I main Mantis, heal my ass off when all the DPS run around like headless chickens, getting beaten to shit and i still get called gamer words after keeping them all alive and drag them to a victory. Online gaming for healers doesnt change.
@@SteveFardI kinda feel that. I will hear my friends occasionally say “I need a heal” usually in the couple of seconds I don’t have an orb or enough to heal them a large amount but no one has complained about my heals. They usually text me if they need a healer tbh I’m not great but i’ve only really used mantis and average over 10k to maybe 14k per game
@@dutchielander2478 I concur I use Loki and some retards play marvel rivals like call of duty and complain they are dying cause they went off for a 5v5 it’s objective base game dumbasses
That’s what I’ve noticed. Although she doesn’t have a kit like cloak and dagger. You definitely have to be paying attention and have technical skill to be good with her. Jeff is the definition of a one star
it is more easy than the other healer , example loki is more complicated than mantis , u need to focus on decoy where u gonna place at , when to use the heal aoe cause the cooldown is god damn long , and the ult u need to prioritize what enemy/ally hero should u copy and what to do with their skilss
@@ProbstStyle thats literally every character in the game. Sure she gets more seeds for crits, but again she is incredibly simple. Not to much to really focus on.
"She's best to play with a support with high healing like Luna." Bold of you to assume I'm not the only support on the team. (Role queue soon pls) For real tho, amazing guide!! I was sleeping on her personal damage boost giving her a heal.
@mattevans4377 imo LFG was the worst and most toxic feature of OW. I would rather stay open queue. The amount of elitists that wouldn't let you into a group because they expected you to have a 90% win rate and play only the heroes they want was wild. I will say, I left my original comment 6 days ago and after climbing from Bronze 3 to Gold 2, team compositions haven't been as bad as I thought they would. 1/3/2 has worked out really well. (Vanguard/Duelist/Strategist)
In "high elo" Mantis healing is not going to save anyone. The burst healing is too low and the slow healing is only good out of combat, against people not knowing how to aim I guess it can feel like its useful, but when a pro rushes you in, you're not surviving without Luna or Jeff burst heal lmao.
You’re likely stuck with new players still, I started off against people who couldn’t kill anyone, but later on your healing becomes less reliable. Mantis is excellent at maximizing uptime on her abilities, granting regen and dmg boosts on as many of her teammates as possible.
Mantis became my main when i was having a hard time with Rocket in the beginning of a match. I almost quit the match, but decided against it. It was my first time playing as her, and i went on an absolute tear and helped my team win!
I'm sorry sir but healing is a side job? Often when I play mantis I have to double my team's healing rate just for them to survive but yes I do agree, damage boost herself is essential for her to survive constantly.
@@FerealFr no you. like, really that's a fps game, not a rpg. You can overheal but you can't overdamage, and you don't win fight by not dying but by killing ennemy team. That's the thing new player, or average player don't understand with the role of a support on a pvp fps, you're not here to sit healboting and hopping ppl will win the game for you, and then complain when they can't bc you're halving your slot value. Not to mention mantis is awesome on tank pressure, awesome on long range fight/poke, and awesome as a duelist. You need to put value on the table to win, and once again healboting isn't that much of a value.
yes his crosshair was off target at the point of contact but that is likely because he clicked the shot at the right moment during the arc of his mouse movement. i see it all of the time from widowmakers. i used to watch kayjii several years ago when he cammed his hands and i think(?) i remember he him doing longer arm movements rather that small wrist movements, which i hear is better not to wreck your hand/wrist
Is it bad that I’m barely damaging enemies when I play her ? I’ll still attack to get my life orbs back but other than that I’m 75% of the time healing
ngl I feel lke in theory she's very similar to Brigitte theoretically. Getting headshots to keep dmg boost up time and healing up time is very similar to trying to keep inspire up time with Brigitte
Not even remotely close to Brig. Definitely Zen. But instead of discording a single enemy, you fling out damage boosts galore alongside a “repair pack” I guess.
