Benelli Leoncino 800, can it compete with other manufacturers?
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- Опубліковано 21 лют 2023
- Benelli have released the latest iteration of the Leoncino following on from the successful Leoncino 500. This new version is a 754cc brute of machine with a trellis frame and muscular looks. We think they have pretty much nailed it.
Check out the video to see what we both thought of the Benelli Leoncino 800.
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Good review, with both presenters bouncing their perspectives off each other really nicely. Keep it up.
Much appreciated! Glad you enjoyed it
Love the dynamics between you too, nothing like a bit of generational banter haha
After 13 years of working with each other, glad we’ve got the generational banter down pat.
Benelli still has most of its aesthetic design done by themself , owned by Chinese group doesn't mean it's 100% made by Chinese team
Yes, still designed in Italy
Personally I would vote the Leoncino 500/800 to be the best sounding 2 cylinder bikes in the world (as far as I can tell). I really love Benelli bikes.
Can’t comment on the 500 but the 800 sounds great. And spoiler alert, even though, overall I prefer the looks and ride of the trail, this road version does sound better
Even the TNT 300 stock... lovely sound from factory.
@@tererez seems like Benelli have their stock exhaust sound sorted right across the range
@@tererez I just checked it out. This too, is impressive.
@@BikerTorque I need your advice because I can’t decide between the two😅. You’re saying that the ride on the trail is better, why is that? Honestly I prefer the trail because it’s more good looking and also because the seat height it’s higher than the road version.. on the other hand I feel like the road version is better in terms of agility and acceleration since it’s a little bit lighter than the trail (but thats what I think by looking at the specs, I still haven’t tried them). Which one would you say has the best performance?
Am I the only one that likes the little Lion on the mudguard? 😅 Speaking of mudguards, my only gripe with the bikes is their tiny mudguards. Apart from that I think it's a great bike, but being 6"3, I felt a little cramped in the leg department when riding the bike for 30+ minutes.
I do know of one other that likes the lion, so you are not alone. I like the look of the shorter mudguard but must admit it does throw up a bit of muck. Thanks for watching, we have a Leoncino Trail review up soon
The lions cute and unique,too many bikes have a generic look.
@@nickbasiliou5744 I agree that many bikes these days look generic. Just not sure that Lego Leo is the answer
I love it, and getting mine in 10 days ❤
I've owned Benelli products since 2020 and so far, they have been 100% reliable. The things that have caused maintenance to be done have all been very minor and near the surface. I can't see myself selling my Imperiale 400 until I can't drag myself out to the shed any more!
We were really surprised by this bike but honestly probably shouldn’t have been. It’s solid, looks good, handles well and the price point is very attractive
I envy you. I have Imperiale 400 as well (2021 model) and it's problem, after problem, after problem. Maybe it's only that mine 🤷♂. I am not sure if it's good thing (that others are fine) or bad one (that i am the unlucky guy) 😅.
@@jankafka sorry to hear you are having issues with your Imperielle 400. Can honestly say that the Leoncino 800 is a great bike
I've also had a TNT 300 for the last 4 years. Solid machine with no issues.
@@tererez I’m not familiar with that model either. I really need to look into some of the other Benelli bikes
Just watched you guys for the first , just subscribed, much love from the UK 👍🏼
Welcome aboard and thanks for watching. We post a new video every Thursday afternoon Sydney time and it’s a mix of reviews, rider stories and the occasional video of me just sitting with a couple of mates around the fire talking about bikes.
You guys should really look into the legend of Benelli, the Tre cylinders, were produced before, the TNT 1130 and TNT 899….they were discontinued but they just shout Italian everywhere. I own the Benelli TNT 899 and TNT 600, and owning one for 5 years with 73, 000 km mileage and still going, the bikes are pretty reliable. Especially in my country Malaysia, where the roads and weathers are, well, challenging.
Would love to find out more about the brand, because we both really enjoyed the bike we had for review
@@BikerTorque Thats Great! Really happy to know that many are taking interest into the brand itself. It’s really underrated. Nonetheless hope it continues to deliver well and gain more fans.
Great to find an Aussie channel 👍
Cheers mate, thanks for watching and hope you enjoy our content
Great Review! My best friend have bought this Benelli yesterday! I think this bike is a good choice. Take care and best regards from Germany 😉
Thanks, you too!
Nice review, really like the cinematic quality of the video.
We have seen the Benelli bikes on the fair here late last year, the whole "designed in Italy, build in China" raised some questions.
But it seems to be well put together, especially at the price point.
If you insist on a new bike and you are on a budget, this might be worth the test drive.
Don like the whole TFT display thing on any bike though, will take traditional clocks any day.
Yes the build quality on these is fine, I usually prefer clocks but must admit I don’t mind this TFT. Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed it
Really enjoy your reviews plus youre riding in my backyard rds near Arcadia.
If youre ever on Cattai ridge Id recommend dropping into Scheyville National Park.
Interesting history and well worth looking at all the old Nissin huts and makes a great stop.
