at the sine wave one can see that one 110 volt branch uses the top of the sine wave and the other branch uses the bottom of the sine wave. Ideally the best scenario is to use a generator with 220 volt output going directly to the breaker panel through a transfer switch.
Perhaps the generator was already broken-in at the factory?! Had the drained oil been darker or shown silvery, would you repeat the oil changes until there was no shimmer?
Nice unit, but a little pricey. I bought a dual fuel Pulsar from HD, and added natural gas capability. I run electronics on it but it’s probably dirty power. Is there any way to safely use a cheaper generator to safely power electronics?
You can improve the THD of any generator system by adding an appropriate filter to the output. Filter design calculations are comparatively simple. The off putting bit is that any filter will absorb power, produce heat, limit current and drop output voltage. The capacitors, inductors and high power resistors necessary at these sorts of wattage are certainly not cheap .It quickly becomes cost prohibitive and that is why we do not see it in practice. Probably cheaper to buy an inverter.
I went to the sites shown and the description/pictures show 2 different machines for the same price?? One has an electric start(as your 1st one does) and in the same description another picture shows NO electric start., Something is amiss with their ad, and I wanted to order one but am not sure what I get for $899??
So, paralleling kits for some machines including this one use a NEMA 14-50 receptacle when they really should be using a NEMA 5-50 receptacle. I guess if you want a whole house inverter, you would have to buy a dedicated unit like Honda's 7000 W peak rated EU7000is or similar machine. Those are fairly nice machines otherwise.
Yes, you are correct that propane has a higher energy density than natural gas. Propane 2500 btu cubic foot of vapor, Nat gas 1000 btu per cubic foot of gas. The way it comes out the same is you will essentially consume 2 1/2 times the cfm of fuel when running nat gas as opposed to propane.
I want a generator that works with a lithium iron phosphate battery big enough to provide starting inrush current to the inverter in parallel to the battery so that the overall starting power can start big loads like household AC and avoid transients while the engine ramps.And if the load is too high for propane for a few seconds, switch to gasoline if present.
I prefer to run my gen on natural gas. Problem is my 5,500 watt gen takes more gas then my gas line puts out. Bummer! I'm stuck running gasoline for now but it's better then nothing.
The worst thing that floats in an engineers brain is the admonitions from the accountants about production costs and how they relate to the designs that the engineers would prefer to use. The accountants view is the prime driver for any manufacturing company. Any engineer who thinks otherwise is in the market for another employer pretty quickly.
They’ve picked the best person I know to do a review. Nice machines
When I saw the beginning of this video I was worried James had become a shill. After his clarification, I'd say this was the most honest way of reviewing a product. Well done James.
This video is just like every video seen on "Project Farm" where Todd tests/reviews everything from hand tools to work boots without sponsorship.
I was watching some of your historical videos the other day and it came to my mind that your working & video production conditions really did improve when you acquired that hoist. No more bending, stooping or crawling around on the floor. 👍
Absolutely the very best small engine channel on UA-cam!
Ditto
I’m subscribed to almost 50 small engine channels and notified on 20, with over 5K hours on UA-cam in 3 years and James Condon is right at the top of my list.
I noticed the Hertz never changed @ 59.9 Hz 👍 Also I'm always impressed with the mathematical way you go about repairs and testing!
Great video review! It's amazing how many new inverter gens keep coming to the market. The competition is huge now, which is a good thing for innovation, and price. These high-power density suitcase units have come such a long way in the last 2-3 years, it's amazing!
Regarding oil and non-filtered engines: I have heard that detergent oils keep particles suspended so that the oil filter can trap them. Non-detergent oils let the particles settle out. You would think this is bad (sludge), but a well-designed small engine will have a good sump that lets any abrasive grit settle out instead of being splashed back into your rotating assembly.
1:30 “I don’t earn any commission”…..Jim, but you still get two free ERAYAK Generator worth $4,000. That is a commission, or do you return them? I’ve seen this so many times where a Chinese company sends a YT influencer a free items to review but say they don’t get a commission. Nevertheless, I still enjoy your channel.
Maybe he should give them away, local charity, or to a commenter, lol
I like James and his videos but I agree with you that he didn’t clarify whether he had to return it or not. If he’s allowed to keep it, the video should be marked as sponsored, plus he should’ve clearly communicated that. Because right now, for me, this is a potential unfortunate blemish on his reputation. But, based on what I’ve seen so far from James, I’m hoping this will be clarified after all. 🤞🏻
Safe to say the LAST thing he needs is a free genny!
you know he kept them lol
He did say that there were NO conditions....he could say anything ...bad or good
Ya'll say you haven't seen the generator start off the generator. First time I saw this was 30 years ago at work on Onan gensets. These old Onans all started off the generator. Never failed for us. Ya'll may not be an electrician, but you seem to be an electrical engineer. We had a super good electrical engineer at work, his last name was Freeman.