@@viewtifullyvon6465 I dont think he meant similar in the sense of gameplay but they are similar theoretically, they both have to deal damage and hit their skill shots to have optimal uptime.
4:50 Mantis is also capable of being a main healer, and solo healing. In my opinion, she's currently the strongest Strategist in the game. Don't let this discourage you at all.
Idk the headshots are great and all but sooo many of the teammates deaths were preventable, I hope mantis players don't undervalue her heals after watching this
I mean great game and everything but if you’re gonna play mantis the way you did you should just switch off mantis and go play dps. Your healing was so bad in both games. You sometimes damage boosted some teammates but you mainly just used it on yourself and rushed ahead playing super selfishly. Just use those skills and gameplay you were using on any other dps and you’d get the same results and thus someone else can play support and get better healing than you did these games.
You have to play aggressively and take flanks and off-angles constantly if you want to carry yourself against less experienced players. The gameplay footage in the video is from early access, so these poor souls had to witness my Mantis and stay in spawn. If you want to see gameplay where I can't flank as much because players have better awareness, check out my most recent videos.
There were already two betas, during which I finished around the Top 10 in both. Our team, which included Necros, ML7, Bogur, LHCloudy, and Kragiee, finished in second place in the last Marvel Rivals tournament.
I agree, only watching game 1 so far and it’s aggressive dmg which is great but you can see so many times he could stop attacking for a millisecond right click and save a teammate than go back to damage. He just keeps attacking and lets them die. Amazing aim but he should stick to damage characters.
I mean, you’re somewhat right but I guess it’s a good thing Mantis isn’t just a healer. I’d argue it’s worse when players think a team is going to be as optimally effective with one strategist to begin with. There’s a reason the every beta team comp meta was 2 duelists, 2 vanguard, 2 strategists, and while i know most players didn’t play beta, it feels common sense that an even distribution of cohesive roles is a intelligent way to plan. Mantis is built for a hybrid style (which is why she can put out that type of damage anyway), just know that if you’re in a team with one support and that support is Mantis, you’re really not going to receive optimal healing uptime because she only has four charges to split amongst 3 different functions lol. If your team gets pressured, it’s often gonna be a toss up. Especially if DPS is splitting (which is annoyingly common). He really said it best, she is a supportive DPS. Damaging is literally how she gain charges quicker for buffing and healing. Especially at higher competitive levels. He is entirely right when he says healing is her side job. Hence why many change to Luna if the team is in dire need of heals. Aggressive support has been her meta niche since the first beta lol.
Allied inspiration. I'm assuming it was skipped over because it's just Natural Anger but for allies with no difference in for the damage buff or duration
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@@melvinbolt1434 money 🦀
I main Mantis, heal my ass off when all the DPS run around like headless chickens, getting beaten to shit and i still get called gamer words after keeping them all alive and drag them to a victory.
Online gaming for healers doesnt change.
Find friends and heal them, randoms get none IQ sometimes😂
haven't had anyone even talk shit in the 10 hours of marvel rivals I've played, so idrk what you are talking about. maybe you're just playing bad lol.
@@SteveFardI kinda feel that. I will hear my friends occasionally say “I need a heal” usually in the couple of seconds I don’t have an orb or enough to heal them a large amount but no one has complained about my heals. They usually text me if they need a healer tbh I’m not great but i’ve only really used mantis and average over 10k to maybe 14k per game
Same, i did 24k heal as cloak and dagger and i got called names smh ??
@@dutchielander2478 I concur I use Loki and some retards play marvel rivals like call of duty and complain they are dying cause they went off for a 5v5 it’s objective base game dumbasses
Why is this a 1 star difficulty character? You actually have to be paying attention to everything.
That’s what I’ve noticed. Although she doesn’t have a kit like cloak and dagger. You definitely have to be paying attention and have technical skill to be good with her. Jeff is the definition of a one star
it is more easy than the other healer , example loki is more complicated than mantis , u need to focus on decoy where u gonna place at , when to use the heal aoe cause the cooldown is god damn long , and the ult u need to prioritize what enemy/ally hero should u copy and what to do with their skilss
She is an incredibly basic character. Really effective, just super basic.
