Logically speaking life is absurd but Suicide is not at all logically connected to it, Suicide is an emotional response to the absurd. And if you think about it a series of logical arithmetic with the information you have led you the conclusion of absurd and Suicide . Similarly it is possible some event,information, relationship emotion might somehow mitigate the suicidal response to absurd And that is what I'm chasing.
wish if we could study whatever we like not what market demand but honestly there is nothing I want to go very deep into I mostly lose interest when it become like chore although I’m interested in many things but I don't like doing one thing especially when it become repetitive I need constant stimulation
@@mohammed88airthen dont, you wont achieve much, but youll enjoy your time on earth more, unless you think youre missing out on achieving something greater than becoming a jack of all trades but a master of none
I agree with @voiboi405 !! can we read it? I am close to finishing my degree in literature/writing and would love to see your take! Granted, I've not seen trainspotting but am an avid Camus fan!
Rebelling and choosing life is the only way to escape the dread and depression brought by the realisation that nothing matters in the grand scheme of things..... I appreciate this video a lot
I've never watched this movie in full, but come across videos like this pretty often. The title "Trainspotting" alone fills me with a sense of bitter sorrow. Trainspotting is such a frivolous activity. It captures the imagination and enthousiasm of a small child, able to experience wonder and excitement at something as simple as watching trains pass by. That, juxtaposed against the numbness and harsh reality of drug addiction is just gut-wrenching to me.
I think there's also a pretty big historical perspective to take since it takes place in Scotland in the late 80s; the protagonist going ''choose a job, a television, etc'' and ''it's shit being Scottish'' seems to echo with the zeitgeist that came with the Thatcher years and the dissolution of the social sphere of the UK around that time. There's a push toward a form of individualism that isolates people and creates pretty meaningless existences, where attempts at chasing a successful comfortable life just lead toward a form of conformism that's akin to an absurd existence. There's no goal beyond your personal financial success (as per the words of Thatcher, 'there's no society, there are only individuals'), meaning that your freedom under this new system is limited to your consumption choices. There are different moments where the movie depicts other forms of consumption as being akin to taking drugs, and the main character decries that at points too. ''Choosing life'' there expresses a form of alienation where your agency over your life has been lost and reduced to merely chasing pleasure, so it makes sense that you end up with characters like those in the movie. It's not just that they're fighting the inherent absurd condition of existence, but also that their life has been emptied of meaning by the system they're a part of, they're like a symptom of a society that's shite to live in and where all you can aspire to is to find things to consume.
@@azaraniichan Honestly kinda feel bad because I thought I was dragging the video too long if I were to write a bit more about that mentality of consumerism and its effects in the depicted era. Great thought man!
@@kantar007 it would have made for a different subject that may not have been fitting with the interpretation of absurdist themes so that makes sense, plus it works perfectly well so there isn't anything illegitimate about it (also the editing is very sick btw !)
Banger video, bruh. You are so correct about us taking this conversation for granted. Im 29 and im just realizing how fucking important it is to stay busy and live in the moment (choosing life.) No matter how mundane the task is, stay busy. Chasing dopamine will f you up. Stay busy and stay up, my friends.
Well I used the criterion edition which I think is just the movie upscaled or something and I also export in 4k out of premiere for like hours on end haha
i’m not good at sorting my thoughts about movies. your words gave me a fresh take on the movie. well made. i wish you didn’t randomly stop the subtitles though. i’m not a native speaker and they help me hear the words.
I never leave comments but i have to say thank you for making this. I so wish there was more acknowledgement of this truths and their consequences. Choose free will.
This opening and closing monologue of that film has been burned into my brain since I was 14 This book and film has had a major impact on me Thank you Irvine welsh
@@kantar007 tbh to truly get a full picture of well written movies u gotta see it twice, once to discover the plot and the 2nd time to fully connect the dots
Near death experiences reinvigorate the appreciation of life. If you can squeeze in a bit of thrill or danger inbetween the mundane, your life would be full. Examples may be skydiving, parkour, high intensity tag, group hunting, skiing or anything novel. And those are just the legal options...
Personally I fight, I do MMA and spar at high intensity which literally leaves your hands shaking after and it pumps you full of adrenaline but sometimes I do some other dumb stuff as well lol
i don't need to risk my life to understand that eternal non-existence is a worse option if comparing it to existence, but that doesn't make existence good
@@LOLHAXGUN because unlike religious stuff, it has at least a little basis, because it's proven that you - your brain, nonthing more than that, no soul and other nonsense like energy and whatever else therefore, once you're dead - you're no longer exist and never will exist ever again, everything else is just a copium and inability to accept this harsh reality
Greeting from Taiwan, My mother recommended me to watch Trainspotting four years ago, honestly I did not have positive impression toward the film initially, but it somehow stay in my heart. And as I grow, I begin to feel the meaning of the movie: better school, better job, better salary, better partner, better friendship, better government, better moral standard... It's always being better, then suddenly the film appear in my mind. This film might not serve a pupose for entertaining its audience, but it definitely teach audience to reflect on their own ideas, decisions, emotions... etc. And your video, man, the Camus's three action after acknowledging the absurdity. IT'S DEFINITELY DAWN ON ME. Thanks, bro.
Thank you, watched way too long ago in my abdolescence to actually start looking into the meaning this deep. You have reminded me about this movie and opened a way to analyze it. Albert Camus absurdism explaining was also greatly explained for me as someone who is interested in philosophy.
The mic quality is pretty fine compared to your first two videos and your editing is clean. Id love to hear more about social commentary and media analysis from you because you do some lovely analysis on it. keep it up!
Thank you for the explanation. I watched this the other week for the first time and was just too swept up in the style and music from the movie. It is truly a masterclass in fashion, but now I love it for the meaning as well.
