I agree, the wood looks fine. The ends and back seem ok. It is just separating at the joins. You need to empty it out, reset the boards and drill and pound in rebar or use timberloc screws to fasten each layer together.
@@debbiegallett1125 100% agree, just looks like Tony's soil has settled and got damp and just collapsed the sides, those sleepers look fab. I'm 99.9% sure the fact your other bed looks fine is because the boards are one solid length compared to the sleepers which haven't been secured properly. Please don't burn them Tony!!! P.S If/when you decide to fix the bed, make sure to add some chicken wire or something under, perfect solution to stopping moles and other diggers getting in underneath.
Hi Tony, the wood is definitely worth saving. Maybe. reuse what us good and make a?smaller bed with mesh on the ground to stop any moles/rats. Like Jessie has in her polytunnel. I have two high pallett collars and lined with black plastic and are great.height. Thanks for sharing and take care 😊
Wood is expensive these days and I would be reluctant to throw away anything that might be re-usable. I suggest emptying the soil out into your other beds and then dismantling that bed so you can see what condition each plank is in. You might find that at least some of them aren't too bad and they might give you enough to rebuild the bed at a lower height. I'd also visit any local building sites and demolition sites and ask if they have any timber they are throwing away. I have had quite a lot of timber, including useful things like damaged scaffolding boards, that way.
We have a similar bed and it's lasted 15 years. To keep the timbers stacked up properly we used these from Home Depot (we're in the states but maybe you can find something similar): TimberLOK Structural Wood Screws - 10 inch wood screws with hex head. We put 2 layers of timbers down, screwed in those giant screws every 2-4 feet, added another layer, screwed in more screws (offset from the ones in the first layer), added another layer, and screwed in more. It keeps them stacked nicely. But we used treated timbers as well.
From experience. Those timbers are softwood and untreated, if you leave it then there will be nothing but compost in 2 years max. Rip the front off and dig and spread the soil on the remaining beds. Rip the rest of the bed out and place the timbers on the tops of the compost heap to dry out, chop them up and into the wood stove they go! Purchase new 8' x 2' tanalised timbers and a roll of black visqueen plastic sheeting. Rebuild a new bed as you have adjacent and line the inside all around with the plastic and overlap the tops, screw on a small batten of tanalised wood around the top to hold the plastic in place and trim off the excess with a Stanley knife. Job done and will last a decade or more 👌
The large wood itself doesn't look rotten to me. I think the rotten parts might be the wood you used to connect the pieces. It looks very salvageable to me. It'll be a bit of work to get it back in shape but I sure think you could. I wouldn't burn it yet!
Get the soil out and rebuild. The beams look alright to me. Just the connecting bits of wood have to be renewed. Maybe do only 2 layers high ( less soil to press against ). I think because of the rain we had, the soil is waterlogged, and the weight pushed the beams apart.
My treated wood raised beds lasted 10 years. The most recent ones i lined with dpm stapled at the top. Now found that they make stainless staples mine were galvanised.
It looks like the only thing that rotted are the smaller pieces of wood inside at the corners. It also looks like there are no connectors holding the short lengths of timber together. I'd take dig out the front half of the soil, as you take the front timbers off and add new connectors (treated wood pieces and/or galvanized plates).
Some of that timber still looks OK so I'd reuse the best bits (and treat them) to make a single layer bed the same height as most of the others. The crap wood can go for the fire, and that should leave a bit of excess soil to top up other beds.
I drilled my sleepers (long wood drill) all the way down and put rebar in the holes (and banged into the ground) to stop the individual timbers moving. And lined it with thick plastic sheet. (Someone mentioned compost bags but I think the water will just get between them, via capillary action, and once there it won't be able to escape so will then cause damage over time)
that's the problem with wood, it rots quickly or slowly. i think use it as firewood and take the soil for th eother beds and maybe put in alower one, do you really need such a high bed?
Hey Tony I reckon the wood is fine. Doesn’t look rotten. Think the weight soil has just pushed it apart. Get son to help and Take it to pieces put to dry in poly tunnel and re-treat the wood. And dig out soil temporarily and rebuild.
We have always used 6" x 1" treated timber. It often comes over 4m long forvabout £10. It last about 5 years. If we could run to it we would buy those metal corrugated raised beds.
I remember when u brought those over and built that bed that we definitely an undertaking lol but it happens I have to re do at leave 5 beds this fall or spring. You could also look online in ur area for cinder block for free and make a new bed from that.