Actually I'm pretty sure we filmed most of this one down south side of Sydney, could be wrong, have ridden plenty of bikes and plenty of roads since. Glad to hear you liked the review and thanks for the tip on Scheyville National Park, shall add that to the list of test routes. Thanks for watching and thanks for the support.
I am loving these mid sized bikes coming out lately. Benelli has a rich history but that lion looks like something a little kid would stick on a bike.
agree 100%. It’s seems Benelli are following REs lead in producing affordable and more importantly practical mid capacity bikes
oh yeah, and the less said about the lion the better
@@BikerTorque your right about that...their first international market was India and the first bike made for international markets was the Imperiale 400 which was supposed to take on the older generation classic 350 head on in India! Unfortunately when the 350 reborn was launched it was way ahead of the Benelli on every front!
@@romeldias yeah that new Classic 350 is a winner on all counts, great engine and stylish
Great review. Love the dynamics between the two of you. I think this is a great bike for the price and I like the looks. But I must admit as a millennial I prefer gloss paint. Haha
Hey thanks glad you enjoyed the review. Good to see it’s not just me that likes a gloss colour way
1. For the rear brake, adjust the lever. That helps with the feel and bite.
2. For twitchy throttle, slight adjustment on the throttle cables cures it.
The above sorted out similar items on the TNT 300.
I think the rear brake might have been something to do with the hammering these bikes received at the Australian press launch which did look like a lot of fun. And considering the ride and the conditions they were put through they held up extremely well
I think Chinese junk is rather harsh...the Chinese market is very price sensitive and the regulations are not on par with the world..but a lot of the brands that are present in international markets do have pretty good quality! Benelli is slowly finding its niche and hopefully, soon enough their bikes will reflect that soul! This one looks great!
You are most definitely right, it certainly isn’t a junk bike as we concluded in the video. I’m not sure this bike is aimed at the Chinese market though.
@@BikerTorque absolutely and that is what I meant about some of these Chinese companies. There's Benelli, CFMoto among others that have a China/Asia portfolio and an international footprint as well and their quality matches the market regulations! Benelli is big in India but a lot of these bigger displacement bikes aren't available here as well!
I’ve got to say, I do like the matte paint on this thing.
Each to their own
Thank you
You are welcome
Waiting for your review on RE Super Meteor 650.
Just spoke to Royal Enfield Australia yesterday, should have one mid-late April for review. That’s a bike I’m very much looking forward to riding
I can tell you from years of working with Computers and laptop screens that a matt screen is better for glare so if anything should be better for out door use. I think the issue is that the LCD screen is low budget and is not using a very bright Nits.
It’s an odd one because it does seem reasonably bright, and agree you’d think it would be better outdoors but have to say I had exactly the same issue with the Triumph Scambler XE which is definitely not a budget bike.
This bike surprised-me , as-did 'the-Ownership' of this Brand and the Others . Like India , China appears to be Well-up in The Game these-days , even the Japanese are using China for some Models . I did own a a 650-Benelli-Tornado years-ago and it was fine for what it was, sounded great too . Dave NZ
Hey Dave, thanks for watching. It surprised us also. There are some pretty good bikes coming out of places like China. As for India, I think they have been ahead of the game for quite a while wit brands like Royal Enfield.
Hello, nice review. So, in anticipation of being 'encouraged' back into work for a few days per week, I'm considering a bike for the 30-minute motorway, combined with a 10-minute inner (Melbourne) city traffic commute. Was thinking 350 Forza, but I'm not convinced of the safety aspect of the small wheels, particularly on the motorway. Came across the Benelli 502, which I thought looked quite nice... but reviews seem to concur that it's a little bit gutless. This Benelli 800 looks fantastic & relatively low (I'm only 167cm :( ) ... on the negatives I'm not sure that I'd like it not being a great filterer (does that also imply that it might be a bit 'clumsy' dealing with city traffic? When I take the car, the 10-minute city component can take 30-40minutes!! Also, it occurs to me, the lack of a screen (don't know if it has an option for one) - but might that not make it a bit of a pain on the motorway (@110km/hr). All that said, I would love you hear your thoughts as well as perhaps any suggestions that you might have for alternatives that better meet my particular needs. Many thanks :)
Thanks, glad you liked the review. The Leoncino 800 is a good bike, haven’t ridden the 500 so can’t comment, but I regularly commute about 40 minutes in Sydney on a Royal Enfield Meteor 350 which handles the commute, even a short stretch of freeway just fine. Best take a Leoncino for a test ride, as well as a Royal Enfield Interceptor, but don’t discount the lower engine capacity models because that Royal Enfield J series 350 engine that’s in the Meteor, Classic, Hunter and soon to be released Bullet is a peach.
Hey! Cornering at 4:20... nice line!
Thanks Nathan, that’s a fun bit of Road through the Royal National Park, the first of the hairpins
@@BikerTorque It used to be my old stomping ground. I lived at Hurstville and would get up nice and early on Saturday morning and take the TRX850 for a "spirited" gallop to Stanwell Tops & back, all before Wifey got out of bed. Great way to start the weekend.