Great video. I think Absurdism is mere anthropomorphizing. Which means "To ascribe human characteristics to things not human." This is why, I believe, Socrates said that the only wisdom is knowing that I know nothing. This life is a mystery, nobody knows who we are and why we are here. The mistake, or the human tragedy is that we need a comforting answer to everything. I think the industrial society has granted so much privilege to individual that many of us suffer from paralysis analysis. Thought seems to be the root of the problem. Human today is more left-brain hemisphere oriented than before. This can be connected to the idea that we have become ever more analytical, and suffer from overthinking. We think so much we think there's nothing else to life. When there's no spaciousness in the mind, there is no order and no possibility to observe with clarity. Freedom is when there is no self-interest at all. But for many of us our sense of self is too strong that there is attachment, and we're satisfied with the "choose life" mediocrity, forms of escapes and the life which is a cycle of pleasure and fear. My point is that many of us are preoccupied with thinking so that we never truly look or listen, so we develop all kinds of ideas and beliefs. Truth is a pathless land.. But many of us are confused and begin to look for answers externally, forgetting what is inside you.
I wouldn't describe it better. This is my favorite film so far! I also love the fact that this film (and book too) has an another tier of mockery to is the Imperialsm and Britain's efforts to forcing their culture to Scotland. That's one of the morals that why our characters use drugs. Resisting to numbing and conquering culture of Britain. Although... yeah they numbing themselves again. I read this on a site, I don't it's officially true or not. But to me it's quite possible.
Oh man, I really liked the video. I haven't studied philosophy at all besides what was mandatory in high school, but I've always found it interesting. Hope you make more of this. Edit: about the audio, it sounds better than a lot of channels and the volume seems good. In my opinion, your current setup is good for until you decide to spend 150$+ on a decent mic (and possibly an external audio interface). What you could do now for free is apply EQ to your voice, if you're not doing that already.
Logically speaking life is absurd but Suicide is not at all logically connected to it, Suicide is an emotional response to the absurd. And if you think about it a series of logical arithmetic with the information you have led you the conclusion of absurd and Suicide . Similarly it is possible some event,information, relationship emotion might somehow mitigate the suicidal response to absurd And that is what I'm chasing.
Must be my fav movie of all time. Once i didn't have nothing else entertainment than dvd of this and played with ps3 every morning over a winter before school.
im so glad i watched this- i forgot how much Camus’ work influenced my thinking lol i haven’t seen this movie since i was like 19 or so, and i never figured out why he hung out with those horrible people he called ‘friends’ lol. this was excellent, i appreciate this video. thank you
The thing about Rent Boy hating his friends... Well that is usually kind of how it goes. When I was an active drug addict who hung out with other junkies I hated almost all of my friends. We all disliked each other and hung out because it didn't matter who was sitting next to you getting high with you because atleast it was someone. And I hated myself too so how could I have liked people who were just like me? Real friendships among drug addicts are very rare. Most are based on needs, maybe your "friend" deals speed and you sell some of his drugs for him so you get a free point, maybe this other friend is good at stealing so you hang out with him because when he steals alcohol he shares it with you. And when I had no money or drugs I was almost always either alone or with one addict friend trying to come up with money, but when I did happen to have drugs and money all of a sudden I had lots of friends who wanted to hang out. I'm so glad I stopped shooting up and I am even more grateful for the fact I don't hang out with people like that anymore. Sure there were fun times especially when we were teenagers but overall that life is not a good life, it sucks and it fucks you up and leaves you with so much trauma and problems.
I choose life because I feel like I owe a certain amount of debt to any individual in my life who has helped me and that I am not allowed to die until I have at least fulfilled that. I may not care about anything but they do.
I'd say the important part is that it's very easy to "choose life" when you have a bag of money on your back... I see that as a message. Too many of us are thrown into life by those who can't even take care of themselves, a child of such people won't chose life most of the time, unless God has decided to give them special talents. Everything in life boils down to luck, if you don't believe that, you haven't thought it through.
True, but I also think that Renton taking that bag of money for himself was a part of him "choosing life". He didn't have the big bag of money, but it was there, and he took it. he chose that path instead of letting his shithead abusive friends get it. Very good point regardless, it's always easy to say "choose life" when you have the cash, but I just wanted to look a bit deeper at it and make my own point on the matter.
i believe luck is a myth, i believe randomness is a myth, hear me out… look into nature and life until you begin to see the patterns, patterns, patterns, things that seem “random” on one level always make sense when you can zoom out, you begin to see the perfection, the symmetry, the “intelligence” behind it all.. i’m not claiming this as absolute truth, but it is in my reality.. even if it’s not true outside yourself, if you take on this mindset of everything having meaning and everything being perfect, INCLUDING the hardship, the pain, the confusion, if you accept it all as purposeful, then all u have to do is find the purpose, the reason for it all, it could appear in an infinite amount of ways but these principles always apply.. find the reason for your suffering and let it fuel you, let it serve as nutrients to help you grow, whether it be physically, mentally, or spiritually.. it really comes down to a victim mentality vs a student mentality. the victim sees their hardships as meaningless and horrible, nothing good can come from this mindset.. the student sees his hardships as lessons, teachers, clues and hints, he transmutes his pain into growth, and ultimately this growth leads to Love.. it’s alchemy, and anyone can do it. ❤❤ wishing u the best
"Everything in life boils down to luck" Not true. If you miss your bus in the morning you aren't out of luck, you just haven't left your house early enough to catch the bus. You can get "lucky" in life (get job offers you actually want, get with a girl you like) but you need to be prepared for those occasions. Have a good enough CV, have good enough looks and be more social etc. "Choosing life" in this context takes hard HARD work. And yes, VERY rarely will you ever have a bag of cash just landing on your lap. But Renton at the start of the movie would have blown it all anyway.
6:30. Isn't that what our ancestors did for thousands of years. Rebelled against our Circumstances. Being to stubborn to accept them. Always kept on pushing for a better life which lead us to where we are today. The same stubbornness caveman used to battle saberthooths we are using to wake up every morning and go to our jobs.
