Mercedes EQV 1000 km challenge
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- Опубліковано 1 лис 2022
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Nice interview with the german guy, seems like a jolly fellow.
Germans always stand to attention
@35:14 Yes, 1000km challenge in below -20C with Tesla M3LR with aero caps & octovalve would be really interesting.
Have been driving the EQV for 8 months now and gone over 40.000 km. Charging 9 times out of 10 is good, getting over 100kw/h until 60-70% and then 90kw/h until usually hit 80%. I think the curve is very nice and never had issues but never driven on (-20)since I got it so might be issues there. Had trip to Greece covering 1000km per day and all my chargings were great- same in 1000km trips within Norway. Rear hvac can be disabled saving around 5-10% range overall and headlights are adaptive (looks to me at least) as long as u enable them in the drivers menu. In general, with temperatures over 0c charging always hits 100kw even when battery is low as 3% and stays there until 70% more or less- without use of nav etc.Thanks for the video!
good to know how the EQV charges at higher temperatures and that most of the low charging-issues might occur due to the user ignoring the offered charging stops in the navigation thus circumvent the system's pre-conditioning.
This summer I drove 5.000 km EQV in Europe. I can confirm that the charging performance is inconsistent. Regardless of the temperature. My consumption between Berlin and Barcelona and Berlin was 27 kWh /100 km.
What speed did you go on the highway?
@@toughkix6910 between 110 and 130. 5 persons. Full camping equipment. Must have: airmatic suspension
@@ericmentzel5278 Danke 👍
That's really interesting. My long term average is between 26 to 27 kWh/ 100 km over 14,000 miles.
@@peterbrook6866 also the question - at which speeds - as the only problem the consumtion has: on long runs
Thanks for the video Bjørn! I had mine for one year now, and it’s been great 👍 The EQV is rock solid and a comfortable ride. It fits my whole family and then some, and during solo trips at work I enjoy the comfort. For me it’s a great car/van/friend 😊
I think for a huge car like this weather temperature makes a big difference because heating up the internal volume takes lots of energy, and higher density of cold air increases consumption even mor than with smaller cars.
Hey Bjørn,
the problem with the very inconsistent charging speed is directly related to disabling the EQ features in the navigation. If you don't let it set charging stops, it won't pre-heat the battery.
I know it is very conservative, because MBUX doesn't let you go deep into the pack, but if you want decent charging speed, especially in the winter, you need to let it find charging stops on it's own.
I own one myself, and when it calculates the stop too early, I often then drive on to the next stop and at some point after you passed the calculated charging stop, it will pick the next one within reach.
Nice test run btw
This is interesting. Does the EQV actually heat the battery when coming closer to a charge station that is set in the navigator? Can you read about this anywhere? This is the first time I hear about it. Do you know any more about how the heating of the battery is programmed? Is it always off if you don't have a charge station in the navigator? I will be happy for an answer.
@@jannetimgren953 Actually the manual doesn't say anything about it, but like all EQ models, the EQV uses the same software and the same fast charging approach. EQ services need to be enabled and connected to a Mercedes me account, because there is no manual way to pre-condition the battery. The system automatically adds charging stops to your route and you witness the increased energy consumption a couple of minutes before your reach your charging destination. The system will either heat or cool the battery, depending on what is needed. If you use Google or apple maps for navigation, there is no battery pre-condition happening. It must be MBUX.
Thanks for the answer. I don't own an EQV yet but picking one up soon. I live in northern Sweden so this might be very useful.
Does it also have some kind of OTA software updates? It's very hard to find reliable info. I even called Mercedes here in Sweden to ask about the heat pump. They said it doesn't have one.
still stupid disision by MB nerfing the battery this way. it makes the car too smart for its own good. MB managers have forgotten the skill and usage of the average user is far removed of what MB managers think they use the car. the MB software in the EQ models is just garbage, even worse than VAG's ID software and that is a impressive feat, but not one to be proud of. just look at the charging stopping when you lock the door. if you compare it to the buzz its not even a fair comparison, the bus wins by a comical margin. just the 300A limit is utterly dumb from a commerical use if you want to use this van as a passenger shuttle.
@@SupremeRuleroftheWorld Not having the option to manually start the battery pre-condition is definitely something to overthink. At least give the option in MBUX to start it manually, so the EV-nerds like us can optimize their usage. On the other hand, only the nerds like us will use it. The majority of people will just use what the car gives them, and I think for starters it's not a bad decision to let the car decide when to start the pre-conditioning. There are always two sides of the same coin.
i like those big mercedes vans theyre nice.
great video!
I´d love to have on of those Vito E. I have an 16 year old W639 Vito, a diesel-burning one, and I love everything about it except it being a rattling diesel-burner.
is it reliable? expensive to maintain?
@@javieroargubi it is pretty reliable, that the reason I drive it. Spare parts are available all over the world within hours/some days. I keep in in working order myself.
