The 16 BEST Bikepacking Bikes For 2020!

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  • @Cyclingabout
    @Cyclingabout  5 років тому +15

    What other bikes do you think are KILLING it for 2020, and why? Wish I could've featured more!

    • @fademasterfade227
      @fademasterfade227 5 років тому +5

      I would have thought the Jones Plus was worthy of a mention with complete bikes in around $2000. Good list though :)

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому +10

      @@fademasterfade227 The Jones is great, but I think the specification is a bit too low-end for a bike at its price. I'd love to see it with the spec level of the Kona Unit or Surly ECR, but then again, Jones doesn't have the economy-of-scale like most other brands.

    • @AdventureTeam4130
      @AdventureTeam4130 5 років тому +5

      GHOST! we ride about 10 000 km
      already.
      And this is just the beginning )

    • @whenhen
      @whenhen 5 років тому +4

      I'm a big fan of the Breezer Doppler Pro. With a compact 2x10 650B setup, plenty of mounts for racks, included fenders, and a hybrid cable/ hydraulic brake setup for about US $1200, it's a pretty solid deal. I have the 2018 version I got for US $830 after taxes and shipping, and it has performed very well on the gravel rides I've taken it on.
      As an added bonus, the smaller wheel size is great for shorter riders. Many smaller riders, myself included, find that wider 700c tires are just too large on a small or extra small frame. The 650b tires, even though they have the same diameter as thinner 700c tires, feel better than 35c tires and don't give as much pedal strike

    • @cuzinmike
      @cuzinmike 5 років тому

      @@Cyclingabout I would have to agree, and I own a Jones Plus. The geometry is unmatched in my opinion, but there is no question that you don't get the same value as with larger brands.

  • @anywhereroam9698
    @anywhereroam9698 4 роки тому +80

    0:41 == Off-road Drop Bar Bikes 29" MTB Wheels
    0:47 Ghost Fire Road Rage
    1:27 Breezer Radar Expert
    2:08 Salsa Fargo
    2:59 == Plus Bikes
    3:04 Surly Bridge Club
    3:34 Kona Unit
    4:10 Bombtrack Beyond+
    4:37 == Full Suspension
    4:43 Scott Spark 950
    5:25 Giant Anthem 2
    5:53 == Fat Bikes
    5:57 Kona Woo
    6:19 Otso Voytek
    7:10 == Gravel
    7:15 Cannondale Topstone Sora
    7:44 Fuji Jari 11.1
    8:20 Marin Headlands 1
    9:01 == 27" Gravel Bikes
    9:10 Salsa Journeyman Sora
    9:37 All City Gorilla Monsoon
    10:20 Diamondback Haanjo EXP

  • @sebboGeczy
    @sebboGeczy 5 років тому +16

    This guy knows his stuff. I want at least three of these bikes! Looking forward to your next video.

  • @kaganhopkins2398
    @kaganhopkins2398 3 роки тому +1

    I just got my 2022 Kona Unit X, truly the smoothest and best bike for the money!

  • @eugenem.9428
    @eugenem.9428 5 років тому +5

    Great to see recommendations for bikes that won't break the bank. And some absolute killer rigs!!

  • @OrnaloPlanting
    @OrnaloPlanting 5 років тому +14

    Such a great cadence to your speech! Inviting, relaxing but holds attention well. Keep up the content!

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому

      Thanks for the kind words!

    • @thefeelz5845
      @thefeelz5845 4 роки тому

      Yes, I thought so, too. You sound like a linguist who knows many languages.

  • @anthonyginex1959
    @anthonyginex1959 3 роки тому +1

    I have two that I really like. I have a Surly Bridge Club and a Marin Four Corners. Very similar bikes but different handlebars and drive train. Both of mine are 700c builds that are so much fun and capable

  • @bruin4937
    @bruin4937 5 років тому +1

    Really nice job, Alee. Sometime in 2020 I'll be buying my next n+1, but as you iterated there is such a large and wide market of bikepacking bikes out there(!). At this time, I've grown quite fond of Salsa and Surly bikepacking and road touring bikes. But, I've not quite figured out which route I want to go, pardon the pun. This review has opened up some new possible n+1 contenders for me, so thank you for this. Cheers.

  • @hellosunshine1090
    @hellosunshine1090 5 років тому +2

    Fat Bike, Budget Friendly:
    Mongoose Malus - obtained from Academy Sports for $265 (Amazon: 300-ish).
    A few key upgrades and it's my new favorite ride !
    1x7 drive train simple as dirt.
    I will check out the Kona Woo- thx great suggestions !

  • @beechnutmanor4034
    @beechnutmanor4034 3 роки тому +1

    First class review and video quality. Thank you..

  • @cuzinmike
    @cuzinmike 5 років тому +6

    Fantastic all around list. There are so many quality choices these days.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому +1

      So true! You really can't go wrong.