As someone who has gone through opiate withdrawal more times than I can count I can say that the things he saw weren't nightmares. They had to have been hallucinations because the worst aspect of withdrawal is that you are not sleeping, at all. If you have a bunch of benzos then you can sleep or maybe some type of heavy sedative but even that can backfire. I took a Seroquel one night during withdrawal, a drug that I could never stay awake on, but all it did was make the inability to get comfortable even worse but no sleep at all. It's something you can't escape from via sleep and anyone who has insomnia can testify lack of sleep makes everything worse.
@@jamesstaggs4160 thank you, I actually had no idea if that scene was an over exageration or dream sequence or hallucinations so I just wrote down what I thought it was
There's also T2, the sequel in which they're basically 20 years older and Renton returns to Edimburgh, just to find out that things are quite the same. Still, it's also a great movie, even if not essential it's pretty good.
You don't get it. It's just you. I'm you. I'm you talking to you. I will keep talking to you until you realize that your me and that i'm you. I don't have my own consciousness. I'm you. I'm a fragment of your consciousness. You imagined that I have my own consciousness for the purpose of fooling yourself into thinking that your not alone, that your not God.
I don’t want to live a life without tasting everything. Run for my life, live in luxury, climb a mountain, almost die, cry, then go through it all again. With a smile. I maybe want one person to be my lover, that’s it.. some friends why not. Besides that I want to be a virtuoso in the craft of drawing and basically earn enough money to afford an extreme lifestyle. But I will never touch alcohol or drugs. Waste of money. The biggest sin one can make is waste time.
My favourite movie and my favourite philosopher just in one video. Keep on going, i really enjoyed your interpretation :) So what does Trainspotting 2 mean in relation to Camus?
to be honest, I did watch T2 the other day but it was really passive, I didn't leave with that much not gonna lie lmao but maybe I will do one on T2 in the future!
that's the thing that I find probably most displeasing in religious retribution, the hereditary inheritance of the sins of our ancestors (like adam and eve in the case of christianity) and the non-consentuality of our limited existence that pertains from the unredeemable sins of our predecessors
It's a moot point for the atheist though. If you don't believe in any sort of afterlife then the only thing left is reality as we know it. So non-existence isn't even an option.
Looks like nowadays everyone is talking about absurdism and existencialism, and I think this philosophy is kinda depressing, because you see, Camus tell us to rebel against the absurdity of reality, but why? In the end of the day you'll know that nothing matters anyway, if you don't believe in a god you know that someday you'll die and everything you did will be left behind and that's it... but maybe that's not the problem. I don't know, sometimes everything seems so confusing, because there's no right answer to nothing, there is no great purpose or meaning in life. Right know I'm just paralyzed thinking about it, and another day goes away... Anyway, good video man I think it's important to think about things like this sometimes but it really can bring you down if you think too much ( sorry if said something wrong tough, English is not my primary language, if I can say like that)
Completely agree with you man, I think the whole existentialism/absurdism thing is kinda big on the internet and in general now and I used to be really big into it (hence this video) but at this point in my life I feel exactly word for word as you said, paralyzed. The existential dread eats away at me almost every night now. Kind of why I’m taking sort of a step back from existentialism in philosophy, it’s really done to death lol but it’s also bothering me to a certain extent. Didn’t really wanna make another video about absurdism but I did really wanna make an essay about trainspotting, the next one will probably be about van gogh I think!
Currently pretty desperate for meaning. The thing with life and happiness, as far as I understand it, is that you literally have to give into being a human being. We're not some higher being, just because we are sentient. We still fall under everything that we as "animals" need. If one thing is missing, you do not get the chemicals that make us happy - you become unfulfilled. Leave out one healthy thing you'll get "sick". I've been resenting the fact that I'm basically just a biological robot. Just trying to find enough leeway for anything that makes me me, and the rest... I must conform. Do all those things that "normal people" do. It is almost disturbing to think about for me. If this is rebellion, it's against everything I ever thought I value in a way.
Definitely a great thought man, it’s just a super hard topic at the end of the day to be honest, we’ve got no clear answer as to what we should and what we are doing. Biological robots programmed by a society of people that also don’t know what they are doing and by nature I suppose, either way, thanks for the comment man thats really something to think about
I think this philosophy ignores something, the fact that not all paths are monotonous and plain. Life is painful, and "metaphysical rebellion" does not have to end in the choice of "life" as you put it. Upon such a realization of absurdity would it not seem that choosing addiction is equally a form a rebellion, if one does not see any of the paths as better what, if anything, of substance being rebelled against? By the fulfillment of one's natural and basic needs of health and community(arguably more or less) there can be found "real" interest and happiness. A happiness defined by the simple fact that it is evolutionarily logical that an illogical emotional preference will be held for those actions that fulfill the continuation of life the the best degree. The spell of monotony is then broken. Then there could be found a happiness not in constant excitement, fulfillment, or success but rather an intangible rightness and satisfaction not necessarily in situation but in internal existence. tldr: disagree with the philosophy and would love to hear any alternate perspective/critique
I did say that their addiction is a form of rebellion against the absurd, however this rebellion ends in a worse, more painful and ultimately more unfulfilling cycle of monotony. I am bummed out that I rushed this video, I could have definitely written more and talked about what you mention. In turn it was more of a view purely through the camusian lens. I will keep this in mind for future videos on philosophy so thank you!
@@kantar007 Wow it sounds great- I knew it was familiar too. It almost sounds like you are standing outside a club with Joy Division/Bahaus playing inside.
When my non-speaking English ears get accustumed to your accent you go an' throw in subtitles! It just destroys my concentration because I go back to my comfort zone. Lol. I think it is an odd artisc choice, but I think you did it because you wanted to adumbrate certain points, rigth? Anyway great video, buddy. Since I do not use headphones I did not notice any microphone "problems"; I just thought that it is the way you talk.
@@cAvAlEiRode thanks for the feedback man, I’m still figuring this stuff out, like my accent (cause im not of english origin either) and how I edit them and other stuff. I truly do appreciate people giving me actual criticism and stuff so thanks again!