@@NotGahruvey basic but maybe the highest apm support. If you are not aware of everything and able to headshot you will be bad.
@@ProbstStyle thats literally every character in the game. Sure she gets more seeds for crits, but again she is incredibly simple. Not to much to really focus on.
We need more support players in the game lol everyone wants to play dps feels like ow1 all over again
Kinda love it for that though so I’m gunna enjoy these early days while it last ..!
As a support main, I am always guaranteed whatever hero I want and I kinda love it
That's just every game, ever. Don't think I've ever played a game, even MMORPG's, where dps role wasn't by far the most played.
Also there are more DPS characters so statistically more people pick those although a team should be more balanced with tanks and healers too
no cap role que is gonna be needed
"She's best to play with a support with high healing like Luna."
Bold of you to assume I'm not the only support on the team. (Role queue soon pls)
For real tho, amazing guide!! I was sleeping on her personal damage boost giving her a heal.
Thank you 🥰
You mean LFG soon. Not only gives you the comp you want, but the players too
@mattevans4377 imo LFG was the worst and most toxic feature of OW. I would rather stay open queue.
The amount of elitists that wouldn't let you into a group because they expected you to have a 90% win rate and play only the heroes they want was wild.
I will say, I left my original comment 6 days ago and after climbing from Bronze 3 to Gold 2, team compositions haven't been as bad as I thought they would.
1/3/2 has worked out really well. (Vanguard/Duelist/Strategist)
@TofuWaifu Well, you could always be group leader yourself. Then you'll pick up all the other people the elitists don't want
Oh this regeneration passive… Wolverine’s crying just at the thought of it
Did yall fall down the Zenyatta -> Kiriko -> Mantis pipeline or was it just me
Great vid
Yes 😂 also thank you for the donation! My first youtube donation ever :D
@@kayjii AWW HEHE IM GLAD
honestly no flame but i believe you are super undervaluing mantis healing abillity. ive kept my entire team from dying a whole match with mantis alone
In "high elo" Mantis healing is not going to save anyone. The burst healing is too low and the slow healing is only good out of combat, against people not knowing how to aim I guess it can feel like its useful, but when a pro rushes you in, you're not surviving without Luna or Jeff burst heal lmao.
You’re likely stuck with new players still, I started off against people who couldn’t kill anyone, but later on your healing becomes less reliable. Mantis is excellent at maximizing uptime on her abilities, granting regen and dmg boosts on as many of her teammates as possible.
the skin looks so good
You’re by far the most aggressive mantis player I’ve seen👍🙌
fast and straight to the content, good vid
ITS TIME!!! 💃
Mantis became my main when i was having a hard time with Rocket in the beginning of a match. I almost quit the match, but decided against it. It was my first time playing as her, and i went on an absolute tear and helped my team win!
Your aim IS insane wow
Watching this video I was thinking "god, this man would be a beast as Kiriko".
Then I checked your channel 😅
Look forward to it. Havent played her yet
Bro you almost beat that iron fist 👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
you had like 1,000 healing done almost 3 minutes into the game. and you were the only support.
we won
really good tutorial
Great video
Thank you for the guide friend I am also a Mantis main and this helped me to better understand the character 😊
pro is crazy when the game is fresh out the womb
The game already had 2 beta stages and a tournament
@ fair enough
@@kayjiiyou place ?
@@tonytireiorn9708 2nd
i hear the nihigo in the background, i like
Could make Mantis guides for higher elo (Looking to be playing her in the tournament cuz she’s the supp in this game that has everything)
I will make an advanced mantis guide in a week or so
I already do everything you said to do but I’m good at healing and damage boosting. Mantis is a great hero to play as.
Great guide, thank you! Is jumping meta in Rivals?
What is your sense and dpi 😢 your aim is cracked!
hey whats your reticle?
What’s are you settings (sens,etc )
I'm sorry sir but healing is a side job? Often when I play mantis I have to double my team's healing rate just for them to survive but yes I do agree, damage boost herself is essential for her to survive constantly.
you have a long journey ahead of you, young grasshopper.