*crossplane*
like YAMAHA's CP2 engine
note: the 500 is surprisingly timed\configured like the BMW parallel twin
Yes probably similar. Thanks for watching
Cheeky Teagan. Calling a bloke of our vintage a boomer. She’s Rad.
To Tegan, anyone over the age of 35 is a boomer.
Guys. The Leoncino or little lion in Italian on the front wheel is neither hunk nor junk but the city mascot of Pesaro where the fabric is 😂😂😂
and it is historical as well, the leoncino was on the front of the original model produced in the 50's
@@karlm1495 you are absolutely right 👌👍🏼💡
The plastic lion still looks like junk though
I didn’t know that, thanks for sharing
Are you sure it is made out of plastic? I shall check mine in a weeks time when I am back home (I live in Italy and bought my Leoncino 800 in Italy) and let you know. Maybe the export version for Australia is different
Respectfully I'm not keen on any of these cheaply made bikes until there's transparency or a better gauge as to their reliability. The last survey that carried any weight was the one by Consumer Reports back in 2015. Anecdotal evidence is important but I want to know exactly what a manufacturer's cost savings are going to cost me before I shell out, otherwise I feel we're the ones being taken for a ride. Just my view, don't want to rain on anyone's parade.
Hey Andrew, that’s actually a very valid point and very well articulated. What I would say is that these companies, not just QJ Motor, but Eicher, TVS etc sell thousands of bikes each year in markets with some pretty punishing conditions, but agree reliability and longevity need to be considered. If my Royal Enfield Continental GT is anything to go by, neither is an issue as long as you perform regular maintenance and upkeep which I’d argue you should be doing on any motor vehicle. Thanks for watching and taking time to make such a well thought comment.
@@BikerTorque What gives me confidence with Royal Enfield is that their engines and bikes are all about simplicity (under-stressed), and they've perfected it over decades. Chinese brands don't have such a track record with their emulation of the latest tech which pushes engines to their limits (the oil analysis that FortNine carried out is at least a red flag). So I'll need more convincing to trust these Western brands that are outsourcing much of their stuff to meet the same price point. The number of sales doesn't tell us enough.
@@andrewvickers4487 time will tell I suppose
I know benelli X1014M
cool
tbh Benelli arms and motor are the same family.. @@BikerTorque
That lion is a shocker.
Ross, mate you need to work on your lingo 🤣😂
The lion is a shocker, I’m trying to keep up with these GenYs, I probably need to spend more time in my phone and on Instagram to get jiggy with it. How was that?
@@BikerTorque PMSL please NO! Just stop 🛑 you be you and let Teagan and GenY do their thing. 🤣😂😂 God I hope Teagan doesn’t see your reply 😂🤣😂 You’re a legend mate
@@BigBert 😂😂😂
Looks exactly like an XSR
Certainly does. That’s one of the reasons Tegan reviewed it also as she rides an MT07. Thanks for watching
@@BikerTorque Would you consider Leoncino 800 over Y XSR700? I just stuck in choosing them.
@@bezbogovgreat question. We actually have two new MT07s from Yamaha Australia at the moment, so same engine but different styling to the XSR. Purely based on the grin factor from that engine, I’d say the Benelli, although I imagine they XSR would be a great bike also. The Benelli just has a bit more charm.
How do they make them so cheap!?......oh wait, that's right. Still a cool bike though 👍
Yeah, that’s about the only issue with them.
yes there is a certain aspect to bikes being manufactured in India and China...but i think the more pertinent question is why are other bikes so expensive? It is because of loading up tech or parts that are over-engineered for a bike and pushing a narrative that bigger is better! Every manufacturer has dealt with Indian manufacturing now to understand how to reduce cost - Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, KTM, Triumph, Aprilia, Vespa, Husqvarna...and they are all building small capacity and built-to-a-budget bikes in this part of the world
@@romeldias simple, labour costs in India, Thailand and China are much, much, much lower than the UK, US, Germany and Japan. It’s shy pretty much every manufacturer has a bike in the range that some or all components are made in these countries.
@@romeldias my choice, but I'd much rather ride something that is "over engineered" then then something that's built to a price.....but that's just me. I acknowledge that there's a definite market for these type of bikes....though there's also a market for $2 t shirts as well.
@@baumie4618 fair enough...everyone has their choices...but i have seen bikes with drift mode presets and lean angle control systems....sigh...just leave my bike alone!
for 2024 this bike will have 20hp more
Thats very good news.
First! 😂
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Bellissima
Thanks, really liked the bike
You might as well throw most if not all of your household appliances and walk around naked if you have an aversion to buying Chinese
Actually we said in the video after riding it it was a good bike
Nice strawman. What obviously everyone mean when they say "Chinese-made" is the poor constructive quality. Nobody won't buy it simply because it's Chinese.