You're welcome, mate. Lately UA-cam has recommended me some poor quality videos from small channels, so when I saw that your channel is brand new I was quite surprised, in a good way: I believe that you are very close to the mark when it comes to the standard quality for thriving essay channels. A little more tweaking and tinkering and you'll get there, I think. There's a moment in the video, for instance, when the screen goes black, it was a great moment of introspection and it certainly gave you a break in the editing department, huh? Hahaha. The ideas and praxis clearly are within your grasp. I hope you can prosper and improve, in spite of UA-cam's algorithms and shenanigans. Cheers, bruv!
@@kantar007I’m a native us English speaker and have no problem understanding you, but I’ve also been watching UA-cam since a young teenager hearing all sorts of accents, and grew up in somewhat of a melting pot of cultures in my city… seemed fine to me lol I didn’t even consider it being difficult to understand until I saw the comment. I use headphones too lol… but also I’m kinda retarded and prefer eastern European or just non-us English accents when it comes to philosophy/or retrospective videos, especially when I’m listening before going to sleep. Usually people with yours and similar accents tend to speak a bit slower and more emotionally instead of using filler words and speaking fast which I find more relaxing
My point being I don’t think you needa change anything, I subscribed as soon as I heard about 30 seconds and was surprised at your subscriber count! Keep it up and eventually invest in a better microphone or maybe even just find a better audio leveling/recording software if you feel the need but I’d listen to this all day. Suppose it could have a tiny bit of compression and or some leveling of the mid/high so your voice sounds a little clearer but it doesn’t sound bad just like you’ve got a deep voice… keep it up man this was a great video I’d love to see longer form content from you in the not too distant future
@@s7nseer thank you man! I also gotta say you have a keen ear for accents, I'm from romania but compared to my peers and most people my accent is a little weird/different lol (usually it's a more russian like accent). But once again, thanks a lot, you guys that take the time out of your day to write these comments on smaller channels really push me that much more to make good videos, initially it was just a passion project (I really didn't care about views and stuff lol) but the support I've gotten is just mental man, and it helps me that much more!
sorry for the shit mic you guys lol
p.s. if you do have criticism please do comment, I truly wanna make the best video essays I can, thanks
I don’t have any criticism I like your view on the subject and I think the tone of your mic/voice suits the type of video very well, great job !
When you're speaking on the absurd you have nothing to be sorry for king
thank you guys!
Logically speaking life is absurd but Suicide is not at all logically connected to it, Suicide is an emotional response to the absurd.
And if you think about it a series of logical arithmetic with the information you have led you the conclusion of absurd and Suicide .
Similarly it is possible some event,information, relationship emotion might somehow mitigate the suicidal response to absurd And that is what I'm chasing.
love the video, about the mic you can try something like DIY pop filter if you dont have one.
UA-cam recommendations really cooked today
really glad you liked it bro!
what is it with 300 subs ppls taking off running like this
Pull out and cum on my tummy
Your brain is cooked..
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i studied philosophy at university and wrote my dissertation on absurdism and existentialism in trainspotting- great video dude
thanks so much man that means a lot to me! I can only hope these videos I make can help me with film university as well when I get there haha
wish if we could study whatever we like not what market demand but honestly there is nothing I want to go very deep into I mostly lose interest when it become like chore although I’m interested in many things but I don't like doing one thing especially when it become repetitive I need constant stimulation
@@mohammed88airthen dont, you wont achieve much, but youll enjoy your time on earth more, unless you think youre missing out on achieving something greater than becoming a jack of all trades but a master of none
Can we read it???
I agree with @voiboi405 !! can we read it? I am close to finishing my degree in literature/writing and would love to see your take! Granted, I've not seen trainspotting but am an avid Camus fan!
Rebelling and choosing life is the only way to escape the dread and depression brought by the realisation that nothing matters in the grand scheme of things..... I appreciate this video a lot
@@Phantoww thank you!
Don't want to disappoint mom tho...
@@kantar007 can you do a video on fear and loathing in los angeles...never saw one and i really think it needs one
I've never watched this movie in full, but come across videos like this pretty often.
The title "Trainspotting" alone fills me with a sense of bitter sorrow. Trainspotting is such a frivolous activity. It captures the imagination and enthousiasm of a small child, able to experience wonder and excitement at something as simple as watching trains pass by. That, juxtaposed against the numbness and harsh reality of drug addiction is just gut-wrenching to me.
I see so many great thoughts in the comments that never even came across my mind while writing this essay, that's a really good one man!
I love it. Whenever I open these type of videos I head straight down to the comments. So many interesting people having interesting stuff to say.
I love Trainspotting for exactly this reason. Well articulated! I'm glad I found this
@@matyasbures8248 thank you! when I finished making the video I thought the essay could have been way better, but I’m glad some people like it!
I think there's also a pretty big historical perspective to take since it takes place in Scotland in the late 80s; the protagonist going ''choose a job, a television, etc'' and ''it's shit being Scottish'' seems to echo with the zeitgeist that came with the Thatcher years and the dissolution of the social sphere of the UK around that time.
There's a push toward a form of individualism that isolates people and creates pretty meaningless existences, where attempts at chasing a successful comfortable life just lead toward a form of conformism that's akin to an absurd existence. There's no goal beyond your personal financial success (as per the words of Thatcher, 'there's no society, there are only individuals'), meaning that your freedom under this new system is limited to your consumption choices.
There are different moments where the movie depicts other forms of consumption as being akin to taking drugs, and the main character decries that at points too. ''Choosing life'' there expresses a form of alienation where your agency over your life has been lost and reduced to merely chasing pleasure, so it makes sense that you end up with characters like those in the movie. It's not just that they're fighting the inherent absurd condition of existence, but also that their life has been emptied of meaning by the system they're a part of, they're like a symptom of a society that's shite to live in and where all you can aspire to is to find things to consume.
@@azaraniichan Honestly kinda feel bad because I thought I was dragging the video too long if I were to write a bit more about that mentality of consumerism and its effects in the depicted era. Great thought man!