The Toyota Prius starts off the electric motor - smoooooth
I'm impressed with how they held 59.9 Hz no matter what the load was. I was surprised of the competitive pricing of their generators. Never heard of them before but very impressed with them... Good review Jim!
I don't know a damn thing about generators because living in England we have a pretty good and consistent power grid here. But I find your videos are a great source of information for those people who have to use generators. Very good information and helpful way of getting it to people, keep it up.
This was a perfect review of the things that matter. Thanks!
Best channel on UA-cam 👍🏻
So true!!
James is Must See TV
"Trifuel Inverter GenRATOR"??? (printed sign on side of unit). Deliberate mis-spelling or lost-in-translation? Makes a significant point about the source and, potentially, reliability.
haha was hoping someone else caught that.
China LEKTRITCY VERY BEST GOOD ENIGNE POWAR
A brilliant little Invertor Generator, nicely put through it's paces. Thanks for sharing.
Your "house wiring" with a gen, is spot-on accurate, regarding the feeding of a 120/240V panel with a single 120V jumped to both legs and overloading the neutral. This should probably be left to someone who has a strong working understanding of Ohm's Law, Electrical wiring, and the exact loads within their house, that they wish to use. Very, very good discussion that you give on this.
Thanks
Even if they let you keep both generators, its a great deal for Them!!
Imagine What the cost would be to make a video like this 3-4 people for the Take ! +One like you to do all that stuff… (There Can be only one😄)
Would be like 25.000$!
Delivering at cost Price is a smart move!
Pretty sure they have contract to use this video now… And by my means both the generators and video is GREAT❤
Already sent the electric start model to a friend in Florida for the next hurricane.
@@jcondon1 You are an Angel !!
I just had a Half tear in my eyes🥲
What a move💯!!!
James, glad you were able to review this kind of generator as a new unit. It has some very nice features. But I noticed something it does that my inverter generator does too, that I thought might be a shortcoming on mine. The RPM seems to float around and doesn't maintain a "rock solid" RPM. With an inverter, it's not an issue as the inverter cleans up the output, but with non-inverter generators if the RPM floated like that, you'd be pulling it apart to find out why. Any thoughts?
Looks like this is very good "GenRATOR" Great video review James!
Your review definitely has me thinking of purchasing one of these generators. Not that I'm a big user of propane or LPN, but I DO have 60 pounds of it along on camping trips to locations without power. I use my Honda EU2200i in those off-grid locations. This three-fuel generator is less expensive than my Honda, AND it provides more power.
The Honda's enough for my needs, but definitely requires I turn off the air conditioner in the camper before my wife starts up her hair dryer, or before I turn on the microwave oven. It's easy to do, but . . . if a quiet, slightly larger, inverter generator is available for the same, or better, price, why not go that path?
But speaking of quiet, the Honda's rated at 48 to 57 dB, quite a bit quieter than this generator at 71 dB--AND that being measured at 25 feet from the unit. We know that sound volume doubles with every 3 dB, and if we compare maximum sound output of 71 dB to 57 dB, a difference of 14 dB, and then think of how 3 dB is a doubling (or halving) of sound, this unit outputs nearly five times as much audible noise as the Honda EU2200i. Definitely a negative factor when I am in a campground with neighbors, or in an isolated area of the wilderness.
Have you done the dB test with the Honda EU2200i, at 25 feet? I thought I'd watched all your videos, but missed a measurement of the sound output of the Honda. I'd like to see your real-world measurement of it, to compare apples to apples.
I didn't see a two-position switch offering fuel savings & less noise, such as the one my Honda has. Instead, it appears this brand/model just ramps up the power & noise to match the demand. I've grown accustomed to the Honda switch. What's your take on the difference between the two--Honda's switch, Erayak's lack of one?
I really appreciate your observations & caveats on the unit. One suggestion I'd offer to the manufacturer, beyond better audible noise damping, is simple cosmetics: the power/fuel rotator switch is black on a black background. I like my controls to be bright and obvious--especially on generators, where sometimes a choke control is black on a black engine, located underneath the fuel tank in the shadows--very hard to see! Making it white or red would be a simple change that would immediately direct my attention to something for which I'm looking.
I notice Amazon sells the gasoline-only version, which is still a 3500/4500 Watt inverter generator, for $719. That's $231 less than my Honda was new. More incentive to buy this brand, if I don't mind almost five times as much noise. I predict Honda's going to sit up and take notice of this new product, and perhaps improve their generators or their price point--or both.