As a wise man once said, “DAMAGE DAMAGE DAMAGE”
@meat. That mentality is why we can't have a nice team lol
@@FerealFr no you.
like, really that's a fps game, not a rpg. You can overheal but you can't overdamage, and you don't win fight by not dying but by killing ennemy team. That's the thing new player, or average player don't understand with the role of a support on a pvp fps, you're not here to sit healboting and hopping ppl will win the game for you, and then complain when they can't bc you're halving your slot value.
Not to mention mantis is awesome on tank pressure, awesome on long range fight/poke, and awesome as a duelist. You need to put value on the table to win, and once again healboting isn't that much of a value.
if you solo support, do you recomend staying with this aggresive playstyle or switching to a more healing focused one? (or maybe swapping to luna?)
If you’re the only supp I’m pretty sure you just have to switch to Luna unless you’re playing with demons that will abuse the dmg buff Mantis gives
I need a dose of them damage boots!!
Best alt skin in the game
You can also have a heal orb and damage orb on an ally at the same time
I’m interested what other characters you play with?
My go to characters right now
Mantis, Cloak and Dagger, Luna and fish
@@kayjiiis fish jeff? Cool guide, hoping to see something more advanced soon :D
Do her healing spores stack? Or have a bigger initial heal?
bigger initial heal, the healing over time doesn't stack.
18:12 how is that a headshot?
I seriously don't understand the hitbox collision in this game.
yes his crosshair was off target at the point of contact but that is likely because he clicked the shot at the right moment during the arc of his mouse movement. i see it all of the time from widowmakers. i used to watch kayjii several years ago when he cammed his hands and i think(?) i remember he him doing longer arm movements rather that small wrist movements, which i hear is better not to wreck your hand/wrist
So it’s zenyatta but extra steps and better movement. My little battle toaster heart is so happy.
so far I main both Luna and mantis depending on whether or not I have someone else playing support (usually not the case)
Are there any Mantis specific settings you have changed?
no, everything on default.
She's perfect me. Feels like a mix of zenyatta and ana
Kayjii, give crosshair code, pls❤
Circle ⭕️ (I will make a settings guide soon)
what in game sens and graphics settings do you use?
Bro how are you so accurate??
a lot of practice
Is it bad that I’m barely damaging enemies when I play her ? I’ll still attack to get my life orbs back but other than that I’m 75% of the time healing
always shoot 24/7 even if you don't off-angle or flank.
ngl I feel lke in theory she's very similar to Brigitte theoretically. Getting headshots to keep dmg boost up time and healing up time is very similar to trying to keep inspire up time with Brigitte
Not even remotely close to Brig. Definitely Zen. But instead of discording a single enemy, you fling out damage boosts galore alongside a “repair pack” I guess.
@@viewtifullyvon6465 I dont think he meant similar in the sense of gameplay but they are similar theoretically, they both have to deal damage and hit their skill shots to have optimal uptime.
Wait... I had no idea kayjii had a yt channel... since when?
For a while, just didn’t have much motivation in overwatch to put in effort into my content :(
Whats your crosshair settings?
I can’t seem to land my shots too efficiently in this game any tips i keep playing with my sensitivity and can’t get the sweet spot
4:50 Mantis is also capable of being a main healer, and solo healing. In my opinion, she's currently the strongest Strategist in the game. Don't let this discourage you at all.
Idk the headshots are great and all but sooo many of the teammates deaths were preventable, I hope mantis players don't undervalue her heals after watching this
Surprisingly this chick is easier to hit head shots than Adam warlock imo
the battle pass skin doesn't have any new effects? it's gold rarity so i assume they would have added something
ok so recasting the healing flower ability doesnt do more healing vs just keeping the HoT on an ally?
It does quick burst of healing, somewhere around 100, then heals over the next 5 seconds
Can a damage boosted Black Widow one shot headshot?
The damage boost is 12% so it does one shot 250 hp characters
@agak229 oof.