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@@kantar007 it would have made for a different subject that may not have been fitting with the interpretation of absurdist themes so that makes sense, plus it works perfectly well so there isn't anything illegitimate about it (also the editing is very sick btw !)
Playing really quiet Undertale Music in the background is a really nice touch to this masterfully crafted video
@@sebu6831 thanks man! I might actually use that if it’s copyright free
I really enjoyed Trainspotting every time I watched. It is really a piece of art!
just read : "unveiling your hidden potential" and you will realise everything
Banger video, bruh. You are so correct about us taking this conversation for granted. Im 29 and im just realizing how fucking important it is to stay busy and live in the moment (choosing life.) No matter how mundane the task is, stay busy. Chasing dopamine will f you up. Stay busy and stay up, my friends.
Thats the mindset man🙏
Nope, a mundane boring job literally takes lufe away from me. I lose my soul in the process. I get extremely depressed by boring annoying jobs
@@oranges557fax. Doing menial tasks is when I get in my head and feel depressed
Ngl this is the most clearest and crispest footage of Trainspotting, I'm actually impressed how you got this. 👍
Well I used the criterion edition which I think is just the movie upscaled or something and I also export in 4k out of premiere for like hours on end haha
i’m not good at sorting my thoughts about movies. your words gave me a fresh take on the movie. well made. i wish you didn’t randomly stop the subtitles though. i’m not a native speaker and they help me hear the words.
@@dasei777 sorry about that, I’ve gotten some mixed reviews on the subtitles but I think I will keep them full fletched in the next videos
I never leave comments but i have to say thank you for making this. I so wish there was more acknowledgement of this truths and their consequences.
Choose free will.
@@jackdure thank you man!
This opening and closing monologue of that film has been burned into my brain since I was 14
This book and film has had a major impact on me
Thank you Irvine welsh
This is actually one of the most succinct summations of absurdist philosophy I’ve seen.
@@MenelikTheFirst thank you man!
Last time i watched trainspotting i was much too young to grasp all of this. I must watch it again
@@renaudfensie3020 Honestly had to watch it twice to really come up with a concrete essay on it, great movie.
@@kantar007 tbh to truly get a full picture of well written movies u gotta see it twice, once to discover the plot and the 2nd time to fully connect the dots
Near death experiences reinvigorate the appreciation of life. If you can squeeze in a bit of thrill or danger inbetween the mundane, your life would be full. Examples may be skydiving, parkour, high intensity tag, group hunting, skiing or anything novel. And those are just the legal options...
Personally I fight, I do MMA and spar at high intensity which literally leaves your hands shaking after and it pumps you full of adrenaline but sometimes I do some other dumb stuff as well lol
i don't need to risk my life to understand that eternal non-existence is a worse option if comparing it to existence, but that doesn't make existence good
@@CamelliaFlingert i guess i was referring more to the rush of adrenaline, and anything near death can exibit it in great amounts.
@@CamelliaFlingert why be so sure that it is eternal?
@@LOLHAXGUN because unlike religious stuff, it has at least a little basis, because it's proven that you - your brain, nonthing more than that, no soul and other nonsense like energy and whatever else
therefore, once you're dead - you're no longer exist and never will exist ever again, everything else is just a copium and inability to accept this harsh reality
Meaning in life is when you get blessed with these absolute banger videos 😋
thank you thong yorke!
*”The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it.“*
Greeting from Taiwan,
My mother recommended me to watch Trainspotting four years ago, honestly I did not have positive impression toward the film initially, but it somehow stay in my heart.
And as I grow, I begin to feel the meaning of the movie: better school, better job, better salary, better partner, better friendship, better government, better moral standard...
It's always being better, then suddenly the film appear in my mind.
This film might not serve a pupose for entertaining its audience, but it definitely teach audience to reflect on their own ideas, decisions, emotions... etc.
And your video, man, the Camus's three action after acknowledging the absurdity. IT'S DEFINITELY DAWN ON ME.
Thanks, bro.
@@Arabesque_1220 thank you man!
Thank you, watched way too long ago in my abdolescence to actually start looking into the meaning this deep. You have reminded me about this movie and opened a way to analyze it. Albert Camus absurdism explaining was also greatly explained for me as someone who is interested in philosophy.
I'm glad you can see it through this lens now!
The mic quality is pretty fine compared to your first two videos and your editing is clean. Id love to hear more about social commentary and media analysis from you because you do some lovely analysis on it. keep it up!
@@TrulyDelta thanks again man!!
Thank you for the explanation. I watched this the other week for the first time and was just too swept up in the style and music from the movie. It is truly a masterclass in fashion, but now I love it for the meaning as well.
@@Frothy_Mead im glad you enjoyed it!
Great video. I think Absurdism is mere anthropomorphizing. Which means "To ascribe human characteristics to things not human." This is why, I believe, Socrates said that the only wisdom is knowing that I know nothing.
This life is a mystery, nobody knows who we are and why we are here. The mistake, or the human tragedy is that we need a comforting answer to everything.
I think the industrial society has granted so much privilege to individual that many of us suffer from paralysis analysis.
Thought seems to be the root of the problem. Human today is more left-brain hemisphere oriented than before. This can be connected to the idea that we have become ever more analytical, and suffer from overthinking.
We think so much we think there's nothing else to life. When there's no spaciousness in the mind, there is no order and no possibility to observe with clarity.
Freedom is when there is no self-interest at all. But for many of us our sense of self is too strong that there is attachment, and we're satisfied with the "choose life" mediocrity, forms of escapes and the life which is a cycle of pleasure and fear.
My point is that many of us are preoccupied with thinking so that we never truly look or listen, so we develop all kinds of ideas and beliefs. Truth is a pathless land.. But many of us are confused and begin to look for answers externally, forgetting what is inside you.
Brillian thought man, I wish I would have come up with something like this to use in the video🙏
okay i’m gonna choose life
conform
@@alexxx4434ok but what if I want to do something good with my life
Thank you for making this video, it really spoke to me! I needed to see this today.