  • @UncleManuel
    @UncleManuel 4 роки тому

    That's why I chose the 2020 Surly Bridge Club as my next frameset project. Steel frame & fork, tire clearance for days, 26" and 27,5" compatible, tons of mounting points all over the frame. Because I will use my existing 26" wheels with 2,4" wide Schwalbe Big Ben and the beloved Rohloff Speedhub to build up an allrounder. Mainly for commuting in the city but I drive basically everywhere. And not slowly. And I'm weighing almost 100 kg. So stuff has to be durable. This is the reason why I stick to mountain bike gear since 2006 for all my buildups. 😉

  • @charliedevine6869
    @charliedevine6869 3 роки тому +1

    The Scott Spark 950 with the dropper post and front & rear lockout should really have a front derailleur as well.

  • @HeatherSpoonheim
    @HeatherSpoonheim 4 роки тому +2

    Glad to see a Topstone in the list - I went for the 105 over the Sora, though.

  • @AdventureTeam4130
    @AdventureTeam4130 5 років тому +9

    Our bikes GHOST ))) We love it so much!
    good review!)

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому +3

      That's awesome! I will pick up something exactly like this when I next stop travelling. 🤘🏼

    • @LermontovRodion
      @LermontovRodion 5 років тому +1

      Хотел вам ссылочку отправить , но уже вижу лайк

    • @valeron8203
      @valeron8203 4 роки тому

      Опа, Йохан и Устим фром Эдвэнчер Тим.

  • @junkandcrapamen
    @junkandcrapamen 4 роки тому +40

    Who goes bikepacking on a full suspension with almost no mounts?

    • @CoderShare
      @CoderShare 4 роки тому +5

      And not recommend a single hardtail.

    • @Permabonk
      @Permabonk 4 роки тому

      Just rode the CT on a transition sentinel 160 140 suspension. it worked fine lol

    • @fademasterfade227
      @fademasterfade227 4 роки тому +1

      Depends where you are riding. If I'm going to ride in the Chilcotin mountains I'll take my full suspension. Even a capable hardtail would not be great in this terrain. If I'm riding something like the tour divide a gravel bike would be fine and if I ride the Baja divide I'll take something with 3'' tires and possible front suspension.

  • @johng7390
    @johng7390 4 роки тому

    Super Informative. These group summary reviews are very useful. Thank You

  • @Lazarusminis
    @Lazarusminis 5 років тому +1

    Good to see my 2016 Unit here. It's an awesome cruiser

  • @AdventuresWithDaniel
    @AdventuresWithDaniel 5 років тому +1

    I just rode the Voytek for the first time a couple months ago. I ordered one just last week!! It is a GREAT riding fatty. It feels like AMAZING! Great choices on all the other categories as well. Love the All City Macho Man so I'm betting the Gorilla Monsoon is also sweet. GREAT VID!

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому +1

      That's awesome! The Voytek would be my fat bike of choice too.

  • @MOTORRAD_ONLINE
    @MOTORRAD_ONLINE 3 роки тому

    The one that rules them all is the giant toughroad sl1 on Schwalbe 2.25 thunder Burt tires. Tubeless of course.

  • @MrBaervan
    @MrBaervan 5 років тому +1

    awesome and super handy! you never disappoint!

  • @SuperFunHappyLies
    @SuperFunHappyLies 4 роки тому

    After finally seeing some proper photos and not just a basic drawing I just pre-ordered a Nordest Sardinha 2 frame kit to build up (due next month). Has everything I was after - boost thru-axles, clearance for 29x2.6 tyres and a crazy amount of mounting points. Also I really like the yellow colour. Worth a look to anyone after that kind of thing :)

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому

      I recently saw that update. Hard to fault it for a custom build!

  • @TylerLynn
    @TylerLynn Рік тому

    In case anyone comes across this video, I have the Breezer Radar Expert and changed the rear cassette for an 11-40 and it works fine

  • @EurynomusBH
    @EurynomusBH 4 роки тому

    I've got the 2018 Haanjo EXP and I'm very happy with the bike. You get *a lot* of bike for the price.
    The only real mechanical differences between my 2018 and the 2019/2020 is the drivetrain. Mine came with a 48/36/26 chainring and 11-34 9speed cogset where the 2019/2020 has a 46/36 chainring and 11-42 10speed cogset.
    It comes with 650x47mm out the box and all the Haanjo models can fit 700x45mm or 650x2.1 inches.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому

      Great to hear! I really like that XT 3x9 groupset.

  • @nomadicalex6218
    @nomadicalex6218 3 роки тому

    I have a Breezer radar expert and I can confirm it is a mint bike!!

  • @gblan
    @gblan 4 роки тому +3

    Got a Salsa Journeyman Apex 1, haven't looked back.