Nice video the brake in oil looked a lot better then my champion 2500 changed it 3 times in 6 hours of run time before it looked good have a 93 honda ex1000 bought new still runs perfect
DC generators/starters ("Dynastart") were very common before WWII James, many UK cars had such a system. Also found on the many thousands of 300W 12V/24VDC "Chorehorse" military generators issued with radio equipment for battery charging.
Was also used post war on many small engine applications, scooters, three-wheelers with small two-strokes and some bubble cars.
I have the same one they sent me months ago for trial and test. I have just not been home much due to lower pay on solar installs and higher cost to do it all in the great awesome economy. The "green new deal" only applied to mega corporations who donate to the current thugs in DC. I will be doing some videos on it and a few others I have to check out.
Yep, you see the problem first hand.
Another day another video from James... great morning to wake up
Thursday is the Friday of my work week. Always fun to start my weekend with a pipe of tobacco and a JC vid.
Looks like a nice machine, with some very nice features, plus, very nice stable voltage output.
My only concern with machines that come from China, are longevity and spare parts availability.
Went to the Erayak web site and was sorely disappointed at the lack of technical data and details on their various offerings.
Did you put a meter across what would be L1 & L2 on the parallel adapter when it was running? Curious to see what reading you would see since they’ve tied the neutrals together. Never know till you try. Nice video!
I did. That video clip did not make the cut, but here is a link to it: ua-cam.com/video/6YRKCQ_TTWI/v-deo.html
great review and testing , seeing how they run in parallel was an unexpected bonus , thanks
That is cool. Wish they had more options like this back three years ago when I purchased my harbor freight predator 3500. They do sell trifle kits. I can put on it but they are kind of expensive for the good ones anyway that I got a cheaper machine, I changed my oil four times within the first 30 hours then after that, I’ve just been doing every hundred hours which is what’s recommended in the manual that oil definitely came out way cleaner than mine. The first couple of times mine was pretty dirty.
Brilliant video, Jim. They are an awesome brand. I have a few of their 12v 2kw inverters in my van. So reliable and well made. They were smart to find the best person to review generators.
It looks like they are made under licence and possibly the same as the Champion Mighty Atom as they share some noticeable components
Great video as usual! My biggest problem with this generator brand is that it’s made in China. I feel we need to stop supporting Chinese made products.
Vote Trump then
How much would it be if made in the US, $2500.00. Government regulations are killing our economy
@@rogerandlyndabeall3840 I did!
Yeah and then all generators will be more expensive. And you're going to have a hard time finding one. No one builds them here. I agree I'd like to see more made here. But this all started a long time ago.
Yeah, let’s all buy the dearest generators, and insist on no Japanese engined stuff either.
Great video, I m thinking I may buy one of the open frame inverter generators since they should be easier to service. This looks like a nice unit
I really enjoyed this review!
I wish you would have elaborated a bit on natural gas used with these generators.
I wish I could have tested it. No NG in my area :(
On the power quality question… I think there have been a lot of improvements over the last decade or two in the “sensitivity” issue. A modern flyback topology LVDC power supply starts by rectifying the DC and filtering it. The DC is then switched at a very high frequency into a relatively small transformer and then rectified again on the secondary side.
Those sorts of power supplies are largely insensitive to issues on the input side until you start talking about really bad overvoltage (like lightning strikes) or brownout conditions.
So it’s actually not a bad idea to replace old wall-warts… as long as you’re careful to match voltage, maximum amperage, polarity and plug.
Oops.. rectifying the AC to DC.
I love to see a propane conversion video
Another very professional presentation. Well done James.
The wheel kit handle should be mounted off the top. It makes for more stable towing of the generator around. Also because the generator is not tipped so far back, the oil has less chance of getting in the wrong places.
My son said the same thing.
To run the carb dry, you could simply close the tank vent until the engine dies then simply shut off the main on/off switch.
Awesome review Engine sounds tight . I think you have a great machine . i do need a small generator for my water crafts .
It's crazy how small these inverter generators are getting. I have a Yamaha EF2000IS, which is 2kw and and a Pulsar PGD40ISCO, which is a 4kw generator. The Yamaha is acually a little bit bigger than the Pulsar and only produces half the power. Both weight the same at 46 lbs with no oil and gas.
On my Aipower genertor 2000 watt inverter generator, i cut out a piece of black frame plastic, that was in the way of removing the valve cover.now i can check the valves with out removing all the plastic stuff.