Andreas was so happy 😃
14:15 you don’t drive around with it, it has air ride, the lowest setting ist for car shows / youtube videos only, like you just just proved it. :)
Hi, Bjørn! You know the EQV also has "active highbeam/matrix" headlamps? Use Auto setting on light switch and push indicator stalk forward ;)
18:00 isnt that inside temp? since its on left and right side?
really great car ! I like it . 7 seats for them that need it !!
Brand new Buzz: Controls completely unilluminated. EQV, out for years, based on the V-class on sale since 2014: Controls backlit AND illuminated by a ceiling-mounted spot 😜🤦
Great test as always. So now I'm really curious, how the Stellantis Van would compare. Because the consumption seems to be a little less than EQV from my own experience
Agree. I can beat that time in my E-Traveller long wheel base - has even more space than the EQV🙂
Wow, turns out I always opened bananas the wrong way! Thanks for teaching me XD
Just did a 1700 km long trip in model yp, ohhh man the first 1000km takes about 14~15 hours
Greatly respect for the ~10 hours rush!
You can get even more luxurius interior with electric chairs in the back with more like EQS comfort.
Great video as always! But the car needs 4Matic!
I noticed that you drive on highway with max. recuperation (D- -). Is that your recommendation? I drive the EQV with D+,
120km/h and 4 kids, heating on at 21degC at around 35kWh/100km. (During November in Sweden)
just done 1050km Berlin - Paris in 25 October 2023 with an EQV 2021 just bought in Berlin.
Started 80% in Battery, With 4 Charges at 85% and ride under 110km/h, 16 Hours .
19:55 Norden lights are high . They are gamma and other magnegtic fields " carsh" to atmosphere at space = 300 km high. Plane flight 11 km high.
I never use the Mercedes smart charge thing(navi).. SOOOOO frustrating when it wants to make small stops because you arrive with less than 8%.. I only use ABRP when I need guidance(If I didn't had that app I wouldn't own the car anymore).. Even though it doesn't preheat.. btw. Really wish we will get the Genesis GV60 in Europe and Scandinavia.. Would love to change my EQA250 that has done 120.000km now to that..
Nicer and more practical than Buzz (and of course, a true people carrier… which VW, as yet, isn’t in its’s first-release 5-seat spec). Perhaps needs an upgrade / mk2 now, to address charging speeds and get a bit more range out of it?
Good test and reasonable result really.
The lights are fully automatic but you had them in manual position :D
Wow! 90's retro vibe with infotainment, instruments and even a real ignition key. 👍
I tried the EQV a month ago and really liked it. Too bad, it charges so slowly and has no tow bar.
Lol towing with this bus will need a lot of charging. It uses empty already so much
With my EQV I get 110-112 kw/h when i charge at Ionity stations :-)
I can confirm that. My High Score was 114kw.
That's my experience too
Are a Vito ev or more bigger?
Hi.. what that bottle doing on the floor while you were charging? Is it ABC = always bring cola... 😆
? Isn’t 16:30 to 3:30 11h? According to the clock on the dash the time was 10:55 not 11:55.
Or did i miss something?
You are doing some ABT in the car. Always be Toasting
Hi Björn. I have now “buried” myself in some of your spreadsheet details 🎉👍🏻 Would it be an idea for you to give each car a “TeslaBjörn” score - where you rate every car from 1 to 10 in relevant categories - and maybee a general everyday category score and a travel/ holliday category score and a grand total score?
There's only one Doug DeMuro :P
Isnt real data better than any arbitrary score?
I just want a comprehensive list of EVs that you can properly fit 3 child seats in!
why not have the chart available for download and rate the specifications for your own individual needs?
Did the clocks change? I only ask because you started at 16:30 and finished at 03:39 less deductions, so 10hrs 55min?
Yeah, according to the live stream the test was done during last weekend when the clocks changed from summer to winter time.
Yes. Also mentioned in the video.
What makes the EQV / e-Vito best choice for me: second row with rear faced seats: you are allowed to mount child seats. That is important for us, because so you can extend the time to ride like in reboarder seat, which is much safer for the kids.
No other electric Van offers this opportunity. ABC - always buy childsafety
Reboarders are meant to be mounted on forward facing seats, so I don't get the rear faced seats argument... Also not sure if there are any seats that actually certified to be mounted on rear facing seats. At least the ones i checked only were allowed on forward facing seats. Do you have an example, where it is allowed to be mounted on rear facing seats?
I wonder how we all survived until yet. Driving with parents in a 601 over 1200 km. Reboarders are a good marketing manouver to trick you into the expensive ones...
@@Rangarid I double checked with the manufacturer Britax Römer today. They assured me that all seat of the product line KIDFIX are allowed to use in the described scenario. Which is: V-class / EQV, second row in reverse with child seat of the group 3,5-12 years/100-150cm/15-36kg. Doing this, you can continue to transport kids in the safest way.
Somehow my comments here got deleted before, so if you see multiple then sorry ;)
And even more got deleted -.- What i said is check the manufacturer website again, there might have been a misunderstanding with the backwards facing terminology. The reboarder is in general backwards facing so maybe they misunderstood your question. On the other kids seat they say they are forward facing. I can't find anything that it is allowed to be used on backward seats.