    • @fgDAB
      @fgDAB 4 роки тому

      gblan - Hell yeah!!

  • @fatherandsonrc
    @fatherandsonrc 5 років тому

    Check out the Fuji Jari Carbon available in two spec levels, frame features a completely one piece construction from headtube to rear dropout and weighs under 975g, rear microsuspension with up to 15mm of travel, three cage mounts in main triangle with multi positioning to cater to frame bags, top tube direct mount with an included bento box, up to 700x50mm tires, BSA bottom bracket shell, comes with a protective cover for the headtube to protect from handlebar bag straps, braze on and clamp on front derailleur compatible, full rack and fender mounts, full carbon fork with cage bosses/rack/fender mounts, 700x 43mm gravelking SKs. Integrated shouldering pad. The list goes on.

    • @fatherandsonrc
      @fatherandsonrc 5 років тому

      Also the Fuji Touring Disc. I'm running 29x2.2" Maxxis Aspens on mine for bikepacking. It comes stock with Reynolds 520 tubing, LX triple with a 26x36x46, 11-36 Sram Cassette, XT rd, barcons.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому +1

      I'm such a big fan of the Fuji Jari Carbon! It's a bike I'll seriously be considering purchasing when I get home. It only didn't make the list because the aluminium/Ultegra model is such a sweet deal.
      I didn't know the Fuji Touring can clear 2.2" tyres - that's quite impressive. How much clearance do you have on each side of the chainstay/seatstay/fork?

  • @PulseZ4
    @PulseZ4 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this video. I just bought a bike based on some of the info you gave. I compromised on the lack of brazeons in the end, and picked up the Kona Big Honzo ST (Steel). I was looking at putting on the 2.8 Schwalbe slicks you have fitted. How are you finding them, as a long-term review? I saw some comments about failures. I’m wondering if to buy now, as I worry they’ll stop stocking them! They’re £22 in the U.K. currently.

  • @hap5215
    @hap5215 5 років тому +22

    Disappointed my 1993 Specialized Rockhopper Comp never made the list ...
    Oh well .

    • @hap5215
      @hap5215 5 років тому

      @Arthur Feitosa -
      But , but the geometry on my '93 isn't quite right for bikepacking 😉

    • @GeekonaBike
      @GeekonaBike 5 років тому +3

      Could work, but it's gonna be really hard to navigate past all the posers at the trail head ; -)

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому +4

      I haven't seen a 1993 Specialized Rockhopper Comp in a shop since about... 1992. 😅

    • @hap5215
      @hap5215 5 років тому

      @@Cyclingabout - and hope your top 16 bikes will still be around in 26 years and longer ...

    • @harveyjoneswoodsman5956
      @harveyjoneswoodsman5956 5 років тому +2

      Hay nuthin wrong with a rockhopper i run an 03 hardrock for day to day stuff on and off road old can still b good

  • @48thRonin...
    @48thRonin... 3 роки тому

    I'm bike packing with the Poseidon Redwood, it's kinda awesome!

  • @EADGBe2002
    @EADGBe2002 5 років тому +2

    Very, very informative and useful. Thank you.

  • @khalidhamid7448
    @khalidhamid7448 4 роки тому

    Great video 👍👍

  • @alanendurace
    @alanendurace 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for that! How about endurance bikes more focused on road bikepacking events like TCR, is that covered on your guide or mostly gravel focused? What you think of the Canyon Endurace AL Disc 7.0? Thanks for your feedback

  • @angeloviray4916
    @angeloviray4916 4 роки тому

    Great Video..Very inspiring...
    Thankz a Lot

  • @mhilde7744
    @mhilde7744 3 роки тому

    Good stuff!!!!

  • @jasongoweser5152
    @jasongoweser5152 4 роки тому

    Thanks for for the video!

  • @whirving
    @whirving 4 роки тому

    As a life long cyclist and one who formerly worked in the manufacturing side of the cycling world I have been very impressed with your knowledge, and therefor you opinion! I've been very interested in Jones bikes lately but I've never had the chance to actually ride them, what is your opinion or experience, or anyone else who cares to answer?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому +1

      I'm a fan. I think the geometry makes sense if you're after something comfortable but capable on a mix of terrain (I prefer something more 'aggressive' as a mountain bike though). The SWB complete bike is a little bit lacking in terms of drivetrain spec, but the LWB complete is better. I'd probably build one up from a frameset though...

    • @whirving
      @whirving 4 роки тому +1

      @@Cyclingabout thanks, I thought that the upright and balanced character of the Jones geometry might work well with snow riding, which is mostly what I do. I still need to ride one before I ask him to make me a custom fat bike frame that would fit 5" tires front and rear. Hope all is well enough in Mexico.

  • @emacasper
    @emacasper 5 років тому +1

    Really informative video 👍 ,

  • @gatremontigatremonti634
    @gatremontigatremonti634 5 років тому +8

    Why not a surly ECR?