James, thanks for thie video. I just discovered it this week. I'm pretty intrested. Great price, just wondering how it will hold up oved time.
Only time will tell, but I do not get many inverter generators in for repair.
Interesting video.The only way to change the oil on these machines is having to tilt them?
An hour clock should be added for running time on the engine.The sound meter was your own?
All suitcase inverter for the most part have to be tilted to drain the oil. Yes, that is my sound meter.
I noticed after watching this video that Erayak has their own YT channel where they posted an unboxing/intro video just 7 days ago and has only 500 views.Thats incredibly low viewership it seems.Just pointing that out.
Its hard to get views. That is probably why they sent them to me.
I went to the manufacturer's website to get the manual. I was interested in how the generators control the phase, which is essential for paralleling. To my surprise, the webpage for both products was removed from the website. Yellow signal
Interesting. Maybe we crashed it. Here is a link to the manual they provide me: drive.google.com/file/d/1zrtXnr3fHN1hCRXoDWdZdX7MuWjiO4PZ/view?usp=drive_link
Hi James. Does it have eco switch and do you have to start it with eco off? Or more automatic features
James you are the best. will the ERAYAK parrall with the HONDA eu2200?
thank you James
Excellent video. Be very careful looking this unit on line. Those two engines aren’t in synch, in parallel, 44:14 it’s a cacophony not a symphony. That would keep me awake at night. There is sh:t load of websites offering these for less than $300.00, one as low as $79.00.
Please be mindful of scams, these units are $800.00+
Thanks for the video, very interesting
I think the purpose of connecting the generators together would be to power up your RV? Is that a correct scenario?
If you have a singe 120 load that is more then 29 amps or has a surge more then 29 amps then you need two connected together. Also its much better to spread the load so neither generator has to work that hard.
A button to bypass the CO sensor?! 😂 Then why have it?
Great video as always James, but I would never recommend or buy these China no name branded generators.
The issue for me is longevity and availability for parts. I'm sure they cross to say a Champion/Firman or some other similar designed/ different branded machine out there that has better marketing and parts support but that requires a lot of research on the part of the consumer which many wouldn't go that far.
Glad you got two machines for free and with some additional ad revenue from the video I'm sure it was a good deal overall!
The big brands sell parts, but the parts are expensive. That EF3000 I fixed needed a new inverter. Yamaha charged $1200 for the part! Its almost like they don't want people to fix them.
Reasonable pricing, do the comparable Predator Inverters offer full parts availability?
It would be nice to do a idle to full load. Simulating a AC, or heater running in on/off
A couple of questions . Does it have Eco mode? Knowing the slight stumble when manually switched from propane tank gas what happens when the propane tank runs out ? Will it continue to run or die?
No ECO mode switch on this model. It will switch the gasoline when the propane pressure drops. But would not recommend letting it do that since the propane tank will quickly build enough pressure to switch back for a few seconds. It will likely short cycle until the propane is 100% gone.
The other thing is the price of the inverter generator also determines if you want to buy it plus the output of watts and the t.h.d when you are running electronics
I want to learn how you get the stuff that you get repaired
Not a real important issue but I have seen the displacement for this listed as 143cc and 208cc. You said 150cc, which makes sense for a 143cc unit but, you also said most 150cc engines would not produce as much power as the ERAYAK does, so now I'm wondering if the 208cc is actually the correct displacement?
Traditional generators with that size engine would not produce that much power since they have to run at 3600 rpm. Inverter generators can vary their speed and can run as fast as 5000 rpm which is how they get there extra hp.
I wonder if you put an isolation transformer with the phase reversed on the sense wire of the parallel unit you could get 240 two phase power
I enjoy your constant very much...what an impressive machine
I trust da#& few people on UA-cam to be totally honest. James Condon has earned his place on that podium.
you nailed it James...honor and integrity
Nice.... A question if I may, it says TRI-fuel.... What is the third fuel on which it can run... Or is that a typo? Should it not be BI-fuel? Also.... To supply split phase equipment you will need a single 3phase generator.... If at all you loose sync between your generators, (you) actually, your equipment is going to be in a world of hurt.... And I suppose your pocket too..
It can run on Natural gas. Unfortunately I do not have that here, so not able to test it.
I'm curious if the m version could be easily converted to the e version. I'd bet the firmware/hardware is still there.
Hey James, First I really enjoy your video's - it's like taking a small engine repair course. You do a lot of work on generators. I live in the Northeast (central NY) and our home is all electric. I have a never used kerosene heater in the garage just in case but for a long time I've thought we should have a generator for emergencies. At least perhaps for refrigerator/freezer and maybe a light or two. So I'm thinking maybe a 5000 watt generator. What's a good brand that doesn't bust my senior wallet too bad??? (advance thanks)
I like this generators ability to also do propane...but confused that is says 4500w but can only do 3500w?