@@NorthernTomato It’s my pleasure!
I wouldn't describe it better. This is my favorite film so far! I also love the fact that this film (and book too) has an another tier of mockery to is the Imperialsm and Britain's efforts to forcing their culture to Scotland. That's one of the morals that why our characters use drugs. Resisting to numbing and conquering culture of Britain. Although... yeah they numbing themselves again.
I read this on a site, I don't it's officially true or not. But to me it's quite possible.
Thanks for this video man, it feels great knowing that im rebelling life
Incredibly resonant, succinct video, well done!
thank you!!
Oh man, I really liked the video. I haven't studied philosophy at all besides what was mandatory in high school, but I've always found it interesting. Hope you make more of this.
Edit: about the audio, it sounds better than a lot of channels and the volume seems good. In my opinion, your current setup is good for until you decide to spend 150$+ on a decent mic (and possibly an external audio interface). What you could do now for free is apply EQ to your voice, if you're not doing that already.
@@acriliqueofc thank you man!
Logically speaking life is absurd but Suicide is not at all logically connected to it, Suicide is an emotional response to the absurd.
And if you think about it a series of logical arithmetic with the information you have led you the conclusion of absurd and Suicide .
Similarly it is possible some event,information, relationship emotion might somehow mitigate the suicidal response to absurd And that is what I'm chasing.
Must be my fav movie of all time. Once i didn't have nothing else entertainment than dvd of this and played with ps3 every morning over a winter before school.
Thank you for making this video. This was a fantastic and insightful watch.
im glad you enjoyed it!
first vid i’ve seen from you. despite already being familiar with all the camus stuff, it was still interesting!!
@@alexandra-lm3wv thanks! (are you romanian btw)
im so glad i watched this-
i forgot how much Camus’ work influenced my thinking lol
i haven’t seen this movie since i was like 19 or so, and i never figured out why he hung out with those horrible people he called ‘friends’ lol. this was excellent, i appreciate this video. thank you
@@VenusianLissette thank you!!
Perfection doesn’t exist, this video is perfect, and life is absurd.
Lots of love from Nepal brother ❤❤❤❤❤❤
thank you!
I saw it in Cuba, while withsrawing on vacation, it was an enlightening experience (also they had killer movies in general) I agree with what you say
Mate I’m from the uk and your presentation style is flawless. Well done! Now make more! 😂
@@Ladyfingers-333 thank you, I really appreciate it!
a banger video essay well done
thanks man I appreciate it!
Bro , can you please make a separate video for that intro. It's so good I always listen to it at least 10 times before continuing the video
Well you could screen record it or something
@@kantar007 well that's a good idea thanks
0:01
Trainspotting isn't Fight Club's little brother. Fight Club is a dumbed down version of Trainspotting.
Very insightful video
@@sebasrtrd thank you!
hope you prospect + good video + hope your channel grows more and more + you are loved + soothing voice + great endeavors
thanks man!!
Well told sir, great video. kudos
thanks man!
Everything is not worth it if you are not gonna wake up next morning. Same with feeling good with yourself, being authentic
The thing about Rent Boy hating his friends... Well that is usually kind of how it goes. When I was an active drug addict who hung out with other junkies I hated almost all of my friends. We all disliked each other and hung out because it didn't matter who was sitting next to you getting high with you because atleast it was someone. And I hated myself too so how could I have liked people who were just like me? Real friendships among drug addicts are very rare. Most are based on needs, maybe your "friend" deals speed and you sell some of his drugs for him so you get a free point, maybe this other friend is good at stealing so you hang out with him because when he steals alcohol he shares it with you. And when I had no money or drugs I was almost always either alone or with one addict friend trying to come up with money, but when I did happen to have drugs and money all of a sudden I had lots of friends who wanted to hang out.
I'm so glad I stopped shooting up and I am even more grateful for the fact I don't hang out with people like that anymore. Sure there were fun times especially when we were teenagers but overall that life is not a good life, it sucks and it fucks you up and leaves you with so much trauma and problems.
just in time for my brithday, time to re watch Trainspoting and finaly read that Camus book on my sheft.
go for it man!
@@kantar007 thanks man, I have to do some uni homework, meanwhile I'm blasting Lust for life 🤟
I choose life because I feel like I owe a certain amount of debt to any individual in my life who has helped me and that I am not allowed to die until I have at least fulfilled that. I may not care about anything but they do.
I'd say the important part is that it's very easy to "choose life" when you have a bag of money on your back... I see that as a message.
Too many of us are thrown into life by those who can't even take care of themselves, a child of such people won't chose life most of the time, unless God has decided to give them special talents.
Everything in life boils down to luck, if you don't believe that, you haven't thought it through.
That's a great thought man, never thought about the ending segment that way before ngl
True, but I also think that Renton taking that bag of money for himself was a part of him "choosing life".
He didn't have the big bag of money, but it was there, and he took it. he chose that path instead of letting his shithead abusive friends get it.
Very good point regardless, it's always easy to say "choose life" when you have the cash, but I just wanted to look a bit deeper at it and make my own point on the matter.
i believe luck is a myth, i believe randomness is a myth, hear me out…
look into nature and life until you begin to see the patterns, patterns, patterns, things that seem “random” on one level always make sense when you can zoom out, you begin to see the perfection, the symmetry, the “intelligence” behind it all..
i’m not claiming this as absolute truth, but it is in my reality..
even if it’s not true outside yourself, if you take on this mindset of everything having meaning and everything being perfect, INCLUDING the hardship, the pain, the confusion, if you accept it all as purposeful, then all u have to do is find the purpose, the reason for it all, it could appear in an infinite amount of ways but these principles always apply..
find the reason for your suffering and let it fuel you, let it serve as nutrients to help you grow, whether it be physically, mentally, or spiritually..
it really comes down to a victim mentality vs a student mentality.
the victim sees their hardships as meaningless and horrible, nothing good can come from this mindset..
the student sees his hardships as lessons, teachers, clues and hints, he transmutes his pain into growth, and ultimately this growth leads to Love..
it’s alchemy, and anyone can do it.