    • @phxrsx
      @phxrsx 5 років тому

      Make your own video and add it.

  • @ValentinoMariotto
    @ValentinoMariotto 4 роки тому

    I'm a bit lost.. let's compare the Fargo and Journeyman frames. Which one would be best for what?
    (I like to go mostly offroad, uphill and downhill. So far I managed with a capable Fuji aluminum frame with carbon forks, but I would like to be able to mount fatter tires, like 2" or more, and smash every descent no matter how coarse. I would like to use Shimano or Sram derailleurs and would like to have a few mounting options on the forks. 700c or 650b? I suppose that 700c would be more efficient on tarmac and faster downhill, but would allow for thinner tires?)

  • @anandthakre9265
    @anandthakre9265 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks pal for the information 😊, love from India🇮🇳

  • @markwilson4710
    @markwilson4710 5 років тому

    As someone who wants to bikepack, this is a great video! Some beautiful rigs, and with a history of low back pain, I'm glad to see some full suspension bikes in the line up. The more I watch these videos, the more I want to bikepack. Bonus is my friend carries Giants at his shop. Seems as if all the stars are beginning to align. Thanks!

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому +1

      That's awesome! Definitely get into it, it's the best way to experience the world.

    • @markwilson4710
      @markwilson4710 5 років тому

      @@Cyclingabout Thanks for the reply and encouragement.

  • @edwinorama8920
    @edwinorama8920 5 років тому

    great video love your picks...

  • @willhughes6205
    @willhughes6205 3 роки тому

    Rigid 29er or hardtail 650b? I really cant make my mind up. My off road routes need some tarmac riding to get to so not keen on too much rolling resistance but I also get over excited when I reach the fun stuff.

  • @machwerkapparel385
    @machwerkapparel385 5 років тому +1

    The "Finna Landscape" is definitely a gap in your list. but anyway its a great and helpful video. Thank you.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому

      The Finna was sooo close to making it, but I ended up picking the Breezer in its place. The value on the Landscape is exceptional.

  • @sabamacx
    @sabamacx 5 років тому +5

    The Fargo swallows 3" on 29 wheels, not just 27.5, since the 2018 model year.

  • @bruceanderson6180
    @bruceanderson6180 3 роки тому

    Here in New Zealand the surly is $2,400 big price for this ride.

  • @jasonwest3283
    @jasonwest3283 4 роки тому +1

    Anybody know where I can get the definitions to all this lingo? I’ve been living in my own echo chamber for the last... uh, my whole 47 year life. I have like 3 friends, none of which are into bikes. I was so passionate about bikes when i was much younger, and building bikes from all the spare parts i could scrounge around town. Now i’m reviving that passion, but feel like i’m trying to understand some alien language! Are there any good reference books on frame building, geometry, components, etc?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому +1

      Well, my Bikepacking Bike Buyer's Guide goes into detail on many things! You can see the chapter listings and page samples on my website. But otherwise, you've really got to do it the good ol' way and spend a tonne of time researching all aspects of bikes.

    • @jasonwest3283
      @jasonwest3283 4 роки тому +3

      Great answer! Thanks. I guess it’s just like any language/cultural learning process, you just have to jump in over your head and learn to swim... and fast! It’s easy to look at a bike and think it’s simply a collection of a few tubes and a couple wheels, without realizing there is a lot of science, innovation, and entire cultural sub-groups within the biking community, each with their own attitude and philosophical approach to what they need their bikes to do. I’m in love with the artistic diversity of custom bikes, but won’t be attempting the Tour Divide on one, maybe just the farmer’s market. For the goal of making my first exploratory ride to antelope wells in 5 years, I’ve got a lot to fill my head with and sift out. Thanks for your reply and the plug for your book; it sounds like an excellent resource for seeing just what’s out there, where the innovation gaps might be, and what I would like my noble steed to encompass. Awesome! Thanks again:)

  • @BangTheRocksTogether
    @BangTheRocksTogether 4 роки тому

    Thanks again, Alee.

  • @lovenystam4713
    @lovenystam4713 5 років тому

    I have a '20 unit and it looks to me like it will clear 3.0 tires front and rear. But I like the wtb rangers, they are indeed fast rolling!

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому

      That's sick! If you ever get the chance to throw in a 3.0", I'd love to know how much room is left from tyre-to-frame at the chainstays and seatstays.

    • @michaljambor7772
      @michaljambor7772 5 років тому

      Doubt it. On every promo pic the 2.6" the ranger almost touches the seat tube. That's not an issue though. 3.0" tire will obviously fit in the front where it counts the most.

  • @littleoceandrop
    @littleoceandrop 4 роки тому

    How is the NINER EDM 9 for road, bikepacking and touring?