Yeah id dig soil out tony and just strengthen it up with decent timber. Especially where the 2 smaller timbers meet. Then just line the sides with some plastic. I reckon you should get more years out of that bed looking at the timbers tony. 👍
remove it dry for firewood use the soil ...better access for that end compost bin ...and think of something new for the area maybe just some flowering shrubs and seasonal flowers
Tony, you could shorten the broken bed, which would give you easier access to your compost heap. Then you could burn the wood to keep warm this winter as you will have lost the winter fuel allowance 😂😉
keep the height but shorten the length of raised bed so you can get to the other compost heap easier with a barrow then that soil that wouldve been for the length that you shortened can build ontop of the other part, saves a lot of lifting etc in future Tony
Hi Tony, why don't you keep the top half of the wooden bed and reuse it to make a shallow bed in the same area and the leftover ( rotten) wood for your fire. You don't loose your bed as such and you get some fire wood 😁 win win
Tony could you dig away soil from front of tall bed & reposition wood then bash in tall bars at the front like the ones used that slots into the blue pipe we got tall ones & use them this way to support tall beds. It looks tidy tbh & then our wood never moves
Take it out and use the soil in the other beds. You have some beds you are not using so you do not need it and will give you better access to the compost bins.
100% the connector posts or screws have failed, not the sleepers. Hence the joins showing. Maybe a good chance to remove soil, paint/oil/treat and line it with membrane etc and refill.
Sleepers rotten? Don't look it Tony.... We think its just the pressure of soil sinking as you say and weakest point (Joins) given way. Suggestion empty a bit so to be able to stack again get some thread rod, drill holes in them and then put back together using threading rod and put washer n nuts on top and screw down so holding all in and not able to push out like they have or some 3x3 posts and support at front so sleepers don't push out. Just suggestions.....
If the bed was lined with damp proof membrane and cardboard that would've lasted at least 10 years.....i line mine with membrane then cardboard so when it sinks the cardboard gets pulled down and not the membrane.
Crikey, I remember that bed being built. So I went back in your videos, and it was 4 years ago, built by Beeman Alex from free wood from nearby building works. I think you are right, the wood can never have been preserved. Shame.
Replace it all use it as fire wood they were second hand so you done well.... fix half now and you'll be doing the same again next year on the other half....do it once
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I covered the insides of my decking boards with plastic compost bags, fixed in place with drawing pins, they've lasted 5 years so far
The sleepers themselves don't look rotten, just the connecting bits of wood you used.
I agree, the wood looks fine. The ends and back seem ok. It is just separating at the joins. You need to empty it out, reset the boards and drill and pound in rebar or use timberloc screws to fasten each layer together.
@@debbiegallett1125 agreed
@@debbiegallett1125 100% agree, just looks like Tony's soil has settled and got damp and just collapsed the sides, those sleepers look fab. I'm 99.9% sure the fact your other bed looks fine is because the boards are one solid length compared to the sleepers which haven't been secured properly. Please don't burn them Tony!!!
P.S If/when you decide to fix the bed, make sure to add some chicken wire or something under, perfect solution to stopping moles and other diggers getting in underneath.
Hi Tony, the wood is definitely worth saving. Maybe. reuse what us good and make a?smaller bed with mesh on the ground to stop any moles/rats. Like Jessie has in her polytunnel. I have two high pallett collars and lined with black plastic and are great.height. Thanks for sharing and take care 😊
Wood is expensive these days and I would be reluctant to throw away anything that might be re-usable. I suggest emptying the soil out into your other beds and then dismantling that bed so you can see what condition each plank is in. You might find that at least some of them aren't too bad and they might give you enough to rebuild the bed at a lower height. I'd also visit any local building sites and demolition sites and ask if they have any timber they are throwing away. I have had quite a lot of timber, including useful things like damaged scaffolding boards, that way.
Your problem seems to be the partial lengths, nothing is holding them from bowing out.
You made me chuckle. You said that was one of Steve's habits, then put it back down.
We have a similar bed and it's lasted 15 years. To keep the timbers stacked up properly we used these from Home Depot (we're in the states but maybe you can find something similar): TimberLOK Structural Wood Screws - 10 inch wood screws with hex head. We put 2 layers of timbers down, screwed in those giant screws every 2-4 feet, added another layer, screwed in more screws (offset from the ones in the first layer), added another layer, and screwed in more. It keeps them stacked nicely. But we used treated timbers as well.
Dig it out onto your other beds to top them up, then through the winter, build yourself another bed where that came from
That can be put back together Tony. Doesn't look like mich ROT gone on
From experience. Those timbers are softwood and untreated, if you leave it then there will be nothing but compost in 2 years max.
Rip the front off and dig and spread the soil on the remaining beds. Rip the rest of the bed out and place the timbers on the tops of the compost heap to dry out, chop them up and into the wood stove they go!
Purchase new 8' x 2' tanalised timbers and a roll of black visqueen plastic sheeting.
Rebuild a new bed as you have adjacent and line the inside all around with the plastic and overlap the tops, screw on a small batten of tanalised wood around the top to hold the plastic in place and trim off the excess with a Stanley knife.
Job done and will last a decade or more 👌
You need to look about on your marketplace,in your area,for free or cheap pallets,and treat them yourself xx
Disassemble Tony, re-use the soil on the other beds, re-use the wood on the fire. Then reconsider your next move.
The large wood itself doesn't look rotten to me. I think the rotten parts might be the wood you used to connect the pieces. It looks very salvageable to me. It'll be a bit of work to get it back in shape but I sure think you could. I wouldn't burn it yet!