❤❤
wishing u the best
"Everything in life boils down to luck"
Not true. If you miss your bus in the morning you aren't out of luck, you just haven't left your house early enough to catch the bus. You can get "lucky" in life (get job offers you actually want, get with a girl you like) but you need to be prepared for those occasions. Have a good enough CV, have good enough looks and be more social etc. "Choosing life" in this context takes hard HARD work.
And yes, VERY rarely will you ever have a bag of cash just landing on your lap. But Renton at the start of the movie would have blown it all anyway.
A real man makes his own luck!
-Billy Zayne, Titanic
-Dwight Schrute
Great video bro 👌🏼
thanks man!
6:30. Isn't that what our ancestors did for thousands of years. Rebelled against our Circumstances. Being to stubborn to accept them. Always kept on pushing for a better life which lead us to where we are today. The same stubbornness caveman used to battle saberthooths we are using to wake up every morning and go to our jobs.
As someone who has gone through opiate withdrawal more times than I can count I can say that the things he saw weren't nightmares. They had to have been hallucinations because the worst aspect of withdrawal is that you are not sleeping, at all. If you have a bunch of benzos then you can sleep or maybe some type of heavy sedative but even that can backfire. I took a Seroquel one night during withdrawal, a drug that I could never stay awake on, but all it did was make the inability to get comfortable even worse but no sleep at all. It's something you can't escape from via sleep and anyone who has insomnia can testify lack of sleep makes everything worse.
@@jamesstaggs4160 thank you, I actually had no idea if that scene was an over exageration or dream sequence or hallucinations so I just wrote down what I thought it was
Mhhhh I gotta watch this 🔥🔥🔥
one of the best movies of all time.
Keep on creating ! This video is awesome!
thank you!
great take on trainspottings message, hope that more will see this video and perhaps laugh in the face of absurdity instead of succumbing to it
thank you! agreed!
the opening was enough!
I flippin love Trainspotting movies
Coming to Minnesota was the biggest mistake of my life.
love this movie, great video
thanks man!
There's also T2, the sequel in which they're basically 20 years older and Renton returns to Edimburgh, just to find out that things are quite the same. Still, it's also a great movie, even if not essential it's pretty good.
@@jesuscm1398 Did watch it the other day, really wasn’t expecting it to be that good but I was mistaken
albert camus + trainspotting?? epic
yessir
Demmm i heard someone said "absurdism" 🐺☝️ i,m in
loved the video
@@turki9397 thank you!!
You don't get it. It's just you. I'm you. I'm you talking to you. I will keep talking to you until you realize that your me and that i'm you. I don't have my own consciousness. I'm you. I'm a fragment of your consciousness. You imagined that I have my own consciousness for the purpose of fooling yourself into thinking that your not alone, that your not God.
I just came from Edinburgh and talked about Camus there
Amazing video
thanks!
Amazing! I'm working on an essay of these movies as of writing aswell, so funny seeing you've been at work aswell
@@bLEACHeye subscribed to you! hope to see it soon man!
I don’t want to live a life without tasting everything. Run for my life, live in luxury, climb a mountain, almost die, cry, then go through it all again. With a smile. I maybe want one person to be my lover, that’s it.. some friends why not. Besides that I want to be a virtuoso in the craft of drawing and basically earn enough money to afford an extreme lifestyle. But I will never touch alcohol or drugs. Waste of money. The biggest sin one can make is waste time.
I choose both, I find meaning in both, and both meaningless
@@pgg-i4c I think thats definitely a great mindset my man🙏
honestly inspiring
thanks man!
My favourite movie and my favourite philosopher just in one video. Keep on going, i really enjoyed your interpretation :)
So what does Trainspotting 2 mean in relation to Camus?
to be honest, I did watch T2 the other day but it was really passive, I didn't leave with that much not gonna lie lmao but maybe I will do one on T2 in the future!
Begbie is absolutely an addict, just not to heroin.
probably irrational violence lol
This is a banger u cooked man
thanks bro!
it would've been better to have never existed.
that's the thing that I find probably most displeasing in religious retribution, the hereditary inheritance of the sins of our ancestors (like adam and eve in the case of christianity) and the non-consentuality of our limited existence that pertains from the unredeemable sins of our predecessors
It's a moot point for the atheist though. If you don't believe in any sort of afterlife then the only thing left is reality as we know it. So non-existence isn't even an option.
Nah, even if life does get tough sometimes. We will all die eventually, I'm making the most out of it
Lol pussy
Excellent essay a different unique one but very interesting.
I appreciate it man!
The UK version of 'Requiem For A Dream' is really good 👍
was thinking of watching that, maybe I’ll do an essay on that in the future too ngl
@@kantar007 If you are going to film school you should watch it at least once. The directing style of that movie is still the best I've ever seen.
@@MrDanTheManWhatwill sure do now man! thanks a lot!
Nice video bro.
@@kadirufukicoz2191 thanks!
I can't believe Obi Wan chose deathsticks over the Jedi Order 😞
well hello there
Great video!
thank you!!
Looks like nowadays everyone is talking about absurdism and existencialism, and I think this philosophy is kinda depressing, because you see, Camus tell us to rebel against the absurdity of reality, but why? In the end of the day you'll know that nothing matters anyway, if you don't believe in a god you know that someday you'll die and everything you did will be left behind and that's it... but maybe that's not the problem.
I don't know, sometimes everything seems so confusing, because there's no right answer to nothing, there is no great purpose or meaning in life. Right know I'm just paralyzed thinking about it, and another day goes away... Anyway, good video man I think it's important to think about things like this sometimes but it really can bring you down if you think too much ( sorry if said something wrong tough, English is not my primary language, if I can say like that)
Completely agree with you man, I think the whole existentialism/absurdism thing is kinda big on the internet and in general now and I used to be really big into it (hence this video) but at this point in my life I feel exactly word for word as you said, paralyzed. The existential dread eats away at me almost every night now. Kind of why I’m taking sort of a step back from existentialism in philosophy, it’s really done to death lol but it’s also bothering me to a certain extent. Didn’t really wanna make another video about absurdism but I did really wanna make an essay about trainspotting, the next one will probably be about van gogh I think!