  • @danielcoy9147
    @danielcoy9147 5 років тому

    Check out 44 bikes in New Hampshire , these bikes are totally hand made along with hand made bags and racks.

  • @user-pb6nm6yb6e
    @user-pb6nm6yb6e 5 років тому +2

    Marin Pine Mountain or Genesis Longitude if you are from Europe and don't want to spend a fortune on a bikepacking ready bike.
    BTW Pine mountain is on sale at chainreactioncycles

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому

      If you're a size medium, get last year's Pine Mountain! £549 is an insane price for a bike of that calibre.

  • @unchewable1
    @unchewable1 4 роки тому

    Awesome stuff

  • @BRICOLAB
    @BRICOLAB 4 роки тому

    hello, i really appreciate your videos and the explanations you give are always very precise and inspiring for me🥰🥰🥰🥰. Since you talked about the full suspention scott, next October I would like to take a tour around my beautiful island, about 1200 kilometers, with my 29 front "MTB. Can you recommend a rack for the front fork to mount two bags on the sides of the wheel?
    Thank you so much for the reply

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому +1

      The best rack for a suspension fork is the Faiv Hoogar as it puts the bag weight above the suspension, resulting in the luggage weight being "sprung" while you ride.

    • @BRICOLAB
      @BRICOLAB 4 роки тому

      @@Cyclingabout thank you for the fast reply. the rack that you recommended to me, however, is not available in my country, but thanks to the photographs I find on Google I will certainly be able to reproduce a custom copy in my shop.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому

      Awesome, send me a pic of the rack when it's complete! Check out the Tubus Swing (discontinued) too for a more simple design that does the same job.

  • @jasonmiller5801
    @jasonmiller5801 4 роки тому

    What is your opinion on the 2020 Scott Speedster Gravel 30 or 15 for a beginner gravel bike?

  • @MrSynchronise
    @MrSynchronise 5 років тому +2

    Great video thanks. I recently bought a Giant Toughroad SLR 1. What are your thoughts on this bike? Cheers.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому +2

      I love the ToughRoad series! Such awesome value bikes, plus that D-Fuse post is so damn comfortable.

    • @BB-pg5kl
      @BB-pg5kl 4 роки тому

      I've gotna fastroad advanced 1 that I put some more gravel oriented gravel tires on, but I feel like I should've gone with the toughroad.

  • @raymondmckinley5955
    @raymondmckinley5955 4 роки тому

    I have a Scott Spark WC 29er is it possible to get the gear that could fit this bike for the Hunt 1000 for example?

  • @stateniland
    @stateniland 4 роки тому

    can you recommend and BELT DRIVE bikes? Gears in rear hub.. Thanks Joe NYC

  • @AlveHenricson
    @AlveHenricson 4 роки тому

    Why are you missing the recumbent bikes? If you have prejudices against recumbent bikes for long distance cycling, I suggest you try for example an AZUB SIX.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому

      I have no prejudice against recumbent bikes, they're just not in my wheelhouse.

    • @AlveHenricson
      @AlveHenricson 4 роки тому

      @@Cyclingabout
      Do you have all the bikes mentioned in the video? If not, then you should definitely include recumbents. 😉

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому +1

      @@AlveHenricson I'll hopefully spend a bit more time on recumbents soon.

    • @AlveHenricson
      @AlveHenricson 4 роки тому

      @@Cyclingabout
      Looking forward to that!
      Cheers

  • @shawnskiba5874
    @shawnskiba5874 5 років тому

    Got a Kona honzo st, hard to get me to move on from that, but the All City Gorilla Monsoon looks pretty close to what I would get.

  • @mramazingtroy
    @mramazingtroy 5 років тому +1

    I know your a big fan of rolhoff hub. Any bikes with pinion gear? Sounds very niche but I'd love a Fargo Ti or Jones Ti with a pinion gear.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому

      I haven't spent more than a handful of days riding Pinion gearboxes, but I'm still impressed! I'd love to take one on a cross-continent tour one day to see whether it can handle my abuse. I have a Rohloff vs Pinion analysis in this article: www.cyclingabout.com/tour-with-a-pinion-gearbox/

    • @ClockworksOfGL
      @ClockworksOfGL 5 років тому +1

      troy kiri - The Rohloff hub puts multiple maintenance items in one place, whereas you’d still need to maintain the freewheel/rear hub when using a pinion gear. It’s kinda heavy and needs a special frame design. You can also convert a Rohloff to an E-bike using a mid-drive conversion kit. They’re still both great, durable systems, but I think the Rohloff has an edge.

    • @mramazingtroy
      @mramazingtroy 5 років тому

      @@Cyclingabout I know. Its one of the few websites that constructively outlines the two systems. I like the idea centrally weighted system and the smaller steps between gears of the pinion. Thought I'd love to put a rolhoff on my Brompton and do small light weight adventures on it. Keep up the good work Alee.