Mend it 😊
Get the soil out and rebuild. The beams look alright to me. Just the connecting bits of wood have to be renewed.
Maybe do only 2 layers high ( less soil to press against ). I think because of the rain we had, the soil is waterlogged, and the weight pushed the beams apart.
My treated wood raised beds lasted 10 years. The most recent ones i lined with dpm stapled at the top. Now found that they make stainless staples mine were galvanised.
look into metal raised beds.
It looks like the only thing that rotted are the smaller pieces of wood inside at the corners. It also looks like there are no connectors holding the short lengths of timber together. I'd take dig out the front half of the soil, as you take the front timbers off and add new connectors (treated wood pieces and/or galvanized plates).
Some of that timber still looks OK so I'd reuse the best bits (and treat them) to make a single layer bed the same height as most of the others. The crap wood can go for the fire, and that should leave a bit of excess soil to top up other beds.
I drilled my sleepers (long wood drill) all the way down and put rebar in the holes (and banged into the ground) to stop the individual timbers moving. And lined it with thick plastic sheet. (Someone mentioned compost bags but I think the water will just get between them, via capillary action, and once there it won't be able to escape so will then cause damage over time)
that's the problem with wood, it rots quickly or slowly. i think use it as firewood and take the soil for th eother beds and maybe put in alower one, do you really need such a high bed?
You should replace it with one of those metal beds. They’re on sale now
Absolutely. If you want tall beds then they are brilliant.
The wood doesn’t look rotten, empty and rebuild I would think
Hey Tony I reckon the wood is fine. Doesn’t look rotten. Think the weight soil has just pushed it apart. Get son to help and Take it to pieces put to dry in poly tunnel and re-treat the wood. And dig out soil temporarily and rebuild.
We have always used 6" x 1" treated timber. It often comes over 4m long forvabout £10. It last about 5 years. If we could run to it we would buy those metal corrugated raised beds.
Get rid and treat yourself to some good quality metal raised beds 😊
I remember when u brought those over and built that bed that we definitely an undertaking lol but it happens I have to re do at leave 5 beds this fall or spring. You could also look online in ur area for cinder block for free and make a new bed from that.
Yeah id dig soil out tony and just strengthen it up with decent timber. Especially where the 2 smaller timbers meet. Then just line the sides with some plastic. I reckon you should get more years out of that bed looking at the timbers tony. 👍
line out with dpm next time mate
remove it dry for firewood use the soil ...better access for that end compost bin ...and think of something new for the area maybe just some flowering shrubs and seasonal flowers
Should av put scaffolding tubes down the sides to hold the weight
Tony, you could shorten the broken bed, which would give you easier access to your compost heap. Then you could burn the wood to keep warm this winter as you will have lost the winter fuel allowance 😂😉
keep the height but shorten the length of raised bed so you can get to the other compost heap easier with a barrow then that soil that wouldve been for the length that you shortened can build ontop of the other part, saves a lot of lifting etc in future Tony
Hi Tony, why don't you keep the top half of the wooden bed and reuse it to make a shallow bed in the same area and the leftover ( rotten) wood for your fire. You don't loose your bed as such and you get some fire wood 😁 win win
Tony could you dig away soil from front of tall bed & reposition wood then bash in tall bars at the front like the ones used that slots into the blue pipe we got tall ones & use them this way to support tall beds. It looks tidy tbh & then our wood never moves
As I renew my beds Tony, I've been moving to corrugated steel raised beds, hoping they'll last longer than the timber...
Same here
Take it out and use the soil in the other beds. You have some beds you are not using so you do not need it and will give you better access to the compost bins.
How about getting three or four pallet collar stacks?
Pallet collars are great, and if you can knock those metal pegs out you can join them again to make longer beds or any shape you like.
They rot too quickly.
If you haven’t used it for much then dismantle it for fire wood and top up the other beds. You’ll have more space there and might not even miss it.😊
100% the connector posts or screws have failed, not the sleepers. Hence the joins showing. Maybe a good chance to remove soil, paint/oil/treat and line it with membrane etc and refill.
Sleepers rotten? Don't look it Tony.... We think its just the pressure of soil sinking as you say and weakest point (Joins) given way. Suggestion empty a bit so to be able to stack again get some thread rod, drill holes in them and then put back together using threading rod and put washer n nuts on top and screw down so holding all in and not able to push out like they have or some 3x3 posts and support at front so sleepers don't push out. Just suggestions.....
If the bed was lined with damp proof membrane and cardboard that would've lasted at least 10 years.....i line mine with membrane then cardboard so when it sinks the cardboard gets pulled down and not the membrane.
Crikey, I remember that bed being built. So I went back in your videos, and it was 4 years ago, built by Beeman Alex from free wood from nearby building works. I think you are right, the wood can never have been preserved. Shame.
Replace it all use it as fire wood they were second hand so you done well.... fix half now and you'll be doing the same again next year on the other half....do it once
rebuild with treated wood
Can't U had more support poles wouldn't be cheaper
Dump it and use for fire wood.
Dump it tony, you've got enough raised beds as it is mate.
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