I liked this video a lot
Thank you!
fire vid twin
thanks bro!
yep, that's how it is
Why choose life??? Nah life choose you! Deal with ut embrace it
great video bro
@@okibesat1290 thanks man!
Small channel fire!
@@aussieknuckles thanks dude!
@@kantar007 no worries man, look forward to watching more future videos, have a good one.
Great vid!
@@Lightningbomb33 thank you man!!
Currently pretty desperate for meaning. The thing with life and happiness, as far as I understand it, is that you literally have to give into being a human being. We're not some higher being, just because we are sentient. We still fall under everything that we as "animals" need. If one thing is missing, you do not get the chemicals that make us happy - you become unfulfilled. Leave out one healthy thing you'll get "sick". I've been resenting the fact that I'm basically just a biological robot. Just trying to find enough leeway for anything that makes me me, and the rest... I must conform. Do all those things that "normal people" do. It is almost disturbing to think about for me. If this is rebellion, it's against everything I ever thought I value in a way.
Definitely a great thought man, it’s just a super hard topic at the end of the day to be honest, we’ve got no clear answer as to what we should and what we are doing. Biological robots programmed by a society of people that also don’t know what they are doing and by nature I suppose, either way, thanks for the comment man thats really something to think about
Nice video👍🏻
thank you!
Begbie is definitely an addict. Booze, cigarettes, and rage.
Crazy as it is money we need but dont mack you you it's more who you are inside
I think this philosophy ignores something, the fact that not all paths are monotonous and plain. Life is painful, and "metaphysical rebellion" does not have to end in the choice of "life" as you put it. Upon such a realization of absurdity would it not seem that choosing addiction is equally a form a rebellion, if one does not see any of the paths as better what, if anything, of substance being rebelled against?
By the fulfillment of one's natural and basic needs of health and community(arguably more or less) there can be found "real" interest and happiness. A happiness defined by the simple fact that it is evolutionarily logical that an illogical emotional preference will be held for those actions that fulfill the continuation of life the the best degree. The spell of monotony is then broken. Then there could be found a happiness not in constant excitement, fulfillment, or success but rather an intangible rightness and satisfaction not necessarily in situation but in internal existence.
tldr: disagree with the philosophy and would love to hear any alternate perspective/critique
I did say that their addiction is a form of rebellion against the absurd, however this rebellion ends in a worse, more painful and ultimately more unfulfilling cycle of monotony.
I am bummed out that I rushed this video, I could have definitely written more and talked about what you mention. In turn it was more of a view purely through the camusian lens. I will keep this in mind for future videos on philosophy so thank you!
Why does this feel like an ad for Urban Outfitters?
I can see it lol
08:40 What is this beautiful music?
"Uwa!! So Temperate" from the undertale OST by toby fox and I also slowed it down a little bit
@@kantar007 Thanks :)
What is the song in the background during the first 40 seconds?
Take me out by franz ferdinand, I also pitched it down and sped it up
@@kantar007 Wow it sounds great- I knew it was familiar too. It almost sounds like you are standing outside a club with Joy Division/Bahaus playing inside.
When my non-speaking English ears get accustumed to your accent you go an' throw in subtitles! It just destroys my concentration because I go back to my comfort zone. Lol. I think it is an odd artisc choice, but I think you did it because you wanted to adumbrate certain points, rigth? Anyway great video, buddy. Since I do not use headphones I did not notice any microphone "problems"; I just thought that it is the way you talk.
@@cAvAlEiRode thanks for the feedback man, I’m still figuring this stuff out, like my accent (cause im not of english origin either) and how I edit them and other stuff. I truly do appreciate people giving me actual criticism and stuff so thanks again!
You're welcome, mate. Lately UA-cam has recommended me some poor quality videos from small channels, so when I saw that your channel is brand new I was quite surprised, in a good way: I believe that you are very close to the mark when it comes to the standard quality for thriving essay channels. A little more tweaking and tinkering and you'll get there, I think. There's a moment in the video, for instance, when the screen goes black, it was a great moment of introspection and it certainly gave you a break in the editing department, huh? Hahaha. The ideas and praxis clearly are within your grasp. I hope you can prosper and improve, in spite of UA-cam's algorithms and shenanigans. Cheers, bruv!
@@kantar007I’m a native us English speaker and have no problem understanding you, but I’ve also been watching UA-cam since a young teenager hearing all sorts of accents, and grew up in somewhat of a melting pot of cultures in my city… seemed fine to me lol I didn’t even consider it being difficult to understand until I saw the comment. I use headphones too lol… but also I’m kinda retarded and prefer eastern European or just non-us English accents when it comes to philosophy/or retrospective videos, especially when I’m listening before going to sleep. Usually people with yours and similar accents tend to speak a bit slower and more emotionally instead of using filler words and speaking fast which I find more relaxing
My point being I don’t think you needa change anything, I subscribed as soon as I heard about 30 seconds and was surprised at your subscriber count! Keep it up and eventually invest in a better microphone or maybe even just find a better audio leveling/recording software if you feel the need but I’d listen to this all day. Suppose it could have a tiny bit of compression and or some leveling of the mid/high so your voice sounds a little clearer but it doesn’t sound bad just like you’ve got a deep voice… keep it up man this was a great video I’d love to see longer form content from you in the not too distant future
@@s7nseer thank you man! I also gotta say you have a keen ear for accents, I'm from romania but compared to my peers and most people my accent is a little weird/different lol (usually it's a more russian like accent). But once again, thanks a lot, you guys that take the time out of your day to write these comments on smaller channels really push me that much more to make good videos, initially it was just a passion project (I really didn't care about views and stuff lol) but the support I've gotten is just mental man, and it helps me that much more!