I think ID Buzz is more desirable because of shorter length, 4.71m vs 5.14m
You can order EQV in normal or long wheelbase
Aren’t the Tesla Vision cars also limited to 135km/h when in cruise control?
I think the charging speed would be acceptable if the efficiency was better. If it could do 300-350km between charging stops, the charging speeds wouldn’t be a big deal.
They've been raised to 140, since that's the highest highway speed limit in Europe.
It seems like you consistently get slower charging whenever you get the battery really low (I guess under 6% or so) - Could it be that it doesn't pre-heat the battery for charging, if you arrive with less than, say 8% remaining? That sounds more likely, than such a relatively small outside temperature change having such a large impact on charging speed. Also would be interesting to see if the larger EVs with pretty bad aerodynamics would benefit from a lower speed (e.g. 100-110 km/h) in the 1000km test.
What I recall and have seen in numerous tests: They do benefit from lower speeds. In fact almost every EV benefits from sticking to 100-110km/h rather than go 130 and quicker.
Can't wait for the model Y rwd... I Hope that you have One before mine arrives!
A big miss on the charging speed With such a big battery.
But can you tow a small aluminium fishing boat with 100 hp outboard engine with it? And how far, if you can?
You mention the biggest disadvantage of the EQV, no towing. 😢
Shout out to the German guy. He seemed so cool.
Does this comes with 5 seater version?
When I’m correct you can have 5, 6, 7, 8 seats in the EQV. The e-Vito can also have nine seats.
You can remove all the rear seats if you wish just leaving the front two seats.
"This is where you smuggle drugs into the country"
🤣🤣🤣
a major disadvantage is that it cannot be driven with any trailer
I'm team Bjørn and the monkeys with the banana. This is the way!
12h? quite a capable van then
In Poland 1кwt coast 2zl, 35×2=70zl
250 VClass eat 8lt diesel on 100km
1lt coast 7zl , 8×7=56zl on 100km, what sense in electric car??? I don't understand this.
ABE always be eating
This car needs to become 10-20% more efficient and should charge at 170kw like EQS, otherwise no thanks
Hard to make it much more efficient at that size.
Why don't made some crazy video with a Opel Ampera Rev to made 1000km?
Learned a norwegian word today. Obviously "ledig" , in german "unmarried", means free, or something like that. So, who wants to marry a charging pole?
Time for ID Buzz lwb...
If the idea is to do 1000km as fast as possible, wouldn't it be better to limit the speed to 100 km/h when the car charges this slow?
No. It would make sense if it was charging at 20-30 kW only.
Always Buy Calade
The id buzz is very cool, but I’d take the merc! 🥰
I'd always take an EQV over a Buzz, cause in the Mercedes you can at least see and feel where the money went. Looking forward to the facelift tho, hope to see some changes regarding infotainment, charging and range.
Old tech.. isn't it just a Vito with seats and windows ?
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Next time try a video during daylight. Much nicer to watch.
No thanks
Germans can’t do advanced electronics and software but the guys in the management know how to buy bespoke Italien shoes 👞 so one have to prioritize 😅
Guess not long and EVs for northern markets will come with a diesel heater and small diesel tank for heating the battery.
that what might really be the case - like in campers
110km/h is enough with that fat van. You could have been faster at this speed, saving a lot of energy. 1000 km challenge rules driving a brick. Could be cool to do a video « Slower is faster », just because to waste so much energy with no timing gain is a nonsense, especialy during this energy crisis.
Nope
@@bjornnyland Nope ?
Interesting summary. EQV is a good car,not so much a good EV. And that's the sense I get from feedback of several legacy vehicles. My own ID3 is a really good car. Not so good an EV, imo.
The eGolf is the way better car, if it had the +15kwh the id3 has, it would have been the car to get. It’s still a VERY good car, but more for everything under 400-500km. For more the ID3 has the upper leg in driving convenience… so maybe the ID isn’t a especially good car, but a good EV? 🙂
@@erebostd Well I've had experience of both Golf and ID3, and the latter is easily the superior car. By being no so good an EV I mean that EVs are much more than mere cars. The ID3 (and all ID Series vehicles) are let down by their poor software, although it is improving now.
Golf 7.5 GTI is the best car 😅
PLEASE Tesla make a decent VAN. Cause apparently nobody else can. The EQV is a nice hull, but the EV part sucks, just as the software. Im in the market for such a van in 1-2 years. Hope there will be a decent one by then. I did a test drIve in the EQV about one year ago. Shit than, still shit now. Need at least 300km real highway range and min 150kwh chargespeed till 70%.
others can - but there seems to be to little demand... and esp. in europe the regulation with 3.5 tons... which the EQV is already maxing out with load.
@@nur_johnny8713 european tax regulations, and the frequent changes of them, makes EVs a financial risk. Conventional fossil lobby wins, politicians change, the people lose.
EQV doesn’t look like an EV
Should be a way better van than a VW
EQV is probably condemned to disappearance
Fill diesel in 3-5 min ;=) and 7-900 km hehe
Diesel is very expensive and also polluting.