I mean great game and everything but if you’re gonna play mantis the way you did you should just switch off mantis and go play dps. Your healing was so bad in both games. You sometimes damage boosted some teammates but you mainly just used it on yourself and rushed ahead playing super selfishly.
Just use those skills and gameplay you were using on any other dps and you’d get the same results and thus someone else can play support and get better healing than you did these games.
You have to play aggressively and take flanks and off-angles constantly if you want to carry yourself against less experienced players. The gameplay footage in the video is from early access, so these poor souls had to witness my Mantis and stay in spawn. If you want to see gameplay where I can't flank as much because players have better awareness, check out my most recent videos.
How did you get that much FPS?
Spaceship
How long the dmg buff last?
8s
you need to start healing more insed of damage boosting your teammates
Hör ich da einen deutschen Akzent raus?
Btw wie hast du schon den Mantis skin? Hast du den Battlepass durchgekauft?
mantis is just a dps who has healing abilities
whats your sens ?
1.32 1600 dpi
bro got flicks
Mantis is very similar to Kiriko from Overwatch to me
i just love how game was released day ago and there is vid about PRO MANTIS PLAYER
Uhh there were 2 betas
There were already two betas, during which I finished around the Top 10 in both. Our team, which included Necros, ML7, Bogur, LHCloudy, and Kragiee, finished in second place in the last Marvel Rivals tournament.
@kayjii Who's a good boy
@@ActuallyTopaz joke is that game was released day ago and people are trying to be good at something instead of enjoying
@@mcha4203 so being bad at something and losing is fun?
I like your voice. You sound cute
Icant aim 😭
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Nothin worse than when your healer thinks they're the dps and they put healing on the backburner
Are you deaf?
I agree, only watching game 1 so far and it’s aggressive dmg which is great but you can see so many times he could stop attacking for a millisecond right click and save a teammate than go back to damage. He just keeps attacking and lets them die. Amazing aim but he should stick to damage characters.
I mean, you’re somewhat right but I guess it’s a good thing Mantis isn’t just a healer.
I’d argue it’s worse when players think a team is going to be as optimally effective with one strategist to begin with.
There’s a reason the every beta team comp meta was 2 duelists, 2 vanguard, 2 strategists, and while i know most players didn’t play beta, it feels common sense that an even distribution of cohesive roles is a intelligent way to plan.
Mantis is built for a hybrid style (which is why she can put out that type of damage anyway), just know that if you’re in a team with one support and that support is Mantis, you’re really not going to receive optimal healing uptime because she only has four charges to split amongst 3 different functions lol. If your team gets pressured, it’s often gonna be a toss up. Especially if DPS is splitting (which is annoyingly common).
He really said it best, she is a supportive DPS. Damaging is literally how she gain charges quicker for buffing and healing.
Especially at higher competitive levels. He is entirely right when he says healing is her side job. Hence why many change to Luna if the team is in dire need of heals. Aggressive support has been her meta niche since the first beta lol.
And this is why Mantis can never truly be S tier. Players have no clue how to play with one
Yo i never understood but why poeple with good aim always shake their screen to hit somoene head
Thats just me on 10 cups of coffee
Do you know how much % the self dmg boost is and how much % the dmg boost to allies is?
12% and 8s for both u have all the info on the official website
>@@warlyx7653 17,5%
You skipped her third ability. Kinda wanted to hear what you had to say about it but whatever
which one?
Allied inspiration. I'm assuming it was skipped over because it's just Natural Anger but for allies with no difference in for the damage buff or duration
Might as well just play any dps. You're not even healing
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This hero is not ok
support? looks like a dps
Mantis is a duelist in the strategist category 😅
@ yea ur putting in work with her
NOT PRO
The game just came out, what is he talking about. How the game have pro players already.
You should healing your team
ratio
Literally explained in the video... Her primary focus is damage boosting and pushing aggression
Shes primarily a damage boosting hero, she's best played with another strategist that has way more heals
not helpful for beginners, it was kinda all over the place.