  • @merchantcycles
    @merchantcycles 5 років тому

    Beautiful. Cutthroat is our ultimate pick!

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому

      Yep, I'm a big fan of that bike. Looks much nicer in the latest version too.

  • @alejandromarfori6380
    @alejandromarfori6380 3 роки тому

    Ritchey Outback is not on your list?

  • @discowhisk483
    @discowhisk483 5 років тому

    Thanks for the list, but there’s something bothering the hell out of me. Sub-compact is LARGER than compact at 52/36. Super-compact is what you mean, referring to chain sets less than compact, or 50/34. Super compacts are often more similar to a 46/30.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому

      Both terms can be used but sub-compact is the most common terminology in the media. The only big brand using super compact is FSA.

  • @emacasper
    @emacasper 5 років тому

    Want to be able to do club spins and not get dropped & weekend touring , which bike ? Specialized diverge or Trek domane sl4 ?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому +1

      Those two are so close, you can't go wrong with either. Take them both for a test ride and you will be able to work it out.

  • @mellissanash7517
    @mellissanash7517 5 років тому

    Great pick on the Gorilla Monsoon, but I would have also put in the Kona Sutra LTD, which can fit 27.5x2.8, like the Fargo, but at half the price for frameset. Also, why Bridge Club over ECR, Ogre, or Karate Monkey?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому

      The Sutra LTD is definitely in my top few. Bridge Club was chosen almost entirely on price. It's 30-50% cheaper than the other options with similar capability across the board (you'd pick a plus-specific bike for looser/rougher terrain).

    • @mellissanash7517
      @mellissanash7517 5 років тому

      @@Cyclingabout I can't speak for price, but my LBS the BC and ECR were only $300 apart and frameset only prices are very similar between BC ECR, Karate Monkey, and Ogre(all of which are also plus tire bikes).

  • @thefeelz5845
    @thefeelz5845 4 роки тому

    How would you compare the Surly Bridgeclub to the Karate Monkey and Krampus. I want something that can accommodate less than a 3" tire on 27.5 or 29 so that I don't slog on pavement.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому

      I wrote an article just for you! www.cyclingabout.com/decide-between-surly-troll-ogre-ecr-bridge-club-disc-trucker/

    • @thefeelz5845
      @thefeelz5845 4 роки тому

      @@Cyclingabout Oh man.. You're the absolute best. Thanks!! Looks like I was after an Ogre instead!

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому

      @@thefeelz5845 Glad that helped!

  • @anunez6092
    @anunez6092 5 років тому

    what about the Surly Wednesday ? Karate monkey ? Krampus? Ice cream truck? OR Salsa Beargrease? Mukluk?

  • @paulrosenwinkel7333
    @paulrosenwinkel7333 4 роки тому

    I've bikepacked with a Breezer Pro, and I have to say I'm not a fan. Everything from the components to the mounts caused issues throughout my 50 day trip, I'm definitely going to avoid anything from them again. Just my thoughts.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому +1

      Fill us in with your issues! I've only really heard of people being happy with the bike.

    • @paulrosenwinkel7333
      @paulrosenwinkel7333 4 роки тому

      CYCLINGABOUT my bike might have been a lemon, hard to say. I had issues with the brakes, both derailleurs, the mounts (both coming unscrewed and also deteriorating when screwed in tight), and the general fit. I know the fit issues are likely due to the bike being too small, but I feel like the geometry is strange compared to the other bikes I ride. I just took it for a spin yesterday and that confirmed how much I dislike it haha. I hope other people have had good experiences, I just wanted to share my own.

  • @justineagan2238
    @justineagan2238 4 роки тому

    What bikes do you like for cross country? I was thinking of the Trek 520

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому

      In the drop bar touring category, it's hard to go past the Salsa Marrakesh, Kona Sutra or Trek 520.

  • @indrekpoiss
    @indrekpoiss 4 роки тому +2

    No bikes in old fashioned 26" category?

  • @valentinareco3526
    @valentinareco3526 5 років тому

    What do you think about trek checkpoint alr4 and giant revolt 1 2020? I’m planning to buy one of those to travel around Europe, from Norway untill Italy. What bicycle around 1300 euros would you recommend me? Thanks!!

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому

      That's a tough one. I prefer the Trek frameset, but think the Giant comes with a better specification - the flex D-Fuse seatpost and gear ratios in particular. Given you can always upgrade parts (but not the frame), I'd go with the Trek and later swap in a crankset with smaller 46-30t chainrings, and a carbon flex seatpost from Canyon or Cannondale.

    • @valentinareco3526
      @valentinareco3526 5 років тому

      ᴄ ʏ ᴄ ʟ ɪ ɴ ɢ ᴀ ʙ ᴏ ᴜ ᴛ thanks for your time! Last question what about giant toughroad ark gx 1. Do you still going for the trek?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому +1

      @@valentinareco3526 The GX1 will be the better bike if you plan on doing more rough roads because it can clear much bigger tyres. But I'd go the Trek if you mostly ride smooth surfaces.