What kind of large appliances could generators like that be used to power?
On these, I close the cap vent, I’m thinking it starves the fuel. Am I thinking right?
Are there Made in USA equivalent inverter generators?
I would like to see a switch between gas and propane under a heavy load. With the stumble would it continue to run?
It probably would not handle it very well.
Looks like a good machine
The 220 volt current going to one's home is single phase. It then goes to the circuit breaker box or distribution panel where is is split and then becomes split phase and yes, each one is 180 degrees out of phase from the other. Looking at the sine wave one can see that one 110 volt branch uses the top of the sine wave and the other branch uses the bottom of the sine wave. Ideally the best scenario is to use a generator with 220 volt output going directly to the breaker panel through a transfer switch.
Hi where did you get that measuring cup from that you use with the oil?
Same question here.
Can you parallel more than two?
Perhaps the generator was already broken-in at the factory?! Had the drained oil been darker or shown silvery, would you repeat the oil changes until there was no shimmer?
Maybe. It was very clean.
Nice review and great machine!!
Nice unit, but a little pricey. I bought a dual fuel Pulsar from HD, and added natural gas capability. I run electronics on it but it’s probably dirty power. Is there any way to safely use a cheaper generator to safely power electronics?
No cost effective way to clean up the power from a traditional generator.
Jim, is there a device that will convert a non-inverting Gen. to inverting? I have 3 Routers in my home, and the Gen, I have destroyed 2 of them! errr
You can improve the THD of any generator system by adding an appropriate filter to the output. Filter design calculations are comparatively simple. The off putting bit is that any filter will absorb power, produce heat, limit current and drop output voltage. The capacitors, inductors and high power resistors necessary at these sorts of wattage are certainly not cheap .It quickly becomes cost prohibitive and that is why we do not see it in practice. Probably cheaper to buy an inverter.
I went to the sites shown and the description/pictures show 2 different machines for the same price?? One has an electric start(as your 1st one does) and in the same description another picture shows NO electric start., Something is amiss with their ad, and I wanted to order one but am not sure what I get for $899??
Amazon might be easier to deal with for returns if you end up needing to send it back.
I missed your test bank load device with switches to turn the power levels up and down.
he cant use it on a 120v Generator its wired for 240
What octane is the fuel you are using ?
Great review. Where are these made?
From their website they are made in China
Most things are.
I wish it had thumb screws to hold the covers instead of having to use a screw driver
I wish they spelled Generator correctly.
So, paralleling kits for some machines including this one use a NEMA 14-50 receptacle when they really should be using a NEMA 5-50 receptacle. I guess if you want a whole house inverter, you would have to buy a dedicated unit like Honda's 7000 W peak rated EU7000is or similar machine. Those are fairly nice machines otherwise.
I thought Natural Gas was lower wattage than Propane. The way it looks in the video , its like they clamed NG and LPG was the same wattage.
Yes, you are correct that propane has a higher energy density than natural gas. Propane 2500 btu cubic foot of vapor, Nat gas 1000 btu per cubic foot of gas. The way it comes out the same is you will essentially consume 2 1/2 times the cfm of fuel when running nat gas as opposed to propane.
Can we use a lead acid battery?????
Very interesting, thanks for posting.
Excellent channel. I tried and promo code and it doesn't work.
I don't know...if they can't spell generator...
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing
Nice work James has always. Great generator also.
Can the cap vent be shut off to clear the carb?
That would eventually work.
Where is the unit made?
agreed best channel!
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How does if know if it’s NG or LPG? NG needs more flow than LPG
I want a generator that works with a lithium iron phosphate battery big enough to provide starting inrush current to the inverter in parallel to the battery so that the overall starting power can start big loads like household AC and avoid transients while the engine ramps.And if the load is too high for propane for a few seconds, switch to gasoline if present.
In parallel to the generator
Battery and generator feeding inverter
So, it says Trifuel - what's the third fuel?
Natural gas
I prefer to run my gen on natural gas. Problem is my 5,500 watt gen takes more gas then my gas line puts out. Bummer! I'm stuck running gasoline for now but it's better then nothing.
Wonder how fuel resistant that front panel is? Sometimes i wonder what floats in an engineer’s brain….
The worst thing that floats in an engineers brain is the admonitions from the accountants about production costs and how they relate to the designs that the engineers would prefer to use. The accountants view is the prime driver for any manufacturing company. Any engineer who thinks otherwise is in the market for another employer pretty quickly.