    • @valentinareco3526
      @valentinareco3526 5 років тому

      Thanks a lot! I’m going for the trek tough!

  • @staceyvance6068
    @staceyvance6068 5 років тому

    Of the bikes you reviewed, which would you recommend for the Silk Road Mountain Race?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому

      The Bombtrack Beyond, Kona Unit or Surly Bridge Club would be my pick. But if you're wanting to be ultralight and fast, you'll probably want to use a hardtail mountain bike with lighter (but not as strong) components.

  • @doublejs9174
    @doublejs9174 4 роки тому

    Sir! How about Trek Rosco 8 for bikepacking trip? What do you think about it? Please reply :)

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому +1

      I'm a big fan! It has good gear ratios, air-sprung fork, decent 1x drivetrain, good brakes, a stable frame geometry... and you can fit 29" wheels with 2.2" tyres if you want something more speedy.

  • @cookiemoonsterq
    @cookiemoonsterq 4 роки тому

    what do you think about merida silex 200?

  • @Mr_Gil
    @Mr_Gil 5 років тому

    In 2020 I want to buy a bike frame, I'm undecided between Surly bridge club and Genesis vagabon, what is your opinion?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому

      You can't go wrong with either. The Vagabond has a better frame geometry for off-road trails, so if you're strictly on trails, I'd go for that.

  • @nguyenmr8862
    @nguyenmr8862 4 роки тому

    Please tell me what is the most narrow tyres for gravel?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому +1

      It depends if you want to ride fast or not. I can ride with 32mm tyres slowly on gravel with no problems, but I am much faster with 40-45mm as I can let the tyres smoothen the surface.

    • @nguyenmr8862
      @nguyenmr8862 4 роки тому

      @@Cyclingabout tks for ur kindly sharing! I'm a fan of u and i've bought an used Masi giramondo because of ur recommendation!

  • @LOZUPONEJ
    @LOZUPONEJ 5 років тому

    What’s with setting up automatic payments if it’s free updates and subscription for life for your buyers guide?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому +1

      There are no automatic payments. It's a one-time payment only.

  • @alekseyg.4191
    @alekseyg.4191 4 роки тому

    why are there no front suspensions on these bikes? i imagine they hit a lot of unpaved, bumpy roads... what am i missing?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому +1

      Touring bikes often don't use suspension because it needs regular servicing to work well, and many tourers cycle 40 hours per week which means servicing needs to happen very often!
      In any case, most people find they don't need suspension because the weight of their front pannier bags along with some wide tyres smoothes out a lot of bumps. 😎

  • @dantecafarelli
    @dantecafarelli 4 роки тому

    hi. I noticed that you (almost) do not cover Italian manufacturers. Which is unfortunate, since I'd like to spend my money in my country...

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому

      It's not intentional. I just pick the best bikes every year and talk about them. 👍🏻

  • @dmcg2511
    @dmcg2511 4 роки тому

    No love for the Salsa Vaya GRX?

  • @ringscircles142
    @ringscircles142 4 роки тому +1

    good luck finding anything to buy in any bike shop locally

  • @jz0111
    @jz0111 5 років тому +1

    can u list the bike brand and model?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому

      It's on my website here: www.cyclingabout.com/best-bikepacking-bikes-2020/

  • @Cam-pt9ex
    @Cam-pt9ex 5 років тому

    Whats a good one to travel the world and to have a lot of bags

  • @outbackwack368
    @outbackwack368 5 років тому +1

    I recently picked up 2 Cannondale Topstone Carbon Ultegra's and LOVE it! Light, fast and COMFORTABLE! But NOT cheap... That said, I hate the stock Riddler tires for only 1 reason: THEY LOSE AIR FAST (tubeless)... like 50% in 2 days. Seems that is a well-known issue. But another great bike would be the Canyon Grail AL 7.0...

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому +1

      The Grail AL 7.0 is definitely my second pick. But the climbing gear ratios aren't quite as good for a loaded bike, and it uses a pressfit BB which is a little harder to work on (and sometimes the BB shells are manufactured poorly).

  • @dirkmerle1073
    @dirkmerle1073 4 роки тому

    Kona Libre DL. Thoughts?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому

      I'm a fan! It's lightweight and upright, with a nice spec and responsive geometry. I LOVE the 2X drivetrain and colour too.

    • @dirkmerle1073
      @dirkmerle1073 4 роки тому +1

      @@Cyclingabout OK. So, i have a KONAL LIBRE DL, just wanted to get your unbiased take. I've rigged it out to do the 1000+ mile, 84K of climbing, Arkansas High Country Race this year. It's a faster bike than my Salsa Jman, and pretty comfortable geometry. Im not entirely convinced that a carbon bike is really the best bike to bikepack on though because of the toll the elements; mud, grit, grime, can put on the frame. I normally ride a 54CM bike, but went with a 51CM Libre and it rides even bigger than a 54. It's a Kona thing I guess, but it does fit me well. I have the dropper post, which is awesome on gnarly descents, but it doesn't come up all the way if you have weight from a seat bag on it. Not a huge deal, because I can grab it up, but I likely won't use it much loaded down. I bought the frame and built it to my specs, which was challenging (thank god for great bike shops). Thanks for your thoughts man. I dig my Kona.

  • @notpablo8369
    @notpablo8369 4 роки тому

    What kind of handlebar is this 9:20

  • @yannickdumont2679
    @yannickdumont2679 4 роки тому

    Salsa Fargo has a clearance of 29 x 3.0 not 29 x 2.6 tires.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому

      Yep, got my wires crossed somehow!

  • @mrugalaboga
    @mrugalaboga 5 років тому +2

    Audio was fluctuating very much in this video.

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому +1

      Sounds good on all my devices!

  • @innocentiuslacrim2290
    @innocentiuslacrim2290 5 років тому +2

    I just bought a Genesis Longitude last winter and it will be my bikepacking bike for 2020. Looking forwards to all the adventures. Genesis seems to be making some pretty nice bikes with decent pricing. The short trips that I made with the Longitude were a pleasure to ride and the only thing I switch on the bike to make it fit me is the handlebars.
    www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bike/longitude
    www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bike/vagabond
    I went to look at your website again. You have collected such an amazing set of resources and knowledge for sharing with others. That is pretty cool :-)

  • @ThePainterr
    @ThePainterr 4 роки тому

    Does koga Miyata make a packbike? Ta.

  • @stristan6302
    @stristan6302 5 років тому

    What do you think of the trek 920?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому

      I really like it. It's got great tyre clearance, a good frame geometry and low enough gear ratios for most applications. Depending on how much you + your equipment weigh, the wheels are the only weak point.

    • @stristan6302
      @stristan6302 5 років тому

      ᴄ ʏ ᴄ ʟ ɪ ɴ ɢ ᴀ ʙ ᴏ ᴜ ᴛ thanks for your reply. I weigh 85 kgs and my gear weighs around 20-25 kgs. Would that be ok for the wheels?

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  5 років тому

      @@stristan6302 Probably only just, but that depends how you ride too. Expect that you may need to need to swap out the rims at a later date. 👍🏻

  • @paullehrbmx
    @paullehrbmx 5 років тому

    The comment on the sram drivetrain on the ghost being expandable to a larger casstte is false, that only works with AXS, rival 1's 10-42 is max low, you cannot run eagle without going electronic.

  • @jeremyharris4021
    @jeremyharris4021 4 роки тому

    Best hub geared bikes?

  • @Thracium
    @Thracium 5 років тому +1

    thank you

  • @tomekvilmovskiy6547
    @tomekvilmovskiy6547 4 роки тому

    Watched newer video top of touring bikes.
    Don't really get the difference between touring and bikepacking bikes. Well, yeah, some of bikepacking bikes are mtb-bikes, but some are the same in geometry as tourists,

    • @Cyclingabout
      @Cyclingabout  4 роки тому +2

      It comes down to quite a few things:
      - Most of the bikes listed here use lighter weight components because manufacturers know that the bikes will not take as big a load.
      - The frames also don't need to be as stiff given the load between front and rear is reduced.
      - Then you have gear ratios, bikepacking bikes are often higher, given it's easier to climb with a lighter load.
      - Then there are sometimes no rack/fender mounts on a bikepacking bikes, along with less user-serviceable parts like press fit bottom bracket bearings given the trips are shorter.
      - Bikes also become more specialised in the bikepacking realm - more purpose-built for off-road or on-road speed.

    • @tomekvilmovskiy6547
      @tomekvilmovskiy6547 4 роки тому

      @@Cyclingabout thanks for explanation

  • @MarlowWhere
    @MarlowWhere 4 роки тому

    No kona rove st?

  • @jimplatter6179
    @jimplatter6179 4 роки тому

    The choices, are many, would very difficult to choose. Were you around when they made "Tube Tuffys" that really worked? Today the Tube Tuffys that are made are no more than trash. Tuffys from the old day's well simply put you will no longer get flats. I have 4 bicycles, and one week I got a flat tire on all four bicycles and in every case it was running over shards of glass in the road. Some how we need to start forcing the company's to make the tuffys that worked. The crap they make
    Today Dosen't wok .

  • @robertdewar1752
    @robertdewar1752 4 роки тому

    After riding a Cannondale Bad Boy 1, I can't see myself going back to chain drives.